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[LOLLIPOP WARNING]Those Who Unlocked Via Sunshine or Purchasing a Code from China

There is an Enable OEM Unlock option that is appearing in the Developer Options of the N6 and MX14 running 5.1 and if it is not checked, you cannot unlock your bootloader. If you unlocked via Sunshine or purchased a code for your device from the Chinese code seller, we do not know what is going to happen wrt this Enable OEM Unlock option for your phone if you upgrade to 5.1.
Until we do, it is safest to not upgrade and stay unlocked until 5.1 drops and the situation becomes clearer.

JulesJam said:
There is an Enable OEM Unlock option that is appearing in the Developer Options of the N6 and MX14 running 5.1 and if it is not checked, you cannot unlock your bootloader. If you unlocked via Sunshine or purchased a code for your device from the Chinese code seller, we do not know what is going to happen wrt this Enable OEM Unlock option for your phone if you upgrade to 5.1.
Until we do, it is safest to not upgrade and stay unlocked until 5.1 drops and the situation becomes clearer.
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I don't think this is going to be an issue. People said in the N6 forums that they were able to unlock via fastboot without ever changing that setting in developer options. They hadn't even booted the phone into Android yet, just took it out of the box, put it in fastboot and unlocked.
I can't imagine the OTA would lock the bootloader, but who knows...

fury683 said:
I don't think this is going to be an issue. People said in the N6 forums that they were able to unlock via fastboot without ever changing that setting in developer options. They hadn't even booted the phone into Android yet, just took it out of the box, put it in fastboot and unlocked.
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But others relocked after unlocking and didn't check the box then flashed something, ended up in a bootloop and were unable to unlock again to repair their phones.
Regardless, you cannot rely on what happens with a Nexus device. These MX13's were never intended to have unlockable bootloaders, whereas the Nexi were intended to have unlockable bootloaders.
fury683 said:
I can't imagine the OTA would lock the bootloader, but who knows...
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I don't think it will relock the bootloader either. I am more concerned about those who relock then take the update not realizing that they will not be able to unlock again.

JulesJam said:
These MX13's were never intended to have unlockable bootloaders, whereas the Nexi were intended to have unlockable bootloaders.
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Except the Developer Edition units that are identical in every way to the retail versions, but the unlock code is obtainable.
Regardless, I will wait until the process is confirmed and use the same process that I did to update from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4. Reflash stock /recovery and a clean /system, take OTA, then reflash TWRP and flash SuperSU. I value my root to much to risk it.
Didn't intend to say you were wrong in my first post, just that people had the same thoughts when the N6 came out and it wasn't a problem. People freaked out when My Verizon updated a while back and it requested root permissions, too. It's an abundance of caution, I get it.

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Except the Developer Edition units that are identical in every way to the retail versions, but the unlock code is obtainable.
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The GSM Dev Ed is not identical to the AT&T MX13. But still, so what? None of us know how this is going to be implemented in 5.1. We can speculate all we want but we will know for sure once it is released.
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Regardless, I will wait until the process is confirmed and use the same process that I did to update from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4. Reflash stock /recovery and a clean /system, take OTA, then reflash TWRP and flash SuperSU. I value my root to much to risk it.
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Rather than take the OTA, I would use Motorola Device Manager to upgrade - it leaves a copy of the fxz on your computer.

fury683 said:
, just that people had the same thoughts when the N6 came out
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No, they could not have had the same thoughts as the N6 was always an unlockable device. You don't have to use Sunshine or purchase an unlock code to unlock the N6. So whatever thoughts anyone has had about the Enable OEM Unlock feature wrt how it would work with the N6 have nothing at all to do with this thread. The situations are totally different.
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and it wasn't a problem
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On the contrary - it has been quite a problem for a lot of people with N6's who relocked their bootloaders. That is well documented on the N6 forum.

Why would I relock my bootloader to take the OTA? Why would I relock for any purpose?

Running the soak test of Android 5.1 and there is no Enable OEM Unlock option on it..

Saythis said:
Running the soak test of Android 5.1 and there is no Enable OEM Unlock option on it..
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The option only appears when you update to 5.1 with your bootloader locked.

fury683 said:
Except the Developer Edition units that are identical in every way to the retail versions, but the unlock code is obtainable...
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Most would expect that for those Moto freely gives away the bootloader unlock code for (on their web site), should be ok and not impacted. At least that is what we hope, otherwise Moto could have a bunch (maybe a small bunch) of angry users on their hand
But the thought about a warning or caution was directed toward those with ATT, Republic Wireless, or Verizon (non-dev) units who either purchased their bootloader unlock code from the China seller (or middle man) when it was available, or used Sunshine in order to bootloader unlock... since those devices were not ever intended to be bootloader unlocked.... There is uncertainty over this new "check box" in the rom. Moto could leave it out for those models (especially since ATT and RW use their own roms, VZW could be a little trickier since all XT1060's, dev and non-dev use the same rom), and if so, how does that impact any user who had a code and didn't use it yet, or unlocked, and might later want to relock for some reason.
For Sunshine, the concern would be due to changes in the phone's bootloader, TZ, or other parts that might be included in the update which might close that exploited vulnerability down. Think back to how some of the early Root/WPDisable processes were said to be "permanent" only to find they were NOT when the next OTA came out and "un-did" the hack.
So yeah, as you said...
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It's an abundance of caution, I get it.
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superkeest said:
Why would I relock my bootloader to take the OTA? Why would I relock for any purpose?
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Some people relock b/c they think it is more secure if they lose their phone or it gets stolen.

it leaves a copy of the fxz on your computer.

sseuorosal said:
it leaves a copy of the fxz on your computer.
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Motorola Device Manager does, yes if you upgrade using MDM, you will have a copy of the fxz on your computer.

Any Updates on this situation?
It's almost been a month. Has anything new been discovered? I'd like to know if I can update to 5.1.

dont know about 5.1 but when i flashed 4.4.4 removing cm 12.1 on my att moto x it didnt relock my bootloader hope this stays same with 5.1 i used sunshine to unlock.

Icon000 said:
It's almost been a month. Has anything new been discovered? I'd like to know if I can update to 5.1.
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The 5.1 OTA for ATT, Republic Wireless and Verizon hasn't been available yet, so I doubt anyone has tried it.
The only ones upgrading to 5.1 right now are those with a bootloader that is unlockable via code from Moto's web site.
I haven't seen Jcase, Beaups, or anyone related to Sunshine make any comments.

Further... I asked in the Sunshine thread...
See JCASE's response -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61503326&postcount=3529

I have an XT1060 (VZW), unlocked via Sunshine. I recently switched to T-Mo, and although the VZW build worked fine, I wanted Lollipop, so I flashed the stock T-Mo 4.4.4 build, and then sideloaded the 5.1 update. I am still unlocked and everything is working fine. I'm not sure if this totally mimics your situation, but I can say that the 5.1 update rolling out to T-Mobile doesn't affect the bootloader status for Sunshine unlocked devices.

breakthestatic said:
I have an XT1060 (VZW), unlocked via Sunshine. I recently switched to T-Mo, and although the VZW build worked fine, I wanted Lollipop, so I flashed the stock T-Mo 4.4.4 build, and then sideloaded the 5.1 update. I am still unlocked and everything is working fine. I'm not sure if this totally mimics your situation, but I can say that the 5.1 update rolling out to T-Mobile doesn't affect the bootloader status for Sunshine unlocked devices.
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Exactly what I've done, converted my mother's Sunshine unlocked BL Verizon Moto X into a T-Mobile one. I'm waiting for the OTA instead of sideloading to see how things go. I'm guessing by your experience she shouldn't have any problems taking the OTA update to 5.1.

Maverick-DBZ- said:
Exactly what I've done, converted my mother's Sunshine unlocked BL Verizon Moto X into a T-Mobile one. I'm waiting for the OTA instead of sideloading to see how things go. I'm guessing by your experience she shouldn't have any problems taking the OTA update to 5.1.
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How did you convert it, I'm considering converting my att moto x to retail version. Btw its bootloader is unlocked

Sprint S7 unlocked: Is there a way to update it safely?

Long time reader...first time poster
I bought an unlocked sprint s7 from ebay and it works like a dream and i was wondering if there was a safe method to update the phone WITHOUT ruining the unlock that the seller put on the phone.
Current software is update PC5 and i would love to benefit from security and bug fixes in new releases.
Thanks in advance!

nmarz3 said:
Long time reader...first time poster
I bought an unlocked sprint s7 from ebay and it works like a dream and i was wondering if there was a safe method to update the phone WITHOUT ruining the unlock that the seller put on the phone.
Current software is update PC5 and i would love to benefit from security and bug fixes in new releases.
Thanks in advance!
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I always thought if a phone gets carrier unlocked it didnt matter what u did to it, it would stay unlocked. Unless the way he got it unlocked was thru a mod maybe that can b ruined. Im not sure

shooterlgk said:
I always thought if a phone gets carrier unlocked it didnt matter what u did to it, it would stay unlocked. Unless the way he got it unlocked was thru a mod maybe that can b ruined. Im not sure
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Most likely not a carrier unlock do to a unlocked padlock during boot animation as well as samsung pay not working due to software mods that im guessing made it unlocked in the first place. Thanks for the reply!

nmarz3 said:
Most likely not a carrier unlock do to a unlocked padlock during boot animation as well as samsung pay not working due to software mods that im guessing made it unlocked in the first place. Thanks for the reply!
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Yea ur safest bet is to keep it as it is so u wont lose that. No problem

nmarz3 said:
Most likely not a carrier unlock do to a unlocked padlock during boot animation as well as samsung pay not working due to software mods that im guessing made it unlocked in the first place. Thanks for the reply!
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Bootloader unlock and sim unlock are two different things. You said it has an unlock pad on boot up screen. That means it's bootloader is unlocked. Which means if I am correct if it has a custom recovery you are unable to do future ota updates. Can and possibly brick your phone. You can flash a ton that has the new update no issues developers are usually fairly quick to update there rom on the latest ota.

marcviado said:
Bootloader unlock and sim unlock are two different things. You said it has an unlock pad on boot up screen. That means it's bootloader is unlocked. Which means if I am correct if it has a custom recovery you are unable to do future ota updates. Can and possibly brick your phone. You can flash a ton that has the new update no issues developers are usually fairly quick to update there rom on the latest ota.
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Now my question is that since my phones bootloader is unlocked via custom software, would it be safe to root it and install custom roms that have the current updates? thanks

nmarz3 said:
Now my question is that since my phones bootloader is unlocked via custom software, would it be safe to root it and install custom roms that have the current updates? thanks
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Yes! You are in the wrong forum though. You are on sprint but need to be with the enxyos forum ND running their tarp and roms

Have the same dilemma as OP.
unlocked on PC5 firmware with GCPro. No root was used
Should i update OTA or leave it be.

xronikus said:
Have the same dilemma as OP.
unlocked on PC5 firmware with GCPro. No root was used
Should i update OTA or leave it be.
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I can confirm that updating over OTA will NOT screw with the unlock of the device. If your samsung pay does not work i would disable knox with a package disabler app to receive samsung pay in you new updated state.

OTA update from PC5 to PH7 on unlocked phone went smoothly.
Thanks

I have a unlocked Sprint S7 but im outside of America, is there any way i can update without losing the unlock? i don't want to end with an expensive brick.
Im stuck in G930PVPU2APC5 and i can't receive OTA updates

I bought unlocked sprint s7 that I'm using with metro PCS, but it's not letting me update the profile and because of that I'm not getting the wifi hotspot option. How do I get it to work?

@ThaDunder : You must initially do it manually over samsung smart switch then OTA will work @zirnitra : Sadly wifi tethering is not working for me either...no idea how to fix it =/ must be a symptom of the unlocking like wifi calling

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@ThaDunder : You must initially do it manually over samsung smart switch then OTA will work @zirnitra : Sadly wifi tethering is not working for me either...no idea how to fix it =/ must be a symptom of the unlocking like wifi calling
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I already tried that, smart switch says there is no update available.

moto g4 xt1625 :0

Since the phone cant be unlocked what have you done with your moto g4 16gigs amazon

i made a brick.. Now, i am waiting for "nougat ota" for try again via fastboot

asim javed said:
Since the phone cant be unlocked what have you done with your moto g4 16gigs amazon
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It is not true that Amazon version of the Moto G4 cannot be unlocked. I did mine just yesterday, following instructions in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4/how-to/how-to-root-g4-fix-bootable-attempted-t3417592. I have it both bootloader unlocked and rooted. Just follow the instructions closely. Cheers.

Kaziwazee said:
It is not true that Amazon version of the Moto G4 cannot be unlocked. I did mine just yesterday, following instructions in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4/how-to/how-to-root-g4-fix-bootable-attempted-t3417592. I have it both bootloader unlocked and rooted. Just follow the instructions closely. Cheers.
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Do you have the 16 or 32gb model? You're sure you had the one with ads?

MoseIlla said:
Do you have the 16 or 32gb model? You're sure you had the one with ads?
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Kaziwazee said:
It is not true that Amazon version of the Moto G4 cannot be unlocked. I did mine just yesterday, following instructions in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4/how-to/how-to-root-g4-fix-bootable-attempted-t3417592. I have it both bootloader unlocked and rooted. Just follow the instructions closely. Cheers.
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Inside this guide say:
NOTE: As of 7/18/2016, Amazon ad-subsidised Moto G 4th Gen devices cannot be bootloader unlocked, therefore they cannot be rooted. Sorry, Lollipop and newer Android security changes pretty much put an end to that.
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if you have 32gb model you can try with success, but if you have 16gb model, maybe you want to sit down and cry
I have 16gb model and i cant unlocked it, i tried..
So, if you don't have bootloader unlocked don't try to root your phone or change your rom.
trust me, i tried to made an update via fastboot to nougat and i made a beautiful brick..

Mine is the 32gb model. Even though it says that it cannot be bootloader unlocked in the thread, once you go to the Motorola link provided and enter the details of your phone if you get a verification code your phone CAN be unlocked. It is what I did, and was surprised that I actually got the code. From there, everything was pretty straightforward.

MoseIlla said:
Do you have the 16 or 32gb model? You're sure you had the one with ads?
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I can confirm that my xt1625, 16gb ad supported, now has an unlocked bootloader. I got this phone just over a month ago. Maybe something changed in the latest revision? Maybe someone made some big mistakes during manufacturing?

Anyone in the US getting the OTA Nougat update for the XT1625? was hoping it was coming soon...

thetouchablegod said:
I can confirm that my xt1625, 16gb ad supported, now has an unlocked bootloader. I got this phone just over a month ago. Maybe something changed in the latest revision? Maybe someone made some big mistakes during manufacturing?
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version?
the only thing i have been able to do is overwrite the splash logo and the picture in the background during fastboot. motorola says my version is unsupported. wish i knew of a way of bruteforcing unlock codes

Flashing Motorola firmware on Verizon set

Can I flash official Motorola firmware in VERIZON Droid turbo 2 set? To. Remove all Verizon crap
I am currently on nougat 7.0.0

Simple answer? NO

ferolac said:
Simple answer? NO
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Why please elaborate. Even though hardware is same

earthworm82 said:
Why please elaborate. Even though hardware is same
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because of locked bootloader

ferolac said:
because of locked bootloader
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You can't upgrade because the bootloader is locked. The bootloader is locked because Verizon are money hungry and want to ensure you need an upgrade.

but in developer option there is an option to unlock boot loader isint that suffice ?

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anyone please update

is it or is it not Verizon?
Hi all, I am in no way a developer, found out about this site from a Quora post about *drumroll* rooting a DT2. My question is this: I purchased my phone reconditioned (whatever that entails) from Amazon. It does not have the Verizon check mark on the bottom--does that mean I can root it? Please help!

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You can't upgrade because the bootloader is locked. The bootloader is locked because Verizon are money hungry and want to ensure you need an upgrade.
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Could we trick the DT2 into believing its an update for it, but then update the firmware to unlock the bootloader?... How does Verizon update the firmware themselves if the bootloader is locked?

Amazon E4 Bootloader Unlock/Root?

Is there a way to root the amazon ads version of this phone or are we stuck in the same boat as the verizon version?

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I've been reading up on the Moto G4 Play forums and I am wondering if initroot is possible with the Moto E4. I've run the sunshine APK and it says the pretests have passed and that temproot is needed to continue. So would initroot + sunshine = unlock? Or are sunshine and initroot patched. Do I have this all wrong or??? Would love some input, thanks.
EDIT: Appears SunShine doesn't support the E line of devices, may still work though...

this tethered vulnerability was fixed back in June ...moto e4 comes out of the box with higher than June security patch .......

KevMetal said:
this tethered vulnerability was fixed back in June ...moto e4 comes out of the box with higher than June security patch .......
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So are SOL then?
Sent from my Moto E4 using XDA Labs

TheJAYpoop said:
So are SOL then?
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hard to say with finality but definitely SOL if uour security patch is higher than June in regards to the exploits you want to use

TheJAYpoop said:
Is there a way to root the amazon ads version of this phone or are we stuck in the same boat as the verizon version?
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Have you entered your code on moto site to see if it can be unlocked? Just curious. I thought I saw someone with that amazon ads version unlock the bootloader. I could be wrong though.

madbat99 said:
Have you entered your code on moto site to see if it can be unlocked? Just curious. I thought I saw someone with that amazon ads version unlock the bootloader. I could be wrong though.
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Yeah i've tried it a few times but unfortunately it doesn't work, for some people it works for some reason. Hopefully someone can find a temp root solution then sunshine MIGHT work.

madbat99 said:
Have you entered your code on moto site to see if it can be unlocked? Just curious. I thought I saw someone with that amazon ads version unlock the bootloader. I could be wrong though.
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I think that was just a tutorial on how to disable ads/bloatware with fastboot.

volatile1 said:
I think that was just a tutorial on how to disable ads/bloatware with fastboot.
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I've already removed the ads when I got it.
Sent from my Moto E4 using XDA Labs

It would be cool if someone created an unofficial Android 8 update for the e4's based on the stock kernel and everything so we could flash it without unlocked bootloader. Or is that not possible...
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TheJAYpoop said:
It would be cool if someone created an unofficial Android 8 update for the e4's based on the stock kernel and everything so we could flash it without unlocked bootloader. Or is that not possible...
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without an unlocked bootloader you can',t flash files they don't get written unless signed by manufacturer so your Oreo would have to come from LenovoMoto

http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2017/11/30/1
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I need root with this vulnerability, then I think you can change the firmware to another version
not an amazon

Well I dont feel like waiting for a bootloader unlock that will most likely never happen, I'm sending my Amazon e4 back and getting a normal version. Good luck to you all!
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madbat99 said:
Have you entered your code on moto site to see if it can be unlocked? Just curious. I thought I saw someone with that amazon ads version unlock the bootloader. I could be wrong though.
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I just tried this with the bootloader unlock code from my Amazon Moto E4 on Motos website..."Your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking"...F*ckers...lol...

amazon just canceled the ad program, all devices will have the ads removed...
http://www.zdnet.com/article/amazon-removing-lockscreen-offers-and-ads-from-prime-exclusive-phones/
wonder if it would affect the bootloader unlock policy

djdevin said:
amazon just canceled the ad program, all devices will have the ads removed...
http://www.zdnet.com/article/amazon-removing-lockscreen-offers-and-ads-from-prime-exclusive-phones/
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Not a chance. Zero incentive for Amazon to change the status quo.

its been a few months since ive tried to unlock my amazon e4's bootloader, so i tried it again... IT WORKED. I bought this phone on Aug. 26, 2017...so not quite a year old, but i was able to unlock it following the instructions on motos website.
It figures too...I just picked up a Pixel XL for $200 too...oh well. If you guys are still interested in unlocking, give it a try now before Amazon or Moto change their minds!

juggalofr33k said:
its been a few months since ive tried to unlock my amazon e4's bootloader, so i tried it again... IT WORKED. I bought this phone on Aug. 26, 2017...so not quite a year old, but i was able to unlock it following the instructions on motos website.
It figures too...I just picked up a Pixel XL for $200 too...oh well. If you guys are still interested in unlocking, give it a try now before Amazon or Moto change their minds!
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I am truly shocked! The cost/effort to maintain an exclusion list of device identifiers must have outweighed the business benefit (Amazon ecosystem lockin) assuming it was not an inadvertent disclosure. That leaves Verizon (XT1767) as the only major that can't be bootloader unlocked.
I noticed the price gap between 'prime' and 'standard' variants has narrowed of late - perhaps in recognition of revenue loss due to lack of lock screen ads (Amazon policy change) and/or more freedom to root and remove Amazon exclusive content - aka 'bloat'.

got excited, but sad to report it didn't work for me.