Haven't spent much time researching but time is short before Monday' sale/
Why would I want the developer edition over a standard designed phone. I'm just not quite understanding what the advantage of the developer version is. I do want to root if that's a factor.
Thanks.
homemadehitshow said:
Haven't spent much time researching but time is short before Monday' sale/
Why would I want the developer edition over a standard designed phone. I'm just not quite understanding what the advantage of the developer version is. I do want to root if that's a factor.
Thanks.
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Two things:
1. You get to keep your warranty if you unlock the bootloader
2. You don't have to worry about root exploits for FUTURE OTA releases; current software already has root.
Other than that, they are identical devices except that you can customize the regular version.
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Two things:
1. You get to keep your warranty if you unlock the bootloader
2. You don't have to worry about root exploits for FUTURE OTA releases; current software already has root.
Other than that, they are identical devices except that you can customize the regular version.
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Developer edition has root by default out of the box?
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Developer edition has root by default out of the box?
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No you don't have root out of the box. With developer edition, you can unlock the bootloader, flash a new recovery, and install su (root) using fastboot. You can do it at any time.
For the regular version, you need to root using Jcase's exploit (in the Development forum) which is also relatively easy to do.
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No you don't have root out of the box. With developer edition, you can unlock the bootloader, flash a new recovery, and install su (root) using fastboot. You can do it at any time.
For the regular version, you need to root using Jcase's exploit (in the Development forum) which is also relatively easy to do.
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But with regular version you can flash TWRP recovery too and get SU with that, I see no difference in there.
I think the difference is in when you unlock your bootloader, developer edition doesn't lost its warranty
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But with regular version you can flash TWRP recovery too and get SU with that, I see no difference in there.
I think the difference is in when you unlock your bootloader, developer edition doesn't lost its warranty
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For now yes. If we get another OTA and no one makes a root exploit, the regular version may be stuck without root. If you care that much about having root, the dev edition is most likely the better choice. If you're not too worried about not having root in future OTAs (who knows if we'll actually get another major OS bump) the I guess the custom versions are going to be more interesting to you.
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For now yes. If we get another OTA and no one makes a root exploit, the regular version may be stuck without root. If you care that much about having root, the dev edition is most likely the better choice. If you're not too worried about not having root in future OTAs (who knows if we'll actually get another major OS bump) the I guess the custom versions are going to be more interesting to you.
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Thank you for that information. :good:
Dev edition is also more "figure proof" whereas after motorola stop supporting the phone you can still get android updayes so long as there are devs building them.
Thanks for the info guys. I'm really considering upgrading from my Nexus 4. I would have preferred a different color but I think I'd go with the developer edition. I'm getting ready to go through the forums but how do you guys feel the developer support is compared to the Nexus 4? I use CWM recovery and like CM and AOSPA a lot. Does performance take a hit on custom ROMs compared to stock which is from my understanding highly optimized?
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homemadehitshow said:
Haven't spent much time researching but time is short before Monday' sale/
Why would I want the developer edition over a standard designed phone. I'm just not quite understanding what the advantage of the developer version is. I do want to root if that's a factor.
Thanks.
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If you don't know why you need the developer edition, then you don't need the developer edition.
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Can anyone speak to the LTE bands for ATT on DE? It looks like it has 17 covered but ATT can also use 4(?) and I think Wikipedia says 29 in the future. I'd hate to get it and stop getting LTE in areas I'm getting it in now.
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If you don't know why you need the developer edition, then you don't need the developer edition.
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Says the guy with the Tapatalk sig.
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Says the guy with the Tapatalk sig.
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Lol.
I do use tapatalk. And I don't put an obnoxious signature. I leave it default.
That was a HARD DISS YO
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Lol.
I do use tapatalk. And I don't put an obnoxious signature. I leave it default.
That was a HARD DISS YO
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I agree pretty harsh.....
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I agree pretty harsh.....
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He just ripped on 87% of this community and doesn't even know it. Lol.
Anyways, for $400 - get the Dev. A true custom recovery and no root exploits needed.
SENT FROM MY TAPPED OUT CYAN PURPLE BUBBLE GUM TRANSPARENT WITH A CUSTOM KERNEL AND A CUSTOM ROM THAT I PAID FOR WITH MY OWN MONEY MOTOROLA MOBILITY MOTO X WITH SILVER HIGHLIGHTS AND NAVY BACK ON THE BIG RED NETWORK KNOWN AS VZW SENT FROM YOUR AUNTS HOUSE GO OBAMA
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Oh I know it.
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Related
Anyone know of any word on these two roms making a appearance here soon?
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There's like 8 of these threads already but long story short, no.
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akellar said:
There's like 8 of these threads already but long story short, no.
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Link me to the long story please
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Link me to the long story please
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Here's your long story short:
Until we get the bootloader unlocked, NONE of those ROMs will make it to this phone. Period.
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Here's your long story short:
Until we get the bootloader unlocked, NONE of those ROMs will make it to this phone. Period.
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Why do people keep saying this? I came from Droid Razr MAXX, locked bootloader. and officially supported by CM and AOKP.
If you dont believe me go here and select Razr Maxx and see. This is CM official download site. Not trying to argue, just sayin'. Dont be so sure we will not see that type of development.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/index.php?title=Devices#vendor=;
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Why do people keep saying this? I came from Droid Razr MAXX, locked bootloader. and officially supported by CM and AOKP.
If you dont believe me go here and select Razr Maxx and see. This is CM official download site. Not trying to argue, just sayin'. Dont be so sure we will not see that type of development.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/index.php?title=Devices#vendor=;
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Kind of what I thought, just going to try and wait patiently for more development
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Again, they all use kexec or loki and neither will work on this device. Please read the other threads about this. They are all the same.
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akellar said:
Again, they all use kexec or loki and neither will work on this device. Please read the other threads about this. They are all the same.
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This.
Safestrap (at least at the moment) doesn't support kexec or Loki for this device, which is the way those other devices manage to run custom kernels. Not saying its impossible, but likely improbable.
carlz28 said:
This.
Safestrap (at least at the moment) doesn't support kexec or Loki for this device, which is the way those other devices manage to run custom kernels. Not saying its impossible, but likely improbable.
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All i was saying, is that our device is way to new to be saying what it will or wont have development on in the future. Thats just my opinion.
i have an unlocked developer edition where is my cm/aosp then haha
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i have an unlocked developer edition where is my cm/aosp then haha
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Apparently there are a lot of problems getting it working on this device. If you will notice, none of the note 3's have it, not even the international. I think part of it is knox, part of it is the bootloader, part of it is the hardware on the device. Samsung went above and beyond to keep this phone running their system.
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Apparently there are a lot of problems getting it working on this device. If you will notice, none of the note 3's have it, not even the international. I think part of it is knox, part of it is the bootloader, part of it is the hardware on the device. Samsung went above and beyond to keep this phone running their system.
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i dont know what the issue could be. tmobile and dev editions are unlocked bootloaders and you dont have to run knox so idk unless knox is baked in somewhere where you cant get around it
oneandroidnut said:
i dont know what the issue could be. tmobile and dev editions are unlocked bootloaders and you dont have to run knox so idk unless knox is baked in somewhere where you cant get around it
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Unlocked does not equal aosp, at least functioning. Ril is likely an issue.
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Sbrissen said he'd make it happen if he were to obtain a device...... Dev Edition....
TechSavvy2 said:
Sbrissen said he'd make it happen if he were to obtain a device...... Dev Edition....
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i have a friends bricked note 3 he can get haha
Is there any way to root my phone.
The system version is 183.46.15.
If your boot loader is locked, no.
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Nope. Sorry. Both bootloader and root are patched.
RikRong said:
If your boot loader is locked, no.
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Is there any guru working on the root? thinking about selling the phone if no hope
everseen said:
Is there any guru working on the root? thinking about selling the phone if no hope
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Not gonna come as far as I can see from now. Just go ahead and sell it. Plenty of alternatives on the market.
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There are some RAZR M that are unlocked on Swappa as well.
tianor said:
Is there any way to root my phone.
The system version is 183.46.15.
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Did u get unlocked, i am also stricken with it
Love Cyaan said:
Did u get unlocked, i am also stricken with it
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No luck yet.
root and unlock 183.46.15
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No luck yet.
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Me too, me too!
Googleing this search daily " unlock 183.46.15 site:forum[.]xda-developers[.]com"
Checked ever corner of XDA, alas no solution on how to root and unlock 183.46.15
Devs @ XDA, come on champs gave us something, so can we also enjoy the privilege of CM12. Many are waiting for it fingers crossed
Mods/all, its only a humble request to Dev & not that if being annoyed.
Qualcomm patched the second layer (sbl2) of the second-stage bootloader, to take care of possible exploitation, effectively making it impenetrable. So for some individuals, we're pretty much out of luck. I wouldn't be sure of the possible exploits (the problem is, after that patch, it makes it even harder, although not impossible). Previous Kit Kat rooting exploitation relies on the permission requestion layer (futex) of the Linux kernel, as discovered by the former PS3 hacker, GeoHot, while it's patched by now. It's possible there is already a new rooting exploit by now, just don't hold the breath.
It's possible there is already a new rooting exploit by now, just don't hold the breath.
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Can you please be more concretely?
I may not be up to date, been out of town for a bit, and figuring out a way to unbrick a few RAZR Ms.
However, the reason I said not to hold the breath is because of Verizon demanding a hard fix for rooting so that way almost any root exploits simply fail on arrival. This phone company also WANTS locked BIOS so no one can install custom recovery and OS "just because it put customer services in jeopardy".
That's really bad, can't believe that there is no chance to root or bootunlock this device.
By the way, do you know any way to disable/delete/freeze modem fast dormancy service without rooting phone? Or to made some changes in build.prop file?
Simply force close Modem fastdormancy first then disable it in app manager, it will then quit. And, editing build.prop requires root (write protection).
Force close works but disable button is inactive.
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Ah, right.... I wonder why Verizon would disable some app manager features.
I'm outside of us, my carrier operates in gsm network and does not support fast dormancy, therefore phone reboots and can't wake up on power button when using h+. Thats why I need to edit build.prop and to dothis I need root access to file system.
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Makes sense. However, I may look for new exploit, but since Futex is removed, it is not so simple.
Dr. Mario, are you developer?
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Not officially, yet. But I know how the software works underneath the pretty UI, even down to the machine codes. I have been modding Android for 3 years.
Hi, the G4 root was made available today and without asking for ETAs (I know ya'll hate that), I'm curious as to how many ROMs and Kernels you think will be made available for it over time? Do you think that there will be as many available as there were for the G3? I do understand that these things take time and a lot of hard work, and I'll be patient, but I'm still super excited to get mine on stock lollipop and improve the battery life (maybe?).
I'm sure enough will be out soon. Wait a day or three.
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Patience young grasshopper. All will be well.
I had almost given up hope on my G4, but now. I see the light at the end of that glorious 16MP OIS camera which I have grown to love, roll on the roms and amazing dev support we all saw for the G3.
I just want to know what apps or widgets can I remove from the T-Mobile g4 that will help the phone have a better battery life or have better performance
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Jonnyn93 said:
I had almost given up hope on my G4, but now. I see the light at the end of that glorious 16MP OIS camera which I have grown to love, roll on the roms and amazing dev support we all saw for the G3.
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Gonna be worth the wait!
You cant install roms without a custom recovery, and in order to get cutom recovery you need the bootloader unlocked. Only model currently able to unlock the bootloader is the EU model.
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You can unlock the T-Mobile version by checking enable oem unlock under developer options. Once rooted you can use flashify to flash twrp. Its under original android development under the tmobile g4 forums if any other t mobile users need it. I've already used it to create a backup and it's working fine.
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Rydah805 said:
I'm sure enough will be out soon. Wait a day or three.
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Or 15.
But yeah, patience is golden.
grneyez said:
You cant install roms without a custom recovery, and in order to get cutom recovery you need the bootloader unlocked. Only model currently able to unlock the bootloader is the EU model.
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Pretty much this.
Root simply means we have access to system files to manage them according to our own liking.
In order to flash ROM's, your bootloader needs to be unlocked. The reason why root was so easily available on the H815 EUR model is because the bootloader was unlockable officially through LG, which meant simply flashing a custom recovery, in this case TWRP, then flashing SuperSU.zip gives you full root access. H815 EUR users have had it good for a while now, I sure envy them! But once a method to unlock the bootloader becomes available, we'll be able to flash custom ROM's and the whole lot. As with anything else - it's just a matter of time.
Just going to hop in here to state that I'll be working to bring AICP to the G4 ASAP.
Steve125 said:
You can unlock the T-Mobile version by checking enable oem unlock under developer options. Once rooted you can use flashify to flash twrp. Its under original android development under the tmobile g4 forums if any other t mobile users need it. I've already used it to create a backup and it's working fine.
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Been there, done that today. Got TWRP installed and got rid of the extra crap Tmobile put on here.
I would just be happy with a debloated stock rom with some added options such as center clock and to clean up the status bar icon clutter (alarm, NFC, 2 data icons, battery mod.
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Just going to hop in here to state that I'll be working to bring AICP to the G4 ASAP.
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I can't wait! Aicp was my daily driver on my g2 and n7.
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grneyez said:
You cant install roms without a custom recovery, and in order to get cutom recovery you need the bootloader unlocked. Only model currently able to unlock the bootloader is the EU model.
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player911 said:
I would just be happy with a debloated stock rom with some added options such as center clock and to clean up the status bar icon clutter (alarm, NFC, 2 data icons, battery mod.
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I honestly do not know why OEM's don't let us do that already. It's so utterly bizarre. In this day and age, we really shouldn't have to go to such extents for slightly more convenient/better looking icons in the status bar.
At least Sony lets its users customise the status bar a bit. My Xperia Z3+ lets me customise what icons are shown, but won't let me move the clock or change the battery icon.
The G4 will be a speed demon if it gets CM12.1 My only worry being the camera and if it'll still produce amazing shots. I know that the physical camera itself with its f1.8 aperture lens is the reason why low light shots are amazing, but I wonder how much of it is down to the software's post processing. Time will tell, I hope.
crdnl. said:
Just going to hop in here to state that I'll be working to bring AICP to the G4 ASAP.
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Sweet! My nexus 7 and M7 are running it at the moment
grneyez said:
You cant install roms without a custom recovery, and in order to get cutom recovery you need the bootloader unlocked. Only model currently able to unlock the bootloader is the EU model.
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False. TMobile can easily be unlocked via deveopler tab
thenewbigmack said:
False. TMobile can easily be unlocked via deveopler tab
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I was'nt talking about T-Mobile, I was referencing the 815 series.
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To my knowledge, using the Loki method does not require an unlocked bootloader.
Eric618 said:
To my knowledge, using the Loki method does not require an unlocked bootloader.
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Yeah, the G2 never got an unlocked bootloader. Loki and Bump got around that.
just find some information about a lolipop upgrade for motorola droid ultra/mini/maxx from motorola upgrades pages :crying: :crying:
mt021322 said:
just find some information about a lolipop upgrade for motorola droid ultra/mini/maxx from motorola upgrades pages :crying: :crying:
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https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/110262
The link for more details is dead however...
BackCheck said:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/110262
The link for more details is dead however...
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thanks,..i forgot for a link :good:
this attachment is what i've got from motorola forums about a dead links
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/19343d1335?page=24
Sad news, they should offer owners the option to unlock their bootloader so they can upgrade to Lollipop themselves.
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sign a petition, give us the BL UNLOCK CODE, we don't need a cashback
un1ocked said:
sign a petition, give us the BL UNLOCK CODE, we don't need a cashback
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Yay,give me a link petition,.i will sign it,i' ll support it..
I found a link
https://www.change.org/p/verizon-dr...source=share_for_starters&utm_medium=copyLink
Let' s go
I signed it I'm number 97 of 100 but don't think it will do any good because the petitions don't seen to ever work out will for any of us.
leerpsp said:
I signed it I'm number 97 of 100 but don't think it will do any good because the petitions don't seen to ever work out will for any of us.
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At least we' re doing something,no matter what' s a result.
Verizon isn't going to let Motorola bl unlock these phones until they stop selling them like the X
But there is a new unlock exploit coming very soon that *will* work on the 8960/pro, so most of us will at least get 5.1 via cyanogenmod, it should breathe new life into these devices for at least the rest of 2016, maybe longer.
Maybe there is a chance to even get 6 via cyanogenmod eventually if the drivers can be ported from 5.1 ? Or is that an unrealistic expectation?
Let's hope this new 8960/ pro exploit is real for the sake of those who have not had the pleasure of running LP and MM on their machines. My MAXX and OG Moto X have been on LP for over a year now and it ran much better than KK other than the cell standby bug. I just flashed CM13 on this phone and it is even better. Testing out doze now, seems to be pretty good on the battery. This is a great phone, if it is bootloader unlocked!
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_ck_ said:
.... selling them like the X But there is a new unlock exploit coming very soon that *will* work on the 8960/pro, so most....
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blasphemy !! rofl
teerout said:
blasphemy !! rofl
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sorry that went over my head? blasphemy? why?
@beaups
What has a higher probability of happening?
WP = 0 or
Bootloader Unlock
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@beaups
What has a higher probability of happening?
WP = 0 or
Bootloader Unlock
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Same.
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beaups said:
Same.
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What version Android are these devices running. Are you able to get (temp) root?
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beaups said:
What version Android are these devices running. Are you able to get (temp) root?
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root exists on the (verizon) mini/maxx/ultra (same phone internals) because of work done by crashxxl to bypass the bootloader and write over the rom via qload driver mode - basically he writes the changes needed for root and SU
I believe he figured it out by studying the developer edition of the device which is bl unlocked
it works quite well, we have root and xposed but wp=1 of course
laginimaineb's next announcement will open the device for everyone but I don't think he is releasing a proof of concept, at least not for this phone model, so if you are willing, we could probably really use your help when that happens
I'd be happy to send you a mini (to keep) if that will help motivate you
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root exists on the (verizon) mini/maxx/ultra (same phone internals) because of work done by crashxxl to bypass the bootloader and write over the rom via qload driver mode - basically he writes the changes needed for root and SU
I believe he figured it out by studying the developer edition of the device which is bl unlocked
it works quite well, we have root and xposed but wp=1 of course
laginimaineb's next announcement will open the device for everyone but I don't think he is releasing a proof of concept, at least not for this phone model, so if you are willing, we could probably really use your help when that happens
I'd be happy to send you a mini (to keep) if that will help motivate you
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What version Android are most people running?
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beaups said:
What version Android are most people running?
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it's kitkat 4.4.4 - the only option right now unless you have a developer model or paid for sunshine so you can use cyanogenmod, etc.
SU6-7 rom was built December 2014 (sunshine cannot unlock this one)
SU4.21 rom was built June 2014 - sunshine CAN unlock this version but if anyone has accepted the OTA, it's too late because now the phone is SU6-7.3 and fuse blown
I can send you either SU4 or SU6 to play with
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it's kitkat 4.4.4 - the only option right now unless you have a developer model or paid for sunshine so you can use cyanogenmod, etc.
SU6-7 rom was built December 2014 (sunshine cannot unlock this one)
SU4.21 rom was built June 2014 - sunshine CAN unlock this version but if anyone has accepted the OTA, it's too late because now the phone is SU6-7.3
I can send you either SU4 or SU6 to play with
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So sunshine is available for these models and people skipped it? Or on too new of firmware to use it?
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So sunshine is available for these models and people skipped it? Or on too new of firmware to use it?
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SU4 hasn't been available for a year now, maybe longer and you cannot downgrade these phones
verizon now ships all of them with SU6, so no sunshine, and verizon refuses to let motorola unlock the bootloader like they did with the X
Good day all,
I noticed several cluttered threads in Q&A that are becoming more of a discussion than question and answer format.
I wanted to make this thread as a one stop shop for all things Root and Bootloader related for the G-930T (Tmobile Galaxy Note 7).
Please discuss root, bootloader and work with each other in here.
Please do not discuss the bounty in here, and do not clutter the bounty thread with casual conversation about root.
Cheers,
Baja
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Well we know the Bootloader is locked and can only be unlocked by Samsung( That's not gonna happen).
Based on what happened and is continuing to happen with the S7 there is a possibility of achieving Root on the N7(ENG) which I will not be a guinea pig and try. I'm sure others will if and when it's available.
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Well we know the Bootloader is locked and can only be unlocked by Samsung( That's not gonna happen).
Based on what happened and is continuing to happen with the S7 there is a possibility of achieving Root on the N7(ENG) which I will not be a guinea pig and try. I'm sure others will if and when it's available.
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I second this. Just wish we could keep samsung pay after root. Not gonna happen but wishful thinking.
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Just want to note that you may not want to take any updates if you plan on rooting in the future (if an exploit is available).
dirtymindedx said:
I second this. Just wish we could keep samsung pay after root. Not gonna happen but wishful thinking.
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Not true on my Nexus 6 we could not use Android pay with root. But someone came up with a walk around systemless root and it worked.
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Not true on my Nexus 6 we could not use Android pay with root. But someone came up with a walk around systemless root and it worked.
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he said Samsung pay...two separate paying system
Chord_Hugo87 said:
he said Samsung pay...two separate paying system
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No I know what he said but if there can be a walk around for one (should) be able to do one for the other.
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No I know what he said but if there can be a walk around for one (should) be able to do one for the other.
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not possible if you trip knox and in order to get root you need to trip knox.
jason504 said:
No I know what he said but if there can be a walk around for one (should) be able to do one for the other.
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One of them is from Google and doesn't care about Knoxx and the other is from Samsung and does care about Knoxx. Two completely different things. The Samsung Pay not working after Knoxx is tripped has been going on for a year as of tomorrow. The systemless root that doesn't trip Knoxx is one thing but as soon as you start flashing, kiss Samsung Pay goodbye.
Yep, and worst of all. Once it's tripped, Samsung pay will never work again on that device
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Luckily for me, if root becomes available its a no-brainer. Samsung pay doesn't support my bank, and I won't have a credit card. Even if Samsung Pay would work for me, it would still be an easy choice to have root instead. I would like to play around with altering the speaker volume, deleting bloatware, making tweaks, ad blocking, etc.
Did anyone ever get the files that Beans asked for over to him?
Why can't those of us with t variants just flash the unlocked w8 bootloader? Seems like we've been left an out? Yes?
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Rx8Driver said:
Why can't those of us with t variants just flash the unlocked w8 bootloader? Seems like we've been left an out? Yes?
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In order for you to flash anything to any bootloader, it needs to be unlocked. With it locked Odin says it can't. So till the note 7 gets unlocked (in time) we have to wait. Phone only few days old, be work around soon.
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Did anyone ever get the files that Beans asked for over to him?
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Good question
@BeansTown106 did you ever get a Tar?
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It appears this guy is in the process of getting the stock firmware uploaded
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3444003
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ethanscooter said:
Just want to note that you may not want to take any updates if you plan on rooting in the future (if an exploit is available).
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That is true. Android 7 Nougat will have more security features that Samsung is going to take advantage of with the Galaxy Note 7. That may make unlocking bootloader and rooting even more difficult.
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It looks like the sprint guys have obtained an engineering bootloader/kernel. Someone may be able to do something with this for us..
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I got the stock n930t boot.img but im wondering is how would i go by making a kernel "engboot". I also removed dm-verity but that didn't work. All i get is a failed message through odin. Another testing i have done is I even just modified one simple thing in the stock kernel say in default.prop ro.secure=1 to =0 and i still get a failed messsge. Once i flashed the stock unmodified version of the kernel i would get a success message and works which means any modification to the kernel will cause it to fail i just have to see what in the kernel checks for md5 changes or it may be something else if more devs can help together, then we can get this working.
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I got the stock n930t boot.img but im wondering is how would i go by making a kernel "engboot". I also removed dm-verity but that didn't work. All i get is a failed message through odin. Another testing i have done is I even just modified one simple thing in the stock kernel say in default.prop ro.secure=1 to =0 and i still get a failed messsge. Once i flashed the stock unmodified version of the kernel i would get a success message and works which means any modification to the kernel will cause it to fail i just have to see what in the kernel checks for md5 changes or it may be something else if more devs can help together, then we can get this working.
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Bro, please stop trying. This is obviously far above your skill level.
1. There is no way to convert a kernel to an "engboot."
2. The bootloader is LOCKED, so anything you do to the kernel's ramdisk will obviously not work because the whole point of dm-verity and a locked bootloader, among other things, is to stop the modification of system images, including the kernel ramdisk. Surely you didn't think it would be as easy as unpacking the boot.img, changing the ro.secure value from 1 to 0, then repacking..... did you?
3. The kernel doesn't "check" for anything MD5 related.
4. The bootloader is rejecting your changes, not the kernel.
5. Nothing you do to the boot.img, no matter how many devs you have, will do any good.
Hang tight, guys. We're trying everything we can.