Hi,
How long Google will provide updates for Nexus 4 after Nexus 5 is out ???
Thanks.
well, let's put it this way: galaxy nexus is technically a 2011 device (q4 2011) and it still gets updates. nexus s is a 2010 device (q4 2010) and it does not. the last update for nexus s was 4.1.2 late last year. I would expect about another year to a year and a half of updates....give or take a few months. Depending on the update schedule in that time period, there's a chance we would see 6.x or a very late 5.x build as our final update.
I'm obviously just speculating, but this is all based on past history with nexii, so please don't start a battle over this, anyone and scream for proof or anything lol
probably untill the end of next year...
It is MUCH more powerfull than Galaxy Nexus, so it may go even further...
hp420 said:
well, let's put it this way: galaxy nexus is technically a 2011 device (q4 2011) and it still gets updates. nexus s is a 2010 device (q4 2010) and it does not. the last update for nexus s was 4.1.2 late last year. I would expect about another year to a year and a half of updates....give or take a few months. Depending on the update schedule in that time period, there's a chance we would see 6.x or a very late 5.x build as our final update.
I'm obviously just speculating, but this is all based on past history with nexii, so please don't start a battle over this, anyone and scream for proof or anything lol
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Hi,
Thanks for the info.
18 months is the promised duration. any more than that is a blessing..
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As mentioned above, we would mostly see updates till the latest 5.x build or maybe even the 6.x build. What's interesting though is that starting from 5.0 Google is supposedly focusing on making android a smooth experience even on low power single core 512 MB RAM devices (did the nexus one have similar specs?). So maybe we might even see updates for 2 years or so. Just speculating. Even if we don't, we've always got these amazing devs, hats off to them.
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tiru.adi13 said:
As mentioned above, we would mostly see updates till the latest 5.x build or maybe even the 6.x build. What's interesting though is that starting from 5.0 Google is supposedly focusing on making android a smooth experience even on low power single core 512 MB RAM devices (did the nexus one have similar specs?). So maybe we might even see updates for 2 years or so. Just speculating. Even if we don't, we've always got these amazing devs, hats off to them.
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if they build for 512mb ram all legacy nexus devices are covered
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...-S,Samsung-GALAXY-Nexus/phones/4512,4990,5595
While the Nexus 4 Hardware can handle it.
4.1.2 for the Nexus S made it a little less snappy, that's why it was the latest update for the Nexus S.
muldy said:
While the Nexus 4 Hardware can handle it.
4.1.2 for the Nexus S made it a little less snappy, that's why it was the latest update for the Nexus S.
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yeah, but if the rumors are true, 5.0 will be better optimized for devices like nexus s with low ram. ram consumption is the biggest issue with running jelly bean on older devices right now.
kikloo said:
Hi,
How long Google will provide updates for Nexus 4 after Nexus 5 is out ???
Thanks.
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Until 2015
Since the specs on current gen phones are so good now, the N4 could probably be supported for many years.
Most Android updates need/recommend 1GB of RAM and a basic dual core processor.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/7...xus-7-is-reportedly-not-getting-android-m.htm
Just saw this, not sure if this news is reliable but that would kind of suck..
Far from credible. Honestly if it doesn't come from Google or Android Police don't beleve it. Actually don't even trust Google just AP.
Someone sent us a tip saying “goodbye Nexus 7, no Android M for you”, and they also said they are close to the Android M development...
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Thats the source lol.
I can see maybe the 2012 nexus 7 being dropped from M update.
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Would be bad if Google dropped support for a 1 1/2 yr old device (not looking at release date) . More fragmentation and might give Apple fanboys more to brag about .
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The nexus 7 2012 is fine but if google stops updating the 2013 version I'm gonna bust their asses my Xperia Z1 from 2013 even has a chance of getting M...
atm android 5.1.1 still sucks on my N7 so I hoped that M would fix my issues!
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vkk178 said:
Would be bad if Google dropped support for a 1 1/2 yr old device (not looking at release date) . More fragmentation and might give Apple fanboys more to brag about .
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They promised at least 18 months of updates after they stopped selling a device in the play store, iirc
Edit: here's the ap article, it looks like we might not get M
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/
godutch said:
They promised at least 18 months of updates after they stopped selling a device in the play store, iirc
Edit: here's the ap article, it looks like we might not get M
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/
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Hmm ... Not sure if Andoid M classifes as a update or as patch . IMHO its both ,since 5.1 is sluggish and tad buggy .
No updates would be bad and it sucks . One might think why invest in a expensive Nexus device when updates are so short lived . Apple fanboys might have some thing to brag about .
I'm not very concerned. Even if Google doesn't give us the update, it probably won't be very long before CyanogenMod comes out with it. I'm willing to bet that this tablet continues to get community support for another couple of years.
Without a CM Flo or deb device maintainer I doubt CM based on Android M would appear officially for us. Maybe other ROMs that have flo maintainers/devs will bring Android M to our devices after making 5.1.1 Lollipop binaries and stuff compatible with M
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Hmm ... Not sure if Andoid M classifes as a update or as patch . IMHO its both ,since 5.1 is sluggish and tad buggy .
No updates would be bad and it sucks . One might think why invest in a expensive Nexus device when updates are so short lived . Apple fanboys might have some thing to brag about .
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The only thing keeping me on Android is the ability to root, secure my devices, and retain full control of the file system - you know, administer the device. This is slowly being taken away, and when it does, I will probably jump ship. Apple makes quality hardware, and iOS isn't awful. It just doesn't give you any easy methods to truly administer the device without jumping through hoops.
In a world where you are a guest on your own device regardless of OS, Apple will come out the winner.
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The only thing keeping me on Android is the ability to root, secure my devices, and retain full control of the file system - you know, administer the device. This is slowly being taken away, and when it does, I will probably jump ship. Apple makes quality hardware, and iOS isn't awful. It just doesn't give you any easy methods to truly administer the device without jumping through hoops.
In a world where you are a guest on your own device regardless of OS, Apple will come out the winner.
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Besides the point you mentioned , Android does have other benefits ... But I was talking more in terms of Nexus devices . If high end devices & Nexus devices (from the google stable) dont get updates for longer , it would be crappy .No point investing in an expensive Nexus device..
If they stopped selling the N7 2013 in October 2014, 18 months of updates would end April 2016 I think.
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2 years after release date
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Despite rumors circulating about the chance of official M for flo, I doubt that it will be left out. After all, Google recently announced monthly updates for a list of nexus devices that includes flo. Even if those updates came only in the form of patches for L, I'm sure unofficial support will be there. Even my old galaxy nexus has unofficially made it to the latest revision of lollipop...
I believe we will get it. It just turned 2 and its only like 3 month's older than the nexus 5. It'll be the last major update but it'll still get it. The 2 year guarantee is just that, a guarantee it doesn't mean they'll necessarily cut off devices at that point
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Cor-master said:
I believe we will get it. It just turned 2 and its only like 3 month's older than the nexus 5. It'll be the last major update but it'll still get it. The 2 year guarantee is just that, a guarantee it doesn't mean they'll necessarily cut off devices at that point
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Totally agree, 5.1.1 runs smooth on my N7 so I see no reason from a hardware perspective that the N7 shouldn't get M. I think it will be last release so lets hope its a good one.
When I bought my wife's 2013 Nexus 7, it was mid-2014 and I thought for sure it was my only chance of owning a Nexus device, living in the US. I bought it for me, but then I discovered I don't like tablets very much. Fortunately, my wife loves it, so I wiped it and made it hers.
From 4.2 to 4.3, 4.4, 5.0, and now 5.1, it's had four major updates. That's more than any Android phone I've owned has gotten. First got one, second got none, third one got three, fourth one got one so far. Samsung, Motorola, and Samsung again on US Cellular, and HTC on Verizon. All flagships but the first one. It seems to me that I really care about updates on my phones, but on the tablet, it doesn't matter. The tablet doesn't feel like a mission-critical device. It feels like a media device. Had the price gap not been so wide, I wonder if I shouldn't have just gotten an iPad. Not that the Nexus 7 is bad. I just found that a tablet didn't do anything for me. It's just a bigger screen.
If Google is going to cut Nexus updates off after just two years, that's better than a lot of OEM phones get. Though, I do wonder, why did the Nexus 4, released in 2012, get the M preview, but not flo, released in 2013? Or am I mistaken? Was the Nexus 4 abandoned as well?
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When I bought my wife's 2013 Nexus 7, it was mid-2014 and I thought for sure it was my only chance of owning a Nexus device, living in the US. I bought it for me, but then I discovered I don't like tablets very much. Fortunately, my wife loves it, so I wiped it and made it hers.
From 4.2 to 4.3, 4.4, 5.0, and now 5.1, it's had four major updates. That's more than any Android phone I've owned has gotten. First got one, second got none, third one got three, fourth one got one so far. Samsung, Motorola, and Samsung again on US Cellular, and HTC on Verizon. All flagships but the first one. It seems to me that I really care about updates on my phones, but on the tablet, it doesn't matter. The tablet doesn't feel like a mission-critical device. It feels like a media device. Had the price gap not been so wide, I wonder if I shouldn't have just gotten an iPad. Not that the Nexus 7 is bad. I just found that a tablet didn't do anything for me. It's just a bigger screen.
If Google is going to cut Nexus updates off after just two years, that's better than a lot of OEM phones get. Though, I do wonder, why did the Nexus 4, released in 2012, get the M preview, but not flo, released in 2013? Or am I mistaken? Was the Nexus 4 abandoned as well?
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M developer preview was available for the nexus 5,6 and 9, unfortunately the nexus 4 didn't make the cut, as you quite rightly said, it was released in 2012, which is a bit more than the two year update garuntee
I want marshmallow, any custom rom for flo?
djlah said:
I want marshmallow, any custom rom for flo?
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Marshmallow hasn't been released so there is no AOSP Source made public from Google. ROMs will appear once Android 6.0 and it's Source Code is released (rumored by the end of this month)
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Our devices will not get Android M. Everyone's saying it.
So what is this? Why google worked on these devices for Android 6.0?
android-m-preview
- Nexus 10
- Nexus 7 (2012)
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android-m-preview-1
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- Nexus 7 (2012)
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- Nexus 10
- Nexus 7 (2012)
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On October 15, 2014, Google officially announced that Android L would be known as Android 5.0 "Lollipop". The company also unveiled launch devices for Android 5.0—including Motorola's Nexus 6 and HTC's Nexus 9—for release on November 3, 2014. Google stated that Nexus (including the Nexus 4, 5, 7, and 10) and Google Play edition devices would receive updates to Lollipop "in the coming weeks"; one more developer preview build for Nexus devices and the new SDK revision for application developers would be released on October 17, 2014. Update schedules for third-party Android devices may vary by manufacturer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Lollipop
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Maybe we need to wait a little bit.
perfect_ said:
Our devices will not get Android M. Everyone's saying it.
So what is this? Why google worked on these devices for Android 6.0?
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Probably to give the dev's something to work with rather than officially supporting it, someone will get it booting and that's probably what they're hoping for.
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Probably to give the dev's something to work with rather than officially supporting it, someone will get it booting and that's probably what they're hoping for.
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I never thought about this... If this is true, it will probably go down as one of the greatest strokes of genius to happen at Google in regards to the Nexus program. Capitalizing on the unlocked bootloader, and throwing devs a bone without taking the time and resources to support them officially. Those who really want it get Marshmallow, and everybody's happy.
Great....now I don't need to upgrade to Pixel C.
Anyone have a guess or idea on when 7.0 will arrive on the Pure Edition?
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Anyone have a guess or idea on when 7.0 will arrive on the Pure Edition?
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Stock OTA? Probably in Novemberish December like Marshmallow did. Custom roms? Prob late September early October
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Stock OTA? Probably in Novemberish December like Marshmallow did. Custom roms? Prob late September early October
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Do you think Motorola will really pump out the update so quickly now that Lenovo owns them instead of Google?
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Do you think Motorola will really pump out the update so quickly now that Lenovo owns them instead of Google?
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If Lenovo is smart, it will happen on this time frame. After all, this was one of the selling points of this phone and brand. I can understand their stance on quarterly security updates vice monthly, so I don't think it is indication of any delay to be expected. Having recently acquired the Moto line, failure to meet this expectation would be bad for business. My only hope is that the level of quality fit future phones remains intact. I have had the bad luck of being burned by both a laptop and windows tablet by them. Both had mobos that quit within a few months of the year warranty being up.
It shouldn't take more than 2 months after the release for nexus which means in november ; marshmallow was released fir nexus devices in october and our moto recieved it in december! Actually I believe that it shoudn't take more than a month ! I mean the job is pretty easy for lenovo! No modding no UI changes..... It's pretty much stock android All it takes is a clean build ! It isn't that different from making an update for nexus devices!
Although I've lost track of when exactly they were pushed out by Lenovorola, I seem to recall my MotoX PE getting a November, then February, security patch and the "latest" May 2016 was pushed around July 20th... If that pattern (pushing out every 3rd Google release ~ 10 weeks later) holds true, might we see the August patch pushed later this month? Or will any more 6.0 patches be skipped in light of the future 7.x upgrade (whenever that may be)?
One of the reasons why I'm sticking with CM. they are on Oct. 5th security patch while the normal stock ROM is far behind
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One of the reasons why I'm sticking with CM. they are on Oct. 5th security patch while the normal stock ROM is far behind
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I hear you... One of the reasons I bought a Nexus 5X in June when the price dropped. But looking at my MotoX since then reminds me it's otherwise a better phone imho (VoLTE works fine for me on TMo).
Question: I assume you had to unlock your bootloader to root and run CM ? If so, can you relock in that state? I had to unroot and flash stock multiple times before I was finally able to relock... I could be completely wrong, but I would think the benefit of timely, monthly security updates is outweighed by an unlocked bootloader and root access?
According to a twitter reply from Moto Support, they ditched even the quarterly security update.
" We're implementing essential patches.As new security issues emerge, we will evaluate them and update your phone as needed.-Maya"
Evaluating, means they may or may not release security patches so do not hold your breath for an August updated. Yet, Moto Support on twitter was very quick to reply the first inquiry. I encourage everyone to contact them with questions @Moto_Support Let them know or demands!