As many of you know, I had a kernel named Singularity. I chose to cease development. As users still want the kernel, I am looking for someone to take over. If you are interested PM and if I decide your serious Ill give you the source
I would love it if someone would take this over! I don't know Jack about coding but have been very happy with the kernel. Maybe one of the kernel devs could build it as a side project to their own or at least go through the code and give some feedback as to the viability of adopting it...
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As many of you know, I had a kernel named Singularity. I chose to cease development. As users still want the kernel, I am looking for someone to take over. If you are interested PM and if I decide your serious Ill give you the source
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Why not just release the source? I'm sure someone will take over or put the features into another kernel.
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Why not just release the source? I'm sure someone will take over or put the features into another kernel.
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if its on XDA, then sourse is released.
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if its on XDA, then sourse is released.
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its not on xda anymore and the source isn't either.
I wish i had the time and ingenuity to take it.
But I don't.
If I were to do it updates would be inconsistent and I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to keep it up nearly as well as apophis did.
But thank you @apophis9283 for the offer to allow someone to take over
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its not on xda anymore and the source isn't either.
I wish i had the time and ingenuity to take it.
But I don't.
If I were to do it updates would be inconsistent and I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to keep it up nearly as well as apophis did.
But thank you @apophis9283 for the offer to allow someone to take over
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I really wish I could keep the kernel alive. I put 4 years into XDA with various projects. Being burnt out doesnt even begin to describe how I feel. I promise if I change my mind down the road Ill let everyone know
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I really wish I could keep the kernel alive. I put 4 years into XDA with various projects. Being burnt out doesnt even begin to describe how I feel. I promise if I change my mind down the road Ill let everyone know
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I just added cpuquiet to my source. I am going to test it and just post source here for anyone who wants it. I dont need one person to carry on the kernel, everyone can have access and it will go on that way. Have fun.
EDIT: https://gitlab.com/apophis9283/Singularity
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I just added cpuquiet to my source. I am going to test it and just post source here for anyone who wants it. I dont need one person to carry on the kernel, everyone can have access and it will go on that way.
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That will be so awesome and appreciated!
I know I will be building it myself every now and then when I have time.
Thanks again!
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That will be so awesome and appreciated!
I know I will be building it myself every now and then when I have time.
Thanks again!
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Not a problem. Didnt want to be an ass. I still add things every now and then. So everyone is welcome to check back now and then. I just felt that this wasnt just my work, its the work of many. Many should be able to enjoy it.
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Not a problem. Didnt want to be an ass. I still add things every now and then. So everyone is welcome to check back now and then. I just felt that this wasnt just my work, its the work of many. Many should be able to enjoy it.
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Thank you for your work. You were one of the most involved, and concerned devs I've encountered in what I call the "neo-XDA" era. I'm sad to hear about this, but am glad you are putting yourself first. Enjoy your time away.
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Thank you for your work. You were one of the most involved, and concerned devs I've encountered in what I call the "neo-XDA" era. I'm sad to hear about this, but am glad you are putting yourself first. Enjoy your time away.
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I assume you are talking about iamtheonetheycallneo?
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I assume you are talking about iamtheonetheycallneo?
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No sir. You and uh, I think it was Yoinx that ran the Singularity thread, right???? You guys worked really hard to get it up and running for us low binned guys.
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No sir. You and uh, I think it was Yoinx that ran the Singularity thread, right???? You guys worked really hard to get it up and running for us low binned guys.
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Yeah that was Yoinx. Hes a great guy, I actually didnt know that some phones had a lower bin. This was my first kernel. You said neo-era. I thought you were talking about neo the developer who is now a mod. He actually tought me about android. Neo has been an amazing friend for almost 4 years. I stand by Yoinx. Great guy and highly intelligent. He was the one who taught me about kernels.
I will be updated the kernel soon. This in no way means I want to do it for the masses. Just stuff I'm doing for myself but you have my source and you can compile it yourself.
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I will be updated the kernel soon. This in no way means I want to do it for the masses. Just stuff I'm doing for myself but you have my source and you can compile it yourself.
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Sad to hear that you're burned out... But Glad that you're embracing what open source is about.
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Sad to hear that you're burned out... But Glad that you're embracing what open source is about.
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Thanks. Loving the app
Im trying to get the state helper stuff along with the new msm limiter stuff. Could be a minute
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Im trying to get the state helper stuff along with the new msm limiter stuff. Could be a minute
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My fork's already supporting it app-side, so that's done. I managed to knock out getting that uploaded during a port call.
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Just curious, we had custom roms within hours of dk28. Of course, I'm referring to custom roms other than daemon's deodexed rom
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Because you haven't made one yet.
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Because you haven't made one yet.
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Check the Epic 4G Android Development forum.
Please give the devs time, they have a life too....
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Wow there must be an echo in here
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Please give the devs time, they have a life too....
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False. I demand that they release EB13 custom roms now.
They have custom EB13 roms finished already they're just being greedy and not releasing them. All the big name rom devs are styling on people right now with their custom roms.
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They have custom EB13 roms finished already they're just being greedy and not releasing them. All the big name rom devs are styling on people right now with their custom roms.
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True,Im testing mine... But I think most devs are waiting for a couple things to be finished first. I'm really waiting for a super kernel,OCed and UVed all the way,Meat (xjman) should be working on one,and his kernels for the Moment were the best.If he dosnt have one finished I think Ill use genocide kernel in my ROM. I realy want a new LP to modify,and I want wifi tether 3.0 to be finished. But you will see mine by Saturday night... echo echo echo eco eco ecooce
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The devs are holding out on us. Such BS. We pay them all this money to make these great ROMs, how dare they! Oh, wait, they do it FOR FREE! We dont have to pay them anything. So stop complaining, they will release eb13 ROMs when they are stable and working properly. Thank you Devs for all of your hard work, you have made owning my epic so awesome.
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The devs are holding out on us. Such BS. We pay them all this money to make these great ROMs, how dare they! Oh, wait, they do it FOR FREE! We dont have to pay them anything. So stop complaining, they will release eb13 ROMs when they are stable and working properly. Thank you Devs for all of your hard work, you have made owning my epic so awesome.
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amen!
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The devs are holding out on us. Such BS. We pay them all this money to make these great ROMs, how dare they! Oh, wait, they do it FOR FREE! We dont have to pay them anything. So stop complaining, they will release eb13 ROMs when they are stable and working properly. Thank you Devs for all of your hard work, you have made owning my epic so awesome.
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Donate. |
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Donate. |
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Its just that. A DONATION. They don't work for you, or for the money.
Hahaha, if only you guys got to use my private ROMs ....no one has ever gotten a chance to test out the WDM's Android ROMs....yet
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Hahaha, if only you guys got to use my private ROMs ....no one has ever gotten a chance to test out the WDM's Android ROMs....yet
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teaser, need a tester?
Couldn't agree more with previous posts. Surely donate to devs you appreciate, particularly if you get comfortable and use their rom almost exclusively. But never believe you've "hired" them because you haven't. In fact in some cases devs may lose that 'warm and fuzzy' feeling they get from sharing their great work with grateful users if they feel those users are just greedy and needy wanting everything handed to them.
I fix computers for friends/acquantances all the time, and when I know someone a) will appreciate it and b) has put effort in to fix an issue themselves already, I actively bug them to let me help them fix it. Some other people (my sister is one) assume that because their friends/relatives that I should drop everything I'm doing at any given moment, or at the end of a very long day of work and immediately run over to their house (even if it's a laptop) and fix whatever issue they're having at the moment. This usually before they've even attempted fixing it themselves. Those people don't usually get my help even when I do have the time...
Just some food for thought. It wasn't necessarily a bad question (maybe if it was asked next week or 2 weeks from now I might be wondering if they were having issues with sammy's source code or something), I just know that especially with such a small development community, I want the devs to know that we're mostly very grateful for any great work that is shared with us, and also that we the users are here to try and help provide constructive feedback regarding bugs, fixes, features etc anyway we can. Keep the good times rolling devs!
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When dk28 was released many new roms popped up..right now most developers of roms already implemented a lot of customizations over time..these customizations need to be tested and etc..
Not to mention since there i source it leaves a lot of room for improvement..EB133 stock is a pretty good rom..and improving upon it takes time...
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Wow there must be an echo in here
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Wait..your saying someone actually bought that phone?
azichek said:
The devs are holding out on us. Such BS. We pay them all this money to make these great ROMs, how dare they! Oh, wait, they do it FOR FREE! We dont have to pay them anything. So stop complaining, they will release eb13 ROMs when they are stable and working properly. Thank you Devs for all of your hard work, you have made owning my epic so awesome.
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who's complaining?
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Its just that. A DONATION. They don't work for you, or for the money.
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You should donate.
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You should donate.
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Yea at least these chicks and dudes are a lot faster than the samsung peeps were at getting us updates. Should be thankful we get new roms as fast as we do!
Alright, I feel terrible asking for this but its getting hard to create scripts, etc to interact with the Evo shift when I don't have one as I'm really nervous about releasing un-tested things when I would much rather just test myself to confirm the safety of the script and I'm glad nothing has gone wrong yet but if I decide to change some of my scripts and if it has potential to break something, I would prefer it happen to a device that I own.
It doesn't need to work perfectly I would prefer just have a functioning touch screen and -most- things working, but since it's a free device it can really be in any condition (even bricks as if I get a broken one that works, I can use it as parts.) This isn't saying I want someone to just blindly give me their phone and expect it back in like a week because there is always a potential for a bricked device. So, if you donate one, I would love you forever and every shifter can thank you for my scripts not breaking their phones.
Pm me if you want to help me out. Alot of people in this community know that I have an issue with doing this but they also know it's difficult for me to work on the shift without one. Thanks for atleast reading this guys.
You know my situation... we'll see what we can do once Shifty #1 kicks the bucket.
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I tried to get them to let me keep my broken device but they wouldn't give me a replacement without taking the old one :/ I thought this would be the case but it was worth a try.
Bro if i had money I would just buy you one. But.. I quit my job sooo... I'm broke.
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thronnos said:
Bro if i had money I would just buy you one. But.. I quit my job sooo... I'm broke.
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I really appreciate the thought though Thronnos.
I should have an extra shift in about a week. If it comes thru consider it urs. My brother is jumping ship and going to Verizon. I'm trying to get his shift. I'll let u know.
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CRIME INC. said:
I should have an extra shift in about a week. If it comes thru consider it urs. My brother is jumping ship and going to Verizon. I'm trying to get his shift. I'll let u know.
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That is MUCH appreciated Crime. Thanks alot man.
Indirect said:
That is MUCH appreciated Crime. Thanks alot man.
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Dont thank me yet lol im still waiting to see if he comes thru lol. But i love this phone and anything i can do to keep development alive is worth it.
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I understand that but I'm appreciative of the effort atleast.
What the hell, xIndirect? First you steal batch scripts now you want to steal an evo shift? Thief!
/sarcasm
Hope you get ashift to work on, bro.
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What the hell, xIndirect? First you steal batch scripts now you want to steal an evo shift? Thief!
/sarcasm
Hope you get ashift to work on, bro.
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You caught me hoesnaps.
Kidding, thanks for the wishing of the universal commodity known as luck
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You caught me hoesnaps.
Kidding, thanks for the wishing of the universal commodity known as luck
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I'm curious to know what you mean by batch scripts? The OP is very vauge on explaining what they accually do or what the main funtions are. Batch scripts are for windows, and I'm running linux. So are we talking about pc scripts that are to work with our android devices via usb? Or are they android scripts? I don't want to view the scripts as they are not mine to view. But I would like to know the general functions if at all possible. Perhaps someone would donate a device if they knew more about these batch scripts and what they do Give us something to look forward to. Me personally am taking a break on my own development projects for quite awhile. If I had a extra phone I would donate it if there was good enough cause.
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I'm curious to know what you mean by batch scripts? The OP is very vauge on explaining what they accually do or what the main funtions are. Batch scripts are for windows, and I'm running linux. So are we talking about pc scripts that are to work with our android devices via usb? Or are they android scripts? I don't want to view the scripts as they are not mine to view. But I would like to know the general functions if at all possible. Perhaps someone would donate a device if they knew more about these batch scripts and what they do Give us something to look forward to. Me personally am taking a break on my own development projects for quite awhile. If I had a extra phone I would donate it if there was good enough cause.
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Basically i am working on creating scripts to interact with android via usb and i would like to take time to learn BASH to script it for a linux system but i dont know that much yet so meh. I create scripts like fre3atlast, y2max (wimax backup and restore), and im redoing lazyass.
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Basically i am working on creating scripts to interact with android via usb and i would like to take time to learn BASH to script it for a linux system but i dont know that much yet so meh. I create scripts like fre3atlast, y2max (wimax backup and restore), and im redoing lazyass.
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Yeah I saw your sticky post right before xda went down for maintence, so I didn't have time to edit my post. But if you don't mind I wouldn't mind helping to port this for linux. I have made linux shell scripts in the past. Does it require adb to be working or is it completly seperate from adb?
I added you sparks.
Any luck on that spare shift Crime Inc?
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Any luck on that spare shift Crime Inc?
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Havent heard from my brother in a few days. Give me till tomorrow and ill know something.
sent using a freaking pigeon, with a note tied to its leg
Alright, just PM me if he comes through.
Crime Inc fell through...kinda disappointing.
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Crime Inc fell through...kinda disappointing.
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You know what you've got to do then... trade in that busted old Evo of your grandma's for a real man's phone
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I would like to take a moment and humbly thank AllDroid.org for supporting my campaign to keep Android development moving forward as a community. We are a single voice reminding everyone that as much as we are Android, Android is us.​
Yeah, still downloading...
Hey man. Every one I've downloaded the past couple of days gives me the same sideload error lol
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Hey man. Every one I've downloaded the past couple of days gives me the same sideload error lol
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If it helps, I don't think we will have quite as many of those issues anymore.
Gotcha good stuff. What causes the error?
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Gotcha good stuff. What causes the error?
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40% not using proper neutral text editors on all the install scripts, 20% the mistake of trying to make the built universal, and another 20% bad file combinations.
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So when i install the base, I boot to the unlock screen and cannot get the screen to unlock due to screen inaccuracy. When I try to flash the port I receive an error and the installation aborts.
So, now that ICS has been released to AOSP, do you think these small bugs will be worked out?
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So, now that ICS has been released to AOSP, do you think these small bugs will be worked out?
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Please read post 1, paragraph 1.
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I guess I'm confused as well... AOSP was released and that is not the entire source?
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I guess I'm confused as well... AOSP was released and that is not the entire source?
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The nexus source was released. In Git terms, it is just one branch.
And apparently I am going to have disappearing ink...(meaning you all get to miss my witty responses to the random comments)
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This is a development thread. We know about source. We know what was and wasn't released. This is not a place for general questions or chit-chat. If you have something to contribute, please post. If not, hit the thanks button, pull up a chair, and wait with the rest of us.
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This is a development thread. We know about source. We know what was and wasn't released. This is not a place for general questions or chit-chat. If you have something to contribute, please post. If not, hit the thanks button, pull up a chair, and wait with the rest of us.
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*smack* yeah, I am still trying to put together a frankenstein build process for the mecha. Right now it is a little ugly, but it is starting to make sense.
...and another case of dew gives its life to the cause...
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kite edit: well, it wasn't aimed at you, obviously
Not sure if I know what I am doing, but when the poop hits the propeller, I have never had to build source that wasn't already at least somewhat modified for my device.
I got all the proprietary stuff, the countless extra common additions, and now it seems I have to go find all the hardware build parts missing because all we got was a nexus layout and dashed hopes of much more.
It may or may not be realistic to just merge in the missing parts, but at least it is a good start. Everything is configured to work, it just wants some stuff I am still downloading.
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I downloaded and built ICS today. However, it is based on a 3.0 kernel and HTC hasn't released the source for that yet. It would make things go a lot faster if they release it soon.
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I downloaded and built ICS today. However, it is based on a 3.0 kernel and HTC hasn't released the source for that yet. It would make things go a lot faster if they release it soon.
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Is your build functional
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I am starting a fund to get a Nexus S and port directly from the device. After looking over this source, that seems to be more realistic than attempting to rewrite the entire thing.
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Is your build functional
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Have you ever built android from source? Do you know what we have? Do you know what you're asking?
Development. I think if this guy had built something that ran he'd mention it.
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Have you ever built android from source? Do you know what we have? Do you know what you're asking?
Development. I think if this guy had built something that ran he'd mention it.
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I will post every detail I can, but I will admit a lot of it is currently mixed in with DHD and Dinc, as we have been working as one team instead of separate devices. I will make a point to link up what has been going on soon. That was overlooked on my part.
The builds in the first post are functional, but the version being built from source should not and will not be a [email protected]$$ rip -off of another device. That is costing time...
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Ffej5647 said:
oh wow! look at you being a cool forum mod on the internet! You show your authority foo!
A lot of people say they did something and oh yeah i rooted the inc...oh yeah where is the method...ummmm tell you in a week or so just making sure i can release it...couple days later it was all fake. It mostly always is. If people make claims they should show proof but you believe everything everyone says you amazing mod you.
ps: if someone makes a dumb comment ignore it. bc your a mod doesnt mean you can shoot off dumb*** comments, not everyone is as smart as you im sorry to say it.
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While I do not always agree with the Mods on this forum, I have been in contact with the one keeping a watch over this forum and he has a good understanding of what is and isnt relevant. He responded to make a valid point because a lot of the posts that have been removed are the direct result of not reading the first post. There have been MANY posts throughout the entire site pushing for releases only days after the initial release of a partial source. I think it is best you keep in mind, that nothing he said is directly rude unless you choose to read it that way.
To read up on a lot of the details of what is going on, a lot of the work is better documented http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343361
Ever since FCM came out, seems like everyone and their mothers making ROMS...
Have you noticed that the quality of ROMS gone down since the FCM release?
Do you find it annoying to seee 4 different CM9 KANG's without the ability to know which one would be best to use ?
Not saying I dont appreciate the FREE ROMS... but, I mean, seems like people are just quickly slappying together a few quick mods on someone elses ROM, renaming it.. then calling it their own.
I dont know, to me, thats not development...
/Rant
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Ever since FCM came out, seems like everyone and their mothers making ROMS...
Have you noticed that the quality of ROMS gone down since the FCM release?
Do you find it annoying to seee 4 different CM9 KANG's without the ability to know which one would be best to use ?
Not saying I dont appreciate the FREE ROMS... but, I mean, seems like people are just quickly slappying together a few quick mods on someone elses ROM, renaming it.. then calling it their own.
I dont know, to me, thats not development...
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Wow... just wow.
Joker's been nice enough to help port his work on the PHOTON to us Atrix users, so we have something more capable to play with until another version of CM9 comes out and you're complaining?
If you're going to bash other people's work for no reason, the least you could do is keep up as to why things are happening they way they are...
Solution: DONT FLASH IT!
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Wow... just wow.
Joker's been nice enough to help port his work on the PHOTON to us Atrix users, so we have something more capable to play with until another version of CM9 comes out and you're complaining?
If you're going to bash other people's work for no reason, the least you could do is keep up as to why things are happening they way they are...
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I think its even worst... Isnt he implying that we shloud blame sammcrip for releasing FCM and starting this influx of ROMS? It just amazes me how ungratefull and lazzy people can be.
Thanks all the devs for all this ROMs! I can use the search feature and filter all the junk from the good stuff. UHAaaaa! Im a smart n00b.
Peace.
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Wow... just wow.
Joker's been nice enough to help port his work on the PHOTON to us Atrix users, so we have something more capable to play with until another version of CM9 comes out and you're complaining?
If you're going to bash other people's work for no reason, the least you could do is keep up as to why things are happening they way they are...
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I don't think he is bashing anyone. He is just pointing out that once anyone with little skill or talent can put other people's "tweaks" together and produce a rom in a few clicks you forgo quality for quantity
I don't use fcm so your point is invalid, although I do thank sam for making it.
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Ever since FCM came out, seems like everyone and their mothers making ROMS...
Have you noticed that the quality of ROMS gone down since the FCM release?
Do you find it annoying to seee 4 different CM9 KANG's without the ability to know which one would be best to use ?
Not saying I dont appreciate the FREE ROMS... but, I mean, seems like people are just quickly slappying together a few quick mods on someone elses ROM, renaming it.. then calling it their own.
I dont know, to me, thats not development...
/Rant
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I don't use fcm so your point is invalid, although I do thank sam for making it.
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I doubt his generalization was directed towards you personally...
Reread the op
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I doubt his generalization was directed towards you personally...
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Reread the op
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I have, show me were he calls you out specifically? Unless you classify your self as everyone and there mothers...
ssmr2t said:
Ever since FCM came out, seems like everyone and their mothers making ROMS...
Have you noticed that the quality of ROMS gone down since the FCM release?
Do you find it annoying to seee 4 different CM9 KANG's without the ability to know which one would be best to use ?
Not saying I dont appreciate the FREE ROMS... but, I mean, seems like people are just quickly slappying together a few quick mods on someone elses ROM, renaming it.. then calling it their own.
I dont know, to me, thats not development...
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The new roms are from cm9 kangs, which fcm has nothing to do with, and rdanner's ports. Which also have nothing to do with fcm. We also have Nottach making a new rom based on 2.3.6, and marko doing the same thing. Once again, neither have any affiliation with fcm... So what's the problem with development kicking off?
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Well I thought a development boom was a good thing. If you read descriptions they might say alpha build and if you think some of the newer roms aren't as high quality stick with what you know. I personally like choices and trying new things. Waiting patiently for miui to improve haven't touched cm9 probably wont until camera works. Just consider things and read what works before you flash things.
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I have, show me were he calls you out specifically? Unless you classify your self as everyone and there mothers...
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In case you don't know, joker is one of the devs compiled/posted a CM9 kang. The OP targeted the CM9 kangs among other ROMs. Look at the dev section.
Look, I apologize if my post came off as I was bashing.. I was not bashing.
Endlessevo get's where I am coming from... FCM is a great thing, I love it!
Basically, He hit the nail on the head.. It's quantity ~ Quality thing...
EXAMPLE: I see some ROMS which warrant framework changes for animation purposes, etc... The same thing can be achieved by using Rom Toolbox pro..... Change the fonts.. add a wallpaper pack, launcher, put another kernel... FCM it, give it some random name, and now you have a new ROM.
I totally agree with Dev's like nootiach (spelling?) who put little hidden boobie traps in their work so people can warrant the credit where it is due.
I guess what I am trying to get at is, I miss groundbreaking work~!!! Like, when CM was ported, or Miui.. This is some groundbreaking stuff.. Now you go to the dev. section, and you have a handful of CM9 kangs
Sorry if Im ranting... but I want to talk to someone about it... Jesus christ, if I talk to my wife about it, she'd be pissed I spend this much thought on this
/rant
ssmr2t said:
Look, I apologize if my post came off as I was bashing.. I was not bashing.
Endlessevo get's where I am coming from... FCM is a great thing, I love it!
Basically, He hit the nail on the head.. It's quantity ~ Quality thing...
EXAMPLE: I see some ROMS which warrant framework changes for animation purposes, etc... The same thing can be achieved by using Rom Toolbox pro..... Change the fonts.. add a wallpaper pack, launcher, put another kernel... FCM it, give it some random name, and now you have a new ROM.
I totally agree with Dev's like nootiach (spelling?) who put little hidden boobie traps in their work so people can warrant the credit where it is due.
I guess what I am trying to get at is, I miss groundbreaking work~!!! Like, when CM was ported, or Miui.. This is some groundbreaking stuff.. Now you go to the dev. section, and you have a handful of CM9 kangs
Sorry if Im ranting... but I want to talk to someone about it... Jesus christ, if I talk to my wife about it, she'd be pissed I spend this much thought on this
/rant
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Because there isn't a whole lot more to do to our phones except optimizing what we have already, and porting over android 4.0. Our dev team isn't done, but the groundbreaking work that you want is.
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BTW, I am really stoked for CM9 and the future beyond.. The work that goes into all this is difficult. Maybe deep down inside, It is me just getting bored with the hobby?
Sorry about the post, and I respect all the guys who do, do this.
I don't think you quite understand what kang means.
All unofficial cm roms are kangs, even ones that are in development to become official cm. Like mine. To become official everything major must work without breaking other phones. So if you want official cm9 someone must fix the problems. The little groundbreaking work you are wanting is the kangs. Yes the atrix team laid ground work to get cm9 ported but they stopped working on it. I was given cm9 only a few weeks ago when the photon cm dev moved to a different phone. He didn't even have cm9 up. Only cm7. I'm not making a temporary kang to satisfy ics thirst. I'm making the fixes to go official.
Also if you read up only one cm9 is current and going forward. Guess who's
Btw I don't even have an atrix, I'm blind building
ssmr2t said:
Look, I apologize if my post came off as I was bashing.. I was not bashing.
Endlessevo get's where I am coming from... FCM is a great thing, I love it!
Basically, He hit the nail on the head.. It's quantity ~ Quality thing...
EXAMPLE: I see some ROMS which warrant framework changes for animation purposes, etc... The same thing can be achieved by using Rom Toolbox pro..... Change the fonts.. add a wallpaper pack, launcher, put another kernel... FCM it, give it some random name, and now you have a new ROM.
I totally agree with Dev's like nootiach (spelling?) who put little hidden boobie traps in their work so people can warrant the credit where it is due.
I guess what I am trying to get at is, I miss groundbreaking work~!!! Like, when CM was ported, or Miui.. This is some groundbreaking stuff.. Now you go to the dev. section, and you have a handful of CM9 kangs
Sorry if Im ranting... but I want to talk to someone about it... Jesus christ, if I talk to my wife about it, she'd be pissed I spend this much thought on this
/rant
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Yep, your probably correct
Again, not bashing anyone.
AND... Thats freaking nuts to be blind building. My mind cant work that way
Ah, good old fashioned elitism.
"We dare not allow yon peons to learn reading nor writing, lest they gain initiative!"
Quantity and quality are not mutually exclusive. that's the Apple Mentality, and its a trap.
I find in the [SIMILAR] Linux communities lots of fresh blood means a greater chance for future prodigys and dedicated devs. Give folks a chance, and practice discretion when flashing.
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In case you don't know, joker is one of the devs compiled/posted a CM9 kang. The OP targeted the CM9 kangs among other ROMs. Look at the dev section.
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I did check to see if that's what he was being so butt hurt about. I figured because it was a second thought to his original rant and the fact joker defended the wrong part of the rant he knew why he was defending himself.
His complaints about the KANG's was not being able to tell the difference between them, not that they were simple tweaks turned into roms.
Long day. Plus complaining about free work equals thread
xhazk said:
Ah, good old fashioned elitism.
"We dare not allow yon peons to learn reading nor writing, lest they gain initiative!"
Quantity and quality are not mutually exclusive. that's the Apple Mentality, and its a trap.
I find in the [SIMILAR] Linux communities lots of fresh blood means a greater chance for future prodigys and dedicated devs. Give folks a chance, and practice discretion when flashing.
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At this point, things that don't work are the things I need to work. Nothing has changed for nearly two months now, so I'm just curious.
the impatience and greed around here is unbelievable...
if you want something to be fully working and perfect, you gotta make it yourself. plus rushing things isn't gonna do any good at all. it will come, just be patient... be glad we even have a Sense 4 ROM...
Dude, seriously, it was a question. That's it. Not a complaint, not impatience, and not greed. The assumptions of others on this forum is what is really unbelievable. I knew that some joker would answer back like that.
Saranhai is part of the team that brings a lot of ROM's to this device. He is probably a little frustrated that it seems like is never good enough, or fast enough for people. Your question may have been honest and purely innocent, but with the way things have been around here lately his reaction is somewhat understandable.
Several devs are hard at work on sense 4 kernels and the camera. When they have a usable fix, it will be released. If you want to add to their resolve you could always donate
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Dude, seriously, it was a question. That's it. Not a complaint, not impatience, and not greed. The assumptions of others on this forum is what is really unbelievable. I knew that some joker would answer back like that.
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I'm patiently waiting too. And so you know, I'm posting this in a good mood, not frustrated or being smart. But from what I understand is its basically at a standstill until devs can get the necassary kernel to get the camera working. It's not that they are being slow..they simply don't have what's needed to accomplish it. And I may be entirely wrong..that's just what I have been thinking.
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Don_Perrignon said:
Dude, seriously, it was a question. That's it. Not a complaint, not impatience, and not greed. The assumptions of others on this forum is what is really unbelievable. I knew that some joker would answer back like that.
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Well maybe you should've worded it better than instead of sounding like a selfish idiot... Anyway sorry for "assuming"
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jjbadd385 said:
I'm patiently waiting too. And so you know, I'm posting this in a good mood, not frustrated or being smart. But from what I understand is its basically at a standstill until devs can get the necassary kernel to get the camera working. It's not that they are being slow..they simply don't have what's needed to accomplish it. And I may be entirely wrong..that's just what I have been thinking.
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Okay. I understand, not saying anybody is being slow. I just wanted to know what the issue was. It's crazy that Sense seems to be the most troublesome UI.
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Well maybe you should've worded it better than instead of sounding like a selfish idiot... Anyway sorry for "assuming"
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Take it at face value MF. It's my fault that you put your own thoughts into a simple question? Seriously, it's all too common on XDA for people to needlessly attack others on the basis that people are too sensitive.
See the answer that JJ gave? That's all that we needed. I wanted to know the issues the devs were facing? If anything I was concerned, because I've never seen something give this kind of trouble on this phone. We all appreciate the works that devs do. We all act like kids in a candy store for the work that devs do.
Team Inferno member ...Awesome... is releasing a One S port. Yes, One S. Hope that fits your needs (besides camera )
Don_Perrignon said:
At this point, things that don't work are the things I need to work. Nothing has changed for nearly two months now, so I'm just curious.
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if you did any searching youd know it all depends on when HTC releases the 3.0 kernel and we can get some kernel devs to port it to our devices..
did you really need a thread to ask for an ETA on something thats not even meant for our phone? cmon son lol
I too am impatiently waiting for a upgrade
TO A ROM I DIDN'T MAKE FROM PEOPLE I DIDN'T PAY [AND YET i DEMAND MY RIGHTS] "WHAT A SNOB"
trofmoc said:
TO A ROM I DIDN'T MAKE FROM PEOPLE I DIDN'T PAY [AND YET i DEMAND MY RIGHTS] "WHAT A SNOB"
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Couldn't have summed it up better myself
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TO A ROM I DIDN'T MAKE FROM PEOPLE I DIDN'T PAY [AND YET i DEMAND MY RIGHTS] "WHAT A SNOB"
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You just summed up my thoughts to the OP and this thread...
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trofmoc said:
TO A ROM I DIDN'T MAKE FROM PEOPLE I DIDN'T PAY [AND YET i DEMAND MY RIGHTS] "WHAT A SNOB"
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Who the **** is demanding? It was a question wanting to the the issue the devs where facing.
Oooh i think this is gonna come to a close soon. Enough fighting
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I like cereal.
That is all.
People should stop getting butthurt so easily.
I2IEAILiiTY said:
I like cereal.
That is all.
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No way! Me too
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I think it got a little hot outside to the point it heated everything, even in the internet.... xD
The issue is that there's no HTC official kernel source for any "sister" devices - DHD/DS, and they didn't get the HTC ICS update either. Without the kernel source, devs have to use kernel source from other, less compatible devices to compile the kernel, and the binary drivers from those devices don't match the HW. There are no skilled enough and/or willing enough devs to dig in the kernel code and rewrite the API towards the drivers to match the older, working drivers from Gingerbread (that's what was done back in Gingerbread release time), mostly because it's a huge work that brings almost no benefits - the official code is likely to be better anyway, and its release will most likely be closer to this point in time than the shortest time required for "enthusiast" work.
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The issue is that there's no HTC official kernel source for any "sister" devices - DHD/DS, and they didn't get the HTC ICS update either. Without the kernel source, devs have to use kernel source from other, less compatible devices to compile the kernel, and the binary drivers from those devices don't match the HW. There are no skilled enough and/or willing enough devs to dig in the kernel code and rewrite the API towards the drivers to match the older, working drivers from Gingerbread (that's what was done back in Gingerbread release time), mostly because it's a huge work that brings almost no benefits - the official code is likely to be better anyway, and its release will most likely be closer to this point in time than the shortest time required for "enthusiast" work.
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I think in layman terms, that means if someone attempted to rewrite source code to match the h/w in the Glacier, by the time they would finish, better & more compatible code would be here anyway. So its best, at this point, to just wait patiently?
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