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Confused on rooting

First off sorry if I have missed something but I have been doing some reading but am slightly confused.
I am looking at a Verizon Note 3 on ebay to keep unlimited data since I just sold my Note 2 which was rooted and running a custom rom which is kinda a must for me. Where I am confused is I see tutorials on how to root the note 3 but I also see a petition to have verizon unlock the bootloader. When I hear locked bootloader I think no rooting and custom roms. So did verizon just recently lock the note 3 down like they did with the note 2 4.3 update? Sorry if this is a stupid question.
Basically I just want to be able to root my Note 3 but am not worried about voiding any warranties with verizon since I'm buying it on ebay or something. Feel free to post links to this answer since I'm not opposed to reading just kinda overwhelmed right now.
Thanks for answering my stupid question and have a great weekend!!!

Read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543386
Everything you need to know
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ContractorDude said:
Read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543386
Everything you need to know
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Ok so it looks like I should be able to root it no problem. Whats big deal with the locked bootloader then?
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Only TW custom roms, no AOSP or custom kernels
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ContractorDude said:
Only TW custom roms, no AOSP or custom kernels
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Ahhhh ok thank you for the quick response!!!
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The Custom Roms are awesome though. Still loving this phone
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ContractorDude said:
The Custom Roms are awesome though. Still loving this phone
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Oh I don't doubt it for a second!! That's why I was confused saw plenty of custom ROMs but didn't really pay attention to tw or not. Not really an issue since I've been having crazy battery draining issues on everything I put 4.4.2 on. Haven't done my research but I'm sure it won't be long till 4.4 tw hits the note 3 anyways.
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Ya, Sprints already getting it.
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What is "locked" on the retail device is the recovery and boot partitions. They are crypto-signed and verified early in the boot sequence. Until the phone is hacked, it means it is impossible to boot a non-Samsung kernel or non-Samsung recovery. Even if you intentionally blow the Warranty flag on the phone, this behavior will not change.
So, while you can root, whatever "ROM" you want to try and use must play nice with a STOCK kernel (& ramdisk). So, no CM for example.
Also - because of "version upgrade locking", if you upgrade a stock kernel (let's say MJ7 -> MJE), you might not be able to use Nandroid restores of previous ROMs you formerly used any longer... depending on how tightly the ROM depends on kernel & ramdisk behaviors.
And one more thing - the Safestrap "psuedo-recovery" actually boots the beginning of a stock ROM (or whatever you have in the "stock slot"). One consequence of this is that you no longer have a separately bootable recovery to fix up mistakes or restore backups from. If you wedge the primary OS somehow, the consequence of that will be a loss of all data on the phone which is not backed up, and a trip to Odin to restore a pure stock firmware ... and starting all over from square 1.
(If you buy a Note 3, you might want to consider a BIG removable SD card - then you will have room for media/backups/etc that is not vulnerable to an Odin flash)
So basically, you have a limited form of rooting available.
More info here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49758703&postcount=5

recovery failed multiple times

Hello xda community.
i just purchased a galaxy s4 from a friend he he updated it to kitkat 4.4.2. i rooted itbut im having an issue installing a custom recovery. i tried the cmd method, the twrp apps on the market but although it says succesfull when i try to reboot into recovery it goes onto download mode. Someone please help me. i know samsung has a security system for the boatloader and i dont care tripping the securty system because im not with at&t nor on contract.
please help me i want to flash cm11 so bad.

androidfine16 said:
Hello xda community.
i just purchased a galaxy s4 from a friend he he updated it to kitkat 4.4.2. i rooted itbut im having an issue installing a custom recovery. i tried the cmd method, the twrp apps on the market but although it says succesfull when i try to reboot into recovery it goes onto download mode. Someone please help me. i know samsung has a security system for the boatloader and i dont care tripping the securty system because im not with at&t nor on contract.
please help me i want to flash cm11 so bad.
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Try this one. It's what I use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427125

Apoplectic1 said:
Try this one. It's what I use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2427125
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I've seen that but I heard/read if you mess up that's it for your phone. Plus toy never truly have a Susie stable recovery. Seems like a lot of risk
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androidfine16 said:
I've seen that but I heard/read if you mess up that's it for your phone. Plus toy never truly have a Susie stable recovery. Seems like a lot of risk
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I can't say I have ever heard of anyone messing up the installation process before. It's load the apk to your SD card, install it to your phone and then tapping the install button once you open it. That's it.
As long as your root method installs busybox and your SU app disables Knox, you should be fine.

androidfine16 said:
Hello xda community.
i just purchased a galaxy s4 from a friend he he updated it to kitkat 4.4.2. i rooted itbut im having an issue installing a custom recovery. i tried the cmd method, the twrp apps on the market but although it says succesfull when i try to reboot into recovery it goes onto download mode. Someone please help me. i know samsung has a security system for the boatloader and i dont care tripping the securty system because im not with at&t nor on contract.
please help me i want to flash cm11 so bad.
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Trying to load a custom recovery on a locked bootloader could mess up your phone. Safestrap was made for our phones. Read up a bit you'll see we can't do normal custom recoveries and we can't flash normal roms cause we're locked. Only thing we can do is root and safe strap. I'll suggest odin nb1 update to nc1 root. The reason I say odin to nb1 is because right now you don't have a recovery at all due to you trying to install cwm or twrp.
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Apoplectic1 said:
I can't say I have ever heard of anyone messing up the installation process before. It's load the apk to your SD card, install it to your phone and then tapping the install button once you open it. That's it.
As long as your root method installs busybox and your SU app disables Knox, you should be fine.
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So I'll be able to install cm 11. Without any complications?
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I don't have a current recovery. Your right about that . How do I fix it
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androidfine16 said:
So I'll be able to install cm 11. Without any complications?
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Do you have an AT&T S4? If so then no. It will not load if you try. Until someone figures how to crack the locked bootloader, we are stuck with ROMs that use stock Samsung (you'll also hear them referred to as TouchWiz or TW) kernels. I believe CM uses their own custom one.
I am able to use the Google Edition one because a user modified it to work on aTouchWiz kernel, and even then things like USB file transfer does not work.
I do not believe anyone has done the same for CM.

androidfine16 said:
I don't have a current recovery. Your right about that . How do I fix it
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You need to odin nb1 (flash back to stock) this will put your recovery back.
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Apoplectic1 said:
Do you have an AT&T S4? If so then no. It will not load if you try. Until someone figures how to crack the locked bootloader, we are stuck with ROMs that use stock Samsung (you'll also hear them referred to as TouchWiz or TW) kernels. I believe CM uses their own custom one.
I am able to use the Google Edition one because a user modified it to work on aTouchWiz kernel, and even then things like USB file transfer does not work.
I do not believe anyone has done the same for CM.
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Yes I have the at& t s4. And that sucks I was really looking forward to flashing cm 11s. I don't care for the knox being ticked off being that I'm on no contract. Do you think I can use Odin or something to revert back to 4.2 safely without bricking the device. I hate touch wiz. And the battery drains quickly plus the phone gets hot when used for a while
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drock212 said:
You need to odin nb1 (flash back to stock) this will put your recovery back.
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Won't this look the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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androidfine16 said:
Won't this lock the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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androidfine16 said:
Won't this look the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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Odining back to NB1 will not trip Knox. Also, I believe downgrading to 4.2 will not touch your bootloader, if it were that easy we'd all be rocking CM.
You could run this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2767026
Its technically not a TW ROM, but it has its quirks. It was never intended to work on locked bootloader phones, but it has been retrofitted on to them.
Wrote this if you would like a guide on how I got 4.4.4 version up and running, it's kind of tricky.

androidfine16 said:
Won't this look the bootloader cause I read downgrades are practically unsafe on this device. If not than I'd much rather go back to 4.2 so I can load a custom recovery being that u don't mind tripping knox. So long that it doesn't Brick or render the phone use less
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Nb1 and nc1 are the same. Nb1 is just a small update over nb1, there isn't even a tar file for nc1 because it's such a small update. You won't be able to odin back to anything prior to nb1 unfortunately without bricking. Now I do understand the hatred of touchwiz but once you're rooted you're able to delete a lot of the garbage bloatware put on by Samsung and AT&T. This makes the phone so much better along with super long battery life. I've been able to get 4.5 hours of on screen time and about 16 - 17 hours of off the plug time like this.
When deleting bloat you can easily Google and find lists of what people have deleted off their phones using titanium backup (amazing app, let's your freeze or delete what you don't want). Also one thing I found out which is dumb. Deleting Samsung hub breaks auto rotation (what one has to do with the other I'll never know) but you can download the file needed to fix that here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51260826
I've had my touchwized sgs4 for about 3 weeks now and can say I'm not as upset with it as I thought I would be. Let me know if you have any questions about certain things. I've found a lot of workarounds and little edits here and there to get my phone a lot closer to how I want it.
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Are there people working in unlocking our bootloader because this thing is really annoying .
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Ps: No one answered my question. If I don't care for tripping the bootloader being that I'm on no contract. Is their a way to trip the flash counter and get on a recovery? I don't care for Samsung security knox or their bootloader security.
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androidfine16 said:
Ps: No one answered my question. If I don't care for tripping the bootloader being that I'm on no contract. Is their a way to trip the flash counter and get on a recovery? I don't care for Samsung security knox or their bootloader security.
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Nope. Bootloader and knox are completely different. Knox will just give annoying messages once tripped. Bootloader without unlock we're pretty much dead in the water. There has been some talk about ways to possibly unlock the bootloader so it's definitely being worked on. I've also read that the black hat even (hackers convention) might have something promising. Also anything that is done on the s5 could very well apply to the s4. It's all just a matter of time
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drock212 said:
Nope. Bootloader and knox are completely different. Knox will just give annoying messages once tripped. Bootloader without unlock we're pretty much dead in the water. There has been some talk about ways to possibly unlock the bootloader so it's definitely being worked on. I've also read that the black hat even (hackers convention) might have something promising. Also anything that is done on the s5 could very well apply to the s4. It's all just a matter of time
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Sounds great that the s5 and s4 integrate . Also there's a bunch of stuff online which shows how to disable certain aspects of the bootloader using linux (Ubuntu) . Do you think that'll work. It's a huge risk.
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androidfine16 said:
Sounds great that the s5 and s4 integrate . Also there's a bunch of stuff online which shows how to disable certain aspects of the bootloader using linux (Ubuntu) . Do you think that'll work. It's a huge risk.
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If it hasn't been done to give us anything I wouldn't do it. Only thing we have right now is safestrap. Which is similar to a dual boot
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drock212 said:
If it hasn't been done to give us anything I wouldn't do it. Only thing we have right now is safestrap. Which is similar to a dual boot
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Similar to dual boot but can't load any rom you want on it
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[Q] New in Rooting and install Custom Roms - SM -G900H

Its been long time,
Still waiting for official lolipop update,
There is no info about it.
Now I'm thinking to root and wana enjoy the customization in custom roms.
I have some question about safety
Yea I know I will lose warranty,
I did root my last s3 I enjoyed lot.
But in s3 there was way to relock boot loader,
Is its same as s5?
I mean
Q.1 is there any way to get warranty or relock?
Q.2 In case any hardware problem will Samsung service center will detect warranty info or something?
Q.3 I mainly installing custom rom because Im stock lover, is cynogen mod completely work? Also on screen button there?
Have more question but not in mind at that time.
I would be much thank you if you help me..
Thanks in advance..
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Bros?
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Losing root in lollipop

Hello all,
I've had my nexus 4 ever since it came out and never faced this problem. Apparently, flashing any Lollipop ROM other than CM12.1 causes me to lose root. I would install SuperSU and whenever root access is required, it would prompt me, but no access is gained.
Any idea how to fix this? I want to use AOSP roms too!
Thanks.

Anyone?
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MisT. said:
Hello all,
I've had my nexus 4 ever since it came out and never faced this problem. Apparently, flashing any Lollipop ROM other than CM12.1 causes me to lose root. I would install SuperSU and whenever root access is required, it would prompt me, but no access is gained.
Any idea how to fix this? I want to use AOSP roms too!
Thanks.
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When you flash new Rom's, do you do a clean or dirty flash. Do you use a custom kernel?

Thanks for replying. Clean,, always clean flashing. And no I don't use any custom kernels; tho I've tried using them to see if I get root access and it didn't work.
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MisT. said:
Thanks for replying. Clean,, always clean flashing. And no I don't use any custom kernels; tho I've tried using them to see if I get root access and it didn't work.
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What about if you flash a ROM based on CM? Does that work? If not you could try flashing a factory image and start from scratch. Rooting and stuff again.

CM based ROMs work most of the time. I'll try doing the factory image thing. Do u recommend I try anything else?
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CM based ROMs work most of the time. I'll try doing the factory image thing. Do u recommend I try anything else?
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I can't really think of anything but it is possible some of the more knowledgeable members here at xda have som other suggestions.

This seems like a really strange problem with a clean flash with SuperSU. The only thing I can think of is that root access is being granted too slowly. Have you tried any of the ROM's built-in root apps?

Wait for 6.0 or root?

Hello everyone i just have a question whether should i root my N910F now or wait until the android 6.0 will be released in OTA ( i prefer OTA because i dont lose my data)
Should i root my n910f now and upgrade to 6.0 via Odin later? My phone now with the latest update on 5.1.1 is awesome the battery life is amazing and the performance also i dont need anything else atm.
The main reason i want to root is the emojis, i want the newest ios emojis using the emoji switcher from play store ( is this one fully working?, with the newest emojis and skins?)
I am not in a rush for rooting my phone and also emojis is not the only reason i want to root it. Once im rooted ill find more things to do but im also fine beeing stock , but sometimes hate it when i dont have the emojis.
What do you think? Is it worth it rooting now?
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Please help me in rooting smartfreen c3si.
Please help me ?

rayhan29 said:
Please help me in rooting smartfreen c3si.
Please help me ?
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Offtopic?
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