Just curious, we had custom roms within hours of dk28. Of course, I'm referring to custom roms other than daemon's deodexed rom
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Because you haven't made one yet.
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Because you haven't made one yet.
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Check the Epic 4G Android Development forum.
Please give the devs time, they have a life too....
Sent from my Epic 4G powered by STOCK Froyo 2.2.1 EB13
Wow there must be an echo in here
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Please give the devs time, they have a life too....
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False. I demand that they release EB13 custom roms now.
They have custom EB13 roms finished already they're just being greedy and not releasing them. All the big name rom devs are styling on people right now with their custom roms.
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They have custom EB13 roms finished already they're just being greedy and not releasing them. All the big name rom devs are styling on people right now with their custom roms.
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True,Im testing mine... But I think most devs are waiting for a couple things to be finished first. I'm really waiting for a super kernel,OCed and UVed all the way,Meat (xjman) should be working on one,and his kernels for the Moment were the best.If he dosnt have one finished I think Ill use genocide kernel in my ROM. I realy want a new LP to modify,and I want wifi tether 3.0 to be finished. But you will see mine by Saturday night... echo echo echo eco eco ecooce
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The devs are holding out on us. Such BS. We pay them all this money to make these great ROMs, how dare they! Oh, wait, they do it FOR FREE! We dont have to pay them anything. So stop complaining, they will release eb13 ROMs when they are stable and working properly. Thank you Devs for all of your hard work, you have made owning my epic so awesome.
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The devs are holding out on us. Such BS. We pay them all this money to make these great ROMs, how dare they! Oh, wait, they do it FOR FREE! We dont have to pay them anything. So stop complaining, they will release eb13 ROMs when they are stable and working properly. Thank you Devs for all of your hard work, you have made owning my epic so awesome.
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amen!
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azichek said:
The devs are holding out on us. Such BS. We pay them all this money to make these great ROMs, how dare they! Oh, wait, they do it FOR FREE! We dont have to pay them anything. So stop complaining, they will release eb13 ROMs when they are stable and working properly. Thank you Devs for all of your hard work, you have made owning my epic so awesome.
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Donate. |
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Donate. |
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Its just that. A DONATION. They don't work for you, or for the money.
Hahaha, if only you guys got to use my private ROMs ....no one has ever gotten a chance to test out the WDM's Android ROMs....yet
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Hahaha, if only you guys got to use my private ROMs ....no one has ever gotten a chance to test out the WDM's Android ROMs....yet
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teaser, need a tester?
Couldn't agree more with previous posts. Surely donate to devs you appreciate, particularly if you get comfortable and use their rom almost exclusively. But never believe you've "hired" them because you haven't. In fact in some cases devs may lose that 'warm and fuzzy' feeling they get from sharing their great work with grateful users if they feel those users are just greedy and needy wanting everything handed to them.
I fix computers for friends/acquantances all the time, and when I know someone a) will appreciate it and b) has put effort in to fix an issue themselves already, I actively bug them to let me help them fix it. Some other people (my sister is one) assume that because their friends/relatives that I should drop everything I'm doing at any given moment, or at the end of a very long day of work and immediately run over to their house (even if it's a laptop) and fix whatever issue they're having at the moment. This usually before they've even attempted fixing it themselves. Those people don't usually get my help even when I do have the time...
Just some food for thought. It wasn't necessarily a bad question (maybe if it was asked next week or 2 weeks from now I might be wondering if they were having issues with sammy's source code or something), I just know that especially with such a small development community, I want the devs to know that we're mostly very grateful for any great work that is shared with us, and also that we the users are here to try and help provide constructive feedback regarding bugs, fixes, features etc anyway we can. Keep the good times rolling devs!
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When dk28 was released many new roms popped up..right now most developers of roms already implemented a lot of customizations over time..these customizations need to be tested and etc..
Not to mention since there i source it leaves a lot of room for improvement..EB133 stock is a pretty good rom..and improving upon it takes time...
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Wow there must be an echo in here
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Wait..your saying someone actually bought that phone?
azichek said:
The devs are holding out on us. Such BS. We pay them all this money to make these great ROMs, how dare they! Oh, wait, they do it FOR FREE! We dont have to pay them anything. So stop complaining, they will release eb13 ROMs when they are stable and working properly. Thank you Devs for all of your hard work, you have made owning my epic so awesome.
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who's complaining?
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Its just that. A DONATION. They don't work for you, or for the money.
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You should donate.
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You should donate.
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Yea at least these chicks and dudes are a lot faster than the samsung peeps were at getting us updates. Should be thankful we get new roms as fast as we do!
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That's about it for me. But first a point or two.
Why I came here, what I hoped to provide and why I'm done:
I will be the first one to acknowledge that TW have this thing down way better than I do! I am running Nero Beta 3 as I am typing this! It would have taken me forever to come up with a 2.2 mounting fix, FOREVER. Even more, they were kind enough to give me my own repo on their site. They have been great to me and I have learned so much from them.
BUT, I wanted to provide a little variety for people between the Eugene/Master/TW releases. I think I did just that.
Mjollnir: My first try at a rom, nothing more that just a really, really big theme.
sXe: My second try which included backwards compatible framework.
Volholl: My JK2 / JK6 / JL1 Hybrid
Volholl Valkyrie: Pure JL4
Volholl Ragnarok: Only known 2.2.1 port released for Vibrant, with working wifi and gps - even with the signal related soft boot bug, I was the only one brave enough to put it all on the line and release it,
Volholl PepperKake : Pure JL5 with all images, sounds plus, plus ripped from Nexus S dump
How is it so easy to criticize someone who spends countless hours putting something together for you for free? When you have done nothing for the community other than demand more?
As far as I know, everyone respects sombionix, yet even he has had to come on here and defend a stock release because everyone kept complaining that it MAY have included TW init - which it didn't.
So, that is my rant.
I will continue to release Roms, Themes, whatever you decide to call them - they just won't be posted on XDA for a while, or ever..
Sorry to see it came to this man since I think you have provided some really useful stuff. Sad how people feel the need to troll and criticize things needlessly but I will continue to follow you else where.
Woahhh... Wait, what happened.? I got back within the hour from being with family on Christmas.. More people trolling & flaming people? Didn't we just have a town hall meeting?
Yeah but some people just don't appreciate the hard work of you guys. All they do is come here and complain over little insignificant things because they apparently font get enough attention at home. I don't blame heathen at all for dumping this place. Good thing I can still use his stuff on tw forums.
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I am new to this forum and I was lucky enough to grab your Nexus clone for the Vibrant. I absolutely love this rom. That is all.
Honestly, the Vibrant section of this site is going to hell with all these pr*cks pissing off those that actually do something for others. These are the worst of the worst, because not only do they not do anything, but they keep others from doing work as well. Do we really have to be such a$$es while offering criticism?
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Honestly, the Vibrant section of this site is going to hell with all these pr*cks pissing off those that actually do something for others. These are the worst of the worst, because not only do they not do anything, but they keep others from doing work as well. Do we really have to be such a$$es while offering criticism?
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I have a pretty short memory. I do get mad but it doesn't last forever. I'm testing the next release of the pulled rom right now with the new audio and gps settings and the crt shutdown sequence.
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I have a pretty short memory. I do get mad but it doesn't last forever. I'm testing the next release of the pulled rom right now with the new audio and gps settings and the crt shutdown sequence.
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Hey thats great jillette. Please do post ur ROMs here on xda..cos we really appreciate ur work
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Hey thats great jillette. Please do post ur ROMs here on xda..cos we really appreciate ur work
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Indeed we do!
most users here do appreciate all developers work. its just the few idiots/trolls with loud voices who spoil it for everyone else
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most users here do appreciate all developers work. its just the few idiots/trolls with loud voices who spoil it for everyone else
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Agreed....I for one respect all the hardworking developers (and other people who take out the time to post something that others benefit from) and really dislikedislike those who try to mess it up for everyone because they have nothing better to do...
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I have a pretty short memory. I do get mad but it doesn't last forever. I'm testing the next release of the pulled rom right now with the new audio and gps settings and the crt shutdown sequence.
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Post them other than here on xda...
Pm them to people, or at TW's site. You or the other devs should be treated this way.
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jellette said:
I have a pretty short memory. I do get mad but it doesn't last forever. I'm testing the next release of the pulled rom right now with the new audio and gps settings and the crt shutdown sequence.
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I know I am really enjoying your latest rom. Out of all the roms available yours is the one I am using.
gotta say, i've never flashed one of your roms, but don't stopping making them available.
some people are douches and don't deserve what the community does for them.
what have they done?
just keep on keepin on. if for no other reason than you are, i'm sure, learning a bunch of cool **** and having fun.
Im not complaining just wondering
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I imagine their al very tall.
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What makes you think there is a small #? I'm very pleased with the development teams we have. They have all done a lot of great work.
After 10 million sold I was wondering that also.
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After 10 million sold I was wondering that also.
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Out of ten million units how many are running stock? I bet you the majority.
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The endless cries for help from noobs and/or people lacking common sense drove them away?
Lack of 2.2 source.
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Out of ten million units how many are running stock? I bet you the majority.
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stop being a jerk.
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I imagine their al very tall.
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What makes you think there is a small #? I'm very pleased with the development teams we have. They have all done a lot of great work.
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Well, i'm currently good for this as well, but look at it, the only devs that people know for vibrants are: Eugene, Master, TW thats pretty much it i think?
TW is probably a bunch of people, master, he seems to be working alone currently, and Eugene is probably working with barak or something.
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Lack of 2.2 source.
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^ this
blame samsung
Yea since 2.1 is over with we just need 2.2 not the leaks
I love development as well im on axura I just noticed
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Lack of 2.2 source.
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i dont understand because theres no 2.2 theres not even devs working for the vibrant?
Explain, and if your trying to make thsi thread into a I HATE SAMSUNG one, please gtfo.
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i dont understand because theres no 2.2 theres not even devs working for the vibrant?
Explain, and if your trying to make thsi thread into a I HATE SAMSUNG one, please gtfo.
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I wanna take that bet and when official froyo comes out there will be more I don't care anymore.
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And btw where is Eugene? He hasnt teleased anything in a while...
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If I'm not mistaken that 10 million number is the whole Galaxy S line. 3 of the phones in that line have had very little, if any, in the way of leaked software thereby putting the need for anything new at a stand still. The majority of the 10 million sold have been I9000 which has seen plenty of development. As for the Vibrant I count 4 active Dev teams that are major players here, Eugene, Team Whiskey, Master, Heathen. Then you have a couple others releasing random items. To my recollection there has been a new rom or update to existing roms every single week. I'm not sure what else you would want maybe a new rom to flash daily? One of those devs has stop posting here but those that like his work have given us all the updated info. All of the Devs with the exception of Heathen have slowed down a bit for various reason known only to them but I'd speculate 3 possible reasons. 1. Holidays man people want to relax a little. 2. Nothing new to work with in a few weeks and the last 3 or 4 leaks have just been tweaks to 2.2. And finally C. with 2.3 on the horizon I'm sure some of the devs are busy finding a way to bring us all a stable/working version.
Hope this clears everything up for you.
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I wanna take that bet and when official froyo comes out there will be more I don't care anymore.
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What "bet"?
Official froyo doesn't make people want to develop this phone.
When official froyo comes out, everyone will want gingerbread, when we get that official well want the next, and so on...
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What "bet"?
Official froyo doesn't make people want to develop this phone.
When official froyo comes out, everyone will want gingerbread, when we get that official well want the next, and so on...
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Not exactly true. I mean I understand the sentiment. But it only goes up to a point. I thoroughly expect either an official 2.3 release sometime this year, or at least a stable 2.3 port from the Nexus considering it's pretty much the same exact phone. But after that, I'm not expecting much considering the handset with be EOL by then.
I was a former G1 owner, and I think it was great that we were able to get an official build of 1.6, and even though CM worked pretty well on it (at least the Eclair versions), you can't really expect that it would run Froyo well.
Bottom line, I think if every handset was updated within the first 1.5 years of it's life, people would be satisfied and there would be a lot less frustration about lack of support with Android in general.
I hear Masri has froyos...leaked froyos! *looks around* *high fives adrynalyne and disappears*
I want to know how fast this is going to be removed
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Why do you live?
Um, wrong forum.
good day.
I'm betting soon, but, its fun to let masri get the attention
I hear it's an epic rom and kernel combination
Thanks!!!!!!!
Its 100% verizon fascinate froyo build, it was leaked like 2 days ago.
Things don't usually take two days to hit forums.
Unless it looks like someone could get fired for the leak.
Fascinate users are HUNGRY to not be on eclair.
I'm new here and as such, a lot of people won't give a sh*t what I have to say, but I'm not PMing ANYBODY. This leak will make it to us sooner or later. Personally, I'm waiting for punkkaos (whom I've donated to) or jt to release either a non-traceable version, or a deodexed, rooted version, which I'm sure they will do when they are good and ready.
I'm guessing that will be by Monday, but either way I'm not going to bug someone or (potentially) cost someone at Samsung or VZW their job. We will have it when we have it. It's not like they're holding it back to be pricks.
So is this legit or what? Im bored lol
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I'm new here and as such, a lot of people won't give a sh*t what I have to say, but I'm not PMing ANYBODY. This leak will make it to us sooner or later. Personally, I'm waiting for punkkaos (whom I've donated to) or jt to release either a non-traceable version, or a deodexed, rooted version, which I'm sure they will do when they are good and ready.
I'm guessing that will be by Monday, but either way I'm not going to bug someone or (potentially) cost someone at Samsung or VZW their job. We will have it when we have it. It's not like they're holding it back to be pricks.
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Cyanogenmod (like kaosfroyo) is better software. Hopefully this new group build will help that rom move forward more anyway.
I'm tired of samsung's junk software. The developers around here will make good work of the froyo leak, if it's out.
This thread isn't really about development though...
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Kaos stopped work on the eris to get ya'll froyo. Be happy it'll rock. Me I'm refitting for gingerbread.
This thread is useless btw.
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I'm new here and as such, a lot of people won't give a sh*t what I have to say, but I'm not PMing ANYBODY. This leak will make it to us sooner or later. Personally, I'm waiting for punkkaos (whom I've donated to) or jt to release either a non-traceable version, or a deodexed, rooted version, which I'm sure they will do when they are good and ready.
I'm guessing that will be by Monday, but either way I'm not going to bug someone or (potentially) cost someone at Samsung or VZW their job. We will have it when we have it. It's not like they're holding it back to be pricks.
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Swyped from my froyo eris running on Kaos.
Mercys Fallen said:
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Yeah, that's my point. I think it got lost in there somewhere, but my point is that this thread is neither about development NOR is it useful. Unless the OP knows Masri, I think it's kind of a d*ck move to tell the forum to PM him. No offense, OP, that's just how I see it.
I know masri, he is a good man. If he says he truly has a leak and is serious then he does. He may just be protecting his job. But I've been hone since the irc server went to Droid life so what the **** do I know?
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Cyanogenmod (like kaosfroyo) is better software. Hopefully this new group build will help that rom move forward more anyway.
I'm tired of samsung's junk software. The developers around here will make good work of the froyo leak, if it's out.
This thread isn't really about development though...
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I am personally very happy that Kaos is working on anything for the fascinate, but i have grown to really like touchwiz, it is the best skin I've used, much better than sense. I've tried the vanilla froyo and cyan, but I'm holding out for touchwiz 2.2.
Also, mods need to shut this topic down.
This was all started because of the IRC channel, so if you guys don't find it pleasing, oh well...it was fun with masri...don't care if you guys are hurt about it
Shutted, keep leaks on IRC off XDA until all clear
I read on masters twitter that he was selling his phone. He did say he would continue the axura project. I just want to know if hes still working miui.
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I'm sure he will be an asset to whatever dev community he decides to contribute next. He'll also get to do a fresh start without all the drama. Good luck Master, Axura was the first ROM I installed on my Vibrant.
BYE master, dude I loved your roms, I fell in love with Axura back in 2.1 days, you'll be missed, nut not forgotten, I'm sure I'll see you around.. SGS2 ;]
sweet! he better get a Optimus 2X.
maybe donations?
The MIUI has several devs on it.. JF being one of them, there will be updates for that (And I will still try to help with it as much as possible)
@Scrizz, You know what phone I am getting already LOL
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I read on masters twitter that he was selling his phone. He did say he would continue the axura project. I just want to know if hes still working miui.
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Yep.. his phone is up on the marketplace....Hopefully more devs do not defect from the vibrant.
Master™ said:
The MIUI has several devs on it.. JF being one of them, there will be updates for that (And I will still try to help with it as much as possible)
@Scrizz, You know what phone I am getting already LOL
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Let me guess.... the nexus s.. If only they made a version that supported 850 and 1900 wcdma....
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@Scrizz, You know what phone I am getting already LOL
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You still can't stop me from trying!
Can't wait for AxuraO2
Master™ said:
The MIUI has several devs on it.. JF being one of them, there will be updates for that (And I will still try to help with it as much as possible)
@Scrizz, You know what phone I am getting already LOL
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I know its probably not but was that "JF" for jesusfreke(sp?)
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jamesd86 said:
I know its probably not but was that "JF" for jesusfreke(sp?)
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JumaaneFace...
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JumaaneFace...
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I never tried your roms dude, but always read about your great work and you helped the vibrant a lot. It sucks your leaving, it was always nice to see the options.
Whatever you do.peace be with ya man.
Master,
thanks for all you work here. Axura is a great rom, not to mention your other contributions.
Sucks I finally try Axura and love it and you are leaving. Good work and good luck.
Truly sad to know you are leaving.... Axura has been the best ROM for my phone ever. I have tried almost all of them until Axura and never switched from it again.
umm master how's battery life on your yet to be gotten phone.
Going for the S2 Are we ?????.......hmmmmmmmmm ???
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Sucks I finally try Axura and love it and you are leaving. Good work and good luck.
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Damn, I was thinking the same thing. I love Axura so much... sad to see you go.
Good luck with everything you do.
Dear master,
I love your roms, and now your leaving me....
So consider this as my suicide note.
I am currently hanging from a fan with a rope on my neck. All I have left to do is push yhe chair away.
I will wait for your response, and if its the wrong response... You know the rest.
But seriously don't leave.
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Dear master,
I love your roms, and now your leaving me....
So consider this as my suicide note.
I am currently hanging from a fan with a rope on my neck. All I have left to do is push yhe chair away.
I will wait for your response, and if its the wrong response... You know the rest.
But seriously don't leave.
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don't worry the trolls in the truck will hold up the chair.
That's too bad Bye Master.
Hopefully whoever picks up the MIUI project can give us an update soon.
I'm a n00b, but wanted to give Master some love. Axura has been my daily driver since I got the Vibrant and has done nothing but meet or exceed expectations. Good luck.
BTW, with CM7 working its way to the Vibrant he may have picked a good time to bail.
Ever since FCM came out, seems like everyone and their mothers making ROMS...
Have you noticed that the quality of ROMS gone down since the FCM release?
Do you find it annoying to seee 4 different CM9 KANG's without the ability to know which one would be best to use ?
Not saying I dont appreciate the FREE ROMS... but, I mean, seems like people are just quickly slappying together a few quick mods on someone elses ROM, renaming it.. then calling it their own.
I dont know, to me, thats not development...
/Rant
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Ever since FCM came out, seems like everyone and their mothers making ROMS...
Have you noticed that the quality of ROMS gone down since the FCM release?
Do you find it annoying to seee 4 different CM9 KANG's without the ability to know which one would be best to use ?
Not saying I dont appreciate the FREE ROMS... but, I mean, seems like people are just quickly slappying together a few quick mods on someone elses ROM, renaming it.. then calling it their own.
I dont know, to me, thats not development...
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Wow... just wow.
Joker's been nice enough to help port his work on the PHOTON to us Atrix users, so we have something more capable to play with until another version of CM9 comes out and you're complaining?
If you're going to bash other people's work for no reason, the least you could do is keep up as to why things are happening they way they are...
Solution: DONT FLASH IT!
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Wow... just wow.
Joker's been nice enough to help port his work on the PHOTON to us Atrix users, so we have something more capable to play with until another version of CM9 comes out and you're complaining?
If you're going to bash other people's work for no reason, the least you could do is keep up as to why things are happening they way they are...
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I think its even worst... Isnt he implying that we shloud blame sammcrip for releasing FCM and starting this influx of ROMS? It just amazes me how ungratefull and lazzy people can be.
Thanks all the devs for all this ROMs! I can use the search feature and filter all the junk from the good stuff. UHAaaaa! Im a smart n00b.
Peace.
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littleemp said:
Wow... just wow.
Joker's been nice enough to help port his work on the PHOTON to us Atrix users, so we have something more capable to play with until another version of CM9 comes out and you're complaining?
If you're going to bash other people's work for no reason, the least you could do is keep up as to why things are happening they way they are...
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I don't think he is bashing anyone. He is just pointing out that once anyone with little skill or talent can put other people's "tweaks" together and produce a rom in a few clicks you forgo quality for quantity
I don't use fcm so your point is invalid, although I do thank sam for making it.
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Ever since FCM came out, seems like everyone and their mothers making ROMS...
Have you noticed that the quality of ROMS gone down since the FCM release?
Do you find it annoying to seee 4 different CM9 KANG's without the ability to know which one would be best to use ?
Not saying I dont appreciate the FREE ROMS... but, I mean, seems like people are just quickly slappying together a few quick mods on someone elses ROM, renaming it.. then calling it their own.
I dont know, to me, thats not development...
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I don't use fcm so your point is invalid, although I do thank sam for making it.
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I doubt his generalization was directed towards you personally...
Reread the op
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I doubt his generalization was directed towards you personally...
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Reread the op
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I have, show me were he calls you out specifically? Unless you classify your self as everyone and there mothers...
ssmr2t said:
Ever since FCM came out, seems like everyone and their mothers making ROMS...
Have you noticed that the quality of ROMS gone down since the FCM release?
Do you find it annoying to seee 4 different CM9 KANG's without the ability to know which one would be best to use ?
Not saying I dont appreciate the FREE ROMS... but, I mean, seems like people are just quickly slappying together a few quick mods on someone elses ROM, renaming it.. then calling it their own.
I dont know, to me, thats not development...
/Rant
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The new roms are from cm9 kangs, which fcm has nothing to do with, and rdanner's ports. Which also have nothing to do with fcm. We also have Nottach making a new rom based on 2.3.6, and marko doing the same thing. Once again, neither have any affiliation with fcm... So what's the problem with development kicking off?
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Well I thought a development boom was a good thing. If you read descriptions they might say alpha build and if you think some of the newer roms aren't as high quality stick with what you know. I personally like choices and trying new things. Waiting patiently for miui to improve haven't touched cm9 probably wont until camera works. Just consider things and read what works before you flash things.
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endlessevo said:
I have, show me were he calls you out specifically? Unless you classify your self as everyone and there mothers...
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In case you don't know, joker is one of the devs compiled/posted a CM9 kang. The OP targeted the CM9 kangs among other ROMs. Look at the dev section.
Look, I apologize if my post came off as I was bashing.. I was not bashing.
Endlessevo get's where I am coming from... FCM is a great thing, I love it!
Basically, He hit the nail on the head.. It's quantity ~ Quality thing...
EXAMPLE: I see some ROMS which warrant framework changes for animation purposes, etc... The same thing can be achieved by using Rom Toolbox pro..... Change the fonts.. add a wallpaper pack, launcher, put another kernel... FCM it, give it some random name, and now you have a new ROM.
I totally agree with Dev's like nootiach (spelling?) who put little hidden boobie traps in their work so people can warrant the credit where it is due.
I guess what I am trying to get at is, I miss groundbreaking work~!!! Like, when CM was ported, or Miui.. This is some groundbreaking stuff.. Now you go to the dev. section, and you have a handful of CM9 kangs
Sorry if Im ranting... but I want to talk to someone about it... Jesus christ, if I talk to my wife about it, she'd be pissed I spend this much thought on this
/rant
ssmr2t said:
Look, I apologize if my post came off as I was bashing.. I was not bashing.
Endlessevo get's where I am coming from... FCM is a great thing, I love it!
Basically, He hit the nail on the head.. It's quantity ~ Quality thing...
EXAMPLE: I see some ROMS which warrant framework changes for animation purposes, etc... The same thing can be achieved by using Rom Toolbox pro..... Change the fonts.. add a wallpaper pack, launcher, put another kernel... FCM it, give it some random name, and now you have a new ROM.
I totally agree with Dev's like nootiach (spelling?) who put little hidden boobie traps in their work so people can warrant the credit where it is due.
I guess what I am trying to get at is, I miss groundbreaking work~!!! Like, when CM was ported, or Miui.. This is some groundbreaking stuff.. Now you go to the dev. section, and you have a handful of CM9 kangs
Sorry if Im ranting... but I want to talk to someone about it... Jesus christ, if I talk to my wife about it, she'd be pissed I spend this much thought on this
/rant
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Because there isn't a whole lot more to do to our phones except optimizing what we have already, and porting over android 4.0. Our dev team isn't done, but the groundbreaking work that you want is.
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BTW, I am really stoked for CM9 and the future beyond.. The work that goes into all this is difficult. Maybe deep down inside, It is me just getting bored with the hobby?
Sorry about the post, and I respect all the guys who do, do this.
I don't think you quite understand what kang means.
All unofficial cm roms are kangs, even ones that are in development to become official cm. Like mine. To become official everything major must work without breaking other phones. So if you want official cm9 someone must fix the problems. The little groundbreaking work you are wanting is the kangs. Yes the atrix team laid ground work to get cm9 ported but they stopped working on it. I was given cm9 only a few weeks ago when the photon cm dev moved to a different phone. He didn't even have cm9 up. Only cm7. I'm not making a temporary kang to satisfy ics thirst. I'm making the fixes to go official.
Also if you read up only one cm9 is current and going forward. Guess who's
Btw I don't even have an atrix, I'm blind building
ssmr2t said:
Look, I apologize if my post came off as I was bashing.. I was not bashing.
Endlessevo get's where I am coming from... FCM is a great thing, I love it!
Basically, He hit the nail on the head.. It's quantity ~ Quality thing...
EXAMPLE: I see some ROMS which warrant framework changes for animation purposes, etc... The same thing can be achieved by using Rom Toolbox pro..... Change the fonts.. add a wallpaper pack, launcher, put another kernel... FCM it, give it some random name, and now you have a new ROM.
I totally agree with Dev's like nootiach (spelling?) who put little hidden boobie traps in their work so people can warrant the credit where it is due.
I guess what I am trying to get at is, I miss groundbreaking work~!!! Like, when CM was ported, or Miui.. This is some groundbreaking stuff.. Now you go to the dev. section, and you have a handful of CM9 kangs
Sorry if Im ranting... but I want to talk to someone about it... Jesus christ, if I talk to my wife about it, she'd be pissed I spend this much thought on this
/rant
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Yep, your probably correct
Again, not bashing anyone.
AND... Thats freaking nuts to be blind building. My mind cant work that way
Ah, good old fashioned elitism.
"We dare not allow yon peons to learn reading nor writing, lest they gain initiative!"
Quantity and quality are not mutually exclusive. that's the Apple Mentality, and its a trap.
I find in the [SIMILAR] Linux communities lots of fresh blood means a greater chance for future prodigys and dedicated devs. Give folks a chance, and practice discretion when flashing.
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sspa said:
In case you don't know, joker is one of the devs compiled/posted a CM9 kang. The OP targeted the CM9 kangs among other ROMs. Look at the dev section.
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I did check to see if that's what he was being so butt hurt about. I figured because it was a second thought to his original rant and the fact joker defended the wrong part of the rant he knew why he was defending himself.
His complaints about the KANG's was not being able to tell the difference between them, not that they were simple tweaks turned into roms.
Long day. Plus complaining about free work equals thread
xhazk said:
Ah, good old fashioned elitism.
"We dare not allow yon peons to learn reading nor writing, lest they gain initiative!"
Quantity and quality are not mutually exclusive. that's the Apple Mentality, and its a trap.
I find in the [SIMILAR] Linux communities lots of fresh blood means a greater chance for future prodigys and dedicated devs. Give folks a chance, and practice discretion when flashing.
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