How do i enable Adaptive storage? - Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers

Is it possible to do this on the moto g4 plus?

j0nas_ said:
Is it possible to do this on the moto g4 plus?
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Go into settings>Storage & USB, choose your SD card, hit the 3 dots at the top and choose format as internal. Of course I guess you know you can't move system apps and other apps that the developer chooses to prevent from moving.

Tel864 said:
Go into settings>Storage & USB, choose your SD card, hit the 3 dots at the top and choose format as internal. Of course I guess you know you can't move system apps and other apps that the developer chooses to prevent from moving.
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Thanks, now i have 45 gb instead of 12 in internal storage!

something you have to know before formatting an sdcard as internal storage, is that you need a fast card if you want to move heavy apps (like games and that kind of stuff)
i say this because in my old phone (Moto g3), i bought a class 10 uhs1 16gb sdcard, and the apps run slow. Then i bought a class10 uhs3 32gb sdcard and everything changes. Apps on the sd didn't get stuck on starting or loading, and in general, they run a faster than the previous card
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Lapnis said:
something you have to know before formatting an sdcard as internal storage, is that you need a fast card if you want to move heavy apps (like games and that kind of stuff)
i say this because in my old phone (Moto g3), i bought a class 10 uhs1 16gb sdcard, and the apps run slow. Then i bought a class10 uhs3 32gb sdcard and everything changes. Apps on the sd didn't get stuck on starting or loading, and in general, they run a faster than the previous card
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My card is 32gb class 6 made by samsung, I didn't think it would be fast tbh but it's on par with internal storage (more or less). The only slow thing was formatting it.

j0nas_ said:
My card is 32gb class 8 made by samsung, I didn't think it would be fast tbh but it's on par with internal storage (more or less). The only slow thing was formatting it.
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if it's enough for you and you don't feel that apps see running slow, so it's ok....
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Moto G internal memory is a micro SD

Today in the morning, I read a notice about memory of Moto G, it says this device use a micro SD card like internal memory.
It is a inconvenient because SD is worse that any NAND, Motorola says that is not possible replace this memory because in this memory is containing the system.
drkbzx said:
Today in the morning, I read a notice about memory of Moto G, it says this device use a micro SD card like internal memory.
It is a inconvenient because SD is worse that any NAND, Motorola says that is not possible replace this memory because in this memory is containing the system.
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Heard of that too,but as long as the phone still fast and we dont have sudden death because of that there is no reason to worry
In fact it's not's a normal SD,but yeah it's a way to make the phone cheaper
Look, if they keep this phone at about this price point for future iterations then I'm looking at a yearly upgrade. At the absolute worst, I'd have this phone for two years (I can't see that happening). So will an internal microSD last that one-year life cycle I have for my device? Yes, it absolutely should. It does exactly what you need it to, so I couldn't possibly care less.
It isn't true. The Moto G does not contain a hidden microSD card. The storage is an eMMC module that is soldered to the mainboard (this was incorrectly reported as an eMMC card which do not exist).
The rumors of the Moto G having a microSD card come from a German blog that saw a metal cover that was coincidentally the same shape and size as a microSD card and assumed that this meant that a card was hidden underneath. There isn't.
Wouldn't surprise me if all this was a big plan to drive more traffic to ArenaMobile. Clickbaiting basically.
Slashgear wrote about this http://www.slashgear.com/moto-g-microsd-expansion-not-so-fast-27310163/
drkbzx said:
Today in the morning, I read a notice about memory of Moto G, it says this device use a micro SD card like internal memory.
It is a inconvenient because SD is worse that any NAND, Motorola says that is not possible replace this memory because in this memory is containing the system.
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Good to know, but i can't see any problem with that. The phone is superb
flibblesan said:
It isn't true. The Moto G does not contain a hidden microSD card. The storage is an eMMC module that is soldered to the mainboard (this was incorrectly reported as an eMMC card which do not exist).
The rumors of the Moto G having a microSD card come from a German blog that saw a metal cover that was coincidentally the same shape and size as a microSD card and assumed that this meant that a card was hidden underneath. There isn't.
Wouldn't surprise me if all this was a big plan to drive more traffic to ArenaMobile. Clickbaiting basically.
Slashgear wrote about this http://www.slashgear.com/moto-g-microsd-expansion-not-so-fast-27310163/
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Damned Krauts!
I hope it is a microSD card, so I can replace by a big one.
Did you not read the read, netyang? It's already been clarified that there is no microSD slot hidden in the phone.
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As long as it's a fast micro sd card it doesn't matter surely?
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rymate1234 said:
As long as it's a fast micro sd card it doesn't matter surely?
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No. eMMC has some advantages like durability and the technology of construction is better, for example in heat conduction is better than a SD because can preventing overheating in better way.
I really doubt that any microSD card could deliver such great performance in Androbench. And even if there were such microSD available on market, assembling it in mid/low-end device would be impossible because of price.
Here are tests from benchmarks (random write? o . O ): http://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-Motorola-Moto-G-Smartphone.106672.0.html
Okay
flibblesan said:
It isn't true. The Moto G does not contain a hidden microSD card. The storage is an eMMC module that is soldered to the mainboard (this was incorrectly reported as an eMMC card which do not exist).
The rumors of the Moto G having a microSD card come from a German blog that saw a metal cover that was coincidentally the same shape and size as a microSD card and assumed that this meant that a card was hidden underneath. There isn't.
Wouldn't surprise me if all this was a big plan to drive more traffic to ArenaMobile. Clickbaiting basically.
Slashgear wrote about this *** (I'm new)
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Well, so it is a good phone, I hope to have it soon, was what worried me.
Me and a friend saved some screenshots from a mobile phone with a 32GB SD Card Class 10 and internal memory of Moto G.
Images are attached.
FelipeBHZ said:
Me and a friend saved some screenshots from a mobile phone with a 32GB SD Card Class 10 and internal memory of Moto G.
Images are attached.
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Tell about this trick for us its useful to other moto g users
ela1103 said:
Tell about this trick for us its useful to other moto g users
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It´s not a trick. It's just a printscreen from 2 mobile phones showing that Internal MotoG's SDCard is faster even then a Class 10 MicroSD.
I want the moderator to ban me.
Not this again. Please...
FYI the memory is eMMC and it´s SOLDERED to the board. Good luck replacing it.
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Why is there no SD slot this seems ludicrous cause of the tiny 8 GB size hell my music is more than that. Just seems like its driving away customers cause i like the phone but I will probably go with the LG optimus as I cant handle the small amount of storage.
Fant0m3 said:
Why is there no SD slot this seems ludicrous cause of the tiny 8 GB size hell my music is more than that. Just seems like its driving away customers cause i like the phone but I will probably go with the LG optimus as I cant handle the small amount of storage.
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There's a 16GB version and Moto G 4G and 2nd Gen. have SD slots
k-kuchen said:
There's a 16GB version and Moto G 4G and 2nd Gen. have SD slots
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All 2nd gen models?
Even the Dualsim ones?

[DISCUSSION] Do you think that microsd slots slow down the device?

It is true? Google said that right? Nexus devices, Moto X & G has'nt slots, well, some people says that is due to Google wanting to sell Google Drive storage, but Moto X & G comes with free 50GB storage(i never owned a Nexus and dont know if they give free storage for Nexus) , and i guess that 66GB is pretty good for a phone. What do you think about it?
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Sort of true, if only in that if you compared two otherwise identical phones, one with 32GB internal and one with 16GB internal plus 16GB microSD, the second would be fractionally slower in booting up, and fractionally slower in accessing files stored on the external SD.
Access to files in the cloud will be slower than either of the above.
I have experience with 3 devices:
1. LG Optimus One, which had 170MB internal memory, so everything was on SD Card. It booted fast, but then I had to wait 2 minutes for SD apps to appear and then a few more seconds for the SD to be fully usable.
2. Galaxy S3 mini, which had 8 GB internal storage + 8GB SD card. It booted fast, all apps useful, but it lagged until the SD was mounted and any apps loaded before had horrible crashes, or redraws, you just had to wait like 30 seconds for the SD to mount and 10 more to be usable.
3. Moto G. No SD, it boots, it works.
Depending on the device and memory used, the SD might be boosting (it did on the P500), but it slowed down my S3 mini, and I only had my music on it.
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Adoptable storage problems

I was just wondering how many of you have had problems/success with the adoptable storage. I have had two Moto x pures and both have messed up memory cards. I have lost 3 cards total that I could not access even when I tried from my PC. If you have had success I would love to know what card you are using. I've used a SanDisk ultra 64gb. A Samsung Evo 32gb and a lexar 32gb. The blue and gray ones. I'm not sure what the model was. All three of those are dead now pretty much because I can't access them.
What have you done to kill them? Are you rooted and flashing Roms or is this with the stock rom and no root? If the later do they just fail randomly or is there a specific trigger?
Running completely stock. No root. No Roms. I've never flashed anything on these particular phones. I never saw anything in common when the memory cards stopped working. It would just say the memory card was removed and then I would not be able to access it or anything stored on. When I would insert it into the computer it would say I needed to format the card.
Adopted storage puts a lot of stress on SD cards, unofficially even Motorola recommends against it (look in the Lenovo Support forums, several Motorola representatives recommend not to use adopted storage if you can get away with it). The problem is consumer microSD cards are not intended for constant read/write use that adopted storage puts the card though, thus they fail much earlier than "typical" usage situations. Again, this varies by card and it's quality, some will go a very long time, others not so much.
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-X...ard-Portable-or-Internal-storage/td-p/3536596
Did you then format the card and test it? Either the card failed due to read write degrading it or it really lost connection and that damaged the file structure.
It may just be the file system not recognised by Windows. Use a low level SD card formatting tool and check after doing a full format.
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An SDcard formatted for adoptable storage is encrypted and won't be readable on your computer.
Also, there are a bunch of counterfeit cards for sale these days. They work, sort-of. They're 4-gig cards modified to report a higher capacity. Once you put too much data on them, the filesystem can get corrupted.
Even if the cards are good, I've had nothing but issues with adoptable storage. I've only used it on a Moto E with 4 gigs of storage. My Moto X uses portable storage, and I've had no issues.
Adoptable storage for the most part had been a failure in my opinion. Some OEMs disable the function, such as Samsung. If you read around, you see many bad stories about the storage as well. Granted some people like it, but it is just not worth it all things considered. Personally, I think the original concept of saving select apps to the sd card worked better. If the app performance was poor, you could move it to internal. Would love to see that option come back.
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I used apptosd for years and it worked well.
So I guess next time I should just get a phone with more internal memory. I figured since I already had memory cards and adoptable storage was an option I could just save some cash and get the 16gb phone. I'm still hoping someone shares a positive story and what memory card they are using with success.
Me and my wife both had our 1st cards ruined in the Moto x pure. I don't remember the brand but since off eBay they could have easily been knockoffs. Wasn't using them as addoptive storage. I am now. PC would not recognize them. There are programs that I have had success with for free on PC to retrieve your photos from the cards even though the PC doesn't read them
affiatic said:
Me and my wife both had our 1st cards ruined in the Moto x pure. I don't remember the brand but since off eBay they could have easily been knockoffs. Wasn't using them as addoptive storage. I am now. PC would not recognize them. There are programs that I have had success with for free on PC to retrieve your photos from the cards even though the PC doesn't read them
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In my personal preference, I back up my photos to a PC monthly. But just to be sure I lose very little should my card go south, I use Google photos to backup while charging and on wifi. The unlimited option for photos means a slight reduction in size, but I also have peace of mind that I will still have them.
I was using adoptable storage for about a year in my old moto e lte without issues (sandisk 16gb), it was working great although I wasn't moving any apps to card. One time when I messed something up (definitely it was my fault) I couldn't acces my card but all I had to do was to put card into sd card reader and format it using partition wizard (you have to delete partitions that windows can't acces on it's own).
I have noticed my phone seems a bit slower launching some apps since I started adopted storage. Maybe an extra second to launch so it doesn't bother me. I am using am emtec u1 class 10 gold card. I don't know anything about the brand and am almost embarrassed to admit that I bought it at the hardware store lol
I have been using a SanDisk Ultra 32gb for 6 months without issue on stock non- rooted ROM. I don't take many pictures so no big deal for me if it gets corrupted. Amazon has the SanDisk 64gb Ultra for $16.00. Sadly I have the 16gb Pure.
I have the 16gb version with a Sandisk UHC-1 64gb as adoptable storage for about 2 months. Haven't had any issues so far and I moved the majority of my apps to the sd. Also haven't noticed any significant delay or performance impact either. I'm a casual user, no games or heavy demanding apps installed.

Can you save/edit photo on micro sd card?

I remember GS 7 can't edit photos you saved in micro sd card because of silly android permission issue, has this been resolved in GS 8?
Anyone know about this yet?
I am annoyed they are not providing a bigger sized internal memory phone TBH and I edit all my mobile photos directly on my S6 at present.
No real need for addtional memory card if they made bigger phone size.
64Gb is small ?
techguyone said:
64Gb is small ?
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64GB doesn't go as far as it once did.
I've had 64GB internal memory since 2014 with my Moto XT1225 and I'm to the point I can only make one TWRP backup at at time nowadays. I used to keep two or three while evaluating different ROMs. This phone has no microSD card slot.
My next phone will either have 128GB internal memory and/or microSD card.
But even 3 years ago, 32GB was just too small.
techguyone said:
64Gb is small ?
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64GB in 2017 is very small.
My music currently is 11GB my photos are really high also, only have a few vids and stuff + Apps i've got about 18GB of my 128 left.
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techguyone said:
64Gb is small ?
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64GB in 2017 is very small.
My music currently is 11GB my photos are really high also, only have a few vids and stuff + Apps i've got about 18GB of my 128 left.
Well don't forget the S8 has a sd card slot too...
Things like music, pr0n, etc can go on that
Move music, video and all other larger files to the SD card. You can also integrate the SD card as part of the internal memory. I don't do this, but you could. I just have all my music, pics and larger files on my SD card. Always have. I went from the 64gb Note 7 to the 32gb S7E and I still have about 10 gb left on the internal on the S7E. I was using about 50 gb on my Note 7 internal but I wasn't fully utilizing the SD card because the N7 had a larger internal memory. Also don't forget to move over larger apps to SD card. I also do this to save space on the internal. 64gb is enough since we can use SD storage. I got two free 256 gb micro SD cards with my Note 7's, so I have the room. Even filling up the card with movies (use the Movie HD app, google it) I still have at least 50gb free on my SD card. That's with over 100 gb used of pics, music and misc files on my SD card already.
can we get back to the topic?
If we save camera to micro sd card, is it editable? is the permission issue gone
Whanksta said:
can we get back to the topic?
If we save camera to micro sd card, is it editable? is the permission issue gone
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I have a S7 G930F. My camera photos are saved into the SD card. I can edit them (crop, rotate, decorate etc).
Whanksta said:
I remember GS 7 can't edit photos you saved in micro sd card because of silly android permission issue, has this been resolved in GS 8?
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I haven't picked my S8+ from UPS yet, but I believe this issue is app dependent.
If the app you are using has the code written in, it will ask you to give it permission to write to the SD card when you start it up.
It has been this way for a while now, including the S7.
So, for example, I use Quick Pics for my gallery and it asks for the permission when I start it for the first time and access the SD card.

ZTE Blade Spark (Z971), Can internal storage be extended with a SD Card for apps?

I'm debating on getting a AT&T ZTE Blade Spark or Moto E4 Plus. The Specs are pretty much same, the only thing that is different is storage size. ZTE Comes with 16GB while the E4 Plus has 32GB. I would much rather save 50% and go with the Spark but 16gb isn't much storage for apps, So can I extend the storage space using a SD Card? 16GB isn't enough space for all my apps.
you can use an sd card as internal storage since it's running nougat, so yes, you can expand it
What is the recommended Class of Sd Card?
OmegaUltor said:
What is the recommended Class of Sd Card?
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128
OmegaUltor said:
What is the recommended Class of Sd Card?
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https://www.samsung.com/us/computin...ro-128gb-memory-card-w-adapter-mb-md128da-am/
This is the card that I use. Granted it's on the heavy side both price and capacity but so long as it's a class 10 card you should be good. Going lower just increases your chances (by a hair but still) of random failures which can muck up and afternoon.

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