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[Q] Unlocked bootloader on Razr M?

Has anyone unlocked the bootloader on their Razr M retail version yet? It's been mentioned on some other forums that you can get the unlock code from Motorola website. This should then allow a recovery to be installed onto the phone.
So has anyone attempted it yet?

Not going to happen on retail non developer edition. /thread.
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No, he's an Aussie , our RAzr Ms are unlockable.
My Australian Telstra branded Razr M spat out an unlock code via the motorola unlock website just like the dev edition phones do. It says right on that website if your phone is ineligible you will receive an error. And I got the code, not the error.
Ausdroid also says explicitly they have confirmation Aussie Razr M is unlockable via moto website.
PJcons, I notice the same discussion on whirlpool, seriously if you don't believe this answer then go and try it yourself, no point asking repeatedly esp as you are confusing people here who have the US CDMA verizon version not the aussie GSM/LTE1800 Telstra version. Also, there is already an existing thread (me lol) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1964862
However re: actually unlocking, I can't confirm the last step i.e. actually doing it. The only reason I haven't actually gone ahead is because there is actually no point at this stage as we don't have access to any remotely mature custom ROMs, and the only CWM floating around is not confirmed working on our variant (though as long as it doesn't touch the radio, theoretically it should). But I'm reluctant to do anything without having a stock Telstra fastboot image as a last resort roll-back option, years and years of flashing droids has taught me that if nothing else. Theoretically though I do not see how it could possibly fail if you have the token.

wintermute000 said:
No, he's an Aussie , our RAzr Ms are unlockable.
My Australian Telstra branded Razr M spat out an unlock code via the motorola unlock website just like the dev edition phones do. It says right on that website if your phone is ineligible you will receive an error. And I got the code, not the error.
Ausdroid also says explicitly they have confirmation Aussie Razr M is unlockable via moto website.
PJcons, I notice the same discussion on whirlpool, seriously if you don't believe this answer then go and try it yourself, no point asking repeatedly esp as you are confusing people here who have the US CDMA verizon version not the aussie GSM/LTE1800 Telstra version
The only reason I haven't actuall gone ahead and unlocked is becuase there is actually no point at this stage as we don't have access to any remotely mature custom ROMs, and the only CWM floating around is not confirmed working on our variant (though as long as it doesn't touch the radio, theoretically it should).
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Ahh crap my bad. Just having flashbacks of the old razr days of people asking if the BL will get or can get unlocked. Carry on. :good:

Aussie retail Razr M unlocked. Confirmed.

Now does any one know what makes the AU different from the US to allow Unlock ?

Germanese said:
Now does any one know what makes the AU different from the US to allow Unlock ?
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I think they're all dev editions
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Germanese said:
Now does any one know what makes the AU different from the US to allow Unlock ?
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AU isn't on Verizon...
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FacePalm.
Yes we know AU is on Telstra ...
But what are the changes that causes the lock down.
Is it a Physical chip that has been changed or is it a 128Bit encryption that stops ppl from Unlocking the Verizon version ?

Pretty sure it's encryption... I remember seeing an article on how it was done, but no idea where...
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I think I read somewhere that Motorola uses 256bit encryption, but I could have dreamed that for all I know.
Either way, it's going to be tough to crack.

question on bootloader
I restored my firmware using Matt's Utility 1.20 back to 4.1.2 ( previously rooted, bl unlocked, running a rom) , however I cant unlock the bootloader anymore (the M logo shows up even after reboot) even after using the Motopocolypse from drjbliss. Is there anyway to fix this?

pwucky23 said:
I restored my firmware using Matt's Utility 1.20 back to 4.1.2 ( previously rooted, bl unlocked, running a rom) , however I cant unlock the bootloader anymore (the M logo shows up even after reboot) even after using the Motopocolypse from drjbliss. Is there anyway to fix this?
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You're still unlocked. Try going into bootloader mode - you should still be status 3 unlocked
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sloosecannon said:
You're still unlocked. Try going into bootloader mode - you should still be status 3 unlocked
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It says that, but I cant flash any roms from CWM? I used root checker and it says I have root, but the SU doesnt seem to be working?

pwucky23 said:
It says that, but I cant flash any roms from CWM? I used root checker and it says I have root, but the SU doesnt seem to be working?
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Cwm probably got uninstalled when you flashed stock. Just reflash it and it should work
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sloosecannon said:
Cwm probably got uninstalled when you flashed stock. Just reflash it and it should work
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I reflashed CWM but it didnt do anything? When I install a rom it says that it installed fine but when i boot it up, it just boots with the moto logo and boots into stock

wintermute000 said:
No, he's an Aussie , our RAzr Ms are unlockable.
My Australian Telstra branded Razr M spat out an unlock code via the motorola unlock website just like the dev edition phones do. It says right on that website if your phone is ineligible you will receive an error. And I got the code, not the error.
Ausdroid also says explicitly they have confirmation Aussie Razr M is unlockable via moto website.
PJcons, I notice the same discussion on whirlpool, seriously if you don't believe this answer then go and try it yourself, no point asking repeatedly esp as you are confusing people here who have the US CDMA verizon version not the aussie GSM/LTE1800 Telstra version. Also, there is already an existing thread (me lol) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1964862
However re: actually unlocking, I can't confirm the last step i.e. actually doing it. The only reason I haven't actually gone ahead is because there is actually no point at this stage as we don't have access to any remotely mature custom ROMs, and the only CWM floating around is not confirmed working on our variant (though as long as it doesn't touch the radio, theoretically it should). But I'm reluctant to do anything without having a stock Telstra fastboot image as a last resort roll-back option, years and years of flashing droids has taught me that if nothing else. Theoretically though I do not see how it could possibly fail if you have the token.
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I there are telstra xmls & xt905 twrp backups in the dev forum

Developer vs Normal

Haven't spent much time researching but time is short before Monday' sale/
Why would I want the developer edition over a standard designed phone. I'm just not quite understanding what the advantage of the developer version is. I do want to root if that's a factor.
Thanks.

homemadehitshow said:
Haven't spent much time researching but time is short before Monday' sale/
Why would I want the developer edition over a standard designed phone. I'm just not quite understanding what the advantage of the developer version is. I do want to root if that's a factor.
Thanks.
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Two things:
1. You get to keep your warranty if you unlock the bootloader
2. You don't have to worry about root exploits for FUTURE OTA releases; current software already has root.
Other than that, they are identical devices except that you can customize the regular version.

chaoslimits said:
Two things:
1. You get to keep your warranty if you unlock the bootloader
2. You don't have to worry about root exploits for FUTURE OTA releases; current software already has root.
Other than that, they are identical devices except that you can customize the regular version.
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Developer edition has root by default out of the box?

d14gvn said:
Developer edition has root by default out of the box?
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No you don't have root out of the box. With developer edition, you can unlock the bootloader, flash a new recovery, and install su (root) using fastboot. You can do it at any time.
For the regular version, you need to root using Jcase's exploit (in the Development forum) which is also relatively easy to do.

chaoslimits said:
No you don't have root out of the box. With developer edition, you can unlock the bootloader, flash a new recovery, and install su (root) using fastboot. You can do it at any time.
For the regular version, you need to root using Jcase's exploit (in the Development forum) which is also relatively easy to do.
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But with regular version you can flash TWRP recovery too and get SU with that, I see no difference in there.
I think the difference is in when you unlock your bootloader, developer edition doesn't lost its warranty

d14gvn said:
But with regular version you can flash TWRP recovery too and get SU with that, I see no difference in there.
I think the difference is in when you unlock your bootloader, developer edition doesn't lost its warranty
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For now yes. If we get another OTA and no one makes a root exploit, the regular version may be stuck without root. If you care that much about having root, the dev edition is most likely the better choice. If you're not too worried about not having root in future OTAs (who knows if we'll actually get another major OS bump) the I guess the custom versions are going to be more interesting to you.

chaoslimits said:
For now yes. If we get another OTA and no one makes a root exploit, the regular version may be stuck without root. If you care that much about having root, the dev edition is most likely the better choice. If you're not too worried about not having root in future OTAs (who knows if we'll actually get another major OS bump) the I guess the custom versions are going to be more interesting to you.
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Thank you for that information. :good:

Dev edition is also more "figure proof" whereas after motorola stop supporting the phone you can still get android updayes so long as there are devs building them.

Thanks for the info guys. I'm really considering upgrading from my Nexus 4. I would have preferred a different color but I think I'd go with the developer edition. I'm getting ready to go through the forums but how do you guys feel the developer support is compared to the Nexus 4? I use CWM recovery and like CM and AOSPA a lot. Does performance take a hit on custom ROMs compared to stock which is from my understanding highly optimized?
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homemadehitshow said:
Haven't spent much time researching but time is short before Monday' sale/
Why would I want the developer edition over a standard designed phone. I'm just not quite understanding what the advantage of the developer version is. I do want to root if that's a factor.
Thanks.
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If you don't know why you need the developer edition, then you don't need the developer edition.
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Can anyone speak to the LTE bands for ATT on DE? It looks like it has 17 covered but ATT can also use 4(?) and I think Wikipedia says 29 in the future. I'd hate to get it and stop getting LTE in areas I'm getting it in now.

1ManWolfePack said:
If you don't know why you need the developer edition, then you don't need the developer edition.
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Says the guy with the Tapatalk sig.

homemadehitshow said:
Says the guy with the Tapatalk sig.
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Lol.
I do use tapatalk. And I don't put an obnoxious signature. I leave it default.
That was a HARD DISS YO
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1ManWolfePack said:
Lol.
I do use tapatalk. And I don't put an obnoxious signature. I leave it default.
That was a HARD DISS YO
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I agree pretty harsh.....
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mcsqwizzys98 said:
I agree pretty harsh.....
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He just ripped on 87% of this community and doesn't even know it. Lol.
Anyways, for $400 - get the Dev. A true custom recovery and no root exploits needed.
SENT FROM MY TAPPED OUT CYAN PURPLE BUBBLE GUM TRANSPARENT WITH A CUSTOM KERNEL AND A CUSTOM ROM THAT I PAID FOR WITH MY OWN MONEY MOTOROLA MOBILITY MOTO X WITH SILVER HIGHLIGHTS AND NAVY BACK ON THE BIG RED NETWORK KNOWN AS VZW SENT FROM YOUR AUNTS HOUSE GO OBAMA
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Oh I know it.
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[CONFIRMED] Moto will honor warranty after unlock

i sent punit soni an email asking about the warranty policy on the pure edition.
"you guys are advertising unlockable bootloader on the 'pure edition'. a lot of us on the moto forums, and even more on droid life and android central are wanting to know if unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty.
motocare is giving us both yes and no answers depending on who we talk to. please get us some info on this soon. pre-orders start tomorrow and this is very important to a lot of early adopters. "
"We will honor warranty even if you unlock. Wait for official post on this."

phermey said:
i sent punit soni an email asking about the warranty policy on the pure edition.
"you guys are advertising unlockable bootloader on the 'pure edition'. a lot of us on the moto forums, and even more on droid life and android central are wanting to know if unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty.
motocare is giving us both yes and no answers depending on who we talk to. please get us some info on this soon. pre-orders start tomorrow and this is very important to a lot of early adopters. "
"We will honor warranty even if you unlock. Wait for official post on this."
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Man, this is great news! Moto is doing good things. But the battery of the phone got me concerned. After reading about this though, I think I can look past the battery. This surely helps us hackers

Great news! So it means its fine to root on the first day (if rooting method is available) ?

Jack Sparrow xda said:
Great news! So it means its fine to root on the first day (if rooting method is available) ?
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i got my last x in sept of last year. so it has been a year since i have been rooted. i cannot wait.

Jack Sparrow xda said:
Great news! So it means its fine to root on the first day (if rooting method is available) ?
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for SuperSU, can't we download it from the Play Store and it can install or something? I need root. I need xposed and the Nlpwakelock module that can reduce the amount of wakelocks from Play Services, which can help the battery of this phone :good:

I mean to say was will we still get the latest firmware upgrade even when the phone is rooted ? f so then thats wonderful.

Jack Sparrow xda said:
I mean to say was will we still get the latest firmware upgrade even when the phone is rooted ? f so then thats wonderful.
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I assume if all you do is root the stock ROM, you can just unroot (completely remove SuperSU) and you'll be able to get the firmware upgrades again. if there is one single change in the /system, then firmware upgrades do not work. but by restoring it to how it's suppose to be, then the update will see no files changed and continue with the upgrade. that's how it worked with the Nexus phones, and the Moto X Pure Edition is essentially a Nexus phone with tweaks

0.0 said:
I assume if all you do is root the stock ROM, you can just unroot (completely remove SuperSU) and you'll be able to get the firmware upgrades again. if there is one single change in the /system, then firmware upgrades do not work. but by restoring it to how it's suppose to be, then the update will see no files changed and continue with the upgrade. that's how it worked with the Nexus phones, and the Moto X Pure Edition is essentially a Nexus phone with tweaks
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Is root already available?

I don't believe it until I read it in the fine print. I don't plan to unlock root my Moto G or X, but if I go to the bootloader unlock page it have to not mention anything about voiding your warranty in the process.

eksasol said:
I don't believe it until I read it in the fine print. I don't plan to unlock root my Moto G or X, but if I go to the bootloader unlock page it have to not mention anything about voiding your warranty in the process.
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the moto support forums manager confirmed my confirm.
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/677736c888?page=2

Excellent! I was a little concerned price wise that we'd be looking at another $100 tacked on to the $499 to get a 'Developer Edition' with an unlockable bootloader and warranty.
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theideaweb said:
Excellent! I was a little concerned price wise that we'd be looking at another $100 tacked on to the $499 to get a 'Developer Edition' with an unlockable bootloader and warranty.
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me too. and add on to that no option to customize.

So I was poking around on the Moto site because I'm about to unlock my bootloader. Motorola seems to have the Pure Edition listed as a dev edition, at least according to the page where you can download the factory images.
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images

So this is for pure edition only, not the phone one might buy in a store,like myself?

Xdevillived666 said:
So this is for pure edition only, not the phone one might buy in a store,like myself?
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Sorry, only pure edition. XT1095.
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How Long To Wait Until Unlocking The Bootloader?

I am expecting my Pure tomorrow. Normally the first thing I do is unlock the bootloader then root. After reading about the speaker issue, I am hesitant to do that.
Is there a good test for the speaker to see if the problem exists? Anyone return a phone with a bad speaker and an unlocked bootloader? Does it make a difference if I have or don't have the extended warranty?
Thanks!
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If it is a hardware problem they will still replace it.

Just unlock it when you get it. Motorola despite the official stance they have posted generally doesn't care if you unlock the bootloader. Your best off doing it right away as doing it wipes all the data off the phone.

blackhand1001 said:
Just unlock it when you get it. Motorola despite the official stance they have posted generally doesn't care if you unlock the bootloader. Your best off doing it right away as doing it wipes all the data off the phone.
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they post it officially but yet dont follow what they say, according to you? so if I or him unlock the bootloader and need warranty, and moto say no warranty, then what?

Thanks everyone. I unlocked and rooted immediately. No issues yet.
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Atta boy.
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news from motorola website about lolipop update

just find some information about a lolipop upgrade for motorola droid ultra/mini/maxx from motorola upgrades pages :crying: :crying:

mt021322 said:
just find some information about a lolipop upgrade for motorola droid ultra/mini/maxx from motorola upgrades pages :crying: :crying:
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https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/110262
The link for more details is dead however...

BackCheck said:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/110262
The link for more details is dead however...
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thanks,..i forgot for a link :good:
this attachment is what i've got from motorola forums about a dead links
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/19343d1335?page=24

Sad news, they should offer owners the option to unlock their bootloader so they can upgrade to Lollipop themselves.
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sign a petition, give us the BL UNLOCK CODE, we don't need a cashback

un1ocked said:
sign a petition, give us the BL UNLOCK CODE, we don't need a cashback
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Yay,give me a link petition,.i will sign it,i' ll support it..
I found a link
https://www.change.org/p/verizon-dr...source=share_for_starters&utm_medium=copyLink
Let' s go

I signed it I'm number 97 of 100 but don't think it will do any good because the petitions don't seen to ever work out will for any of us.

leerpsp said:
I signed it I'm number 97 of 100 but don't think it will do any good because the petitions don't seen to ever work out will for any of us.
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At least we' re doing something,no matter what' s a result.

Verizon isn't going to let Motorola bl unlock these phones until they stop selling them like the X
But there is a new unlock exploit coming very soon that *will* work on the 8960/pro, so most of us will at least get 5.1 via cyanogenmod, it should breathe new life into these devices for at least the rest of 2016, maybe longer.
Maybe there is a chance to even get 6 via cyanogenmod eventually if the drivers can be ported from 5.1 ? Or is that an unrealistic expectation?

Let's hope this new 8960/ pro exploit is real for the sake of those who have not had the pleasure of running LP and MM on their machines. My MAXX and OG Moto X have been on LP for over a year now and it ran much better than KK other than the cell standby bug. I just flashed CM13 on this phone and it is even better. Testing out doze now, seems to be pretty good on the battery. This is a great phone, if it is bootloader unlocked!
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_ck_ said:
.... selling them like the X But there is a new unlock exploit coming very soon that *will* work on the 8960/pro, so most....
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blasphemy !! rofl

teerout said:
blasphemy !! rofl
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sorry that went over my head? blasphemy? why?

@beaups
What has a higher probability of happening?
WP = 0 or
Bootloader Unlock

JH1108 said:
@beaups
What has a higher probability of happening?
WP = 0 or
Bootloader Unlock
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Same.
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beaups said:
Same.
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What version Android are these devices running. Are you able to get (temp) root?
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beaups said:
What version Android are these devices running. Are you able to get (temp) root?
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root exists on the (verizon) mini/maxx/ultra (same phone internals) because of work done by crashxxl to bypass the bootloader and write over the rom via qload driver mode - basically he writes the changes needed for root and SU
I believe he figured it out by studying the developer edition of the device which is bl unlocked
it works quite well, we have root and xposed but wp=1 of course
laginimaineb's next announcement will open the device for everyone but I don't think he is releasing a proof of concept, at least not for this phone model, so if you are willing, we could probably really use your help when that happens
I'd be happy to send you a mini (to keep) if that will help motivate you

_ck_ said:
root exists on the (verizon) mini/maxx/ultra (same phone internals) because of work done by crashxxl to bypass the bootloader and write over the rom via qload driver mode - basically he writes the changes needed for root and SU
I believe he figured it out by studying the developer edition of the device which is bl unlocked
it works quite well, we have root and xposed but wp=1 of course
laginimaineb's next announcement will open the device for everyone but I don't think he is releasing a proof of concept, at least not for this phone model, so if you are willing, we could probably really use your help when that happens
I'd be happy to send you a mini (to keep) if that will help motivate you
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What version Android are most people running?
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beaups said:
What version Android are most people running?
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it's kitkat 4.4.4 - the only option right now unless you have a developer model or paid for sunshine so you can use cyanogenmod, etc.
SU6-7 rom was built December 2014 (sunshine cannot unlock this one)
SU4.21 rom was built June 2014 - sunshine CAN unlock this version but if anyone has accepted the OTA, it's too late because now the phone is SU6-7.3 and fuse blown
I can send you either SU4 or SU6 to play with

_ck_ said:
it's kitkat 4.4.4 - the only option right now unless you have a developer model or paid for sunshine so you can use cyanogenmod, etc.
SU6-7 rom was built December 2014 (sunshine cannot unlock this one)
SU4.21 rom was built June 2014 - sunshine CAN unlock this version but if anyone has accepted the OTA, it's too late because now the phone is SU6-7.3
I can send you either SU4 or SU6 to play with
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So sunshine is available for these models and people skipped it? Or on too new of firmware to use it?
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beaups said:
So sunshine is available for these models and people skipped it? Or on too new of firmware to use it?
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SU4 hasn't been available for a year now, maybe longer and you cannot downgrade these phones
verizon now ships all of them with SU6, so no sunshine, and verizon refuses to let motorola unlock the bootloader like they did with the X