Hi guys..
This is my question: "What are the real problems without Band 20 (LTE FDD 800MHz (B20)) in daily use?"
I'm interested to purchase 6/128GB Chinese version.
I live in Italy, and my carrier is TIM... my 4G works on LTE FDD 800/1800/2600 (B3/B7/B20), and Chinese version has all bands except 800MHz (B20). Is this a real problem or not?
There is a method to know what is most important frequency in my area? I can't find one app that show my my actual band... i want try to test my S4 daily signal to write a map of most used frequencies in my area. Does anyone know what app i can use for this?
Depending on where you live and what you carrier is, you risk not having LTE.
EDIT : If you're living in the countryside, you "need" it.
Sorry but i've launched the thread after wrong click... i've edited the original post.
I know that i risk to lost 4G connection... and i don't want this!
But if i test my area's band, and 800MHz is the 1% of signal coverage.. the problem is solved! (800MHz is short range band, but strong enough to penetrate buildings, but i've ADSL )
ciko84xp said:
Sorry but i've launched the thread after wrong click... i've edited the original post.
I know that i risk to lost 4G connection... and i don't want this!
But if i test my area's band, and 800MHz is the 1% of signal coverage.. the problem is solved! (800MHz is short range band, but strong enough to penetrate buildings, but i've ADSL )
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If your area is well covered by band 3 and 7 then you don't really need it.
Band 7 : Short range, "bad" indoor signal, big capacity. Great if you live in some big town, with a lot of antennas.
Band 20 : Long range, good indoor signal, "little" capacity. Great if you live in the countryside, with fewer towers.
Band 3 : "between" the other 2.
Ok thanx man... now i need any app that help me to trace my signal, i want scan it in my daily use, to know how much time (and where) i really use 800MHz Band! Can u help me to find an appropriate app? Are three days that i try, but nothing, I can't find the right app.
ciko84xp said:
Ok thanx man... now i need any app that help me to trace my signal, i want scan it in my daily use, to know how much time (and where) i really use 800MHz Band! Can u help me to find an appropriate app? Are three days that i try, but nothing, I can't find the right app.
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Sorry, i only know of LTE discovery but it only gives you your current network...
djona12 said:
Sorry, i only know of LTE discovery but it only gives you your current network...
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It's just what i need... but unfortunately my carrier isn't supported... :crying:
This is the 1st app that i've tryed 2 days ago...
My carrier is TIM (Telecom Italia Mobile).
ciko84xp said:
It's just what i need... but unfortunately my carrier isn't supported... :crying:
This is the 1st app that i've tryed 2 days ago...
My carrier is TIM (Telecom Italia Mobile).
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It needs root. Or at least I once granted it root...
Check this
http://www.android-hilfe.de/thema/s...-lte-in-deutschland-info-sammelthread.747199/
Picture one is 800 MHz, second ome 1800 MHz and the last one 2600 MHz but this is Telekom (Mercedes). On Vodafone or Telefonica 95 to 100% is band 20/800 MHz.
In Italy you can check the provider homepage. 800 MHz is up to 50 Mbit/s, 1800 MHz up to 100 or 150 Mbit/s and 2600 MHz is the rest (300 Mbit/s and more).
djona12 said:
It needs root. Or at least I once granted it root...
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I've my personal CustomROM on...
Klanac89 said:
Check this
http://www.android-hilfe.de/thema/s...-lte-in-deutschland-info-sammelthread.747199/
Picture one is 800 MHz, second ome 1800 MHz and the last one 2600 MHz but this is Telekom (Mercedes). On Vodafone or Telefonica 95 to 100% is band 20/800 MHz.
In Italy you can check the provider homepage. 800 MHz is up to 50 Mbit/s, 1800 MHz up to 100 or 150 Mbit/s and 2600 MHz is the rest (300 Mbit/s and more).
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Yes i know the Band20 (800MHz) importance, but in the end i've found a way to know which band i really use in my town (I live in a small town with 60,000 people). Simply using a Service Mode (+#0011#) i can see the actual band in use, and with my great surprise, i only use Band3 (1800 MHz) on LTE and Band1 (2100 MHz) on UMTS!!! I've found Band20 only a few times, and for few seconds. Ex: in my house i use only Band3 (speedtest 75 or more Mbps everywhere in my house), in 2 days no Band20 (but in my house isn't a problem, i've the optical fiber...) - Using my car i've turned around the town, and all town is covered by Band3, even the sea area, on the beach only Band3 (speedtest 50 Mbps)!!! A little problem at my work, in my office i've found Band20 (LTE) and Band1 (HSPA), but Band20 with -115 Dbs and Band1 -90 Dbs, and after many speedtest with Band20 i've max 5 Mbps, and with Band1 max 10 Mbps (But i work in a police central and i've a tons of PC - Radios - and it's really full of interference)!
In conclusion the Band20 is not really important for me! I do other tests and after i decide!
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Over at http://www.xperiax1.net/forum, there is a report that, even though the phone setting on the Xperia shows support for 850 Band, the hardware appears to be missing from the Xperia that was shipped from Clove.
I cancelled my pre-order from Clove until this gets sorted out.
Here is the post:
"Guys,
OK after checking and checking again and despite being told that the X1 supports 850 and 1900 3G the device turned up today and guess what? It does not so I can't get Rogers 3G out here in Canada!!!!!!!
Going to the phone settings shows that the device can be switched into the correct mode but doing this seems to have no effect.
I can only guess that the device has the software to support the band but the hardware does not.
So be careful folks, while you will get great Edge coverage you will not be able to get 3G!!!!!!
You have been warned!!"
I think it's pretty well established that the X1i has UTMS bands 900/1900/2100. Europe uses 900 and 2100, and most reports say the 1900 band is working on ATT's 3G. Of course this requires you to live in an area with 1900 3G coverage, not just 850 mhz 3G. Sounds like he lives in an area where Rogers only has 850 mhz 3G available.
I looked at the 1900 and 850 3G Band coverage in the US on ATT. 1900 Band actually covers more area than the 850 Band. Is there any disadvantage to only having 1900 Band in the US on the Xperia?
GermanGuy said:
I looked at the 1900 and 850 3G Band coverage in the US on ATT. 1900 Band actually covers more area than the 850 Band. Is there any disadvantage to only having 1900 Band in the US on the Xperia?
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850mhz is good for getting a signal indoors, since lower frequencies can travel through obstacles better. So no 850mhz support means you might get a weak 3G signal indoors, or no 3G signal at all.
Then again, you might just be living near a 1900mhz cellsite/tower that gives you a strong signal indoors, so YMMV.
Thank you. So do phones with both 850 and 1900 Band support use both Bands at the same time? Or, if not, how does the phone decide which band to use. Is the 3G speed the same on either Band, provided you get a good signal?
One issue that sways me more towards the X1i is the better video frame rate - 30 fps vs 24 fps on the X1a (because of the stupid Qualcomm patent issue here in the US)
GermanGuy said:
Thank you. So do phones with both 850 and 1900 Band support use both Bands at the same time? Or, if not, how does the phone decide which band to use. Is the 3G speed the same on either Band, provided you get a good signal?
One issue that sways me more towards the X1i is the better video frame rate - 30 fps vs 24 fps on the X1a (because of the stupid Qualcomm patent issue here in the US)
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Phones with both 850 and 1900 only use one at a time, but they can switch transparently from one to the other in areas with coverage from only one band. Exactly how it chooses which band I'm not sure (it could be network load, signal strength, etc).
Technically speaking, 1900 can offer more speed because the faster frequency allows for higher data rates. But since it's all just one 3G network, there should be no significant difference in 3G speed between 850 and 1900.
The Qualcomm patent is a tough reality for people that want the X1 for the US, and unfortunately there's just no way around it. If you happen to travel internationally frequently, the X1i will obviously be the prudent choice (you still get AT&T 1900 coverage, but also 2100/900 for virtually every other UMTS network in the world).
I found a new article with someone claiming to be receiving ATT 3g in an 850 only area. He states that none of the 1900 only devices he's tested receives a signal. He also said that SE reps he contacted claimed X1i support for 850 3g bands as well (yeah, I know not that credible).
http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=6165
Not getting my hopes up, but can anyone with an X1i confirm any of this?
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I found a new article with someone claiming to be receiving ATT 3g in an 850 only area. He states that none of the 1900 only devices he's tested receives a signal. He also said that SE reps he contacted claimed X1i support for 850 3g bands as well (yeah, I know not that credible).
http://www.pocketnow.com/index.php?a=portal_detail&t=news&id=6165
Not getting my hopes up, but can anyone with an X1i confirm any of this?
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Read on: http://discuss.pocketnow.com/showthread.php?p=78559
He's trying to verify if it's actually 850Mhz now. Still not 100% sure.
Hi Everyone,
I got my X1i on Tuesday. It's obviously a UK import, but so was my TyTN II and it worked great. When I got everything set up, I couldn't get more than 200kbps on dslreports. I put the sim card back in my TyTN II and retested, and got 1.2Mbps.
If I turn off HSDPA/HSUPA the data rate drops to 30kbps. I've played with every combination of data and voice bands and can't get the same performance as the TyTN. I do notice that my X1 never shows the H icon in the status bar like my other phone to indicate high speed (HSDPA).
The bands are exactly the same with a minor addition.
GSM: 900+1800 UMTS: 2100 + 800
GSM: 1900 + 850 UMTS: 1900 + 850
UMTS: 2100 + 800
AT&T seems to run on the middle one.
Does anyone have any thoughts on what could be holding my back? Same SIM, same data plan, etc.
Thanks very much in advance!!!
Hi,
Where do you live? Could be you only have UMTS 850 coverage... But, could also be something else..
dbond45 said:
Hi,
Where do you live? Could be you only have UMTS 850 coverage... But, could also be something else..
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I live near Reno, NV. The wierd thing is I literally power down, move the sim to my TyTN II and bingo! I get incredible speeds. Short of getting into the registry I have gone through and confirmed all the GPRS and HSDPA settings are exactly the same.
I think what dbond45 was saying is that you might be in an area that uses 850 band which isn't actually on the x1i. The tytn II on the other hand has the 850 band from what i understand so that might be why ur getting great speeds with ur tytn II.
Bxsteez said:
I think what dbond45 was saying is that you might be in an area that uses 850 band which isn't actually on the x1i. The tytn II on the other hand has the 850 band from what i understand so that might be why ur getting great speeds with ur tytn II.
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Ah, so you're thinking that even though it says it supports 1900+850 in the control panel, the 850 band may be disabled in the radio? I'm pretty technical, but would have no idea how to test that. Any ideas?
By the way, thanks for talking this through with me. I hope it's benefitting others too.
Yes from what i've read all over the place that the 850 radio is disabled. I know that even though the software says u can enable those bands it doesn't actually mean u can. I have the touch pro and it has all of the different bands in the settings and we all know no one can get 3G in the US. So it looks like that is what ur running into. I've read on howard forums at some point a way to test to see if u are working on the 850 band but i don't remember how they did it.
Bxsteez,
The program is fieldtest.exe, and you can find it under windows in your file explorer on the X1, once in WIndows, scroll down to fieldtest.exe and run, although I'm not sure what all the values me..
There is a dispute as to whether the X1i has UMTS 850 (see pocketnow.com post, but, IMHO, I don't think it does, although I wished it did)
Lemme do some research and see if I can find what band Reno is running on. It's very likely it's 850 3G since a) it's a newer market, and b) it's a rural area compared to large cities which use 1900 mhz UMTS...
From what i was reading on howard forums Canada only uses UMTS 850 and the people who have the x1i are reporting only edge speeds.
Indeed you all were right about the discussions on Howard Forums. Read through a lot of them. Thanks for the pointer to fieldtest.exe. I'm digging through it now. I'm hopeful that S/E just threw a software switch in their stack for 850Mhz so the X1i wouldn't carp any of Cingular's sales on the upcoming X1a. Hopeful and maybe a little naive.
X1 on AT&T
I had a similar instance yesterday, sent the X1 back. The same 3 choices for UMTS in WM Phone settings, I selected the 850/1900 bands. I got the H but it was slow. Moved my SIM back to the BlackJack II and worked just fine.
I think the ROM or WM6.1 Stamp they are using is incorrect.
The Xperia Box, on the white label shows UMTS EU1 US3 EU4 I believe which to me would mean 900/1900/2100 I am not positive about the last EU being 3 or 4 since I have mailed the phone already. There are a lot of listings on ebay which show UMTS 850/1900/2100 which I truly believe is incorrect and are being used from a Feb 08 page on gsm arena. Expansys USA told me they had both flavors, then the next day all you see on the US site is the 900/1900/2100.
The US ver is not released ( X1a) from what I read here and everywhere else.
dbond45 said:
Bxsteez,
There is a dispute as to whether the X1i has UMTS 850 (see pocketnow.com post, but, IMHO, I don't think it does, although I wished it did)
Lemme do some research and see if I can find what band Reno is running on. It's very likely it's 850 3G since a) it's a newer market, and b) it's a rural area compared to large cities which use 1900 mhz UMTS...
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1. There is no dispute. Only dumb people. the X1i DOES NOT have 850mhz UMTS band, the hardware isn't even in the phone. It falsely displayed 850+1900MHZ because it does 1900MHZ and WM assumes that if it has 1900 it must have 850. It doesn't..
2. Reno does in fact run a predominately 850mhz 3G networking using At&t (not cingular, its been over a year since they got bought out) Your speed is likely because of this. Oddly if your phone is set to auto negotiate networks it should pick up EDGE service and show a "G" does it display a G rather than an H? You said the H doesn't display when you force 850+1900 UMTS right? The question is what does come up? Signal strength etc.?
If you import a phone from the UK you need to be prepared to be disappointed with speeds, simple fact, most UK phones don't even support 1900mhz, its there for roaming purposes on the X1. Same reason the X1a will have 850/1900/2100 UMTS. 1900mhz band is the weaker of the 2 used by At&t... 1900mhz was the first frequency they used, they used it so save costs and setup a marginally OK 3G network on a larger area. 1900mhz being a higher frequency means it can travel further than 850, this results in slower speeds and poor reception depending on your location from the nearest tower. 850 is lower frequency and there for more dense, this translates into faster speeds and better reception. Most new areas of at&ts 3G network are spread around with 850mhz. Older markets are a combination of 850mhz/1900mhz and some just 1900mhz.
The point is, if you are blissfully unaware of all this then your best bet is to send the phone back and wait for the US release.
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1900mhz band is the weaker of the 2 used by At&t... 1900mhz was the first frequency they used, they used it so save costs and setup a marginally OK 3G network on a larger area. 1900mhz being a higher frequency means it can travel further than 850, this results in slower speeds and poor reception depending on your location from the nearest tower. 850 is lower frequency and there for more dense, this translates into faster speeds and better reception. Most new areas of at&ts 3G network are spread around with 850mhz. Older markets are a combination of 850mhz/1900mhz and some just 1900mhz.
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FYI: The data transmission speed doesn't depend on frequency. Both 850 and 1900 bands are capable to provide the same speed.
mlinz said:
1. There is no dispute. Only dumb people. the X1i DOES NOT have 850mhz UMTS band, the hardware isn't even in the phone. It falsely displayed 850+1900MHZ because it does 1900MHZ and WM assumes that if it has 1900 it must have 850. It doesn't..QUOTE]
Actually, I along with many others are fully aware the X1i does not have 850 UMTS listed on the box, in the specs, etc. I even made a post about it. HOWEVER, there is a VERY SLIGHT chance it does, and SE never mentioned it in the specs for some unknown reason. If you go to pocketnow.com, Brandon CONFIRMS he spoke to 3 SE reps from the X1 support line who said the X1i had 850 UMTS support. Only 1 said it only had 900/1900/2100 UMTS as listed on the box. 3/4 reps saying it has 850 UMTS, along with the fact he supposedly only gets 850 UMTS where he lives, and is getting HSDPA on the X1i leaves a glimmer of hope for everyone out there, even if it is dismally small.
As far as the "false display" 850/1900 mhz option it is not so much a false display as a software option on most HTC phones, including the euro touch pro...
Anyways, I'm getting decent HSDPA coverage in Chicago...
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joedoe said:
FYI: The data transmission speed doesn't depend on frequency. Both 850 and 1900 bands are capable to provide the same speed.
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They may output the same speed initially, but 1900 you usually get less bars depending on your location to the tower and less bars means slower speeds.
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1900mhz being a higher frequency means it can travel further than 850
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You got this backwards. Think AM and FM. AM can be picked up much farther away.
veloaudio said:
You got this backwards. Think AM and FM. AM can be picked up much farther away.
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My bad, I do that a lot
Hello guys !
Newbie here, posting from Romania.
I've just received a Note 3 from US, it's the SM-N900T model, bought it online, guy said it is unlocked and region unlocked.
Inserted the Vodafone SIM that I have and nothing happens. I finally managed to find the network, but once i restarted the device, it's says "Searching".
I can't initiate calls. What do I need to do so I can use the phone?
Also it can't connect to my wireless router. It says "'authentication error occurred". Tried lots of stuff, like disabling the power mode of the wifi, router settings, but nothing!
Any help please. I just got this sweet phone and sadly i'm stuck !
Thank you!
m3pow
m3pow said:
Hello guys !
Newbie here, posting from Romania.
I've just received a Note 3 from US, it's the SM-N900T model, bought it online, guy said it is unlocked and region unlocked.
Inserted the Vodafone SIM that I have and nothing happens. I finally managed to find the network, but once i restarted the device, it's says "Searching".
I can't initiate calls. What do I need to do so I can use the phone?
Also it can't connect to my wireless router. It says "'authentication error occurred". Tried lots of stuff, like disabling the power mode of the wifi, router settings, but nothing!
Any help please. I just got this sweet phone and sadly i'm stuck !
Thank you!
m3pow
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I think it is region-locked, if it was network-locked would have asked directly for a code. You can ask in the specific N900T forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-tmobile
You might be able to use RegionLockAway to make it work (if you are rooted).
xclub_101 said:
I think it is region-locked, if it was network-locked would have asked directly for a code. You can ask in the specific N900T forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-tmobile
You might be able to use RegionLockAway to make it work (if you are rooted).
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I did try the RegionLockAway method, but no success. Program said that terminated successfully but I still can't get my network!
If i try to initate calls i get a "Not registered on network". After i search for a GSM, i get Vodafone, try to connect but nothing.
Strangely it does say that i have full signal, though it's still searching for the network!
Hello !
I can make emergency calls, i just noticed! It doesn't ask for a particular code at all, just that i can't reach my network, which is very unpleasant!
Thanks
Tud
An update on the phone's status.
I live is a small city, and on my old phone the network is bang on.
Today, I took the Note 3 with me, hopefully i can find some answers elsewhere, and in a big important city, 50km away, the singal strength was excelent, it found the network immediately.
What could it be then ? Some antenna issues, software issues?
Thanks !
**Update!
About the WiFi connectivity. I have a router which is not wireless, connected to a ZyXeL access point.
This way i can't seem to connect the Note 3 to the wireless network as I do with my laptop. I have changed this setup to a single wireless router (ZyXeL) and it works great.
Does anyone have a clue about my no network in my town issue?
Cheers
Technically, yes it IS unlocked for international use. Unfortunately the only band that the 900T supports with Vodafone Romania is 2100 which is the fastest band next to LTE on the carrier. If your not getting 2100 on your current phone then your going to get no service at all because theres no bands or older networks to fall back on. In the bigger city vodafone is going to have their fastest network available as its more congested thus the signal, because it was connecting to the 2100 band which is nearly 4G so it would be super smooth.
The N9005 is the only N3 that actually supports Vodafones network in your country on every band even LTE rollout.
Vodafone Romania Bands (Wikipedia)
226 01 900 MHz GSM/GPRS 2G
226 01 1800 MHz GSM/GPRS 2G
226 01 900 MHz UMTS/HSPA (7.2 Mbit/s/5.76 Mbit/s) 3G
226 01 2100 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (43.2 Mbit/s/5.76 Mbit/s) 3G
226 01 1800 MHz LTE (2x2 MIMO 75 Mbit/s/37.5 Mbit/s) 4G
Your only going to get service where vodafones HSPA+ services are deployed.
International bands according to TMO:
UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS/HSPA+: AWS Band IV / 2100 / 1900 / 850;Band II (1900);Quad Band GSM;LTE
Quad-Band GSM should mean your hitting 900 & 1800Mhz too though.... which is a band redundant with 3G & 2G services.
Thank you very much for clearing things up!
My only choices are: Orange and Cosmote
-- COSMOTE --
226 03 900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
226 03 1800 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
226 03 1800 MHz LTE (2x2 MIMO 75 Mbit/s/37.5 Mbit/s) 4G
226 06 2100 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (43.2 Mbit/s/5.76 Mbit/s) 3G
-- ORANGE --
226 10 900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
226 10 1800 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
226 10 900 MHz UMTS/HSPA (14.4 Mbit/s/5.76 Mbit/s) 3G
226 10 2100 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (43.2 Mbit/s/5.76 Mbit/s 3G
226 10 1800 MHz LTE (2x2 MIMO 75 Mbit/s/37.5 Mbit/s) 4G
nxneko said:
Technically, yes it IS unlocked for international use. Unfortunately the only band that the 900T supports with Vodafone Romania is 2100 which is the fastest band next to LTE on the carrier. If your not getting 2100 on your current phone then your going to get no service at all because theres no bands or older networks to fall back on. In the bigger city vodafone is going to have their fastest network available as its more congested thus the signal, because it was connecting to the 2100 band which is nearly 4G so it would be super smooth.
The N9005 is the only N3 that actually supports Vodafones network in your country on every band even LTE rollout.
Vodafone Romania Bands (Wikipedia)
226 01 900 MHz GSM/GPRS 2G
226 01 1800 MHz GSM/GPRS 2G
226 01 900 MHz UMTS/HSPA (7.2 Mbit/s/5.76 Mbit/s) 3G
226 01 2100 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (43.2 Mbit/s/5.76 Mbit/s) 3G
226 01 1800 MHz LTE (2x2 MIMO 75 Mbit/s/37.5 Mbit/s) 4G
Your only going to get service where vodafones HSPA+ services are deployed.
International bands according to TMO:
UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS/HSPA+: AWS Band IV / 2100 / 1900 / 850;Band II (1900);Quad Band GSM;LTE
Quad-Band GSM should mean your hitting 900 & 1800Mhz too though.... which is a band redundant with 3G & 2G services.
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Reading your post I impressed u have good knowledge of telco, I am residing in UAE & flashed poland firmware for my SM-N 9005 unlock sim free Note 3, No problem signals of LTE & all working fine but just for knowledge poland & UAE has same frequency if compare?Up to now UAE don’t have kitkat & always firmware update is bad, so if there is no much different between this two country in bandwidth I can keep using poland kitkat even after UAE relies kitkat, I try to search in google but not getting satisfactory answer if u can give some knowledge to improve mine will be highly appreciate.Thanks
nxneko said:
Technically, yes it IS unlocked for international use. Unfortunately the only band that the 900T supports with Vodafone Romania is 2100 which is the fastest band next to LTE on the carrier. If your not getting 2100 on your current phone then your going to get no service at all because theres no bands or older networks to fall back on. In the bigger city vodafone is going to have their fastest network available as its more congested thus the signal, because it was connecting to the 2100 band which is nearly 4G so it would be super smooth.
The N9005 is the only N3 that actually supports Vodafones network in your country on every band even LTE rollout.
Vodafone Romania Bands (Wikipedia)
226 01 900 MHz GSM/GPRS 2G
226 01 1800 MHz GSM/GPRS 2G
226 01 900 MHz UMTS/HSPA (7.2 Mbit/s/5.76 Mbit/s) 3G
226 01 2100 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (43.2 Mbit/s/5.76 Mbit/s) 3G
226 01 1800 MHz LTE (2x2 MIMO 75 Mbit/s/37.5 Mbit/s) 4G
Your only going to get service where vodafones HSPA+ services are deployed.
International bands according to TMO:
UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS/HSPA+: AWS Band IV / 2100 / 1900 / 850;Band II (1900);Quad Band GSM;LTE
Quad-Band GSM should mean your hitting 900 & 1800Mhz too though.... which is a band redundant with 3G & 2G services.
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Can I do something about this or I'm stuck with the 2100Mhz band ?
Clarification
Hello, I'm new to the XDA forums and I choose to post here because I have a similar issue. I also purchased a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 from a T-Mobile store in the United States. It is the SM-N900T model. My situation is that this phone was activated on the American T-Mobile network and the North American region. I am receiving here in Romania because I'm staying for some time. I have been reading a lot on the internet that European note 3's have this huge problem with region locks from Samsung. Although I have not found anybody to say specifically that a North American region phone with a sim unlock will not work in a European country. When I receive the phone I will do a sim unlock but will that be enough to make it work here?
jdomadia said:
Reading your post I impressed u have good knowledge of telco, I am residing in UAE & flashed poland firmware for my SM-N 9005 unlock sim free Note 3, No problem signals of LTE & all working fine but just for knowledge poland & UAE has same frequency if compare?Up to now UAE don’t have kitkat & always firmware update is bad, so if there is no much different between this two country in bandwidth I can keep using poland kitkat even after UAE relies kitkat, I try to search in google but not getting satisfactory answer if u can give some knowledge to improve mine will be highly appreciate.Thanks
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Yeah you can use any base, thats why N9005 roms are using whatever stable KK base is no matter the region. It doesnt effect what networks it can connect to overall. It just means you lose the UAE "My Number My Identity" IDs in settings so you cant register it with the TRA.
m3pow said:
Can I do something about this or I'm stuck with the 2100Mhz band ?
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"QuadBand" implies it works on all of Vodafones frequencies, because quadband in itself...means it works on the 4 major worldwide bands which voda operates now if TMobile/Samsung locks it...then that would be different story. ill ask when they re-open.
nxneko said:
Yeah you can use any base, thats why N9005 roms are using whatever stable KK base is no matter the region. It doesnt effect what networks it can connect to overall. It just means you lose the UAE "My Number My Identity" IDs in settings so you cant register it with the TRA.
"QuadBand" implies it works on all of Vodafones frequencies, because quadband in itself...means it works on the 4 major worldwide bands which voda operates now if TMobile/Samsung locks it...then that would be different story. ill ask when they re-open.
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Thanks lot for Info,Yes when I was on UAE firmware XSI in settings My mobile number was there but now No, is it make any different to us any way continue using mobile without "My Number My Identity" IDs?
jdomadia said:
Thanks lot for Info,Yes when I was on UAE firmware XSI in settings My mobile number was there but now No, is it make any different to us any way continue using mobile without "My Number My Identity" IDs?
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It does not matter, it is campaign from TRA to keep people who sim-card share safe when somebody uses it illegally. only DU forces their users to register & you use your actual number.
nxneko said:
It does not matter, it is campaign from TRA to keep people who sim-card share safe when somebody uses it illegally. only DU forces their users to register & you use your actual number.
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Good, So everything is fine with poland rom here in UAE but now I notice one thing GPS satelite getting lock very late, but may this bug of kitkat rom & nothing to do with region.Thanks Very much for Useful Info.
Hi.
I installed the Echoe_Illusion rom some days ago and I like it
The bad part is that I don't seem to get 4G on it and the network I'm using and the place I'm in sure should have it.
I'm in Sweden and the build number is: Echoe_Illusion_KOT49H.G900fFXXU1ANCE.
Baseband: G900FXXU1ANC9
I'm starting to think that something is wrong with that baseband and my geographic placement, can I test it somehow, cos a test just gives me
about 25M down and 2M up when I saw another guy get 50M down and 40M up in the same place.
Is there a way to check the frequencies with a "secret" keypad code like in my old SGS2, I fiddled with that and got better speeds?
and another thing, is everything with Flash now out of the picture?
Read something that the last version was for Android 4.0, I tried that but firefox just hangs,
Basher_52 said:
Hi.
I installed the Echoe_Illusion rom some days ago and I like it
The bad part is that I don't seem to get 4G on it and the network I'm using and the place I'm in sure should have it.
I'm in Sweden and the build number is: Echoe_Illusion_KOT49H.G900fFXXU1ANCE.
Baseband: G900FXXU1ANC9
I'm starting to think that something is wrong with that baseband and my geographic placement, can I test it somehow, cos a test just gives me
about 25M down and 2M up when I saw another guy get 50M down and 40M up in the same place.
Is there a way to check the frequencies with a "secret" keypad code like in my old SGS2, I fiddled with that and got better speeds?
and another thing, is everything with Flash now out of the picture?
Read something that the last version was for Android 4.0, I tried that but firefox just hangs,
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might be better to ask this question in the echoe rom thread
ex-28 said:
might be better to ask this question in the echoe rom thread
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Yeah, thought so too but I have less then 10 post count so I can't post in there...
I'm not a spammer as you guys are, lmao
Basher_52 said:
Yeah, thought so too but I have less then 10 post count so I can't post in there...
I'm not a spammer as you guys are, lmao
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Double check the APN and make sure it's correct for your provider's LTE network.
Basher_52 said:
Yeah, thought so too but I have less then 10 post count so I can't post in there...
I'm not a spammer as you guys are, lmao
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ok understand now , just a few more and you can make it.
jawmail said:
Double check the APN and make sure it's correct for your provider's LTE network.
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I have, several times although they don't have all the information the phone needs.
Tried to fiddle with it with the result of no network at all.
Basher_52 said:
Hi.
Is there a way to check the frequencies with a "secret" keypad code like in my old SGS2, I fiddled with that and got better speeds?
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You don't need any key for check frequency in Europe almost every privider use same frequency
Band 20 (800MHz)
Band 3 (1800 MHz)
Band 7 (2600 MHz)
Hutchison 3 Sweden 800 20 FDD
Hutchison 3 Sweden 2600 7 FDD
Hutchison 3 Sweden 2600 38 TDD
Net4Mobility Sweden 800 20 FDD
Net4Mobility Sweden 2600 7 FDD
Telia Sweden 800 20 FDD
Telia Sweden 1800 3 FDD
Telia Sweden 2600 7 FDD
If you want to know if your sim actually is working with an 3G or 4G network i use a simple apps called Open Signal
Open signal tell you what signal your SIM is working and also the cell number and position where it is connected
If give to you UMTS (3g) mean your SIM / Phone are not able to recognize LTE signal
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ramsesxv said:
You don't need any key for check frequency in Europe almost every privider use same frequency
Band 20 (800MHz)
Band 3 (1800 MHz)
Band 7 (2600 MHz)
Hutchison 3 Sweden 800 20 FDD
Hutchison 3 Sweden 2600 7 FDD
Hutchison 3 Sweden 2600 38 TDD
Net4Mobility Sweden 800 20 FDD
Net4Mobility Sweden 2600 7 FDD
Telia Sweden 800 20 FDD
Telia Sweden 1800 3 FDD
Telia Sweden 2600 7 FDD
If you want to know if your sim actually is working with an 3G or 4G network i use a simple apps called Open Signal
Open signal tell you what signal your SIM is working and also the cell number and position where it is connected
If give to you UMTS (3g) mean your SIM / Phone are not able to recognize LTE signal
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thx, I'm gonna test that one
bbl with and answer....
Hi
I have problems with my mibile broadband and they could not fix it so the wanted me to send my modem to them and it was nothing wrong with it and the r*tards then said that I needed to test another modem to see if the on I have now is broken?????
Anywho, my speeds is 60 % of the time at 10-30 mbit%s 39.99999% ut's under 3 mbit/s so it's useless and every other full moon it's pumping out +60 mbit/s.
The best speeds in Sweden from Telenor is on band 7 so is it possible to lock the G" so it only uses that band, and if so, how?
Sorry for my s*itty english...
Thanks.