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Does a Rooted Note 3 get OTA Updates?

Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
Thanks!

gnoted said:
Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
Thanks!
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I think no.It may receive,but it'd fail to install.

GamingDj said:
I think no.It may receive,but it'd fail to install.
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If it does install you will loose root... But I believe if the system is found to be custom in any way it will fail on install of OTA or will actually tell you that the phone has been modified and no updates available for you

ultramag69 said:
If it does install you will loose root... But I believe if the system is found to be custom in any way it will fail on install of OTA or will actually tell you that the phone has been modified and no updates available for you
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Thanks for the reply. Just out of curiosity about the HTC Desire HD that has since been given to a less tech-savvy relative, is there a way to unroot so the OTA update will work??

I rooted my N3 3 days after buying and then tried to get an OTA update. It didn't download first, as my phone was set to custom. After using Wanam's setting to "reset" the custom status, I could download the OTA update but couldn't install it.
Basically, with root you can still check if there's an official update available, but you can't install.

Mikegrmn said:
I rooted my N3 3 days after buying and then tried to get an OTA update. It didn't download first, as my phone was set to custom. After using Wanam's setting to "reset" the custom status, I could download the OTA update but couldn't install it.
Basically, with root you can still check if there's an official update available, but you can't install.
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Anyone know how it actually tells if the phone has been rooted? Surely there's a way to reset it to unrooted/non-custom state so OTA updates work again...

gnoted said:
Anyone know how it actually tells if the phone has been rooted? Surely there's a way to reset it to unrooted/non-custom state so OTA updates work again...
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The boot loader and the os itself scan for certain things such as modified kernel/recovery or installation of busy box.
The Samsung's aren't so bad, you can just flash back the stock rom and factory reset to start getting ota updates again. On htc phones you have to unlock the boot loader to root and its a one way process. Once unlocked you can never get ota updates again.
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i have the same problem here, i would like to update MK2 but i cant.
used wanam exposed for fake > failed @ installation.
do i have to unroot or factory reset for update?
i dont want to install a cwm at the moment.
thx

Once you have rooted, the system partition has been modified so Samsung doesnot allow you to OTA update. It checks MD5hash for the consistency. Factory reset doesn't help because it only format userdata partition.
If you r rooted, better go to sammobile.com, download the latest firmware version, copy it to sdcard and flash via Mobile Odin Pro. This way you can keep the old bootloader so you can fallback (downgrade) to the older firmware later.

Thank you.
what is when i tripped the knox count?
Its 0x1 now. I was on new bootloader before.
Gesendet von meinem SM-N9005 mit Tapatalk 2

gnoted said:
Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
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OTA update works on rooted note 3. My Note 3 rooted and just yesterday it OTA update to MK2.
and see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519103

chemcup said:
OTA update works on rooted note 3. My Note 3 rooted and just yesterday it OTA update to MK2.
and see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519103
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I have tried the steps mentioned in that thread but it still wont let me OTA update.
Ive faked official status with wanam and still nothing.

vinokirk said:
I have tried the steps mentioned in that thread but it still wont let me OTA update.
Ive faked official status with wanam and still nothing.
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Ok you have to downlaod the original stock rom and flash with odin.
After that root it again. Everything fine now. knox trigger 0x1 at the moment.

BUFUMAN said:
Ok you have to downlaod the original stock rom and flash with odin.
After that root it again. Everything fine now. knox trigger 0x1 at the moment.
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I need to keep Knox at 0x0.
There must be a way of updating.

A couple of people have mentioned downloading from SamMobile and flashing back to stock. If I do this, what happens to twrp?
If twrp stays, I don't want it conflicting with a non-rooted phone (due to flashing stock) and being bricked

U can get upgrade with kiss not OTA but u must install wanamp exposed n change system into official. Its work on rooted stock rom.
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[Q] Possible to get OTA Updates back?

Just a quick question, if I unroot my Note 3 SM-n900W8 and flash back to stock with Odin, will this re-enable OTA Updates? Or is the OTA Update permanently disabled? I know if I went back to stock with Odin on my S3 it would re-enable OTA Updates, but I am unsure if it is the same with the Note 3. Just asking because I want to update to 4.4 when it releases for the Note 3.

Xelphos said:
Just a quick question, if I unroot my Note 3 SM-n900W8 and flash back to stock with Odin, will this re-enable OTA Updates? Or is the OTA Update permanently disabled? I know if I went back to stock with Odin on my S3 it would re-enable OTA Updates, but I am unsure if it is the same with the Note 3. Just asking because I want to update to 4.4 when it releases for the Note 3.
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Yeah should be fine for ota

Would the OP's process trip the KNOX counter?
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Why wouldn't you just ownload the new firmware from sammobile and flash with MP?
Retain root and still upgrade...

Update using ota or keep root (noob)

Greetings! Im new to the rooting scene and i have a rooted note 3 on 4.3. I would like to know if it is better to install the ota update then root again or just flash a new rom that is kitkat already.
Thanks in advance.

beefy314 said:
Greetings! Im new to the rooting scene and i have a rooted note 3 on 4.3. I would like to know if it is better to install the ota update then root again or just flash a new rom that is kitkat already.
Thanks in advance.
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You cannot OTA update since you have rooted. You can only download stock firmware and flash via Odin. And yes, you have to root again, also via Odin.
A new (custom) rom is another option, I have no idea with it.

For the time being, I would browse the Note 3 Android Development forum and see if a custom ROM is what you want. If it is, then by all means go ahead and flash one. If not, then upgrading to 4.4.2 and rooting is the best bet. Personally, I was on stock 4.4.2 rooted, and it didn't take long for me to flash a custom ROM. I'm on my third custom ROM in a month, so it can definitely get addicting.

You can update via OTA.
Thereafter, flash the old kernel xxund3.
root via towel root, and reflash the Kernel that came with the OTA update.
All via Odin. I don't think there's any way to do it, yet, and at the same time keeping knox 0x0.
link is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/general/root-root-xxufnf4-stock-firmware-knox-t2840150
Cheers!

[Q] My phone won't get an update

Hello. I have a Verizon Galaxy S4 SCH-i545 on 4.4.2 and NC2. My phone is rooted. There is supposed to be updates for my phone so I can go to more recent versions like NK1. However, when I go to the "About phone" menu and check for updates, it says there are no updates for my phone. Kies has also said I have the latest version, when it should be NK1. I even tried the Verizon software that comes with the phone, but it says, "Your firmware is not compatible for updating". My phone used to be on Hyperdrive, a custom ROM, but I went back to stock with ODIN. I have not gotten updates that I am supposed to get. Is there a way to force upgrade my phone? What can I do to get to the latest version? Thank you.

Unroot the phone. You must be totally stock for OTA updates to work. If you don't want to unroot, apply your phone's update through Odin.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Unroot the phone. You must be totally stock for OTA updates to work. If you don't want to unroot, apply your phone's update through Odin.
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Thank you very much for your reply. So it won't update because I am rooted? How would I unroot my phone? Also, how would I update through ODIN? Again, thank you.

As long as the phone has a custom status (i.e. rooted) you won't get any updates. Your other questions can be answered with a good search in the site's search engine. But I'll give you a hint: download the latest ROM image from sammobile.com and install it through Odin. It upgrades your phone but also unroots it.

Same way you installed the original stock firmware.
Download the latest update and flash it with Odin. There have to be some guides somewhere.
And for the unrooting, you probably have the supersu app. The app has an unroot option in the setttings, as far as I know. Try that.
If all else fails, reinstall stock rom with Odin, but don't root it until you update.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
As long as the phone has a custom status (i.e. rooted) you won't get any updates. Your other questions can be answered with a good search in the site's search engine. But I'll give you a hint: download the latest ROM image from sammobile.com and install it through Odin. It upgrades your phone but also unroots it.
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Thank you for your reply. I just successfully unrooted my phone. However, it still will not let me update. It still says NC2 is the latest version. What do I do?

Download the latest Verizon ROM from sammobile.com and install it through Odin.

S5 root with marshmallow

What's going to happen to my SM-G900I thats got root (running stock) when it receives the marshmallow update. Sorry for the simple question. Thanks

marshmallow update
Hey there! your root will probably be lost if you accept the OTA (over the air) marshmallow. My best advice to you is this:
1. DON'T accept the update. (caps lock for emphasis only). You, as the subscriber, can only accept the update. The carrier can't "force update' your phone without your permission.
2. wait until a dev "captures" the update and "injects" the root (if available) in the marshmallow stock rom.
3. as a rooted user myself, exercise your due patience and wait it out. don't *ask* for ETA from a dev -- it's mean. =)
I hope this helps. =)

You won't get OTA updates if you're rooted, you'll have to update manually then root again

sameog said:
Hey there! your root will probably be lost if you accept the OTA (over the air) marshmallow. My best advice to you is this:
1. DON'T accept the update. (caps lock for emphasis only). You, as the subscriber, can only accept the update. The carrier can't "force update' your phone without your permission.
2. wait until a dev "captures" the update and "injects" the root (if available) in the marshmallow stock rom.
3. as a rooted user myself, exercise your due patience and wait it out. don't *ask* for ETA from a dev -- it's mean. =)
I hope this helps. =)
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Okay thanks so pretty much wait until someone figures out how to root mm then update and root?

*Detection* said:
You won't get OTA updates if you're rooted, you'll have to update manually then root again
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So I will have to do a full unroot to get the update normally, and would manually updating just be flashing the stock mm rom?

devondale16 said:
So I will have to do a full unroot to get the update normally, and would manually updating just be flashing the stock mm rom?
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Full unroot doesn't seem to revert the device "Custom" status, which is what stops the OTA, to "Official" which is the status needed for OTA
The only way to return the device to Official is to flash a stock ROM with ODIN, that will unroot you and return the device to Official and OTA will work
And yes, Flashing manually is flashing a stock ROM with ODIN

*Detection* said:
Full unroot doesn't seem to revert the device "Custom" status, which is what stops the OTA, to "Official" which is the status needed for OTA
The only way to return the device to Official is to flash a stock ROM with ODIN, that will unroot you and return the device to Official and OTA will work
And yes, Flashing manually is flashing a stock ROM with ODIN
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Ohhh I understand now, thanks Durham. So I take it when I flash the new one with ODIN I will loose everything on my phone or can I do a dirty install and keep everything.

devondale16 said:
Ohhh I understand now, thanks Durham. So I take it when I flash the new one with ODIN I will loose everything on my phone or can I do a dirty install and keep everything.
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You only lose anything custom, like root or recovery, all your apps and files etc are safe

*Detection* said:
You only lose anything custom, like root or recovery, all your apps and files etc are safe
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Do you have a link for this if it's been made?
Sent from my SM-G900I using XDA-Developers mobile app

devondale16 said:
Do you have a link for this if it's been made?
Sent from my SM-G900I using XDA-Developers mobile app
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For what? Stock MM?
This one is modded for BTU United Kingdom for the G900F, been running it for a while now, great ROM
It will trip KNOX though if you haven't already
Code:
https://mega.nz/#!SMRlERrY!oeOX8W_4tbQbArTN-LzTKWJ1xi_8LLrN_ZoSg-Dzs1Q