Came across this today
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/1...ce-pixel-phones-us-division-badly-struggling/
According to a source familiar with Huawei's operations, the Chinese smartphone and telecoms giant's device division has been having a very difficult time attempting to break into the fickle US market. Not only that, but rumors that Huawei was pegged as the manufacturer of Google's 2016 smartphone portfolio were, at one point, true: negotiations between Huawei and Google broke down when the latter demanded no partner logos be on its new smartphones. But the drama runs even deeper than that, if our source is to be believed, starting with the Nexus program.
In 2015, Huawei entered into a partnership with Google to produce the Nexus 6P. You may have noticed the 5X and 6P were announced and marketed a bit more boldly than previous Nexus smartphones. They had special warranties, fairly large advertising campaigns (for Nexus devices), and Google even offered device financing for them on its Project Fi MVNO. I had taken this, in light of revelations about the upcoming Pixel phones, to mean that the 5X and 6P were something of a ramp-up to the more fully-developed Pixel project. A market test of sorts. Our source, however, says that Huawei and Google's partnership on the Nexus 6P was never fully realized, and that it was actually far more ambitious than what we ended up with.
Initially, Google allegedly sold Huawei on the idea that the Nexus 6P would be stocked and sold by all four major US carriers. It was Huawei's big chance to finally be on store shelves in a huge number of retailers across the United States, and no doubt was a major reason they were so invested in the project. In particular, Huawei wanted its smartphones on Verizon - it's not exactly clear why, apart from the obvious (Verizon is the largest or 2nd largest US carrier, depending on the quarter). Google and Huawei would also embark on a massive, multi-hundred-million dollar ad campaign for the Nexus 6P, with an agreement that each company would match the advertising dollars the other was willing to invest. But that never happened.
Talks between Google and the carriers broke down (surprise!). The Nexus 6P and 5X were never sold by any major US network operator. In the end, Google demanded Google Store near-exclusivity in the US for the phones for a fixed period before allowing them to be sold on channels like Amazon, Best Buy, and B&H, limiting the devices' retail visibility. Huawei was, perhaps as a concession, allowed to sell the device on its own website at launch. But the grand Nexus 6P project never truly came to fruition, and it seemed the plan to get a Google phone back in a carrier store was put on the back burner in 2015.
Fast-forward shortly after the Nexus 5X and 6P launched, and Google began talks with Huawei to produce its 2016 smartphone portfolio - allegedly up to three phones, not just the two we ended up with. It's unclear if they would have been branded Pixel, Nexus, or both (e.g., two Pixels and a cheaper Nexus). Google, though, set a hard rule for the partnership: Huawei would be relegated to a manufacturing role, producing phones with Google branding. The Huawei logo and name would be featured nowhere on the devices' exteriors or in their marketing, much like the Pixel phones built by HTC that we'll see unveiled tomorrow. According to our source, word spread inside Huawei quickly that global CEO Richard Yu himself ended negotiations with Google right then and there. Huawei was off the table for the new smartphones. Google's "plan B" - HTC - ended up winning the contract.
But our source claims the great irony of this is that Huawei ended up passing on a chance to finally get one of its smartphones in a Verizon store (the Pixels will be sold by Verizon), even if it didn't have the Huawei logo or mention of Huawei in its marketing. It could have, theoretically, set the stage for Huawei to work with Verizon in the future, however.
In the interim, Huawei's US division hasn't gained significant market traction. Despite achieving critical success [with Google] with the Nexus 6P last year, the company's smartphone efforts in the US have all basically fizzled. For example, the Honor 5X badge-engineered Huawei GX8 moved what amounted to essentially no units at all. Even non-smartphone products haven't done well: our source described the company's Surface competitor, MateBook, as an "absolute flop," despite the fact that Huawei still allegedly wants to produce two or three generations of the devices. Only the budget brand, Honor, has seen appreciable sales, and those were described as just "OK" for the lackluster but inexpensive 5X, while the new Honor 8 apparently debuted in the US with momentum well below expectations. I say that because just a month after the Honor 8 launched, Huawei sacked essentially the entire Honor US team according to our source - an event that, as far as we know, has not been communicated publicly.
At IFA, Huawei did suggest that the Huawei Device US team had undergone significant changes, with the US CEO ousted and much of the Western team having since been removed, as well. What employees remain are almost exclusively Chinese expatriates - people largely unfamiliar with the American market that Huawei has struggled so badly in. Our source intimated that Huawei's future US strategy is, at best, in flux. The company's P9 smartphone never officially went on sale here, nor did its generally acclaimed Mate 8. A planned LTE version of the Huawei Watch has been pushed back pending Google's release of Android Wear 2.0, and rumors are swirling that Huawei may even be considering Tizen for future smartwatches (our source was unable to confirm this rumor). Huawei's next major product announcement is anticipated to be the new Mate 9, or whatever it's called, which many expect will be revealed next month at an event in Germany, once again suggesting that Huawei probably doesn't intend to push the device here in the US.
Finally, our source suggested that, despite fallout resulting from the Nexus 6P and the lost Pixel deal, the relationship between Huawei and Google remains strong. The two companies continue to pursue strategic initiatives and products together (including that rumored tablet which, sadly, we've learned nothing new about), and Huawei is allegedly heavily invested in making its next-generation Kirin chipsets Daydream VR-friendly.
Perhaps the most interesting tidbit, though? Our source claims that Huawei is one manufacturer currently being solicited by Google to produce a phone (i.e., Google has put a call out for bids to potential partners) - for the second half of 2017. A mid-range device, at that - suggesting maybe this phone won't be Pixel-branded. I hate to leave you all on a cliffhanger like that, but unfortunately, it's all we have for now. But if our previous leak regarding Google's 2017 plans is any indicator, next year is shaping up to be very, very interesting for Google and Android.
We've reached out to Huawei for comment on this story and will update if we receive a reply.
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No wonder there hasn't been a update in a long time for the KIW-L24 -_-, because from what I just read, Huawei sacked their entire freaking USA Honor team... (Still on May security patch)
clsA said:
Came across this today
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/1...ce-pixel-phones-us-division-badly-struggling/
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well, that was certainly interesting... I'm gonna see what Huawei replies to this story or even if the reply or not :/
They've built the nexus 6p pretty well, and they could have produced a better pixel phone if they've accepted the offer
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No wonder there hasn't been a update in a long time for the KIW-L24 -_-, because from what I just read, Huawei sacked their entire freaking USA Honor team... (Still on May security patch)
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If that's true, our chances of getting an official Nougat are very slim
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If that's true, our chances of getting an official Nougat are very slim
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I asked Honor support and they said Nougat could come early 2017.
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I asked Honor support and they said Nougat could come early 2017.
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Well who ever told you that is PROBABLY lying, misinformed, or the representative from Honor Support USA is doing the same. Here's what I got in response from Miles S the representative from Honor USA that I spoke to regarding if Android 7.0 Nougat would come to the KIW-L24.
Miles S
Hi there! Thank you for reaching Honor Device USA. How may I be of help today?
Jordan
Hello, I was wondering if Android 7.0 Nougat is going to be released to the Honor 5X KIW-L24 US Variant?
Miles S
Hey Jordan!
It's not, our Honor 5X is topping out at Marshmallow. However, it will still receive some updates.
Jordan
I was told by another representative that it would early 2017, is that just lies then?
Miles S
I wouldn't say that, our Honor 8 will get 7.0, just not our 5X.
Jordan
I thought that both devices would get supported for at least 2 years upon release, and the Honor 5X has only been released for 10 months, only 2 months away from a year.
Miles S
I'm just passing down the information I get. Honor 5X will still get support, but it won't be making the move to 7.0.
Jordan
Is it because of the hardware (CPU) Snapdragon 616 that is not allowing it to be upgraded to 7.0?
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Possibly, we haven't gotten an exact reason yet.
(So TLR, better get a Honor 8, or buy another phone, or wait for CM14 with 7.0 Nougat for the Honor 5X, because that's probably the best hope we have)
Oh no, not a great news for me
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...sive-Google-Nexus-One-to-launch-in-April.html
Google’s Nexus One, the company’s first own-brand mobile phone, will launch in the UK in April. It will be on sale through Google.com/phone only, as the company has previously announced. Tariffs have not been announced, but the Nexus One is likely to be priced very similarly to comparable smartphones such as the iPhone.
Built by HTC, the Nexus One is Google’s attempt to assert the superiority of its mobile operating system Android, in the face of market dominance from Apple’s iPhone and Microsoft’s reinvigorated mobile software, Windows Phone.
Although the search giant’s first official UK partner, Vodafone, had been keen for a launch in March, sources close to both companies have confirmed to The Daily Telegraph that April is when the company will have a realistic chance of being ready for the launch.
The Nexus One is unusual because it is available online only direct from Google, and so relies heavily on word of moth marketing. Although sales had initially been reported as slow in comparison to the iPhone, the Nexus One has not benefited from the significant promotion that Apple has bought for its flagship product.
Google issued an update to the phone, shortly after its American launch in January, which added the multitouch web browsing that has been so successful on Apple’s iPhone.
Both Google and Vodafone would only say that they were committed to delivering the phone to the UK “in the spring”.
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The Nexus One is unusual because it is available online only direct from Google, and so relies heavily on word of moth marketing.
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No wonder sales have been lower than expected. Never rely on an insect to pass on information!
The Nexus ONe rides again - It's still a Star Here's the article
A flop with consumers, sold-out Nexus One scores with developers.
Google tried — and ultimately failed — to turn the U.S. wireless market upside-down by selling its supercharged Nexus One Android phone online, with minimal help from the big carriers. But now, months after shuttering its online storefront for the phone, the Nexus One is a sudden, improbable hit.
Who’s buying the Nexus One, you ask? Android developers, that’s who — and apparently, they’re so eager to get their mitts on the eight-month-old handset that Google supply of Nexus One phones for developers is completely sold out.
So says a post on Google’s Android developers blog (via TechCrunch), with Google’s Tim Bray writing that Google "blew through the (substantial) initial inventory in almost no time," adding that Nexus One manufacturer HTC is busy trying to crank out more of the suddenly gotta-have handsets.
Google launched the Nexus One — described in hushed tones as the "Google Phone" in the days and weeks before its official unveiling — way back in January, and the search behemoth caused quite a stir by offering the Android 2.1-powered handset only on the Web, through Google’s own Nexus One online storefront.
Why all the fuss? Because usually it’s the big carriers (think AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile, and Verizon Wireless) who do the heavy lifting in terms of marketing and selling cell phones, both online and (mainly) in brick-and-mortar stores. While it got a little help from T-Mobile, which subsidized the Nexus One for use on its network, Google’s decision to go it virtually alone with the Nexus One — with practically no marketing help from a carrier—was seen as a potentially game-changing move.
Unfortunately, it turned out to be anything but. Sales of the Nexus One never took off, and an unprepared Google — which, before the Nexus One launch, had little need for a bank of customer-service reps — found itself quickly overwhelmed by customers complaining about iffy 3G reception (which ultimately led to a patch) and other assorted glitches.
Consumers were also underwhelmed by the less-than-revolutionary $179 two-year contract price and $529 price tag for an unlocked Nexus One, while existing T-Mobile users were turned off by the $379 upgrade price for the phone (which was eventually cut by $100). Last May, Google finally waved the white flag, announcing that it would close down its online Nexus One store.
So yes, Google learned the hard way that nothing beats a "full-court press by a big national carrier" (as I wrote back in May) when it comes to selling a smartphone. But here’s the thing: The well-reviewed Nexus One itself wasn’t a bad phone — indeed, it was (and still is) a pretty good one, complete with a 3.7-inch AMOLED screen, a 1GHz "Snapdragon" processor, 512MB of RAM, and a 5-megapixel camera with a flash.
The Nexus One also happened to be among the first handsets to get an update to Android 2.2 — a fact that clearly wasn’t lost on enthusiastic Android developers, who’ve been able to buy the unlocked Nexus One — in droves, apparently — direct from Google for a few weeks now.
In any case, Google is now in the strange but surely satisfying position of "working hard on re-stocking" (as Google’s TIm Bray puts it) a smartphone that looked all but dead just a few months ago. Strange, but true.
Google’s Android developers blog: A Little Too Popular (via TechCrunch)
— Ben Patterson is a technology writer for Yahoo! News.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ytech_gadg/20100820/tc_ytech_gadg/ytech_gadg_tc3447
guess that means that the nexus was more popular then Google thought
Sounds like the making of a Nexus 2 could become possible. Anybody else agree?
"The Nexus One also happened to be among the first handsets to get an update to Android 2.2" - REALLY? It was THE first phone. And it wasn't a "pretty good" phone, it was the best on the market for several months after launch. I think this guy has some facts he needs to get straightened out.
I really think the nexus sold more units over time then people think, and is in demand more than people think. This kinda shows that. Google jumped the gun by closing their online store. Also they mis calculated by not making the nexus into a whole line of Google phones.
The Nexus would have taken off at the time, but Google saw fit to market their well known search engine at superbowls and such instead of a phone that no one heard of.
As much as Google may have fumbled the marketing of the Nexus One when it was sold publicly - all that aside...
The article makes a lot of noise without revealing any numbers which are key to really verifying the conclusion that the phone is becoming more popular as a developer phone.
Yes, Google sold out the developer allotment - that's great. But, they also sold out a few allotments of their public phone back in the day - most notably the last allotment they ordered in July which sold out a week or two earlier than expected. That fact alone doesn't mean anything without knowing how big the allotments were. For all the article states, the allotment for the developers could have been very tiny under the theory that a smaller audience produces less sales and most developers would probably have already ordered one when they were sold publicly anyway.
All we know is that someone was pleasantly surprised by the demand for it from the developer store and that the initial allotment - chosen specifically for that sales purpose - was underestimated.
But, we don't know if that represents higher overall demand (or even relative demand) compared to the public allotments. And we don't know if either demand represented enough market force for the company to have continued to pursue its business plan of being in the open market for handsets.
It also rankles me when they make supporting comments like "now, months after shuttering its online storefront". Sorry, it was less than 1 month since they shut down the storefront when they sold out the developer phones. And don't ignore that allotments were selling out during the consumer sales when you try to make it sound like the developer sell-out was unprecedented. The fact that it was almost 1 month after the shut down the store (not months like the author states) was *due* to a consumer sellout. Otherwise it would have only been a couple of weeks since the store front was scheduled to shut down.
I think the point is that with all these high end android phones out now, the fact that ANYONE is choosing the nexus still tells the story. Specific numbers don't really matter. This is especially true since all these other phones are subsidized on contract, and the nexus is full price, and still selling at all 7 months later.
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I think the point is that with all these high end android phones out now, the fact that ANYONE is choosing the nexus still tells the story. Specific numbers don't really matter. This is especially true since all these other phones are subsidized on contract, and the nexus is full price, and still selling at all 7 months later.
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Hi Roger,
That is a good point, but it isn't the tone of the article. "A flop with consumers" - "the Nexus One is [now] a sudden, improbable hit" - "[developers buying] in droves, apparently".
A flop? Really?
Sudden hit? Really that sudden?
Improbable hit? Really?
It may have had marketing problems, but it was never a flop. The new MS phones being canceled a week after they were released - that's a flop for you. And there is nothing sudden about a sellout a couple of weeks after another sellout. Nor is there anything improbably about that, or anything that spells "hit". And how big is a "drove". Apparently it is so specific that they suddenly realize the complete lack of facts in their piece and have to tack on the word "apparently". So, the phone is now selling to developers in a manner that one can only suppose is describable by a term that is as vague as "droves". Cute.
I'm glad that it is still selling and I'm glad that it sold out its developer allotment, but this article is exaggerating the impact of those facts with hyperbole based on both lack of knowledge (believing that the phone has been off sale for "months", etc.) and assumption of facts not presented.
It would be one thing if they had said what you said "The developer allotment sold out which shows that there is still positive demand for a device that is this old, but without numbers we can't tell if the demand is actually stronger in its developer form than it was as a consumer offering". But no, they basically paint its consumer history as if they couldn't be given away and then, without any numbers, paint the developer demand as being so much stronger than anything anyone could have expected that Google was stupid to have canceled it.
Sorry, no, the sell-out indicates that someone, somewhere, was wrong about a prediction that was specific to developer sales and has no bearing whatsoever about how the demand now compares to the demand as a consumer phone or to any other currently shipping phones.
As far as longevity - the G1 was still being sold as recently as about a month ago. Technology alone doesn't really dictate sales, but it is an important driver.
Now that Google knows there is an appetite for a "super dev phone", might they also reconsider their decision to permanently shelve the UMTS 850/1900 version?
I hate articles like this. The facts are wrong which makes the whole article irrelevant. I think the problem with the Nexus One is that only the geeks here really heard about it. There was no advertising done what-so-ever.
Although I am surprised to see more and more people recognize it as "Is that the Google phone?".
I'm glad I bought mine when I did because they shut down the store. Now I love it even more knowing that every joe-smoe can't go out and pick one up. I like knowing that I have one of the best Android phones and "you" can't buy one anymore.
I think we'll see a huge demand for the N1 when Gingerbread comes out. I think it will take a lot of time and a lot more tweaking to get 3.0 on a 2.x device then it was 2.2 on top of 2.1. I'm just happy that Google is developing it specifically for my phone and I don't have to worry about having a buggy port.
TechCrunch has confirmed reports that Lenovo is buying Motorola Mobility from Google. This is the division within Google that the company purchased in 2011 for $12.5 billion. Motorola Mobility will go to Lenovo for $2.91 billion.
http://techcrunch.com/2014/01/29/lenovo-to-buy-motorola-mobility-from-google/
I don't know this is good or bad?
May be lenovo can open atrix source
I dont know good or bad... What I know is... Google came... screwed Atrix community... and then went away.
Google will maintain ownership of the vast majority of the Motorola Mobility patent portfolio.
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Pretty sure at least some if not all of the patents included in the Atrix are a part of this.
Google brought Moto just want its patents in case others contestant own them, now sold some of patents, and using Lenovo to against Samsung.
I think it's good, Google needs partners and vendors needs android. So, Motorola was a problem. This answers also limited availability of Moto X and Moto G. Motorola under Google was "undervolted" because vendors
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I guess Motorola is now considered a "low end" cell phone company. That's all Lenovo does is low end business. They just bought IBM's low end server business last week. Our company supplies us with Lenovo laptops, they suck.
It's amazing how experiences can differ so greatly. My last four business laptops (including the one I'm using right now) were Lenovo ThinkPads. They were the best laptops I've ever had (and I had many). I even kept one as my private laptop. If for some reason I had to buy a new laptop right now, it would be a ThinkPad. A lot of my peers here share this opinion. I've never heard anybody complain about a ThinkPad, ever (well, except maybe girls, because they're "too black and ugly", lol).
I know next to nothing about IBM's server line so I can't comment on that.
Back on topic. I don't really know what to make of this deal. So far Lenovo has been making reasonably decent smartphones but there weren't many and they weren't really marketed too much. Maybe they're looking into changing that, just like buying the ThinkPad line from IBM was in fact their way to a more global market? Not quite sure what Google is getting out of this.
Google is washing their hands of a money-losing business whilst keeping control of the patents (which is what they really bought Motorola Mobility for in the first place). Lenovo gets the Motorola brand name and marketing contacts in North America. Probably a pretty decent deal for both.
I've got an interest in the china phones available and the Lenovo smartphones, whilst not groundbreaking in any particular way, are very well thought of.
I don't think anyone can claim that they produce nothing but low end phones, either:
http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/smartphones/vibe/vibe-z/#features
Snapdragon 800 chipset, 2GB memory, 5.5 inch fullHD screen, LTE support, Gorilla Glass 3, 13MP BSI camera and large battery. Hardly a low end device! Certainly much more powerful and highly-specced than any phone ever released by Motorola, in fact!
Similarly, I've never heard anybody complain about ThinkPads in the past as I've always thought that these are considered a cut about laptops from Acer, Asus, Toshiba and the like!
Exactly! Big G got it's share. The ThinkPad line was well translated from IBM. If they do the same with Motorola, it will do -at the very least- just fine with Lenovo.
As we mentioned in our recent thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-7/general/mate-7-model-worldwide-frequency-bands-t2911154), the availability becomes a major issue in the Chinese market over the past few weeks. The latest news is that, per our HUAWEI connection, HUAWEI cannot fulfill most orders in the next 2-3 weeks. We previously heard from HUAWEI that they were trying to fulfill the initial order (from EU customers who deposited) from Europe first; apparently, this is not the case now.
As of the situation in our 5 stores, we had taken over 30+ full deposits during the last week, and this time our HUAWEI lady told us we can only get 10 units per store per week, per latest HUAWEI policy/instruction/whatever. We were told that, HUAWEI continuously receives massive orders nationwide and the production of this phone is limited to 1 factory only in Guangdong Province. To get one unit immediately in the Chinese market, people are paying over $820 USD now! Even at China Mobile stores, Chine UniCom stores, Mate 7 is OFFICIALLY being sold over MSRP (+400 CNY mark up at least) and there is NO stocks! A major holiday is coming soon, 11 November (1111), the Single's Day in China. The availability issue will at least last till then, trust or not.
Message here for the EU xda community members: put your deposit with reputed online sellers (e.g., Amazon DE, France) NOW and you MAY expect to get one before Thanksgiving or Christmas holiday, maybe!
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As we mentioned in our recent thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-7/general/mate-7-model-worldwide-frequency-bands-t2911154), the availability becomes a major issue in the Chinese market over the past few weeks. The latest news is that, per our HUAWEI connection, HUAWEI cannot fulfill most orders in the next 2-3 weeks. We previously heard from HUAWEI that they were trying to fulfill the initial order (from EU customers who deposited) from Europe first; apparently, this is not the case now.
As of the situation in our 5 stores, we had taken over 30+ full deposits during the last week, and this time our HUAWEI lady told us we can only get 10 units per store per week, per latest HUAWEI policy/instruction/whatever. We were told that, HUAWEI continuously receives massive orders nationwide and the production of this phone is limited to 1 factory only in Guangdong Province. To get one unit immediately in the Chinese market, people are paying over $820 USD now! Even at China Mobile stores, Chine UniCom stores, Mate 7 is OFFICIALLY being sold over MSRP (+400 CNY mark up at least) and there is NO stocks! A major holiday is coming soon, 11 November (1111), the Single's Day in China. The availability issue will at least last till then, trust or not.
Message here for the EU xda community members: put your deposit with reputed online sellers (e.g., Amazon DE, France) NOW and you MAY expect to get one before Thanksgiving or Christmas holiday, maybe!
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What a load of BS. Sorry, this is not about this reseller, they're just reporting the absolute craptastic behavior of Huawei. How can a company announce a device and not have any stock a month later? I keep seeing they're still GIVING AWAY devices to journalists yet have no stock for their customers. It adds insult to injury about how bad this company does business. The Nexus 6 is looking better and better every day, PLUS, given what they just announced with not offering Kitkat for AM2, how likely is it going to be that they'll abandon this device as well 6 months down the road? They've already abandoned who knows how many users who have been waiting for a device until it is released.
I'm giving up. I'm looking at the other carriers' offerings. After all, the holiday season is when a lot of carriers release their newest devices. I don't get why Huawei can't seem to get their collective heads out of a certain orifice and actually decide if they want to move out of the #3 spot?
Finally, Black one in stock at amazon.de.
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Finally, Black one in stock at amazon.de.
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That is the shipment we talked about. Grab one as soon as you can. L09 is a single-Sim version though. If you need dual-Sim black version, it (TL00) is available in China.
Huawei announced general availability for the Ascend Mate 7 in Germany starting today. Recommended selling price is 499€ incl. taxes. You can choose between silver and black versions, both 16GB.
It would be good to know which firmware is preinstalled, since MT7-L09V100R001C00B120SP04 from earlier this month is still a bit buggy.
I have to agree wholeheartedly with sanjsrik. I'm done researching and considering this phone. Huawei, get your **** together.
Unsubscribing from this forum, good luck everyone ☺
mine was sent out day. maybe i get it tomorrow. paid for it 450€ (italy)
i go to my post office tomorrow to pickup mine, i'm not at my home when it come today.
From france
The end of Motorola has been announced.
Will the Nexus 6 become a prized possession, reminiscent of Motorola's accomplishments? Or maybe it will be forgotten, collecting dust alongside other phones that fell victim to the expansive mobile industry.
For me personally, the Nexus 6 is perhaps the best Motorola phone made. Call it nostalgia, but I will always love my n6. Goodbye Motorola, and thanks for the memories.
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Didnt know about the announcement but me an motorola go way back. People didn't even know what smartphone was back in the day (aside from tech people of course) and i was rocking Motorola mp200 windows smartphone edition, one of the best phones made. This is a sad day.
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So all products of Motorola are going away? It says they are still keeping the branding which makes it sound like they are removing the official name but still making the products under Levano
Lenovo isn't really ending Motorola Mobility. They are rebranding some phones like the Moto X and the budget devices will become Lenovo vibe phones.
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Treasure.
I bought this stuff recently.
And I'm sure it's worth for 200$ disregarding its low quality.
Not worried about it. They are still keeping the Moto name though.
What`s in a name?
I don't see anything special with Nexus 6 except motorola's collabration with Google. Otherwise It is just a beefed up moto x. There were devices made and engineered by motorola once in a time and that era ended with the Droid Razr.
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The end of Motorola has been announced.
Will the Nexus 6 become a prized possession, reminiscent of Motorola's accomplishments? Or maybe it will be forgotten, collecting dust alongside other phones that fell victim to the expansive mobile industry.
For me personally, the Nexus 6 is perhaps the best Motorola phone made. Call it nostalgia, but I will always love my n6. Goodbye Motorola, and thanks for the memories.
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Either you misread the article you read on it, or the author of that article misread the press release from Lenovo.
What is happening, is they are redefining the Motorola BRAND as exclusively premium, and merging all of the non-premium offerings in with Lenovo.
In other words, Lenovo = low/mid tier products, Motorola = high.
This move is to prevent product duplication. There is no point in having a high-end motorola competing with a high-end lenovo and a low end motorola competing with a low end lenovo.
Nexus 6 is a premium device, and a similar product would still carry the Motorola branding. So for us, nothing to see here.
TREASURE
Nexus 6 on sale for $249-$299
AMAZON.com running brand new 32G and 64G Nexus 6 sale again, until February 1st.
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Either you misread the article you read on it, or the author of that article misread the press release from Lenovo.
What is happening, is they are redefining the Motorola BRAND as exclusively premium, and merging all of the non-premium offerings in with Lenovo.
In other words, Lenovo = low/mid tier products, Motorola = high.
This move is to prevent product duplication. There is no point in having a high-end motorola competing with a high-end lenovo and a low end motorola competing with a low end lenovo.
Nexus 6 is a premium device, and a similar product would still carry the Motorola branding. So for us, nothing to see here.
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The thing that sucks is that they actually aren't using the full name "Motorola". The products will be just "MOTO" and they're keeping the "M" logo. You're right about the plan though:
Lenovo, which bought Motorola Mobility from Google in 2014, is unifying its two phone businesses under the Lenovo name. It's going to use Motorola's Moto brand for high-end products and its homegrown Vibe brand for budget devices. The Motorola name isn't completely gone. It will live on from a corporate perspective as a division of the Chinese consumer-electronics giant, said Motorola Chief Operating Officer Rick Osterloh... his business group will soon take over all mobile operations at Lenovo. This means bringing Vibe phones into markets where Moto exists, and vice versa.
In markets where the Lenovo name is strong, the company intends to introduce the Moto line as an upscale product.
- CNet
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The thing that sucks is that they actually aren't using the full name "Motorola". The products will be just "MOTO" and they're keeping the "M" logo. You're right about the plan though:
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I wasn't aware of that aspect of it.
Well, what else could you expect from China?
Treasure
Trash for sure. The Motorola Nexus 6 is the biggest piece of junk garbage phone I've ever owned. I take my phone out to take a photo of something and I'm waiting for the camera app to open so I can take the photo, my wife takes her iPhone out and takes the photo before my Nexus 6 will respond. I'm on my 2nd Nexus 6 and about to ask for another RMA because of the garbled/distorted notification sounds issue that so many others have. What really pisses me off is that I used to enjoy flashing custom ROMs and all that fun stuff - now I stick to only the Google images or Android N previews and I'm afraid to root the phone because it's so damned buggy. This phone undoubtedly has been the worst android phone experience I've had. I used to love flashing the custom ROMs and having all the new features - now I just want a phone that I can reliably use. I can't wait for my 2 year contract with Project Fi to end so I can get a different phone.
Treasure...love my N6.
Treasure. Though it was a toss-up between the Nexus 6 and the Moto X Pure 2015, the Nexus won out. My roommate got the Pure.
Treasure of course .
Definitely treasure. I've had my N6 since December and couldn't be happier. Huge screen, good build quality, wireless and turbo charging, excellent front speakers, great battery life (6+ hrs SOT) good enough camera and lots of custom ROMs.
Treasure of course. I have been using it for 3 months and it's the best Android I have ever owned. And i have not experienced any lags or hiccups whatsoever. Everything is smooth, battery timing is great. Couldn't be happier.