Update using ota or keep root (noob) - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Greetings! Im new to the rooting scene and i have a rooted note 3 on 4.3. I would like to know if it is better to install the ota update then root again or just flash a new rom that is kitkat already.
Thanks in advance.

beefy314 said:
Greetings! Im new to the rooting scene and i have a rooted note 3 on 4.3. I would like to know if it is better to install the ota update then root again or just flash a new rom that is kitkat already.
Thanks in advance.
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You cannot OTA update since you have rooted. You can only download stock firmware and flash via Odin. And yes, you have to root again, also via Odin.
A new (custom) rom is another option, I have no idea with it.

For the time being, I would browse the Note 3 Android Development forum and see if a custom ROM is what you want. If it is, then by all means go ahead and flash one. If not, then upgrading to 4.4.2 and rooting is the best bet. Personally, I was on stock 4.4.2 rooted, and it didn't take long for me to flash a custom ROM. I'm on my third custom ROM in a month, so it can definitely get addicting.

You can update via OTA.
Thereafter, flash the old kernel xxund3.
root via towel root, and reflash the Kernel that came with the OTA update.
All via Odin. I don't think there's any way to do it, yet, and at the same time keeping knox 0x0.
link is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-3/general/root-root-xxufnf4-stock-firmware-knox-t2840150
Cheers!

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[Q] Should I update?

I rooted my S4 when it first came out and I have never updated it. It won't let me install the OTA updates, but I was wondering if there are any benefits to the updates and should I unroot and update? Much appreciated!
No need to unroot! Just do a system wipe and flash a custom ROM that has the newest version of 4.3 incorporated in it.
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scaryfaces said:
I rooted my S4 when it first came out and I have never updated it. It won't let me install the OTA updates, but I was wondering if there are any benefits to the updates and should I unroot and update? Much appreciated!
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I wouldn't update/take the OTA for MF3 if you are currently running AMDL firmware or previous older firmwares. The MF3 OTA update updates your bootloader and thus seals an exploit that blocks your device from using custom recoveries/kernels.
If you do take the OTA for MF3 for what ever reason do know that you can still flash custom ROM's by using safestrap after rooting it. Just don' attempt to flash any recoveries other than that provided by the app safestrap.
As for benefits on MF3? I haven't noticed many improvements IMO other than the official ability to use apps2sd. App2sd can be easily replaced by third party solutions. I suggest you stay rooted and install a custom recovery such as Philz touch, lastly, flash an MF3 based ROM via our android development section.
Good luck! =)

My rooted S4 can update to 4.3 OTA?

So I have my S4 roooted using the CF Auto Root and flashing stock MF9. I installed the TWRP through Goo MAnager
This morning my phone request me to install the 4.3 update OTA...
I thought that rooted phone lost the OTA update capabilities?
If I wanted to update to 4.3.... Should I flash to 4.3 using Odin or should I go with the OTA?
What about the Knox boot thing?
kreizyidiot said:
So I have my S4 roooted using the CF Auto Root and flashing stock MF9. I installed the TWRP through Goo MAnager
This morning my phone request me to install the 4.3 update OTA...
I thought that rooted phone lost the OTA update capabilities?
If I wanted to update to 4.3.... Should I flash to 4.3 using Odin or should I go with the OTA?
What about the Knox boot thing?
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If you didn't install a custom kernel you probably will be able to take the OTA.
You will lose root, and your custom recovery.
You will be stuck with knox bootloader.
You should spend a whole lot of time reading throught the stickies, how-to's and follow-up posts.
leaderbuilder said:
If you didn't install a custom kernel you probably will be able to take the OTA.
You will lose root, and your custom recovery.
You will be stuck with knox bootloader.
You should spend a whole lot of time reading throught the stickies, how-to's and follow-up posts.
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So can I forgo the ota update and flash through Odin?
kreizyidiot said:
So can I forgo the ota update and flash through Odin?
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Yes you can.
HOWEVER I would suggest you read a whole lot more on how to do that and the implications of doing so.
To get the MJA firmware (modem & files) WITHOUT tripping Knox (locked bootloader) check out Unknownforce's post(s)
IF you just want 4.3 you can go ahead and flash cnexus', Unknownforce's, negamann303, or Sac's ROM(s) but make sure you follow their OPs on how to do that specifically using Philz recovery and rebooting recovery before actual ROM flash.
I sense that you just want to 'jump in' to 4.3 right away. There are many things to understand before doing that. If you wish to not be 'surprised' by an issue that is/has already described and remedied then read a bunch first.
Good luck.
oh, and if I or any member has helped you there is a 'Thanks Button' there too.

What upgrade path would you go from 4.2.2 JDQ39.MDL?

I just picked up an S4 that has not been upgraded to 4.3 and Knox, this phone will be for my wife and I will root it and it needs wireless/wifi tether. I would like for her to be on the latest 4.3 ROM with root and that is all.
So, which way should I upgrade?
OTA to 4.3 and have a knox bootloader and then root the phone using CFautoroot? (not sure if this method sticks from what I have read)
Root the 4.2.2 and keep bootloader same, flash recovery (which one?) and then flash stock 4.3 rom? (I am not sure how to do this yet)?
I am coming from a Sprint SII (I have a Nexus 5 now though) so I am familiar with using Odin and flashing but that phone had the kernel and recovery in one and this phone has them separate.
Thanks and any tips would be appreciated, I will be going over this forum tonight when I get home from work but of course would like some immediate help/info, which is why I am asking before searching.
Thanks
Raistlin1 said:
I just picked up an S4 that has not been upgraded to 4.3 and Knox, this phone will be for my wife and I will root it and it needs wireless/wifi tether. I would like for her to be on the latest 4.3 ROM with root and that is all.
So, which way should I upgrade?
OTA to 4.3 and have a knox bootloader and then root the phone using CFautoroot? (not sure if this method sticks from what I have read)
Root the 4.2.2 and keep bootloader same, flash recovery (which one?) and then flash stock 4.3 rom? (I am not sure how to do this yet)?
I am coming from a Sprint SII (I have a Nexus 5 now though) so I am familiar with using Odin and flashing but that phone had the kernel and recovery in one and this phone has them separate.
Thanks and any tips would be appreciated, I will be going over this forum tonight when I get home from work but of course would like some immediate help/info, which is why I am asking before searching.
Thanks
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Personally, I never perform upgrades via OTA. Root the device if you haven't already,
I recommend you flash the firmware/modem-only--this will keep from having the bootloader locked with knox. You can get it from Unknownforce here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42954144.
Install the latest version of TWRP then install a custom ROM. I highly recommend Sacs ROM

[Q] *** Cant Find Info On MDL - Return To Stock Rooted ?!?

Currently, im rooted and running a custom rom and recovery on my ATT S4 with MDL. I'd like to return to stock rooted with the option to flash custom roms in the future. I know there have been a lot of changes recently with the various versions so I would also like to update to the safest and latest firmware possible(still be able to flash custom recovery and rom if I wanted to in the future).
So... What would be the best method to go about returning to an updated stock rooted state with the ability to flash roms and recoveries in the future?
I've been searching all morning but can't find much info on working with MDL. Can anyone point me in the direction or offer any assistance?
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance :good:
Go to sammobile.com for the mdl firmware. You'll download a zip, extract the .tar.md5 file from it and flash that in Odin. After you do that the phone will want to update to the newest firmware so look for the files to delete or flash a custom rom. It'll also wrote the device so backup first
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jd1639 said:
Go to sammobile.com for the mdl firmware. You'll download a zip, extract the .tar.md5 file from it and flash that in Odin. After you do that the phone will want to update to the newest firmware so look for the files to delete or flash a custom rom. It'll also wrote the device so backup first
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Great. Thanks a bunch but I will no longer be rooted after flashing stock through ODIN correct? Should I use CASUAL from there to regain root and a custom recovery? Also, how would I update to a newer firmware after that? One that is "safe" or least problematic?
R.Suave said:
Great. Thanks a bunch but I will no longer be rooted after flashing stock through ODIN correct? Should I use CASUAL from there to regain root and a custom recovery? Also, how would I update to a newer firmware after that? One that is "safe" or least problematic?
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You will lose root. CASUAL will still work and you'll still be able to use twrp or cwm. For newer firmware you're going to want to flash a custom rom based 4.4.4. You don't want to update your firmware as you won't be able to use twrp or cwm any more
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jd1639 said:
You will lose root. CASUAL will still work and you'll still be able to use twrp or cwm. For newer firmware you're going to want to flash a custom rom based 4.4.4. You don't want to update your firmware as you won't be able to use twrp or cwm any more
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Perfect. Just the info I was looking for. Thanks! :good:

note 3 still on 4.3 towelroot - now need to flash custom recovery but uncertain

After rooting my Note 3 (not branded or simlocked) many moons ago with Towelroot, I've come to the point of wanting to update things a tad. I never installed a custom recovery so it's just a root.
However, looking through the multiple threads here and not wishing to make a bad mistake I'm a little confused and could do with some clear pointers.
I am currently on 4.3 Jellybean BL: N900XXUBMJ3 so most threads deal with later versions and I really want to know what the best path is to now being able to start trying out custom roms such as the DarkWolf ROM or just get this to Lollipop. Obviously now Knox 1x0 is no longer a problem as it's out of warranty.
I assume that the step should really be to install a custom recovery and for that there is a confusion of whether I can do that directly on my current bootloader or do I have install 4.4.2 as some threads suggest?
Probably due to my misunderstanding I am not sure if a 4.4 bootloader is separate from the firmware. If it comes to having to update the bootloader do I have to completely upgrade to Kitkat or can I just update the bootloader only?
louiscar said:
After rooting my Note 3 (not branded or simlocked) many moons ago with Towelroot, I've come to the point of wanting to update things a tad. I never installed a custom recovery so it's just a root.
However, looking through the multiple threads here and not wishing to make a bad mistake I'm a little confused and could do with some clear pointers.
I am currently on 4.3 Jellybean BL: N900XXUBMJ3 so most threads deal with later versions and I really want to know what the best path is to now being able to start trying out custom roms such as the DarkWolf ROM or just get this to Lollipop. Obviously now Knox 1x0 is no longer a problem as it's out of warranty.
I assume that the step should really be to install a custom recovery and for that there is a confusion of whether I can do that directly on my current bootloader or do I have install 4.4.2 as some threads suggest?
Probably due to my misunderstanding I am not sure if a 4.4 bootloader is separate from the firmware. If it comes to having to update the bootloader do I have to completely upgrade to Kitkat or can I just update the bootloader only?
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You can flash custom recovery for 4.3 but all 5.1.1 and 6.0 roms require 5.0 bootloader to make the camera to work correctly.
Flash 4.3 custom recovery. Then flash the rom of your choice. Then flash 5.0 bootloader. After that flash 4.4.2/5.0 recovery.
Or flash 5.0 firmware. Flash 4.4.2/5.0 custom recovery. Flash the rom of your choice.
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Rosli59564 said:
You can flash custom recovery for 4.3 but all 5.1.1 and 6.0 roms require 5.0 bootloader to make the camera to work correctly.
Flash 4.3 custom recovery. Then flash the rom of your choice. Then flash 5.0 bootloader. After that flash 4.4.2/5.0 recovery.
Or flash 5.0 firmware. Flash 4.4.2/5.0 custom recovery. Flash the rom of your choice.
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Thanks for that Rosli,
I actually found that OTA was working still so I let it update. This went through a lot of updates one by one till it got to the latest 4.3. All this left root intact. Then it downloaded the kitkat but that failed. I had figured that if I let it update to Lollipop I could then root it with CF Autoroot but as it's not going any further (probably due to the fact that I'm rooted .. maybe), I will have to manually update via Odin.
I would probably in that case prefer your advice of flashing 5.0 directly then custom recovery, however, do I have to CF autoroot or can I flash recovery without root and then root after that?
louiscar said:
Thanks for that Rosli,
I actually found that OTA was working still so I let it update. This went through a lot of updates one by one till it got to the latest 4.3. All this left root intact. Then it downloaded the kitkat but that failed. I had figured that if I let it update to Lollipop I could then root it with CF Autoroot but as it's not going any further (probably due to the fact that I'm rooted .. maybe), I will have to manually update via Odin.
I would probably in that case prefer your advice of flashing 5.0 directly then custom recovery, however, do I have to CF autoroot or can I flash recovery without root and then root after that?
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Can flash custom recovery then root. But if you're going to flash custom rom no need to root after custom recovery.
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