Is there a way to root the amazon ads version of this phone or are we stuck in the same boat as the verizon version?
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I've been reading up on the Moto G4 Play forums and I am wondering if initroot is possible with the Moto E4. I've run the sunshine APK and it says the pretests have passed and that temproot is needed to continue. So would initroot + sunshine = unlock? Or are sunshine and initroot patched. Do I have this all wrong or??? Would love some input, thanks.
EDIT: Appears SunShine doesn't support the E line of devices, may still work though...
this tethered vulnerability was fixed back in June ...moto e4 comes out of the box with higher than June security patch .......
KevMetal said:
this tethered vulnerability was fixed back in June ...moto e4 comes out of the box with higher than June security patch .......
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So are SOL then?
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So are SOL then?
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hard to say with finality but definitely SOL if uour security patch is higher than June in regards to the exploits you want to use
TheJAYpoop said:
Is there a way to root the amazon ads version of this phone or are we stuck in the same boat as the verizon version?
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Have you entered your code on moto site to see if it can be unlocked? Just curious. I thought I saw someone with that amazon ads version unlock the bootloader. I could be wrong though.
madbat99 said:
Have you entered your code on moto site to see if it can be unlocked? Just curious. I thought I saw someone with that amazon ads version unlock the bootloader. I could be wrong though.
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Yeah i've tried it a few times but unfortunately it doesn't work, for some people it works for some reason. Hopefully someone can find a temp root solution then sunshine MIGHT work.
madbat99 said:
Have you entered your code on moto site to see if it can be unlocked? Just curious. I thought I saw someone with that amazon ads version unlock the bootloader. I could be wrong though.
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I think that was just a tutorial on how to disable ads/bloatware with fastboot.
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I think that was just a tutorial on how to disable ads/bloatware with fastboot.
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I've already removed the ads when I got it.
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It would be cool if someone created an unofficial Android 8 update for the e4's based on the stock kernel and everything so we could flash it without unlocked bootloader. Or is that not possible...
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It would be cool if someone created an unofficial Android 8 update for the e4's based on the stock kernel and everything so we could flash it without unlocked bootloader. Or is that not possible...
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without an unlocked bootloader you can',t flash files they don't get written unless signed by manufacturer so your Oreo would have to come from LenovoMoto
http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2017/11/30/1
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I need root with this vulnerability, then I think you can change the firmware to another version
not an amazon
Well I dont feel like waiting for a bootloader unlock that will most likely never happen, I'm sending my Amazon e4 back and getting a normal version. Good luck to you all!
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madbat99 said:
Have you entered your code on moto site to see if it can be unlocked? Just curious. I thought I saw someone with that amazon ads version unlock the bootloader. I could be wrong though.
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I just tried this with the bootloader unlock code from my Amazon Moto E4 on Motos website..."Your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking"...F*ckers...lol...
amazon just canceled the ad program, all devices will have the ads removed...
http://www.zdnet.com/article/amazon-removing-lockscreen-offers-and-ads-from-prime-exclusive-phones/
wonder if it would affect the bootloader unlock policy
djdevin said:
amazon just canceled the ad program, all devices will have the ads removed...
http://www.zdnet.com/article/amazon-removing-lockscreen-offers-and-ads-from-prime-exclusive-phones/
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Not a chance. Zero incentive for Amazon to change the status quo.
its been a few months since ive tried to unlock my amazon e4's bootloader, so i tried it again... IT WORKED. I bought this phone on Aug. 26, 2017...so not quite a year old, but i was able to unlock it following the instructions on motos website.
It figures too...I just picked up a Pixel XL for $200 too...oh well. If you guys are still interested in unlocking, give it a try now before Amazon or Moto change their minds!
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its been a few months since ive tried to unlock my amazon e4's bootloader, so i tried it again... IT WORKED. I bought this phone on Aug. 26, 2017...so not quite a year old, but i was able to unlock it following the instructions on motos website.
It figures too...I just picked up a Pixel XL for $200 too...oh well. If you guys are still interested in unlocking, give it a try now before Amazon or Moto change their minds!
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I am truly shocked! The cost/effort to maintain an exclusion list of device identifiers must have outweighed the business benefit (Amazon ecosystem lockin) assuming it was not an inadvertent disclosure. That leaves Verizon (XT1767) as the only major that can't be bootloader unlocked.
I noticed the price gap between 'prime' and 'standard' variants has narrowed of late - perhaps in recognition of revenue loss due to lack of lock screen ads (Amazon policy change) and/or more freedom to root and remove Amazon exclusive content - aka 'bloat'.
got excited, but sad to report it didn't work for me.
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i sent punit soni an email asking about the warranty policy on the pure edition.
"you guys are advertising unlockable bootloader on the 'pure edition'. a lot of us on the moto forums, and even more on droid life and android central are wanting to know if unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty.
motocare is giving us both yes and no answers depending on who we talk to. please get us some info on this soon. pre-orders start tomorrow and this is very important to a lot of early adopters. "
"We will honor warranty even if you unlock. Wait for official post on this."
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i sent punit soni an email asking about the warranty policy on the pure edition.
"you guys are advertising unlockable bootloader on the 'pure edition'. a lot of us on the moto forums, and even more on droid life and android central are wanting to know if unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty.
motocare is giving us both yes and no answers depending on who we talk to. please get us some info on this soon. pre-orders start tomorrow and this is very important to a lot of early adopters. "
"We will honor warranty even if you unlock. Wait for official post on this."
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Man, this is great news! Moto is doing good things. But the battery of the phone got me concerned. After reading about this though, I think I can look past the battery. This surely helps us hackers
Great news! So it means its fine to root on the first day (if rooting method is available) ?
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Great news! So it means its fine to root on the first day (if rooting method is available) ?
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i got my last x in sept of last year. so it has been a year since i have been rooted. i cannot wait.
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Great news! So it means its fine to root on the first day (if rooting method is available) ?
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for SuperSU, can't we download it from the Play Store and it can install or something? I need root. I need xposed and the Nlpwakelock module that can reduce the amount of wakelocks from Play Services, which can help the battery of this phone :good:
I mean to say was will we still get the latest firmware upgrade even when the phone is rooted ? f so then thats wonderful.
Jack Sparrow xda said:
I mean to say was will we still get the latest firmware upgrade even when the phone is rooted ? f so then thats wonderful.
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I assume if all you do is root the stock ROM, you can just unroot (completely remove SuperSU) and you'll be able to get the firmware upgrades again. if there is one single change in the /system, then firmware upgrades do not work. but by restoring it to how it's suppose to be, then the update will see no files changed and continue with the upgrade. that's how it worked with the Nexus phones, and the Moto X Pure Edition is essentially a Nexus phone with tweaks
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I assume if all you do is root the stock ROM, you can just unroot (completely remove SuperSU) and you'll be able to get the firmware upgrades again. if there is one single change in the /system, then firmware upgrades do not work. but by restoring it to how it's suppose to be, then the update will see no files changed and continue with the upgrade. that's how it worked with the Nexus phones, and the Moto X Pure Edition is essentially a Nexus phone with tweaks
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Is root already available?
I don't believe it until I read it in the fine print. I don't plan to unlock root my Moto G or X, but if I go to the bootloader unlock page it have to not mention anything about voiding your warranty in the process.
eksasol said:
I don't believe it until I read it in the fine print. I don't plan to unlock root my Moto G or X, but if I go to the bootloader unlock page it have to not mention anything about voiding your warranty in the process.
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the moto support forums manager confirmed my confirm.
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/677736c888?page=2
Excellent! I was a little concerned price wise that we'd be looking at another $100 tacked on to the $499 to get a 'Developer Edition' with an unlockable bootloader and warranty.
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theideaweb said:
Excellent! I was a little concerned price wise that we'd be looking at another $100 tacked on to the $499 to get a 'Developer Edition' with an unlockable bootloader and warranty.
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me too. and add on to that no option to customize.
So I was poking around on the Moto site because I'm about to unlock my bootloader. Motorola seems to have the Pure Edition listed as a dev edition, at least according to the page where you can download the factory images.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
So this is for pure edition only, not the phone one might buy in a store,like myself?
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So this is for pure edition only, not the phone one might buy in a store,like myself?
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Sorry, only pure edition. XT1095.
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just find some information about a lolipop upgrade for motorola droid ultra/mini/maxx from motorola upgrades pages :crying: :crying:
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just find some information about a lolipop upgrade for motorola droid ultra/mini/maxx from motorola upgrades pages :crying: :crying:
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https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/110262
The link for more details is dead however...
BackCheck said:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/110262
The link for more details is dead however...
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thanks,..i forgot for a link :good:
this attachment is what i've got from motorola forums about a dead links
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/19343d1335?page=24
Sad news, they should offer owners the option to unlock their bootloader so they can upgrade to Lollipop themselves.
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sign a petition, give us the BL UNLOCK CODE, we don't need a cashback
un1ocked said:
sign a petition, give us the BL UNLOCK CODE, we don't need a cashback
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Yay,give me a link petition,.i will sign it,i' ll support it..
I found a link
https://www.change.org/p/verizon-dr...source=share_for_starters&utm_medium=copyLink
Let' s go
I signed it I'm number 97 of 100 but don't think it will do any good because the petitions don't seen to ever work out will for any of us.
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I signed it I'm number 97 of 100 but don't think it will do any good because the petitions don't seen to ever work out will for any of us.
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At least we' re doing something,no matter what' s a result.
Verizon isn't going to let Motorola bl unlock these phones until they stop selling them like the X
But there is a new unlock exploit coming very soon that *will* work on the 8960/pro, so most of us will at least get 5.1 via cyanogenmod, it should breathe new life into these devices for at least the rest of 2016, maybe longer.
Maybe there is a chance to even get 6 via cyanogenmod eventually if the drivers can be ported from 5.1 ? Or is that an unrealistic expectation?
Let's hope this new 8960/ pro exploit is real for the sake of those who have not had the pleasure of running LP and MM on their machines. My MAXX and OG Moto X have been on LP for over a year now and it ran much better than KK other than the cell standby bug. I just flashed CM13 on this phone and it is even better. Testing out doze now, seems to be pretty good on the battery. This is a great phone, if it is bootloader unlocked!
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.... selling them like the X But there is a new unlock exploit coming very soon that *will* work on the 8960/pro, so most....
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blasphemy !! rofl
teerout said:
blasphemy !! rofl
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sorry that went over my head? blasphemy? why?
@beaups
What has a higher probability of happening?
WP = 0 or
Bootloader Unlock
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@beaups
What has a higher probability of happening?
WP = 0 or
Bootloader Unlock
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Same.
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Same.
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What version Android are these devices running. Are you able to get (temp) root?
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beaups said:
What version Android are these devices running. Are you able to get (temp) root?
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root exists on the (verizon) mini/maxx/ultra (same phone internals) because of work done by crashxxl to bypass the bootloader and write over the rom via qload driver mode - basically he writes the changes needed for root and SU
I believe he figured it out by studying the developer edition of the device which is bl unlocked
it works quite well, we have root and xposed but wp=1 of course
laginimaineb's next announcement will open the device for everyone but I don't think he is releasing a proof of concept, at least not for this phone model, so if you are willing, we could probably really use your help when that happens
I'd be happy to send you a mini (to keep) if that will help motivate you
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root exists on the (verizon) mini/maxx/ultra (same phone internals) because of work done by crashxxl to bypass the bootloader and write over the rom via qload driver mode - basically he writes the changes needed for root and SU
I believe he figured it out by studying the developer edition of the device which is bl unlocked
it works quite well, we have root and xposed but wp=1 of course
laginimaineb's next announcement will open the device for everyone but I don't think he is releasing a proof of concept, at least not for this phone model, so if you are willing, we could probably really use your help when that happens
I'd be happy to send you a mini (to keep) if that will help motivate you
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What version Android are most people running?
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What version Android are most people running?
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it's kitkat 4.4.4 - the only option right now unless you have a developer model or paid for sunshine so you can use cyanogenmod, etc.
SU6-7 rom was built December 2014 (sunshine cannot unlock this one)
SU4.21 rom was built June 2014 - sunshine CAN unlock this version but if anyone has accepted the OTA, it's too late because now the phone is SU6-7.3 and fuse blown
I can send you either SU4 or SU6 to play with
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it's kitkat 4.4.4 - the only option right now unless you have a developer model or paid for sunshine so you can use cyanogenmod, etc.
SU6-7 rom was built December 2014 (sunshine cannot unlock this one)
SU4.21 rom was built June 2014 - sunshine CAN unlock this version but if anyone has accepted the OTA, it's too late because now the phone is SU6-7.3
I can send you either SU4 or SU6 to play with
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So sunshine is available for these models and people skipped it? Or on too new of firmware to use it?
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So sunshine is available for these models and people skipped it? Or on too new of firmware to use it?
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SU4 hasn't been available for a year now, maybe longer and you cannot downgrade these phones
verizon now ships all of them with SU6, so no sunshine, and verizon refuses to let motorola unlock the bootloader like they did with the X
Any developers interested in creating a root for the Moto G4 Play? Especially the Verizon variant due to the fact it seems that the bootloader can't be unlocked?
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Any developers interested in creating a root for the Moto G4 Play? Especially the Verizon variant due to the fact it seems that the bootloader can't be unlocked?
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Have not found a bootloader unlock for the Amazon version either.
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Have not found a bootloader unlock for the Amazon version either.
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There won't be one. They're considering it the same as the moto g4 Amazon prime exclusive version and neither Amazon nor moto will be releasing a bootloader unlock for the 1607.
As for the 1609, though, you could call their support line and request a bootloader unlock code, since the chart says nothing about the Verizon variant, so it's assumed that it counts as any other non-plus 4th generation moto g.
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There won't be one. They're considering it the same as the moto g4 Amazon prime exclusive version and neither Amazon nor moto will be releasing a bootloader unlock for the 1607.
As for the 1609, though, you could call their support line and request a bootloader unlock code, since the chart says nothing about the Verizon variant, so it's assumed that it counts as any other non-plus 4th generation moto g.
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Yea I tried calling moto but they were not helpful and said they did not help with bootloader unlocks. Which is just absurd. I'm really at a loss cause I've tried everything available but I can't get the 1609 rooted or bootloader unlocked.:crying:
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Yea I tried calling moto but they were not helpful and said they did not help with bootloader unlocks. Which is just absurd. I'm really at a loss cause I've tried everything available but I can't get the 1609 rooted or bootloader unlocked.:crying:
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Yep, I went the same route too and thought I was getting somewhere. After 5 or 6 emails with support, they told me to call and ask for a bootloader unlock. I thought that meant it was going to happen, when really it was just them passing the buck and letting the phone support people tell me no.
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Yep, I went the same route too and thought I was getting somewhere. After 5 or 6 emails with support, they told me to call and ask for a bootloader unlock. I thought that meant it was going to happen, when really it was just them passing the buck and letting the phone support people tell me no.
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May need the help of a some one experienced in cracking bootloader's and or rooting. I'll keep digging for a root solution and as soon as I get success I'll post here. If anyone else can help in the search or actually crack the code (as I like to say) and post it here, that would be great.
si se puede desbloquear todo yo lo hice mandado el correo a motorola mediante cmd
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Any developers interested in creating a root for the Moto G4 Play? Especially the Verizon variant due to the fact it seems that the bootloader can't be unlocked?
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if you can unlock all I did it sent by mail to motorola cmd
Does sunshine work for the the verizon version of thr g4 play?
I did the big update today for the newest software patch available for the Motorla G4.
My ads are back unfortunately.
Does anyone know if there's a tutorial to remove the ads for the latest version of the software update?
Thanks!!
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I did the big update today for the newest software patch available for the Motorla G4.
My ads are back unfortunately.
Does anyone know if there's a tutorial to remove the ads for the latest version of the software update?
Thanks!!
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I don't recall anyone getting an Amazon update. Sadly you did answer a question I'm sure all the Amazon G4 owners had.
I have the same experience - can we use the same process as before, or use the just posted factory image?
Was you rooted with unlocked bootloader? It just appeared for me as well. I want to update but don't want to relock bootloader but I do still have the original code from moto to unlock it I think.
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Was you rooted with unlocked bootloader? It just appeared for me as well. I want to update but don't want to relock bootloader but I do still have the original code from moto to unlock it I think.
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If you're rooted you can't install an OTA but it doesn't matter if you're unlocked. Once you've used the unlock code from MOTO you're always unlocked and won't have to enter it again. If for some way they've managed to relock it on the Amazon ad phones then I would imagine they've also blocked it from a future unlock. In the past though once unlocked the bootloader is always unlocked.
I'm not locked to any specific carrier as far as I know.. purchased this off of Amazon for $125.. USA version.
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I'm not locked to any specific carrier as far as I know.. purchased this off of Amazon for $125.. USA version.
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I was talking about an unlocked bootloader.
Tel864 said:
I was talking about an unlocked bootloader.
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gotcha, unfortunately these ones you can't unlock
You are more likely to find help in the Moto G4 section. This is Moto G4 plus, of which there is no Amazon variant.
Question: Can I root the Moto G5 Plus Amazon Edition?
Answer: The Moto G5 Plus Amazon Edition is rootable via initroot so long as you have not updated the firmware. Development of initroot for various phones is happening in the Moto G4 Play forums.Here is the thread for the research and scripts for initroot: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3639316
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Question: Can I root the Moto G5 Plus Amazon Edition?
Answer: The Moto G5 Plus Amazon Edition is rootable via initroot so long as you have not updated the firmware. Development of initroot for various phones is happening in the Moto G4 Play forums.Here is the thread for the research and scripts for initroot: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3639316
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Are you sure about that? I only ask because I read through a lot of that thread and nowhere in there did I get the impression that this worked for the G5 Plus Amazon. In fact, it seemed like they specifically said it didn't work.
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Are you sure about that? I only ask because I read through a lot of that thread and nowhere in there did I get the impression that this worked for the G5 Plus Amazon. In fact, it seemed like they specifically said it didn't work.
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A bump here... I have the same question. Have things changed since November?
Bump again... Just wondering where this device stands as my mom needs a new device and I was looking at getting this one as none of the new / current Moto devices from Verizon have root methods... She uses the unlimited hotspot on her old droid turbo at the moment...
Bump..I would surely like to know also...
The answer is the same... No, it cannot be rooted EXCEPT if you happen to have an old one that was never updated, so December 2016 (?) security patch... I don't remember the exact date but it was late 2016 or really early 2017, then it was rootable by initroot.
Any update after that, or one that shipped after about May 2017, does not have an old enough version to root with initroot.
The bootloader is still not, and never will be, unlockable... Even if you purchased the ad removal, or later got your ads removed for free, this will not change.
I have unlocked the bootloader and successfully rooted this phone and am currently running ViperOS.
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I have unlocked the bootloader and successfully rooted this phone and am currently running ViperOS.
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That's what I heard too. Since a few days the Amazon edition is unlockable via the Motorola website and after that you root it as any Moto G5+.
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I still cannot get an unlock code for mine.
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I still cannot get an unlock code for mine.
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It seems to be only a short while when it was possible to unlock amz locked devices. I think it was some kind of glitch because the server was down for maintenance after that.
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It seems to be only a short while when it was possible to unlock amz locked devices. I think it was some kind of glitch because the server was down for maintenance after that.
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Just got this phone today and didn't realize the model, cannot get unlock code, so they still have them locked down? I'm gonna hate going through a return and wait process again.
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Just got this phone today and didn't realize the model, cannot get unlock code, so they still have them locked down? I'm gonna hate going through a return and wait process again.
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If you've got the Amazon edition with ads there's no way to unlock and root the device.
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