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Well our snapdragon s4 is now considered "old" which is a bummer! Had to happen at some point tho I suppose. So how does this new chip compare? Does anyone know what's been improved?
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fredcorp6 said:
Well our snapdragon s4 is now considered "old" which is a bummer! Had to happen at some point tho I suppose. So how does this new chip compare? Does anyone know what's been improved?
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The S4 Pro and the Snapdragon 600 are basically the same chip. The model number is almost identical (APQ8064 vs APQ8064T; the Plus, Prime, and 800 all have very different model numbers), same fab process at 28 nm, same L0, L1, and L2 caches, same GPU. The difference is higher clock speed (max 1.7 vs max 1.9 GHz), and potentially a faster/bigger memory channel.
By no means does the S4 Pro instantly become antiquated. Between it and the 600, they're more similar than they are different. The 800 is a different story...
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The S4 Pro and the Snapdragon 600 are basically the same chip. The model number is almost identical (APQ8064 vs APQ8064T; the Plus, Prime, and 800 all have very different model numbers), same fab process at 28 nm, same L0, L1, and L2 caches, same GPU. The difference is higher clock speed (max 1.7 vs max 1.9 GHz), and potentially a faster/bigger memory channel.
By no means does the S4 Pro instantly become antiquated. Between it and the 600, they're more similar than they are different. The 800 is a different story...
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I didn't think there was a big difference either between the 2, however the HTC one with the S600 is getting like 12000 on quadrant compared to the 5000 we get?
How do u explain that? I guess it could just be that quadrant isn't really optimised for our phones and is not giving accurate results.
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fredcorp6 said:
Well our snapdragon s4 is now considered "old" which is a bummer! Had to happen at some point tho I suppose. So how does this new chip compare? Does anyone know what's been improved?
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From anandtech:
[snapdragon 600] "This is quad core Krait 300 (as opposed to 200 in MSM8960 or APQ8064) which brings a 15 percent increase in IPC as well as higher clocks (from 1.5 to 1.7 GHz), for about 20–30 percent higher overall CPU performance"
20 - 30% So significant but not huge.
fredcorp6 said:
I didn't think there was a big difference either between the 2, however the HTC one with the S600 is getting like 12000 on quadrant compared to the 5000 we get?
How do u explain that? I guess it could just be that quadrant isn't really optimised for our phones and is not giving accurate results.
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I read on snapdragon s4 pro and compare it with spec of snapdragon 600 "the only" difference i got is memory technology, s4pro uses 533MHz LPDDR2 and 600 uses LPDDR3
Edit: our phone not made for benchmark, i read somewhere on google+ someone wrote about it.
Btw nexus is always behind in terms of benchmarking, but if you compare the smoothness even galaxy nexus is still so smooth.
Here is the link https://plus.google.com/u/0/101093310520661581786/posts/Q1yVmqtubG9 its exynos4 saga by one of exynos cm maintainer, but he give a reason why our benchmark not as good as optimus G.
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Why do people care so much about benchmark scores? Does it really matter? The only test that should matter is your eyeball.
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Exodian said:
Why do people care so much about benchmark scores? Does it really matter? The only test that should matter is your eyeball.
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+1 Please
Exodian said:
Why do people care so much about benchmark scores? Does it really matter? The only test that should matter is your eyeball.
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Well because sometimes its a good way of comparing the performance of 2 phones - unfortunately not the case with a nexus I've just learned. Eyeball is very subjective, benchmarks are not (well they shouldn't be!).
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lol @ benchmarks please welcome to technology soon as you bought the phone it was considered OLD !
But it is great to have both real smooth and high score benchmark
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S4 Pro is still quick and i can see it being developed in devices for another 2+ years. i would safely assume low end tablets would also start using it when the price of these chips are reduced
Never cared about benchmarks, Even with the PCs I build. I over clock my pcs as much as possible for REAL WORLD usage and as long as they allow me to do everything I want and more and visually everything looks and feels fine and is stable, I'm good to go. Same applies with these phones. The nexus has top of the line internals and stock android allows this phone to be the way it was meant to. Now I have flashed asylum which is awesome, and I have used just about every kernel. I do notice differences in kernels “cough, matrix is the best, cough", but the differences are “seat of the pants" which is a curse in my opinion. Benchmarking stresses components, and at the price of these things why take a chance of shortening its life.
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tuilalnvinh said:
But it is great to have both real smooth and high score benchmark
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benchmarks = just numbers if your phone feels right looks right this is all you need
CheesyNutz said:
benchmarks = just numbers if your phone feels right looks right this is all you need
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That is my point right there.
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CheesyNutz said:
benchmarks = just numbers if your phone feels right looks right this is all you need
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My G2x used to get pretty high benchmarks... I hated that phone.
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Benchmarks do tell a part of the story. You can't say that a phone that scores barely 1000 on benchmarks is as fast as a phone that scores 5000. The numbers might fluctuate a little but you get the idea. Nexus4 scores pretty good on optimised benchmarks like antutu but doesn't score good on benchmark apps that haven't been updated for two years like quadrant.
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Benchmarks do tell a part of the story. You can't say that a phone that scores barely 1000 on benchmarks is as fast as a phone that scores 5000. The numbers might fluctuate a little but you get the idea. Nexus4 scores pretty good on optimised benchmarks like antutu but doesn't score good on benchmark apps that haven't been updated for two years like quadrant.
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Yeah its my understanding that quadrant is also really easy to spoof
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AW: Snapdragon 600 vs Snapdragon S4 Pro
So far I can see only devices with Android 4.1, or less, score pretty high with Krait cores. We havn't any other phone with 4.2 and snapdragon CPU to compare fairly.
The dual core S3 in my Xperia S doesn't feel any difference to the quad core S4 Pro in my Nexus 4 in every day use so i aint going to lose any sleep.
The number I heard thrown around was 40% faster on paper, or theoretically. Real world applications that may translate to less but still somewhat significant depending on your use case.
The kicker is it seems to still be the Adreno 320, is that higher clocked than the S4 Pro? If not it's pushing more pixels in the HTC One.
Hey guys. I have a Verizon Note 3. Just bought the SanDisk Extreme 64 GB microSDXC Class 10 UHS-I Memory Card (SDSDQX-064G-AFFP-A) and received it from Amazon. I've used the SanDisk Memory Zone App and it's speed test is saying the read spead is about 30 MB/s. Additionally, I've used the A1 SD Bench app and the results for the Accurate with reboot results are worse. 21.61 MB/s! I put the SD card in and reformatted it in the Note 3. Everything is stock, no root. The claimed max read speed with the card, according to SanDisk, is 80 MB/s. I've even heard some people getting almost 100 MB/s with these cards. What gives? Any suggestions on how to increase the performance? BTW, the card is still blank and I haven't added any files from my old card on to the new one. Thanks!
I would like more info about this also. I am between 64GB Ultra and Extreme...
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The note 3 doesn't support UHS-1 so you wont get anywhere near the advertised speeds.
Is it a hardware or software thing?
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darn336 said:
The note 3 doesn't support UHS-1 so you wont get anywhere near the advertised speeds.
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This is the answer to OP's Question.
Yeah, I too suffer with the same problem and painfully found out that the Card Reader (In our Case the Mobile) should support handling that card as well. My GoPro Hero 3 Supports this flawlessly.
So, our device is high end. But it doesn't support this. What phones do? HTC?
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i found this video of comparison of redmi note 2 and PRIME version. There is about 2000 difference in Antutu.
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it is roughly 47000 vs 50000, but you won't notice the difference at all.
It's 200MHz faster, in other words 10% more.
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16 gb 550 mhz GPU/mtk 6795M 2,0 ghz VS 32 gb 700 mhz GPU/mtk 6795 T 2,2 ghz
I'm finding the 32GB of storage very useful
You can go down to 1430MHz and GPU to 400MHz = any game work fine. Like Ouzo sad, it's about the 32GB. With 128GB sd you got more than enough
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with which app have you make the 1430MHz/400Mhz settings ?
Bought the 2.2ghz/32gb variant
Hi guys, I bought the "prime" variant off of Chinese e-commerce site, JD.com, which is supposed to be one of the most reliable e-commerce platforms here (unlike taobao). The phone's About page and other places list the hardware that I expect to be there, but nowhere is the word "Prime" included in the model name. And also suspicious, the Model Number is listed simply as Redmi Note 2. These two things together begin to make me doubt this is the real deal, and not some equally priced knock off. All the Mi apps work, including xiaomi account creation and cloud storage and so on. Does anyone have a Redmi Note 2 they know is the prime variant and legitimate, who can confirm this is normal for the info in the About Phone page?
Thanks!
I've got a prime, mine doesn't say anything about it.
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redmi note 2 prime
Prime version is not written under the phone name. Just check storage and processor (CPU) under the settings- about phone- and if you see 32 gb-2,2Ghz, you have prime version. If you don't bolive that just install antutu and check your hardware.
Using both the Redmi Note 2 and the Prime. What I would say is that 10% is different in processing power, feels the same. The good part is that you more storage for Prime topping up another 12 bucks or so, which is a bargain. Antutu result was almost the same for me or worst depending on the ROM installed.
Attached is my Antutu results. The Prime results on Geekbench 3 looks more impressive than Honor 7 results but not the on the Antutu.
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~ Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime ~
how big is the difference between gpu. 550vs700 hears a lot. any gpu benchmarks (not antutu). i want this phone mostly for gaming.
GPU results
GFX OpenGL, BaseMark X results & BaseMark OSII
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GFX OpenGL, BaseMark X results & BaseMark OSII
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thx for answer. for what version is this benchmark?
I bought Prime because it has 32GB ROM. That's a big help even with SD slot. But I would say from day to day usage perspective they are not much different in performance.
Any I am using Redmi Note 2 Prime, but will be doing the benchmark Redmi Note 3 next week. All the benchmark used is current and downloaded thru the playstore.
im still bugged with this question. so how big is fps difference in popular games between 6795 and 6795t. becouse 23fps is big difference to 30fps if it scale with 550 to 700.
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i found this video of comparison of redmi note 2 and PRIME version. There is about 2000 difference in Antutu.
youtu.be/s3yzJUi4Gls
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Klanac89 said:
It's 200MHz faster, in other words 10% more.
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It's 1600 MHz (200 MHz x 8 cores) faster really, but 10% more same.
Hi,
Im looking to buy a new phone but im worried which to choose lg g4 h818 (no bootloader) or the oneplus 2 (chinese variant) btw i live in KSA.
Lg g4 pros:
Curved QHD screen
Removable battery
Leather back
Awesome camera
Cons:
No bootloader unlock
No fingerprint
3gb ram rather than 4 gb
Oneplus 2
Pros:
4gb ram
Fingerprint sensor
Loads of roms
Cons:
Chinese version
Full hd screen rather than qhd
Has been rumored of heating issues
Pls help me out
Well you seem to know both pro's and con's of both these devices... Now it's entirely up to you to decide which one will suit you better
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I was between the same devices.
I choose the op2 because of this:
-Full HD screen : more battery and less GPU demanding
-SoC: 810 vs 808. That means ram lpddr3 vs lpddr4, adreno 418 (qHD) vs adreno 430 (FHD).
About heating, because of the rumors oneplus throttle the devices too fast, if you edited the thermal file with boeffla kernel you could have awesome performance, for more info about throttle pm me.
-Fingerprint.
-XDA community, not too much for no but it will grow up. Oneplus is contacting devs from XDA, that must be a good thing [emoji4] .
-Capacitive buttons, so it does not take space from the screen
-Alert slider is useful, but lg g4 volume buttons are very nice too.
-4gb vs 3gb, its not a real life difference but maybe it will be.
EDIT:- Better battery life. 3300mah vs 3000mah, also fhd vs qhd must make a difference.
About nfc, for almost 2 years i never use it on my nexus 5, so its not a problem for me.
Happy new year! Hope you can make the best decision, cheers.
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Best stock experience g4
If you're not afraid of tweaking then go for op2
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I sent an LGG4 back and bought a Oneplus Two and although the LG was a nice enough phone battery life was abysmal and don't worry about Qhd v Fhd I actually preferred the Fhd and you get much better battery life
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I am an owner of note 5 64gb. I overall satisfied by the phone. Amazing screen. Spen. Lots of space. The cons is. Since the begging i came across with mobile network connectivity issues. Not all the tíme but from time to time. And i miss calls. Also after install nougat i see total battery drain especially with mobile data on. In a possible search of a new phone and to my budget limits is lg g6. 2017 flagship phone. Awsome screen. Amazing camera(s). Good handling. Should i swap my note 5 with the lg? My only concern is the screen. I am a user of Samsung super amoled screen the past 8 years so I don't know how the lcd would be.
Any help? Anyone who owned an Samsung amoled phone that jumped to lg g6. Is there any noticeable difference in the eye?
Yes, U should ! Got note 3, note 4, s6, s7, now g6 and camera is just far better, battery life is same as s7, display qualty is good to, no big diff iin eye
Is there a solution for handwriting like spen on other phones? Or even a good app? Note 4 was awsome (i had owned), note 5 cpu exynos is a beast! How 821 responds? (4 corea right?)
I don't know, really. Never used SPEN even when I had it
Yes, but just with 64 gb + quad dac/wireless charging model
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SD821 is far superior to your Exynos 7420. Don't worry about the amount of cores because our Kryo CPU is a lot faster than your A57 cores.
About GPU don't worry too. Our Adreno 530 is twice as fast as your Mali-T760MP8
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Yes, but just with 64 gb + quad dac/wireless charging model
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It's the 32gb model i want to buy. LG G6 H870 32GB
I am a little bit confused. Does lg g6 h870 32gb support dlna and wireless charging? What's the difference at quad dac as you mentioned.
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I am a little bit confused. Does lg g6 h870 32gb support dlna and wireless charging? What's the difference at quad dac as you mentioned.
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Lg h870 is the basic G6 version, it doesn't have wireless charging and quad dac
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simo14 said:
Yes, but just with 64 gb + quad dac/wireless charging model
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EvilHowl said:
SD821 is far superior to your Exynos 7420. Don't worry about the amount of cores because our Kryo CPU is a lot faster than your A57 cores.
About GPU don't worry too. Our Adreno 530 is twice as fast as your Mali-T760MP8
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I don't know much technical stuff man! But the note 5 for a 2015 phone is still a beast and even always on power saving.