I am about to root my Samsung Galaxy S5 and found out about FlashFire to flash updates while keeping root. I understood I will still get notifications of OTA updates, which I have to download and then flash using FlashFire. My question is: are the monthly security updates/the Android security patch level updates delivered in this way?
Thanks in advance
SkyeSkye said:
I am about to root my Samsung Galaxy S5 and found out about FlashFire to flash updates while keeping root. I understood I will still get notifications of OTA updates, which I have to download and then flash using FlashFire. My question is: are the monthly security updates/the Android security patch level updates delivered in this way?
Thanks in advance
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Yes, all of the security updates for android require a system update, which can only be performed via OTA updates.
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Emilml said:
Yes, all of the security updates for android require a system update, which can only be performed via OTA updates.
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So even if i install the latest firmware samsung S5+ (SM-G901F) trough FFire, i still can not have the security_patches installed because i am rooted and having TWRP+Xposed?
(i can not get OTA, have to download from sammobile updates)
There is no possible way to get the security patches as a download or zip or TAR - file?
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andreoide said:
So even if i install the latest firmware samsung S5+ (SM-G901F) trough FFire, i still can not have the security_patches installed because i am rooted and having TWRP+Xposed?
(i can not get OTA, have to download from sammobile updates)
There is no possible way to get the security patches as a download or zip or TAR - file?
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Update
For some reason FF does not install the fw trough option Firmware, (logfile Flasfire says something on the end like " no space left on device" like that) ... so I flashed the sammobile_firmware trough odin without wipe first. I re_flashed twrp and in there flashed chainfire root again and ended up with latest fw AND security patch Sept 1st.
All apps and Xposed etc working unchanged like before.
There we go [emoji16] [emoji6] [emoji111]
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Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
Thanks!
gnoted said:
Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
Thanks!
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I think no.It may receive,but it'd fail to install.
GamingDj said:
I think no.It may receive,but it'd fail to install.
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If it does install you will loose root... But I believe if the system is found to be custom in any way it will fail on install of OTA or will actually tell you that the phone has been modified and no updates available for you
ultramag69 said:
If it does install you will loose root... But I believe if the system is found to be custom in any way it will fail on install of OTA or will actually tell you that the phone has been modified and no updates available for you
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Thanks for the reply. Just out of curiosity about the HTC Desire HD that has since been given to a less tech-savvy relative, is there a way to unroot so the OTA update will work??
I rooted my N3 3 days after buying and then tried to get an OTA update. It didn't download first, as my phone was set to custom. After using Wanam's setting to "reset" the custom status, I could download the OTA update but couldn't install it.
Basically, with root you can still check if there's an official update available, but you can't install.
Mikegrmn said:
I rooted my N3 3 days after buying and then tried to get an OTA update. It didn't download first, as my phone was set to custom. After using Wanam's setting to "reset" the custom status, I could download the OTA update but couldn't install it.
Basically, with root you can still check if there's an official update available, but you can't install.
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Anyone know how it actually tells if the phone has been rooted? Surely there's a way to reset it to unrooted/non-custom state so OTA updates work again...
gnoted said:
Anyone know how it actually tells if the phone has been rooted? Surely there's a way to reset it to unrooted/non-custom state so OTA updates work again...
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The boot loader and the os itself scan for certain things such as modified kernel/recovery or installation of busy box.
The Samsung's aren't so bad, you can just flash back the stock rom and factory reset to start getting ota updates again. On htc phones you have to unlock the boot loader to root and its a one way process. Once unlocked you can never get ota updates again.
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i have the same problem here, i would like to update MK2 but i cant.
used wanam exposed for fake > failed @ installation.
do i have to unroot or factory reset for update?
i dont want to install a cwm at the moment.
thx
Once you have rooted, the system partition has been modified so Samsung doesnot allow you to OTA update. It checks MD5hash for the consistency. Factory reset doesn't help because it only format userdata partition.
If you r rooted, better go to sammobile.com, download the latest firmware version, copy it to sdcard and flash via Mobile Odin Pro. This way you can keep the old bootloader so you can fallback (downgrade) to the older firmware later.
Thank you.
what is when i tripped the knox count?
Its 0x1 now. I was on new bootloader before.
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gnoted said:
Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
Thanks!
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OTA update works on rooted note 3. My Note 3 rooted and just yesterday it OTA update to MK2.
and see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519103
chemcup said:
OTA update works on rooted note 3. My Note 3 rooted and just yesterday it OTA update to MK2.
and see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519103
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I have tried the steps mentioned in that thread but it still wont let me OTA update.
Ive faked official status with wanam and still nothing.
vinokirk said:
I have tried the steps mentioned in that thread but it still wont let me OTA update.
Ive faked official status with wanam and still nothing.
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Ok you have to downlaod the original stock rom and flash with odin.
After that root it again. Everything fine now. knox trigger 0x1 at the moment.
BUFUMAN said:
Ok you have to downlaod the original stock rom and flash with odin.
After that root it again. Everything fine now. knox trigger 0x1 at the moment.
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I need to keep Knox at 0x0.
There must be a way of updating.
A couple of people have mentioned downloading from SamMobile and flashing back to stock. If I do this, what happens to twrp?
If twrp stays, I don't want it conflicting with a non-rooted phone (due to flashing stock) and being bricked
U can get upgrade with kiss not OTA but u must install wanamp exposed n change system into official. Its work on rooted stock rom.
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Just got my S5 and used towelroot as soon as I got it, went perfectly.
Now I updated some Samsung OTA updates and lost root. To make things worse, towelroot now says device not supported.
How can I get root back?
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b0ng0 said:
Now I updated some Samsung OTA updates and lost root. To make things worse, towelroot now says device not supported.
How can I get root back?:confused
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This has been asked and answered (a lot of times) before. So almost any forum search would have answered your questions.
Updates usually break root. So that is expected behaviour. If you value root, you should probably be blocking the OTA updater app. Ironically enough, the update your chose also blocks the Towel root exploit. You can use Odin to reinstall a pre June 3rd build of the correct stock firmware which remains amenable to Towel root.
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b0ng0 said:
Just got my S5 and used towelroot as soon as I got it, went perfectly.
Now I updated some Samsung OTA updates and lost root. To make things worse, towelroot now says device not supported.
How can I get root back?
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Or just flash the updated rom next time with Mobile Odin Pro and keep root Most S5`s are supported bij MOP.
fffft said:
This has been asked and answered (a lot of times) before. So almost any forum search would have answered your questions.
Updates usually break root. So that is expected behaviour. If you value root, you should probably be blocking the OTA updater app. Ironically enough, the update your chose also blocks the Towel root exploit. You can use Odin to reinstall a pre June 3rd build of the correct stock firmware which remains amenable to Towel root.
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Could I just do a factory reset and not update the firmware to keep root? Would that work?
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b0ng0 said:
Could I just do a factory reset and not update the firmware to keep root? Would that work?
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No. And I don't see a rationale for thinking that might be viable. A factory data reset wipes the /data partition i.e. user settings /apps. Whereas root is configured in the system files.
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gee2012 said:
Or just flash the updated rom next time with Mobile Odin Pro and keep root Most S5`s are supported bij MOP.
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I have the update available but I didn't flash yet because I want to keep root.
Is an unlocked bootloader required to use Mobil Odin Pro to flash the Latest update?
I have a VZW SM-G900V, Rooted, Stock OS, Locked Bootloader and no Custom Recovery installed.
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Please disregard this question: Mobil Odin Pro does not support the SM-G900V yet.
Ep://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347899[/url]
Also it should be noted that Mobil Odin Pro will not launch at all if the device is running with ART Runtime System enabled. It will only force crash with every attempt. It will launch with DALVIK Runtime System enabled however it will only post a message of incompatibility with only the option of creating a system dump file for the developer!
I'm confused, can someone explain to me if only Root cancelling the updates, I want to stay with rom stock but to do Root..
thanks in advance.
my device is note 4 n-910f
generally speaking, rooted phones do NOT get ota updates..
Yes rooting will prevent you from installing an ota updates. You would have to wait until either a flash able zip of the ota is made or a custom ROM is made that includes the ota update.
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mooshon said:
I'm confused, can someone explain to me if only Root cancelling the updates, I want to stay with rom stock but to do Root..
thanks in advance.
my device is note 4 n-910f
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Yes once rooted you will not be able to OTA update.
But you can always update to the latest firmware using Odin.
Open Phone INFO ★Samsung★ app > Menu > 'Firmware Browser' to download stock firmware for your device and flash via Odin.
Should be able to update from KIES but root may go.
Note 4
You can update from Kies and then re-root
What's going to happen to my SM-G900I thats got root (running stock) when it receives the marshmallow update. Sorry for the simple question. Thanks
marshmallow update
Hey there! your root will probably be lost if you accept the OTA (over the air) marshmallow. My best advice to you is this:
1. DON'T accept the update. (caps lock for emphasis only). You, as the subscriber, can only accept the update. The carrier can't "force update' your phone without your permission.
2. wait until a dev "captures" the update and "injects" the root (if available) in the marshmallow stock rom.
3. as a rooted user myself, exercise your due patience and wait it out. don't *ask* for ETA from a dev -- it's mean. =)
I hope this helps. =)
You won't get OTA updates if you're rooted, you'll have to update manually then root again
sameog said:
Hey there! your root will probably be lost if you accept the OTA (over the air) marshmallow. My best advice to you is this:
1. DON'T accept the update. (caps lock for emphasis only). You, as the subscriber, can only accept the update. The carrier can't "force update' your phone without your permission.
2. wait until a dev "captures" the update and "injects" the root (if available) in the marshmallow stock rom.
3. as a rooted user myself, exercise your due patience and wait it out. don't *ask* for ETA from a dev -- it's mean. =)
I hope this helps. =)
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Okay thanks so pretty much wait until someone figures out how to root mm then update and root?
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You won't get OTA updates if you're rooted, you'll have to update manually then root again
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So I will have to do a full unroot to get the update normally, and would manually updating just be flashing the stock mm rom?
devondale16 said:
So I will have to do a full unroot to get the update normally, and would manually updating just be flashing the stock mm rom?
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Full unroot doesn't seem to revert the device "Custom" status, which is what stops the OTA, to "Official" which is the status needed for OTA
The only way to return the device to Official is to flash a stock ROM with ODIN, that will unroot you and return the device to Official and OTA will work
And yes, Flashing manually is flashing a stock ROM with ODIN
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Full unroot doesn't seem to revert the device "Custom" status, which is what stops the OTA, to "Official" which is the status needed for OTA
The only way to return the device to Official is to flash a stock ROM with ODIN, that will unroot you and return the device to Official and OTA will work
And yes, Flashing manually is flashing a stock ROM with ODIN
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Ohhh I understand now, thanks Durham. So I take it when I flash the new one with ODIN I will loose everything on my phone or can I do a dirty install and keep everything.
devondale16 said:
Ohhh I understand now, thanks Durham. So I take it when I flash the new one with ODIN I will loose everything on my phone or can I do a dirty install and keep everything.
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You only lose anything custom, like root or recovery, all your apps and files etc are safe
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You only lose anything custom, like root or recovery, all your apps and files etc are safe
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Do you have a link for this if it's been made?
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devondale16 said:
Do you have a link for this if it's been made?
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For what? Stock MM?
This one is modded for BTU United Kingdom for the G900F, been running it for a while now, great ROM
It will trip KNOX though if you haven't already
Code:
https://mega.nz/#!SMRlERrY!oeOX8W_4tbQbArTN-LzTKWJ1xi_8LLrN_ZoSg-Dzs1Q
I have a rooted Samsung Galaxy S7 on marshmallow PI3 and just got notification of an OTA update, which I assume is for Nougat. I thought I wouldn't get an OTA while rooted, but haven't attempted to download. Please confirm that I will need to un-root my device to get the update.
rtfelt said:
I have a rooted Samsung Galaxy S7 on marshmallow PI3 and just got notification of an OTA update, which I assume is for Nougat. I thought I wouldn't get an OTA while rooted, but haven't attempted to download. Please confirm that I will need to un-root my device to get the update.
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Even if the update does download, the update will most likely fail during the checking process. Your best bet is to flash Nougat with Odin, then re-root using the Nougat root kernel.
CVertigo1 said:
Even if the update does download, the update will most likely fail during the checking process. Your best bet is to flash Nougat with Odin, then re-root using the Nougat root kernel.
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There's not a problem flashing Nougat on a rooted phone?
rtfelt said:
There's not a problem flashing Nougat on a rooted phone?
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No, because the act of flashing through odin pretty much negates all that. You just have to root again and follow the guides to speed the system back up or go without root and choose an option like the debloat rom with near stock experience.