[Q] Lost root after update - Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Just got my S5 and used towelroot as soon as I got it, went perfectly.
Now I updated some Samsung OTA updates and lost root. To make things worse, towelroot now says device not supported.
How can I get root back?
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b0ng0 said:
Now I updated some Samsung OTA updates and lost root. To make things worse, towelroot now says device not supported.
How can I get root back?:confused
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This has been asked and answered (a lot of times) before. So almost any forum search would have answered your questions.
Updates usually break root. So that is expected behaviour. If you value root, you should probably be blocking the OTA updater app. Ironically enough, the update your chose also blocks the Towel root exploit. You can use Odin to reinstall a pre June 3rd build of the correct stock firmware which remains amenable to Towel root.
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b0ng0 said:
Just got my S5 and used towelroot as soon as I got it, went perfectly.
Now I updated some Samsung OTA updates and lost root. To make things worse, towelroot now says device not supported.
How can I get root back?
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Or just flash the updated rom next time with Mobile Odin Pro and keep root Most S5`s are supported bij MOP.

fffft said:
This has been asked and answered (a lot of times) before. So almost any forum search would have answered your questions.
Updates usually break root. So that is expected behaviour. If you value root, you should probably be blocking the OTA updater app. Ironically enough, the update your chose also blocks the Towel root exploit. You can use Odin to reinstall a pre June 3rd build of the correct stock firmware which remains amenable to Towel root.
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Could I just do a factory reset and not update the firmware to keep root? Would that work?
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b0ng0 said:
Could I just do a factory reset and not update the firmware to keep root? Would that work?
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No. And I don't see a rationale for thinking that might be viable. A factory data reset wipes the /data partition i.e. user settings /apps. Whereas root is configured in the system files.
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gee2012 said:
Or just flash the updated rom next time with Mobile Odin Pro and keep root Most S5`s are supported bij MOP.
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I have the update available but I didn't flash yet because I want to keep root.
Is an unlocked bootloader required to use Mobil Odin Pro to flash the Latest update?
I have a VZW SM-G900V, Rooted, Stock OS, Locked Bootloader and no Custom Recovery installed.
Update Edit:
Please disregard this question: Mobil Odin Pro does not support the SM-G900V yet.
Ep://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347899[/url]
Also it should be noted that Mobil Odin Pro will not launch at all if the device is running with ART Runtime System enabled. It will only force crash with every attempt. It will launch with DALVIK Runtime System enabled however it will only post a message of incompatibility with only the option of creating a system dump file for the developer!

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Does a Rooted Note 3 get OTA Updates?

Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
Thanks!
gnoted said:
Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
Thanks!
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I think no.It may receive,but it'd fail to install.
GamingDj said:
I think no.It may receive,but it'd fail to install.
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If it does install you will loose root... But I believe if the system is found to be custom in any way it will fail on install of OTA or will actually tell you that the phone has been modified and no updates available for you
ultramag69 said:
If it does install you will loose root... But I believe if the system is found to be custom in any way it will fail on install of OTA or will actually tell you that the phone has been modified and no updates available for you
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Thanks for the reply. Just out of curiosity about the HTC Desire HD that has since been given to a less tech-savvy relative, is there a way to unroot so the OTA update will work??
I rooted my N3 3 days after buying and then tried to get an OTA update. It didn't download first, as my phone was set to custom. After using Wanam's setting to "reset" the custom status, I could download the OTA update but couldn't install it.
Basically, with root you can still check if there's an official update available, but you can't install.
Mikegrmn said:
I rooted my N3 3 days after buying and then tried to get an OTA update. It didn't download first, as my phone was set to custom. After using Wanam's setting to "reset" the custom status, I could download the OTA update but couldn't install it.
Basically, with root you can still check if there's an official update available, but you can't install.
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Anyone know how it actually tells if the phone has been rooted? Surely there's a way to reset it to unrooted/non-custom state so OTA updates work again...
gnoted said:
Anyone know how it actually tells if the phone has been rooted? Surely there's a way to reset it to unrooted/non-custom state so OTA updates work again...
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The boot loader and the os itself scan for certain things such as modified kernel/recovery or installation of busy box.
The Samsung's aren't so bad, you can just flash back the stock rom and factory reset to start getting ota updates again. On htc phones you have to unlock the boot loader to root and its a one way process. Once unlocked you can never get ota updates again.
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i have the same problem here, i would like to update MK2 but i cant.
used wanam exposed for fake > failed @ installation.
do i have to unroot or factory reset for update?
i dont want to install a cwm at the moment.
thx
Once you have rooted, the system partition has been modified so Samsung doesnot allow you to OTA update. It checks MD5hash for the consistency. Factory reset doesn't help because it only format userdata partition.
If you r rooted, better go to sammobile.com, download the latest firmware version, copy it to sdcard and flash via Mobile Odin Pro. This way you can keep the old bootloader so you can fallback (downgrade) to the older firmware later.
Thank you.
what is when i tripped the knox count?
Its 0x1 now. I was on new bootloader before.
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gnoted said:
Sorry if this is a newbie question, but if I root my Galaxy Note 3 (N9005, Vodafone Australia), will it still get OTA updates?
I ask because I used to have a HTC Desire HD, and after rooting and installing Cyanogenmod, I tried to put the Nandroid backup of the stock rom back on, which was fine but for some reason wouldn't install the OTA updates. It would tell me there was an update and download it, but would fail to install.
Thanks!
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OTA update works on rooted note 3. My Note 3 rooted and just yesterday it OTA update to MK2.
and see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519103
chemcup said:
OTA update works on rooted note 3. My Note 3 rooted and just yesterday it OTA update to MK2.
and see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2519103
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I have tried the steps mentioned in that thread but it still wont let me OTA update.
Ive faked official status with wanam and still nothing.
vinokirk said:
I have tried the steps mentioned in that thread but it still wont let me OTA update.
Ive faked official status with wanam and still nothing.
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Ok you have to downlaod the original stock rom and flash with odin.
After that root it again. Everything fine now. knox trigger 0x1 at the moment.
BUFUMAN said:
Ok you have to downlaod the original stock rom and flash with odin.
After that root it again. Everything fine now. knox trigger 0x1 at the moment.
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I need to keep Knox at 0x0.
There must be a way of updating.
A couple of people have mentioned downloading from SamMobile and flashing back to stock. If I do this, what happens to twrp?
If twrp stays, I don't want it conflicting with a non-rooted phone (due to flashing stock) and being bricked
U can get upgrade with kiss not OTA but u must install wanamp exposed n change system into official. Its work on rooted stock rom.
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sticky on ROOT for 9506

after a LONG search I found this link, hidden in about 1300 threads in the General section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2529064
can anyone confirm this is working for the 9506 snapdragon 800 version? I got my device last night, and now for initial testing I JUST want root. I've not upgraded to 4.3.
there are only 13 threads in this section. wouldn't it be nice to get a tested and working [ROOT] sticky in this section? Root is a basic requirement for us developers (although it has been some time I've cooked something myself )
Flash a pre rooted v4.2.2 stock rom @
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2597058
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8monochrome said:
Flash a pre rooted v4.2.2 stock rom @
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2597058
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I had read that thread, but I also read that there were some issues with it (permissions, at least with the 4.3 image). So I don't want to go with that option just yet. I prefer for now the stock ROM.
I am merely trying to get root (and just root) by creating a simple root guide in this forum as a sticky.
dXsL said:
I had read that thread, but I also read that there were some issues with it (permissions, at least with the 4.3 image). So I don't want to go with that option just yet. I prefer for now the stock ROM.
I am merely trying to get root (and just root) by creating a simple root guide in this forum as a sticky.
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If your on 4.2.2 use this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2566509
Simple and works!
bumax said:
If your on 4.2.2 use this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2566509
Simple and works!
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as far as I know, and depending on who you trust, KingoApp and VROOT have not been able to produce evidence that they are NOT harvesting IMEI numbers. The last I read is that XDA admins remove all download links to KingoApp and VROOT software. In the past several warnings have been posted about both apps. Unless anyone know that these apps are ok now?
dXsL said:
as far as I know, and depending on who you trust, KingoApp and VROOT have not been able to produce evidence that they are NOT harvesting IMEI numbers. The last I read is that XDA admins remove all download links to KingoApp and VROOT software. In the past several warnings have been posted about both apps. Unless anyone know that these apps are ok now?
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I read from xda and KingoApp facebook page and they claim all of those things have been removed from their app.
Cant say it 100% sure but I am happy that root works with their app. :silly:
bumax said:
I read from xda and KingoApp facebook page and they claim all of those things have been removed from their app.
Cant say it 100% sure but I am happy that root works with their app. :silly:
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in the "old days" we could use something like RootKeeper... i.e., for example root an older version of android (like 4.2.2), upgrade to a newer version (like 4.3) and subsequently lose root, and then restore the root with RootKeeper. Is that possible with this phone?
dXsL said:
in the "old days" we could use something like RootKeeper... i.e., for example root an older version of android (like 4.2.2), upgrade to a newer version (like 4.3) and subsequently lose root, and then restore the root with RootKeeper. Is that possible with this phone?
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I havent test with i9506 but with Xcover2 (GT-S7710) I have updated two phones via OTA and root has remain after update.
Possible with i9506 I bet root wont remain, atleast with 4.3 update cause KNOX.
How I managed to root my I9506:
Note: If you updated to 4.3 via OTA, it is very likely that you wont be able to flash custom recovery via Odin.
1) Reflash the full 4.3 firmware that i got mine form sammobile via odin
2) Follow through the steps in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2529064
Warning : After rooting through the steps above my phone KNOX Warranty Void : 0x1
(Not sure if this is due to the SuperSU disabling the KNOX or the actual rooting process)
dan079 said:
How I managed to root my I9506:
Note: If you updated to 4.3 via OTA, it is very likely that you wont be able to flash custom recovery via Odin.
1) Reflash the full 4.3 firmware that i got mine form sammobile via odin
2) Follow through the steps in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2529064
Warning : After rooting through the steps above my phone KNOX Warranty Void : 0x1
(Not sure if this is due to the SuperSU disabling the KNOX or the actual rooting process)
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Hey!
Like in other treads, like galaxy S3 I9xx was talked http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2597774, the 4.3 and later have already KNOX installed and if you install custom recovery or root your device, you probably fire the KNOX warranty to 0x1. Still there no one who was able to reset this KNOX warranty to 0x0, like TRIANGLE AEAY is resetting your flashing counter.
Then DONT install any CUSTOM RECOVERY or try to ROOT your device in 4.3 or later, if you want your warranty(ofcourse if there is already have the way, how to reset KNOX).
PEACE FOR ALL!!!

[Q] root for latest s 5 sm g900h frimware please

hello friends
can some one tell me how can i root s 5 sm g900h variant with latest stock frimware {XXU1ANG3}
cos i was not able to root it with cf auto root file that i used earlier
it stoped on cache in odin and i have to reflash frimware again to make my phone alright again
also what will happen if i check re partition in odin before flashing stock rom
i mean will it completely reset phone cos after failed root when i reflashed latest frimware i got frimware flashed but i had all same settings and even wallpaper from before { i did not have to set up my phone again like entering email and clicking yes
thanks in advance :good::good:
Still not searching before posting, my friend?
Back up your phone. Then revert to an earlier stock build of 4.4.2 for your 900H that is still amenable to the CF auto root exploit.
You should know by now that there are no assurances of retaining root when upgrading. Since you seem set on upgrading, buy Mobile Odin Pro or Super Su Pro and use their features to (usually) retain root after an upgrade. For best results you should be doing the upgrade manually, not OTA.
Good luck.
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fffft said:
Still not searching before posting, my friend?
Back up your phone. Then Install a pre-June 3rd build of 4.4.2 100% stock firmware for your 900H. Root using Towel root.
You should know by now that there are no assurances of retaining root when upgrading. Since you seem set on upgrading, buy Mobile Odin Pro or Super Su Pro and use their features to (usually) retain root after an upgrade. For best results you should be doing the upgrade manually, not OTA.
Good luck.
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bro thanks for replying but as much i remember towel root does not work on h variant as i tried last time
and what will repartitioning do ??
sharingan said:
as much i remember towel root does not work on h variant as i tried last time
and what will repartitioning do ??
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Apologies for the typo on my part. Disregard the Towel root /pre-June 3rd part. I meant to say revert to an earlier build of 4.4.2 firmware that CF auto root will still work on since you have a 900H.
I'm not sure what you mean by repartitioning though. Who suggested repartitioning?
fffft said:
Apologies for the typo on my part. Disregard the Towel root /pre-June 3rd part. I meant to say revert to an earlier build of 4.4.2 firmware that CF auto root will still work on since you have a 900H.
I'm not sure what you mean by repartitioning though. Who suggested repartitioning?
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nobody suggested repartitioning but when i reflashed rm from odin it had same screen and apps installed
i mean it was not ike next next and yes which we have to do when we got our phone new

[Q] Updating from 4.3 to Kitkat without Root.

I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 ATT Base: 1337UCUEMK2. My phone is rooted but I am looking to update to KitKat with or without root. I am not against loosing root to get the update. I have searched for a couple of days now and have not found any concrete answer to what the process would be for me to unroot and update. As of now I have the apps that are recommended to be frozen through TB to stop OTAs. Is it as simple unfreezing those apps, unrooting and getting the OTA, or do I have to prescribe to a more intricate process. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
I would Odin the nb1 tar file then ota to nj4. See this on how to root it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56453100
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jd1639 said:
I would Odin the nb1 tar file then ota to nj4. See this on how to root it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56453100
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Thanks for the reply. I've read that post in the past but for my own understanding, what I would need to do would be to use the Odin tool to install NB1 version, which is not rooted, then upgrade to the latest version of Android like you would normally upgrade via the software updates? I just want to make sure I am understanding correctly what the course of action would be if I were to partake. Thanks again.
Saritone said:
Thanks for the reply. I've read that post in the past but for my own understanding, what I would need to do would be to use the Odin tool to install NB1 version, which is not rooted, then upgrade to the latest version of Android like you would normally upgrade via the software updates? I just want to make sure I am understanding correctly what the course of action would be if I were to partake. Thanks again.
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You've got it down. Odin will wipe your device so make sure any pic, music,etc you want to keep are backed up off the device or on your external sdcard. Also, it's a good idea to use titanium backup for your apps and their data
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[Q] Galaxy s4 in a weird Not-Rooted/Rooted state

I recently rooted my Galaxy S4 using the Towel Root method. but a week ago or so while driving ATT forced an update and updated to the new version. The problem is I do not have Root active, but I can't use certain apps due to getting a message saying that they can't be used on a Rooted device. I am not sure how to remove this odd state I am in. Has anyone had this issue and know how to remove it?
Device: Samsung Galaxy S4
Carrier: AT&T
Model: SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
Android Version 4.4.2
Build Number: KOT49.I337UCUFNI1
darxval said:
I recently rooted my Galaxy S4 using the Towel Root method. but a week ago or so while driving ATT forced an update and updated to the new version. The problem is I do not have Root active, but I can't use certain apps due to getting a message saying that they can't be used on a Rooted device. I am not sure how to remove this odd state I am in. Has anyone had this issue and know how to remove it?
Device: Samsung Galaxy S4
Carrier: AT&T
Model: SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
Android Version 4.4.2
Build Number: KOT49.I337UCUFNI1
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What is it that you really want - to regain root or to unroot?
1. To regain root - read the root section of All Things AT&T thread
2. To unroot
a. Without losing data -- I am not sure exactly how to do this
One way would be to re-root and then unroot using the superSu app.
b. With losing data -- Oding NB1 stock and update to latest. Follow Return to Stock
I would like to have it go back to unrooted status. I was hoping for a data safe method. But at this point whichever will work. I am assuming i'll have to root, then unroot. But I didnt know if this causes problem as apps believe it to be rooted but the system says I am not.
I'm having the same dilemma
I rooted my s4 using towelroot. Later att forced an update to 4.4.2 which i thought wouldn't work because it was tooted. But it actually did work and updated. Now the phone is not rooted but it seems that there are some files that are still somewhere that pretty much makes it be partially rooted but with not real root access. Now that the next update is being forced by att for version 4.4.4 it doesn't work. It stores installing at 27% with a failed message. I uninstalled towel root and super user but with no success. I whiped the partition and no success. I did a factory reset which i thought it would work and remove the files that maked look rooted and no success. What should i do exactly to unroot it?
JaureguiRoberto said:
I rooted my s4 using towelroot. Later att forced an update to 4.4.2 which i thought wouldn't work because it was tooted. But it actually did work and updated. Now the phone is not rooted but it seems that there are some files that are still somewhere that pretty much makes it be partially rooted but with not real root access. Now that the next update is being forced by att for version 4.4.4 it doesn't work. It stores installing at 27% with a failed message. I uninstalled towel root and super user but with no success. I whiped the partition and no success. I did a factory reset which i thought it would work and remove the files that maked look rooted and no success. What should i do exactly to unroot it?
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You could use Odin since nothing else is working
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jd1639 said:
You could use Odin since nothing else is working
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What version of odin? Is there a link with special instructions for this situation? Will i be using odin to install 4.4.2 again? Or 4.4.4? Is there a direct link for at&t 4.4.4 so i can install using odin?
Thanks
JaureguiRoberto said:
What version of odin? Is there a link with special instructions for this situation? Will i be using odin to install 4.4.2 again? Or 4.4.4? Is there a direct link for at&t 4.4.4 so i can install using odin?
Thanks
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You would have to Odin the nb1 tar file, it's the only version that exists. Then ota to 4.4.4, nj4. Any version of Odin works. It will wipe your device and you'll have to start over setting it up.
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You could use Odin since nothing else is working
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jd1639 said:
You would have to Odin the nb1 tar file, it's the only version that exists. Then ota to 4.4.4, nj4. Any version of Odin works. It will wipe your device and you'll have to start over setting it up.
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Thank you i will start looking for the files.
JaureguiRoberto said:
Thank you i will start looking for the files.
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Start here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56453100
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