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Just got the Dev edition - purchased mainly to stay on the unlimited plan and didn't expect to root until I'm bored with stock (~6 months).
Although, I would unlock if it means it will allow removing the bloat. Anyone know if this is possible when unlocked? I'd try but want to stay under warranty for as long as possible.
Warranty is voided with an unlocked boot loader anyways. What do you mean u are still under warranty? What was the point of getting the dev edition if your not going to unlock it?
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jarzy00 said:
Warranty is voided with an unlocked boot loader anyways? What do you mean u are u still under warranty? What was the point of getting the dev edition if your not going to unlock it?
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The Dev edition is not shipped 'unlocked' - It still requires you to unlock it yourself. Therefore I'm still under a warrenty from motorola.
If I could remove bloat it would give me a good reason to void that warranty.
What else will unlock give me at this time? No ROMs yet.... and don't expect quality support of a rom for some time.
As I stated, the main reason for the dev edition was staying on the unlimited plan and the bonus of future ROM support (fingers crossed). The dev edition cost was the same as from verizon without contract. And as a bonus I have that little "Development Edition" signature on the kevlar back
Whattt! How'd you get it for the same cost?! I thought it was full retail price?
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He said "same cost from Verizon without contract". The developer edition is the same price as the retail version at full, non subsidized price.
That's what happens when I read too fast and go on this at work when I'm not supposed to lol.
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If you unlock the bootloader you can do what you please with the device. If you decide to unlock then you will want to visit me @ www.aosp.us and download a recovery (both ClockworkMod and TWRP) and also get a full XML file made for the dev edition.
wado1971 said:
Just got the Dev edition - purchased mainly to stay on the unlimited plan and didn't expect to root until I'm bored with stock (~6 months).
Although, I would unlock if it means it will allow removing the bloat. Anyone know if this is possible when unlocked? I'd try but want to stay under warranty for as long as possible.
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Thanks for the info.
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Dev edition same amount of bloatware as retail?
Does the Razr M developer edition have the same bloatware as the retail version? Since it is purchased direct from Motorola, I presumed VZW did not pack their garbage on there.
Thanks.
Verizon was sure to pack it with a bunch of apps. Just about everything can be disabled except media sync and backup assistant.
doohickey said:
Does the Razr M developer edition have the same bloatware as the retail version? Since it is purchased direct from Motorola, I presumed VZW did not pack their garbage on there.
Thanks.
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The firmware is one and the same.
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The firmware is one and the same.
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Is it branded too? with the verizon logo on the bottom?
Yes it has Verizon logo on front. It also has a Developer Edition logo on the back below the other Verizon 4G LTE logo.
jarzy00 said:
Warranty is voided with an unlocked boot loader anyways. What do you mean u are still under warranty? What was the point of getting the dev edition if your not going to unlock it?
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I have a Dev Edition and I have not unlocked it yet either for one simple reason....
I want Moto JB first with all the bugs worked out. I can still get the OTA if I unlock the boot loader first but I'm not much for tempting fate. Once my phone is on JB and stable, the boot loader is getting unlocked, I'm rooting, and pulling all the Vz bloat and spyware off my phone.
I'm not really waiting for KLP from Moto.
Does anyone have an RSD image for the RAZR M? I keep one for the Atrix 4G just in case. I love insurance.
mk1151 said:
I have a Dev Edition and I have not unlocked it yet either for one simple reason....
I want Moto JB first with all the bugs worked out. I can still get the OTA if I unlock the boot loader first but I'm not much for tempting fate. Once my phone is on JB and stable, the boot loader is getting unlocked, I'm rooting, and pulling all the Vz bloat and spyware off my phone.
I'm not really waiting for KLP from Moto.
Does anyone have an RSD image for the RAZR M? I keep one for the Atrix 4G just in case. I love insurance.
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one was released yesterday, check in this forum.
jimmydafish said:
one was released yesterday, check in this forum.
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Yep - I saw it after I asked... and there is now a very handy how-to page live as well.
So what is the best process to remove or disable bloat ware once unlocked etc?
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I got this in today. KingRoot fail on rooting it. Anyone got it to root yet?
No. There isn't a temporary root method, BUT, I suspect we'll be able to unlock the bootloader soon enough. People are panicking because the bootloader unlock site lists the Amazon exclusive version of the regular G4 to not be able to be unlocked, so they're assuming the G4 Play with Amazon ads and stuff will be the same... BUT what they fail to notice is that the Amazon G4p is NOT an Amazon exclusive. It's the XT1607, same as buying it direct from moto, it just has the *option* of Amazon installing lock screen ads and their apps for a $50 discount
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To unlock it.
About Phone > Keep hitting the Build number until the Developer options show up.
Developer options > OEM unlocking - Side it to the right.
Fully unlocked.
Just can't root it and put the TWRP on it yet.
I just need the root. That all. So I can remove some of the apps that I don't want.
Dunard said:
To unlock it.
About Phone > Keep hitting the Build number until the Developer options show up.
Developer options > OEM unlocking - Side it to the right.
Fully unlocked.
Just can't root it and put the TWRP on it yet.
I just need the root. That all. So I can remove some of the apps that I don't want.
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That doesn't unlock the bootloader. That just makes it possible to issue the fastboot command *to* unlock it once moto adds the XT1607 to the list of unlockable bootloaders. Just having that feature in the developer settings doesn't mean it's guaranteed to get an unlock either. The LG G4 for cdma networks had that option, but you couldn't unlock the bootloader.
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Is there a non root de bloat/ ad removal method for the Amazon version??
i was able to get my non amazon xt1607 bootloader unlocked. flashed cm 13 now i cant make any calls text messages or even go on the internet unless i use wifi. issues only started after i flashed cm13. now just waiting on stock rom on moto web site to start all over again.
I also have a non Amazon XT1607 with unlocked bootloader that i flashed CM13 on. Mine works fine except it shows roaming instead of LTE. Doesn't seem to effect anything though. I'm on PagePlus, which uses Verizon towers.
Was able to get the stock rom just not from moto site it works fine got LTE talk and text back. Just waiting on cm14.
Does any of this apply to xt1609? I just got news from unlocker that IMEI starting with 99 are not unlock able through our service because there is no method to enter code....? WTH??
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Does any of this apply to xt1609? I just got news from unlocker that IMEI starting with 99 are not unlock able through our service because there is no method to enter code....? WTH??
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No. The Verizon model cannot be bootloader unlocked.
Got one of these from BHphoto, i use it with straight talk, and i cant wifi tether it. It says go to att.com to setup tethering plan. Originally this phone was supposed to be unlocked. Any idea? Do i need to root it to tether? I did tethering from the same sim on my sony z3. So i know its not my provider for sure. Thanks.
DanHutchins said:
Was able to get the stock rom just not from moto site it works fine got LTE talk and text back. Just waiting on cm14.
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How did you root
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How did you root
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I rooted with twrp SuperSU and the SuperSU fixer. You have to flash the fixer in twrp then SuperSU.
Hi I got a xt1607 has anyone have tried to unlock it and put cm14 on it jet?
Thx
vvYvv said:
Hi I got a xt1607 has anyone have tried to unlock it and put cm14 on it jet?
Thx
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Yes the XT1607 can be bootloader unlocked and you can flash CM on it.
vvYvv said:
Hi I got a xt1607 has anyone have tried to unlock it and put cm14 on it jet?
Thx
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The prime edition (Amazon) of the XT1607 can't be unlocked, but the regular ad-free version of the XT1607 can be unlocked.
vvYvv said:
Hi I got a xt1607 has anyone have tried to unlock it and put cm14 on it jet?
Thx
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I have the bootloader unlocked on mine and have flashed several of the roms that are available. I have the retail $150usd variant. As long as it's not Verizon or the Amazon version you should be able to unlock it fine
OK thanks. I found the files and direction on another forum.
I bought the unlocked XT1607 from BHPhoto as well .
Is there a way to toggle mobile data on and off? I am using this on a prepaid plan with limited 3 GB of data and I don't want to be drawing down data when I don't need it to be.
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I bought the unlocked XT1607 from BHPhoto as well .
Is there a way to toggle mobile data on and off? I am using this on a prepaid plan with limited 3 GB of data and I don't want to be drawing down data when I don't need it to be.
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You can use the pull down menu (slide it down from the top of any screen) and press the data signal bars icon to toggle mobile data. Or you can also go into settings>data usage>cellular data and toggle it on and off from there. Hope this helps
I did the big update today for the newest software patch available for the Motorla G4.
My ads are back unfortunately.
Does anyone know if there's a tutorial to remove the ads for the latest version of the software update?
Thanks!!
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I did the big update today for the newest software patch available for the Motorla G4.
My ads are back unfortunately.
Does anyone know if there's a tutorial to remove the ads for the latest version of the software update?
Thanks!!
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I don't recall anyone getting an Amazon update. Sadly you did answer a question I'm sure all the Amazon G4 owners had.
I have the same experience - can we use the same process as before, or use the just posted factory image?
Was you rooted with unlocked bootloader? It just appeared for me as well. I want to update but don't want to relock bootloader but I do still have the original code from moto to unlock it I think.
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Was you rooted with unlocked bootloader? It just appeared for me as well. I want to update but don't want to relock bootloader but I do still have the original code from moto to unlock it I think.
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If you're rooted you can't install an OTA but it doesn't matter if you're unlocked. Once you've used the unlock code from MOTO you're always unlocked and won't have to enter it again. If for some way they've managed to relock it on the Amazon ad phones then I would imagine they've also blocked it from a future unlock. In the past though once unlocked the bootloader is always unlocked.
I'm not locked to any specific carrier as far as I know.. purchased this off of Amazon for $125.. USA version.
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I'm not locked to any specific carrier as far as I know.. purchased this off of Amazon for $125.. USA version.
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I was talking about an unlocked bootloader.
Tel864 said:
I was talking about an unlocked bootloader.
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gotcha, unfortunately these ones you can't unlock
You are more likely to find help in the Moto G4 section. This is Moto G4 plus, of which there is no Amazon variant.
Is there a way to root the amazon ads version of this phone or are we stuck in the same boat as the verizon version?
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I've been reading up on the Moto G4 Play forums and I am wondering if initroot is possible with the Moto E4. I've run the sunshine APK and it says the pretests have passed and that temproot is needed to continue. So would initroot + sunshine = unlock? Or are sunshine and initroot patched. Do I have this all wrong or??? Would love some input, thanks.
EDIT: Appears SunShine doesn't support the E line of devices, may still work though...
this tethered vulnerability was fixed back in June ...moto e4 comes out of the box with higher than June security patch .......
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this tethered vulnerability was fixed back in June ...moto e4 comes out of the box with higher than June security patch .......
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So are SOL then?
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So are SOL then?
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hard to say with finality but definitely SOL if uour security patch is higher than June in regards to the exploits you want to use
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Is there a way to root the amazon ads version of this phone or are we stuck in the same boat as the verizon version?
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Have you entered your code on moto site to see if it can be unlocked? Just curious. I thought I saw someone with that amazon ads version unlock the bootloader. I could be wrong though.
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Have you entered your code on moto site to see if it can be unlocked? Just curious. I thought I saw someone with that amazon ads version unlock the bootloader. I could be wrong though.
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Yeah i've tried it a few times but unfortunately it doesn't work, for some people it works for some reason. Hopefully someone can find a temp root solution then sunshine MIGHT work.
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Have you entered your code on moto site to see if it can be unlocked? Just curious. I thought I saw someone with that amazon ads version unlock the bootloader. I could be wrong though.
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I think that was just a tutorial on how to disable ads/bloatware with fastboot.
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I think that was just a tutorial on how to disable ads/bloatware with fastboot.
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I've already removed the ads when I got it.
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It would be cool if someone created an unofficial Android 8 update for the e4's based on the stock kernel and everything so we could flash it without unlocked bootloader. Or is that not possible...
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It would be cool if someone created an unofficial Android 8 update for the e4's based on the stock kernel and everything so we could flash it without unlocked bootloader. Or is that not possible...
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without an unlocked bootloader you can',t flash files they don't get written unless signed by manufacturer so your Oreo would have to come from LenovoMoto
http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2017/11/30/1
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I need root with this vulnerability, then I think you can change the firmware to another version
not an amazon
Well I dont feel like waiting for a bootloader unlock that will most likely never happen, I'm sending my Amazon e4 back and getting a normal version. Good luck to you all!
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Have you entered your code on moto site to see if it can be unlocked? Just curious. I thought I saw someone with that amazon ads version unlock the bootloader. I could be wrong though.
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I just tried this with the bootloader unlock code from my Amazon Moto E4 on Motos website..."Your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking"...F*ckers...lol...
amazon just canceled the ad program, all devices will have the ads removed...
http://www.zdnet.com/article/amazon-removing-lockscreen-offers-and-ads-from-prime-exclusive-phones/
wonder if it would affect the bootloader unlock policy
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amazon just canceled the ad program, all devices will have the ads removed...
http://www.zdnet.com/article/amazon-removing-lockscreen-offers-and-ads-from-prime-exclusive-phones/
wonder if it would affect the bootloader unlock policy
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Not a chance. Zero incentive for Amazon to change the status quo.
its been a few months since ive tried to unlock my amazon e4's bootloader, so i tried it again... IT WORKED. I bought this phone on Aug. 26, 2017...so not quite a year old, but i was able to unlock it following the instructions on motos website.
It figures too...I just picked up a Pixel XL for $200 too...oh well. If you guys are still interested in unlocking, give it a try now before Amazon or Moto change their minds!
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its been a few months since ive tried to unlock my amazon e4's bootloader, so i tried it again... IT WORKED. I bought this phone on Aug. 26, 2017...so not quite a year old, but i was able to unlock it following the instructions on motos website.
It figures too...I just picked up a Pixel XL for $200 too...oh well. If you guys are still interested in unlocking, give it a try now before Amazon or Moto change their minds!
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I am truly shocked! The cost/effort to maintain an exclusion list of device identifiers must have outweighed the business benefit (Amazon ecosystem lockin) assuming it was not an inadvertent disclosure. That leaves Verizon (XT1767) as the only major that can't be bootloader unlocked.
I noticed the price gap between 'prime' and 'standard' variants has narrowed of late - perhaps in recognition of revenue loss due to lack of lock screen ads (Amazon policy change) and/or more freedom to root and remove Amazon exclusive content - aka 'bloat'.
got excited, but sad to report it didn't work for me.
Option is greyed out on mine ... it's a Google Store phone. purchased from Google specifically so I would be able to unlock.
And I can't. I'm p*ssed. Very unhappy.
Are you saying you can't check on the OEM unlocking option under Developer Options?
I just checked and I was able to do it.
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. It's greyed/disabled.
and per Google, I have a VZW branded phone.
So now it's going back. $900 wasted.
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and per Google, I have a VZW branded phone.
So now it's going back. $900 wasted.
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Did you buy from Verizon or Google store?
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Did you buy from Verizon or Google store?
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Google Store. They are selling 3 models of Pixel 4 : unlocked, VZW locked, and Google Fi.
They sent me a VZW one.
I was able to unlock mine no problem. I bought the unlocked version from Google even though I'm on Verizon. I put my Verizon sim in, skipped all the setup, ticked to allow oem unlocking, rebooted to bootloader and unlocked no problem.
That's a bummer yo.
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Google Store. They are selling 3 models of Pixel 4 : unlocked, VZW locked, and Google Fi.
They sent me a VZW one.
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Are you just going to return and cancel or are they exchanging it for you?
That sucks..
For those who unlock. Do you use something for Google Pay? (That magisk thing?)
Also...do you know if device theft protection still works if stolen?
I recently tried to root my Pixel 2 but then I rolled back because I wasn't sure of these two things.
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does this mean we can flash magisk root if we unlock the bootloader?
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That sucks..
For those who unlock. Do you use something for Google Pay? (That magisk thing?)
Also...do you know if device theft protection still works if stolen?
I recently tried to root my Pixel 2 but then I rolled back because I wasn't sure of these two things.
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I haven't unlocked in years but I do read about it. I think you only need Magisk if you're going to root. Bootloader unlock only needs a kernel to bypass the unlock check. But since there are no kernels yet you can't use GP if you unlock the P4.
Until Google releases the factory images for the P4, it may be hard to install Magisk. Without TWRP, we need to use the boot image modification method. Unless you are competent enough to find and extract the boot.img from your phone, you will have to wait until the factory images are released to get your hands on it.
So while it is probably technically possible to root right now, the ave person that isn't an Android OS expert probably won't have the technical skills to do it.
To those asking ... yes, I bought from google store. They sent me the verizon variant instead of the unlocked variant.
re: google pay/etc (anything requiring safetynet), Magisk can provide root, and its Magiskhide component can hide that root from SafetyNet. Installing Xposed inside Magisk, however, cannot be hidden.
re: installing magisk if you unlock the bootloader - that's a yes.
Anyone in here extracted the boot.img from the factory image yet?
I'm on a mac right now so I was hoping to just download someone elses.
My OEM unlock is available. I'm waiting for root. The only thing I want right now is hotspot. I was hoping that since it's an unlocked phone that it would work straight out of the box. I've been with LG since the G4 and I've always bought mine unlocked and the hotspot works without having to go through Verizon and pay for the subscription. I'm on the old grandfathered unlimited data plan. I'd hate to have to return this phone and go with the G8 but I don't have internet where I live and I have to have hotspot.
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My OEM unlock is available. I'm waiting for root. The only thing I want right now is hotspot. I was hoping that since it's an unlocked phone that it would work straight out of the box. I've been with LG send the G4 and I've always bought mine unlocked and the hotspot works without having to go through Verizon and pay for the subscription. I'm on the old grandfathered unlimited data plan. I'd have to have to return this phone and go with the G8 but I don't have internet where I live and I have to have hotspot.
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You know w have root right? You don't need a custom recovery when you can use the patched boot method from magisk along with fastboot.
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You know w have root right? You don't need a custom recovery when you can use the patched boot method from magisk along with fastboot.
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?? ...I did not... I'll do a search
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You know w have root right? You don't need a custom recovery when you can use the patched boot method from magisk along with fastboot.
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Would you mind sharing your unpatched boot.img?
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Would you mind sharing your unpatched boot.img?
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You can get it with the system images that are available from Google. It'd be hesitant to give you the one I downloaded in case you have one of the other 2 variants of the October release (this assumes that the boot.img's are even different which in not sure).
I got a tester device so it was already unlocked. I'm just waiting for TWRP before I start messing with it.