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I'm sorry if this has been posted already, but searching on my phone for this answer has been less than ideal, so I've resorted to making a post. I'm hoping someone can link me to a thread that has this available.
I'm looking to root my phone, but I've already got it setup the way I like and I really don't want to go through the hassle of getting everything all ironed out again. So here is what I'm looking for:
1. Root the phone while remaining with the stock N4 ROM.
2. Don't need to "reformat" my phone or start from scratch.
3. Just to clarify 2, I want to keep the phone the way it is now, but just gain root access so I can take advantage of some apps that require it such as the Sixaxxis app for the PS3 controller and Titanium Backup.
4. Still will receive OTA updates without breaking root.
As of now I have no desire to go after any custom ROMs until I find some added functionality that I really see being useful that also doesn't break other features of my phone. So I'm really waiting on development to mature a bit more for this device before even considering something custom.
Thanks to anyone who can offer some help.
1. Root the phone while remaining with the stock N4 ROM.
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Rooting doesn't touch your ROM, so you're still in stock.
2. Don't need to "reformat" my phone or start from scratch.
3. Just to clarify 2, I want to keep the phone the way it is now, but just gain root access so I can take advantage of some apps that require it such as the Sixaxxis app for the PS3 controller and Titanium Backup
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Most, if not all, rooting methods have boot-loader unlocking as a prerequisite.
Unlocking boot-loader will wipe your phone. There is no alternative.
On the bright side, you can make a backup of your system, unlock boot-loader, restore your system, then root the phone.
4. Still will receive OTA updates without breaking root.
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As long as you don't flash customer recovery, you're fine.
What are my backup alternatives then to keep all those settings? I've only ever rooted one device before and I thought Titanium Backup (which requires root) was one of the only backup methods for this sort of thing? Or is there something I'm missing?
there is one backup that the app has a picture of one of those hula hoops use for saving people from drowning...
My backup pro.
I'd try this way. Backup whole ROM in custom recovery and if needed restore via app extractor (found on market)
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The guide stickied in this section is relevant to your interests.
Adb backup...
Unlock.
Restore...and it'll be like you never touched anything.
MattSkeet said:
My backup pro.
I'd try this way. Backup whole ROM in custom recovery and if needed restore via app extractor (found on market)
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How exactly is he going to backup the ROM in custom recovery.. if he is still bootloader locked?
ADB backup will backup your settings without being rooted.
OK thanks, I'll give that a try.
Is there anyway that I can root my nexus 7 and right after that, restore all my previous data back onto my device just like I had not done anything?
All I want to do is root so that I can just change the kernel I am running to get better performance but still maintain decent battery life.
I want to know if i can backup before I root and restore from that backup after I have rooted just so I don't have to lose my game data, pictures, etc.
Right now the way I have done it was just restoring from Google cloud where I still get all my apps back but not the app data.
I have been using Wugfresh's latest tool kit
Look up adb backup in Google. That's how I did it.
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Gizmoe said:
Look up adb backup in Google. That's how I did it.
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Thanks Gizmoe, I will look into this, it's just a pain to have to keep losing all of that important data every time I root or unroot.
Titanium backup works great but it is a catch 22 as it is for rooted devices,
Once rooted though you can use rootkeeper to temporarily unroot if you need to run one of the few apps that require it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper
Bout to get my nexus 4, will be dropped off by UPS tomorow. And i have a few questions, if anyone will be kind enough to answer.
Would it be a smart idea to unlock the bootloader and root it with TWRP recovery like the second i take it out of the box so that way i dont have to back anything up?
And then, when i decide to switch to a non stock ROM i will just need Titanium backup to backup my stuff and then im good to go?
Also, one more question, since nexus's dont have SD cards, wont my titanium backups get wiped when i flash a rom?
Thanks
1) Yes it would probably be a good idea to unlock and root right away. That's what I done with my Nexus 7. I didn't install recovery though because I wasn't interested in custom ROMs. If you're going to be flashing things right away then yes install the recovery aswell.
2) Titanium Backup will do that perfectly for you but you could always just make the backup through recovery. As you said you'll be using TWRP it means you can restore data separately from a backup anyway.
3) You don't need to worry about backups being wiped because they're stored in the internal SD. It's essentially just space to make sure important things can still be safe even if you factory reset.
Hope that helps
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Btw I would recommend Helium instead of Titanium Backup for backing up your stuff. Works much more efficiently, at least for me. Helium backs up everything, apps and app data, launcher, WiFi settings, user dictionary, launcher setup, and all your SMS data. I really like it and I've fully replaced Titanium Backup with it.
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Instead of titanium backup use go backup pro and save it to the cloud
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After you root & unlock the device I strongly suggest you play around with the phone for a few days and see how battery is and its performance as well. After those few days if you want you could just install any rom or kernel you want. You'll thank me later. Lol
KidCarter93 said:
1) Yes it would probably be a good idea to unlock and root right away. That's what I done with my Nexus 7. I didn't install recovery though because I wasn't interested in custom ROMs. If you're going to be flashing things right away then yes install the recovery aswell.
2) Titanium Backup will do that perfectly for you but you could always just make the backup through recovery. As you said you'll be using TWRP it means you can restore data separately from a backup anyway.
3) You don't need to worry about backups being wiped because they're stored in the internal SD. It's essentially just space to make sure important things can still be safe even if you factory reset.
Hope that helps
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nyyankees1237 said:
Btw I would recommend Helium instead of Titanium Backup for backing up your stuff. Works much more efficiently, at least for me. Helium backs up everything, apps and app data, launcher, WiFi settings, user dictionary, launcher setup, and all your SMS data. I really like it and I've fully replaced Titanium Backup with it.
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ayo234 said:
Instead of titanium backup use go backup pro and save it to the cloud
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scream4cheese said:
After you root & unlock the device I strongly suggest you play around with the phone for a few days and see how battery is and it's performance as well. After those few days if you want you could just install any rom or kernel you want. You'll thank me later. Lol
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thank you all so much! I really appreciate the answers. I will look into all three of those options for backing up my data! Thank you. and the internal sd card thing makes perfect sense so thank you for that explanation. You all have a good day!
Hi there, I'm new to the Galaxy S5 forum and don't actually own the device itself yet, but I'm planning on getting it in a few months so here goes my ? :
Since I've got around 300 apps on my current phone, I don't wanna download and update each apps's settings all over again when I get my new S5 and I was wondering if doing a nandroid backup of my S3 Mini containing just the "data" partition and restoring it on the S5 will work and all of my apps will be copied over with all of their settings untouched, BUT I also won't lose any of the preinstalled apps on the S5 itself?
Or maybe I can try this app and make flashable zips of my apps and then flash them on the GS5?
This has always been the main trouble I have had when switching phones before, though I never switched from Android to Android. Hope someone can shed some light on my question and make me buy the S5 sooner Good night all!!
P.S. I DON'T CARE ABOUT KNOX AND SUCH CRAP. THE FIRST DAY I GET MY PHONE IT'S GONNA BE ROOTED AND WITH TWRP INSTALLED.
Try Helium app from goggle --> „Helium - App Sync and Backup”
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup or try Titanium Backup
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Try Helium app from goggle --> „Helium - App Sync and Backup”
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup or try Titanium Backup
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Will do, but will any of the methods I described work? I just don't wanna install an app if it is possible just with TWRP.
I have used titanium backup pro for 5 years and even more phones. I have never had a problem with any of the backups or restores.
metalfan78 said:
I have used titanium backup pro for 5 years and even more phones. I have never had a problem with any of the backups or restores.
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Titanium is the best. Additionally you can remove or frezze system app....
Ok. Titanium it is then. 10x for the help guys
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koragg97 said:
Ok. Titanium it is then. 10x for the help guys
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My Backup Pro is also a good choice.
koragg97 said:
P.S. I DON'T CARE ABOUT KNOX AND SUCH CRAP. THE FIRST DAY I GET MY PHONE IT'S GONNA BE ROOTED AND WITH TWRP INSTALLED.
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+1 for Titanium backup.
Other method, google for nandroid manager (need root so).
Just copy your (previous) recovery backup on phone, and restore via nandroid manager all that you want.
Be aware of system apps not to restore of course.
Good luck
Franky
fgth90 said:
+1 for Titanium backup.
Other method, google for nandroid manager (need root so).
Just copy your (previous) recovery backup on phone, and restore via nandroid manager all that you want.
Be aware of system apps not to restore of course.
Good luck
Franky
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Won't this actually work just by hitting restore in TWRP and choosing only the "data" part of my backup (why an app)? Or maybe TWRP won't recognise my S3 Mini backup, because it's from another phone?
koragg97 said:
Won't this actually work just by hitting restore in TWRP and choosing only the "data" part of my backup (why an app)? Or maybe TWRP won't recognise my S3 Mini backup, because it's from another phone?
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No, I don't think so.
AFAIK, restoring data will restore all data without restrictions, and it could be bad if you come from another phone or ROM.
With nandroid manager, you can choose what you want to restore (app or app+data) for user app or system app, for every app you want.
You have to copy your last backup from old phone to new one, choose it by nandroid manager then navigate for options of restore.
You can restore bluetooth-wifi pairings, sms, mms, call logs, and apps (app or app+data).
Google for a tuto on "how to", here's an exemple http://www.informationlord.com/how-to-restore-nandroid-backup-without-cwm/.
Good luck
Franky
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No, I don't think so.
AFAIK, restoring data will restore all data without restrictions, and it could be bad if you come from another phone or ROM.
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I think that choosing Advanced Restore in TWRP settings gets you to this window and then you choose what to restore. It's the same with backing up, you choose backup and then select with "x" the partitions you wanna backup. I just didn't know if restoring just "data" will break my phone, but now I know it won't, because when the phone is new there aren't going to be any apps installed in the "data" partition (all are pre-installed in "system"). So I'll just have to go to TWRP, choose advanced restore and only select "data" with "x", then swipe to restore. If something goes wrong I can always go back to recovery and wipe "data" (I'll still have all of my system apps) or even flash a stock ROM with Odin
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I think that choosing Advanced Restore in TWRP settings gets you to this window and then you choose what to restore. It's the same with backing up, you choose backup and then select with "x" the partitions you wanna backup. I just didn't know if restoring just "data" will break my phone, but now I know it won't, because when the phone is new there aren't going to be any apps installed in the "data" partition (all are pre-installed in "system"). So I'll just have to go to TWRP, choose advanced restore and only select "data" with "x", then swipe to restore. If something goes wrong I can always go back to recovery and wipe "data" (I'll still have all of my system apps) or even flash a stock ROM with Odin
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Yep, starting from zero = you risk nothing
Could you please report and say if it's ok or not (just to have the info).
Thanks in advance
Franky
fgth90 said:
Yep, starting from zero = you risk nothing
Could you please report and say if it's ok or not (just to have the info).
Thanks in advance
Franky
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Ok, but I'm not getting my S5 since Christmas (maybe even February) so you might have to wait a bit Thanks for the tips, though
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koragg97 said:
Ok, but I'm not getting my S5 since Christmas (maybe even February) so you might have to wait a bit Thanks for the tips, though
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the least we can say is that you'll be prepared!
fgth90 said:
the least we can say is that you'll be prepared!
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Yup xD
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It's almost here
My S5 arrives next week I'm gonna use this app, because I don't want to restore all of my apps (gonna flash Alliance 5.6 so.. xD). Will report if it works, as promised
A word of caution.......
Your new S5 will be preinstalled with KK.
If your old phone has a different version of Android, be VERY cautious about installing app data.....There is a very good chance that doing so will cause instability and force closes of your apps.......
Restoring the apps themselves this way shouldn't cause any issue......you'll just see a message that says something like "android is upgrading.......1 of xx apps" before your phone starts.....but as I said, data *may* prove to be a whole other issue.......
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Sooo... here I am. It worked 50% with ZipMe. Apps copied but their data didn't.
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Any one have any suggestions on doing backups on the phone? I had titanium backup as a root option, but I do not know of anything for non rooted phones. Thoughts?
Smart switch from samsung.
ravijani said:
Smart switch from samsung.
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Does it do a full backup? And to where, PC? The only reason I'm thinking of installing TWRP is to allow system/data full backup, in case boot failures happen (like it occasionally did w/ my previous N4). Hope there's a way w/ stock.
Helium backup used to do a full backup without root but it hasn't been updated in a couple of years now.
ravijani said:
Smart switch from samsung.
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Doesnt do a good job. I managed to crash my operating system and not everything was restorable.
sherpa25 said:
Does it do a full backup? And to where, PC? The only reason I'm thinking of installing TWRP is to allow system/data full backup, in case boot failures happen (like it occasionally did w/ my previous N4). Hope there's a way w/ stock.
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Smart switch is best that gets all things backed up but do not restore it on bumped version of android or another device that would brick or crash phone.
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Doesnt do a good job. I managed to crash my operating system and not everything was restorable.
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Did u restore on same samsung ux/note9 version backup or you had note 8/ other samsung phone backup you restored?
ravijani said:
Smart switch is best that gets all things backed up but do not restore it on bumped version of android or another device that would brick or crash phone.
Did u restore on same samsung ux/note9 version backup or you had note 8/ other samsung phone backup you restored?
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Same verison and phone.
In addition both Google and Samsung backup are useful
ravijani said:
Smart switch is best that gets all things backed up but do not restore it on bumped version of android or another device that would brick or crash phone.
Did u restore on same samsung ux/note9 version backup or you had note 8/ other samsung phone backup you restored?
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I backed up my note 8 minus all the substratum overlays and restored it to my note 9 , no issues.
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Limeybastard said:
I backed up my note 8 minus all the substratum overlays and restored it to my note 9 , no issues.
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Can it do a backup to PC, aside from to SD Card? Currently have no need for a new SD Card, and my existing lacks space.
Saw an app SynciOS but haven't tried it yet.
I used helium for backing up and restoring data. It works. For some reason it did not restore the apk's which you can restore from smart switch or google, or just manually. Then Helium can restore the data after the app is installed.
Without root there is NO option to backup app data as titanium does. Helium only backups the data of a FEW apps, but even then it doesnt work 100%
sadly smart switch doesnt backup app data
so if you want to 100% backup all of ur app data, ur gonna need to root and install titanium
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Can it do a backup to PC, aside from to SD Card? Currently have no need for a new SD Card, and my existing lacks space.
Saw an app SynciOS but haven't tried it yet.
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Yes I use smartswitch to back to my PC .
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Limeybastard said:
Yes I use smartswitch to back to my PC .
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I dont see an option in Smart Switch to backup to PC. Can you show a screenshot of the option to do that? This is all I see, attached.
sherpa25 said:
I dont see an option in Smart Switch to backup to PC. Can you show a screenshot of the option to do that? This is all I see, attached.
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You need to download smartswitch app for your PC as well as the Samsung usb drivers I believe as a prerequisite.
You're basically going to use the PC version , not the phone version to backup to PC.
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You need to download smartswitch app for your PC as well as the Samsung usb drivers I believe as a prerequisite.
You're basically going to use the PC version , not the phone version to backup to PC.
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Got that, will try it out tom. Thanks.