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Samsung KNOX feature for S4?

I just saw this security app called KNOX on Samsung's site here below and I was wondering if its there or added by default.
I have the GTi9505 S4 version model.
http://www.samsung.com/global/busin...ne/GT-I9505ZNAAMN-features#skipNaviGalaxy4_01
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/mobile/solution/security/samsung-knox
And on the S4 wood-looking box it has the SAFE symbol on it.
Is this ONLY stricly for Government and Enterprise or is available for personal use as well?
On the video below, it does show the KNOX app icon. And I cannot locate it on my phone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_jTit_RCdI
Thanks!

The App is in system settings but i can't manage to run it, but I am able to install it. The interesting thing is that even after install the app isn't showing in App drawer...

Can you please post a print screen? Please?
I would like to see it. Or try it.
I would very much appreciate it.
Went to APP directory and I cannot find this KNOX security APP. Pls help me.
mymagicmyhero said:
The App is in system settings but i can't manage to run it, but I am able to install it. The interesting thing is that even after install the app isn't showing in App drawer...
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itsonlyme999 said:
Can you please post a print screen? Please?
I would like to see it. Or try it.
I would very much appreciate it.
Went to APP directory and I cannot find this KNOX security APP. Pls help me.
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here are some screens. knox is preinstalled, but it's region and operator enabled.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3vwfv8dxi2hni0o/2013-06-09 16.29.14.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9nfju4hz85yvmm2/2013-06-09 16.29.42.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q8uyvg9rhfjfyic/2013-06-09 16.30.43.png

Ahhhhh I got it!!!!!
Found it.
So in order for KNOX to work to set some security standards like setting max. password age and etc....which one of the APK files should I run to install it? Theres 3 APK files on there.
I would also guess, that ones needs a Centralized Mobile Management KNOX Security server in order to run this properly.
Thanks for taking your time with the printscreens.
mymagicmyhero said:
here are some screens. knox is preinstalled, but it's region and operator enabled.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3vwfv8dxi2hni0o/2013-06-09 16.29.14.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9nfju4hz85yvmm2/2013-06-09 16.29.42.png
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q8uyvg9rhfjfyic/2013-06-09 16.30.43.png
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After clicking on all of those APK KNOX files, I was aksed DO YOU WANT TO INSTALL and I got an error showing that APPLICATION NOT INSTALLED.
I would really wish to have this application running to keep my personal and business data separate from each other.
How can I install KNOX on my phone like the one showing on this videos?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzRy2kPSm1Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_jTit_RCdI

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I see knox
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"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
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But cannot start the app, anyway to get this app started?
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Has anyone been able to figure this out?
I would really like to stop carrying two devices, but my company's IT won't do anything to help me with the "separation of church and state." I am wondering if this option works for an individual.
Thanks!

I know I am bumping, but I saw there 3 bumps and no answer...
I am also trying to understand this, from what I know is:
Lnox is coming also on the Motherboard, no? I mean it has a software side.... so maybe that's why you cannot install just an aps etc
I am not sure, hopefully someone can make this clear.
Thanks

Sorry, I'm having the same issue.

If you have insurance and want to replace your phone and knox Counter has been tripped. Why not just tell them u lost the phone? They'd send u a replacement then you'd have 2!!!
Sent from my SM-N900T using xda app-developers app

karma4eb said:
If you have insurance and want to replace your phone and knox Counter has been tripped. Why not just tell them u lost the phone? They'd send u a replacement then you'd have 2!!!
Sent from my SM-N900T using xda app-developers app
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It is comments like this why Samsung has started locking down the phones.
Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk

i9505
Hi,
I have a new s4 with KitKat, Knox is showing in app menu and when I click on it it asks if I want to install. On the downloading section when flashing however it is listed. I'm worried if I root, will it root or screw the phone? Will it move the Knox counter voiding warranty?

fatfei said:
Hi,
I have a new s4 with KitKat, Knox is showing in app menu and when I click on it it asks if I want to install. On the downloading section when flashing however it is listed. I'm worried if I root, will it root or screw the phone? Will it move the Knox counter voiding warranty?
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You should read a little - it is written many times about Knox,root etc

AEkiz said:
You should read a little - it is written many times about Knox,root etc
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I've many times about Knox but it is still unclear. It seems no have but haven't got it

Root N9000 without knox???

This is not a question
This is a Discussion
5 days ago i got gn3 and i didn't wanna root it then
but now i want 2 root
and i read all the talk about root it with knox will kill the phone
so i didnt open the app (knox) yet
and i can delete it
as u can see
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so if i delete knox
it want kill my phone when i root it
RIGHT ?????????????????

Wrong
and this IS a question

first of all this IS a question The interesting thing is my N9000Q (identical to N900 according to samsung) does not have anything about knox in Download mode just Binary status and Firmware status. The became Custom after rooting but when I flash an official rom, they both became official.

b00mb00mchuck said:
Wrong
and this IS a question
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muhtesem insan said:
first of all this IS a question The interesting thing is my N9000Q (identical to N900 according to samsung) does not have anything about knox in Download mode just Binary status and Firmware status. The became Custom after rooting but when I flash an official rom, they both became official.
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tnx 4 answering
so i cnt root
damn it

Does root De La Vega work on your device? Let's you root without tripping the Knox counter

aheadyar said:
This is not a question
This is a Discussion
5 days ago i got gn3 and i didn't wanna root it then
but now i want 2 root
and i read all the talk about root it with knox will kill the phone
so i didnt open the app (knox) yet
and i can delete it
as u can see
so if i delete knox
it want kill my phone when i root it
RIGHT ?????????????????
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No it will not kill your phone.
That part of knox is an app for security like any other app.
The knox warranty is only visible in download mode.
Some are reporting that there is no Knox flag on the 900 version. Basically the exynos version.
Also if it's a system app from Samsung you cannot delete unless you have root. You can only hide it and uninstall the updates to those apps!
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

but, does the n900 have the boot flag witch sees if a device has been rooted?
muhtesem insan said:
first of all this IS a question The interesting thing is my N9000Q (identical to N900 according to samsung) does not have anything about knox in Download mode just Binary status and Firmware status. The became Custom after rooting but when I flash an official rom, they both became official.
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could you install the root and modded rom, and, after a reupload of original firmware, flags comes back to normal state???

iba21 said:
could you install the root and modded rom, and, after a reupload of original firmware, flags comes back to normal state???
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Exactly. and there's no KNOX flag. I could get OTA updates too without problem.

muhtesem insan said:
Exactly. and there's no KNOX flag. I could get OTA updates too without problem.
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You don't have the 0x0 flag??

iba21 said:
You don't have the 0x0 flag??
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Just this...

muhtesem insan said:
Just this...
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Monday i'll receve the n900.. i'll see if it has the flag.. thankyou!

muhtesem insan said:
Just this...
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Did you try ti root and come back by flashing original firmware?

This means it is safe to flash n root on exynos?
Sent from my SM-N900 using xda app-developers app

jetbruceli said:
No it will not kill your phone.
That part of knox is an app for security like any other app.
The knox warranty is only visible in download mode.
Some are reporting that there is no Knox flag on the 900 version. Basically the exynos version.
Also if it's a system app from Samsung you cannot delete unless you have root. You can only hide it and uninstall the updates to those apps!
Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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so i can root with cf root and keep using knox ???????????
i dont have knox flag in download mode

muhtesem insan said:
Exactly. and there's no KNOX flag. I could get OTA updates too without problem.
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is that mean i can root with cf root
like i used 2 do with s3 with no problem ??????????

iba21 said:
Monday i'll receve the n900.. i'll see if it has the flag.. thankyou!
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there's no flag on n900

thank you all for answering
one last thing i wanna understand clearly
can i root cf root n have no problem like i used 2 do with s2 s3
ps the phone is very expensive in iraq i got it in 899 $
so did any one root safety on n900

thank you all for answering
one last thing i wanna understand clearly
can i root cf root n have no problem like i used 2 do with s2 s3
ps the phone is very expensive in iraq i got it in 899 $
so did any one root safety on n900

aheadyar said:
thank you all for answering
one last thing i wanna understand clearly
can i root cf root n have no problem like i used 2 do with s2 s3
ps the phone is very expensive in iraq i got it in 899 $
so did any one root safety on n900
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You can root without harming the phone easily but you could void warranty. I am not sure that not having a visible knox counter in N900 means there isn't a hidden one.

muhtesem insan said:
You can root without harming the phone easily but you could void warranty. I am not sure that not having a visible knox counter in N900 means there isn't a hidden one.
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tnx 4 ur answer
i dont care bwt warranty if root want harm my device
muhtesem insan said:
I am not sure that not having a visible knox counter in N900 means there isn't a hidden one.
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with time xda devs will find that out

[WARNING] Be aware! The new XXUEMK4 Comes with Knox Void Warranty!!

Attention friends!
My friend @paulove have just flashed the new XXUEMK4 from here:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/11/17...-3-test-firmware-for-galaxy-note-ii-gt-n7100/
His bootloader was updated to MK4 but with a little "gift" from samsung:
Knox Void Warranty 0
When he tried to flash recovery and it changed to Knox Void Warranty 1
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Please everyone, read this to understand everything you need about Knox Void Warranty 1/0:
http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/
DO NOT FLASH THE NEW BOOTLOADER - Unless you know what you are doing!
MJ5 Bootloader is safe to downgrade and the wifi works on this bootloader.
XXUEMK4 Bootloader is not safe!!
My friend says that he can not downgrade, because after he tried he got "Kies Emergency Mode" and his odin failed.
After he installed MK4 back everything worked again.
DO NOT TRY TO DOWNGRADE IF YOU HAVE THE NEW BOOTLOADER!
Tamir.
​

knew it samsung will take his time to integrate new knox s*** not new features.. lol

Why Samsung? Why??? I love my Note2 rooted.

And its the final version. So welcome to the club with note 3 n s4. We r brothers.
Sent from Note 3 (The beauty & beast)

LOL my warranty already finished so i don't care
but thank u

sohebq said:
And its the final version. So welcome to the club with note 3 n s4. We r brothers.
Sent from Note 3 (The beauty & beast)
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Mine too
But it wont harm phone right?
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium

Yeah I have seen that too so tried with wifi patched and worked fine.. So still wifi patch will wifi patch should work but I will try to look to this bootloader when time permits. But still I doubt this new bootloader may have blacklisted old bootloader and it may make irreversible changes. Also if downgrade remain successful, further upgrade may cause issue.
Sent from my SM-N900 using xda premium

Upppsss! Late for me But Many thanks OP

yahyoh said:
LOL my warranty already finished so i don't care
but thank u
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Your 24 month warranty has already run out? Lol id double check your papers

tonylee000 said:
Your 24 month warranty has already run out? Lol id double check your papers
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its just 12 month here :|

justkiddinghere said:
Mine too
But it wont harm phone right?
Sent from my GT-N7100 using xda premium
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Right
Sent from Note 3 (The beauty & beast)

to fix odin fail, we have to back to 4.1.2.

first, good thing that there is 2 stable leaks without this flag.I guess we should all stick to MJ5 for a while.
But now i'm thinking what should my nest device be? I loved Samsung devices, because they are so easy to root,flash roms and still you can save the warranty.Now my blacklist contains, HTC, Sony, Motorola and Samsung.Do Asus and LG lock their bootloader too?
And there is some bad news from Google itself. seems they came up with methods to help OEM for preventing unlocking bootloader in 4.4 KitKat.
tonylee000 said:
Your 24 month warranty has already run out? Lol id double check your papers
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you have a 24 month warranty? damn.

sam5154 said:
first, good thing that there is 2 stable leaks without this flag.I guess we should all stick to MJ5 for a while.
But now i'm thinking what should my nest device be? I loved Samsung devices, because they are so easy to root,flash roms and still you can save the warranty.Now my blacklist contains, HTC, Sony, Motorola and Samsung.Do Asus and LG lock their bootloader too?
And there is some bad news from Google itself. seems they came up with methods to help OEM for preventing unlocking bootloader in 4.4 KitKat.
you have a 24 month warranty? damn.
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Yea, also in Czech Republic we have a 24 month warranty.
Odesláno z mého GT-N7100 pomocí Tapatalk

I see some Nexus 5 on my hands on a near and imminent future.... ( thanks to ShameSung )

zohawkish said:
to fix odin fail, we have to back to 4.1.2.
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Could you explain? Could I downgrade BL if I flash a 4.1.2 rom rom PhilZ and then stock from Odin?

sam5154 said:
you have a 24 month warranty? damn.
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You dont? I had always just assumed a 12 month warranty until I read something that made me check the leaflet. Check yours.

dr.ketan said:
Yeah I have seen that too so tried with wifi patched and worked fine.. So still wifi patch will wifi patch should work but I will try to look to this bootloader when time permits. But still I doubt this new bootloader may have blacklisted old bootloader and it may make irreversible changes. Also if downgrade remain successful, further upgrade may cause issue.
Sent from my SM-N900 using xda premium
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Is there a way I can downgrade this bootloader?

the way they took time to slowly yet steadily introduce the Note 2 forums to the full force of the Knox poison you would believe how much control they already have over these forums.
it can only be LOVE, true love ;p

May their conscience trouble them over this; if they have one, that is.
My note ii is owned by me, bought it and not on contract. Flag is now 1. Still runs fine, and I don't need knox stuff on the phone.

Box and stickers say 900I but Google Play & Samsung Phone Info says 900F!

Hi guys,
Strange one here.... The box and stickers on the back of my new Galaxy S5 say it's an SM-G900I but Samsung Phone Info says it's an SM-G900F... Also, the Google Play store says it's a 900F as well... I'd much prefer to have a 900I because it includes support for the LTE 700MHz band which is being rolled out in Australia. The other reason I'm posting is because I had some issues flashing a stock ROM on my phone. The flash process failed at the hidden partition with a size full error. So.... I'm a little sceptical....
Any ideas on how I'd confirm 100% that my phone is indeed either a 900F or a 900I?
Screenshot of Samsung Phone Info:
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Photo of the back of the phone:
Any ideas guys?

gyrex said:
Hi guys,
Strange one here.... The box and stickers on the back of my new Galaxy S5 say it's an SM-G900I but Samsung Phone Info says it's an SM-G900F... Also, the Google Play store says it's a 900F as well... I'd much prefer to have a 900I because it includes support for the LTE 700MHz band which is being rolled out in Australia. The other reason I'm posting is because I had some issues flashing a stock ROM on my phone. The flash process failed at the hidden partition with a size full error. So.... I'm a little sceptical....
Any ideas on how I'd confirm 100% that my phone is indeed either a 900F or a 900I?
Screenshot of Samsung Phone Info:
Photo of the back of the phone:
Any ideas guys?
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hehe, i think it might a fake my sticker looks completely different.

Fake!

gyrex said:
Hi guys,
Strange one here.... The box and stickers on the back of my new Galaxy S5 say it's an SM-G900I but Samsung Phone Info says it's an SM-G900F... Also, the Google Play store says it's a 900F as well... I'd much prefer to have a 900I because it includes support for the LTE 700MHz band which is being rolled out in Australia. The other reason I'm posting is because I had some issues flashing a stock ROM on my phone. The flash process failed at the hidden partition with a size full error. So.... I'm a little sceptical....
Any ideas on how I'd confirm 100% that my phone is indeed either a 900F or a 900I?
Screenshot of Samsung Phone Info:
Photo of the back of the phone:
Any ideas guys?
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I really even doubt this is G900F either. I see the Knox have also been tripped. Did you rooted the phone by yourself? I presume not. But if you didn't. I even feel this is neither genuine one and seem a refurbished one. Do try to check "Refurbishment Check". There may be high chances that it will be a refurbished.

xda rocks said:
I really even doubt this is G900F either. I see the Knox have also been tripped. Did you rooted the phone by yourself? I presume not. But if you didn't. I even feel this is neither genuine one and seem a refurbished one. Do try to check "Refurbishment Check". There may be high chances that it will be a refurbished.
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I rooted the phone - running XtreStoLite... How do I check to see if it's been refurbished?

gyrex said:
I rooted the phone - running XtreStoLite... How do I check to see if it's been refurbished?
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Read this: http://www.naldotech.com/how-to-check-if-your-galaxy-s5-is-used-or-refurbished/

lingowistico said:
Read this: http://www.naldotech.com/how-to-check-if-your-galaxy-s5-is-used-or-refurbished/
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Thanks for the tip! Just checked and it reckons it's ORIGINAL but it's not making sense because it's saying that I've plugged headphones in 3 times and I've never put headphones near this phone... Only got the phone yesterday!!!
Something's fishy... It's not a fake but I definitely don't think it's brand spanking new and is probably refurbished... Does replacing the motherboard reset the refurbished flag?

gyrex said:
Thanks for the tip! Just checked and it reckons it's ORIGINAL but it's not making sense because it's saying that I've plugged headphones in 3 times and I've never put headphones near this phone... Only got the phone yesterday!!!
Something's fishy... It's not a fake but I definitely don't think it's brand spanking new and is probably refurbished... Does replacing the motherboard reset the refurbished flag?
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Since it says that it's an F in the phone but I on the sticker, if it actually is original, then they have either replaced the motherboard or the sticker.
I don't know how that app works, why don't you head over here and ask the app developer. :good:

lingowistico said:
Since it says that it's an F in the phone but I on the sticker, if it actually is original, then they have either replaced the motherboard or the sticker.
I don't know how that app works, why don't you head over here and ask the app developer. :good:
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Just posted some questions in that forum - thanks mate.
Completely separate issue and waaaay off topic... Does anyone know how to use the "Multi-quote" feature below? Is there some way of quoting by using quick reply rather than a full reply?

gyrex said:
Just posted some questions in that forum - thanks mate.
Completely separate issue and waaaay off topic... Does anyone know how to use the "Multi-quote" feature below? Is there some way of quoting by using quick reply rather than a full reply?
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Please send me (or PM me) these pictures for further check:
1- ALL screenshots from my app 'Phone INFO ★Samsung★' (I need all screenshots to check).
2- The back sticker with higher resolution.
3- The picture when the phone in ODIN MODE (DOWNLOAD MODE).
Thanks.

vndnguyen said:
Please send me (or PM me) these pictures for further check:
1- ALL screenshots from my app 'Phone INFO ★Samsung★' (I need all screenshots to check).
2- The back sticker with higher resolution.
3- The picture when the phone in ODIN MODE (DOWNLOAD MODE).
Thanks.
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I've sent you 1 PM but xda won't let me send you anymore - no error message, I just can't see the messages I'm sending in my sent items. Can you please PM me your email address and I'll flick them over that way?

gyrex said:
the LTE 700MHz band which is being rolled out in Australia
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You can activate any LTE band you want on the qualcomm S5 .

gyrex said:
I've sent you 1 PM but xda won't let me send you anymore - no error message, I just can't see the messages I'm sending in my sent items. Can you please PM me your email address and I'll flick them over that way?
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I have received all your messages.
According to the screenshots, your device is G900I. But it has been flashed with the custom rom porting from G900F.

vndnguyen said:
I have received all your messages.
According to the screenshots, your device is G900I. But it has been flashed with the custom rom porting from G900F.
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Maybe that's why Odin error's because he was flashing the wrong rom?

vndnguyen said:
I have received all your messages.
According to the screenshots, your device is G900I. But it has been flashed with the custom rom porting from G900F.
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So it's definitely 100% a 900I?
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

gyrex said:
So it's definitely 100% a 900I?
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
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Which is the 'wrong ROM'? I tried flashing the xda 900i...
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gyrex said:
So it's definitely 100% a 900I?
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
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Yes, 99.99%

Can I revert knox after root?

Hello,
I know that if I root my s8 I will lost knox services, but if I reset my phone to factory can knox be restored too?

never, knox is a literal fuse in your phone, and when it blows, its gone, no way of getting back, EVER

Knox triggers an e-fuse which permanently burns a block in memory which is irreversible

Kennyguh said:
Hello,
I know that if I root my s8 I will lost knox services, but if I reset my phone to factory can knox be restored too?
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Which phone do you have?
It matters because rooting your phone does not trigger the knox counter at all. Tools like cf auto root flash modified boot images to install root, and it is only that action alone that causes knox to increment.
The north american g95(0|5)(u|w) phones have locked bootloaders making knox increments impossible and they have had root since August of last year.

partcyborg said:
Which phone do you have?
It matters because rooting your phone does not trigger the knox counter at all. Tools like cf auto root flash modified boot images to install root, and it is only that action alone that causes knox to increment.
The north american g95(0|5)(u|w) phones have locked bootloaders making knox increments impossible and they have had root since August of last year.
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Don't tell nonsense: ROOTING and/or CUSTOM ROM ALWAYS triggers KNOX!

henklbr said:
Don't tell nonsense: ROOTING and/or CUSTOM ROM ALWAYS triggers KNOX!
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there are some methods which enable root in a light version! it's just without twrp or custom roms... but still stock rom with root. Sometimes that enough fo some people that only need a certain aspect of being rooted.
but to answer ops question. NO there is not going back unless you have a time machine which u can use and tell ur past self not to root.

henklbr said:
Don't tell nonsense: ROOTING and/or CUSTOM ROM ALWAYS triggers KNOX!
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False. Modifying boot.img trjggers knox counter. If you root without changing kernel or root filesystem, knox is not triggered. Every single snapdragon based samsung s8 and s7 and note8 and many more, every rooted Samsung with a locked bootloader that is rooted has 0x0 knox counter.
See for yourself.
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Please do not spread misinformation. It is difficult enough convincing people who are used to exynos devices that rooting is safe on knox counter with locked bootloader device.

Kennyguh said:
Hello,
I know that if I root my s8 I will lost knox services, but if I reset my phone to factory can knox be restored too?
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Use the PartCyborg way for the S8 will not trip knox
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Kennyguh said:
Hello,
I know that if I root my s8 I will lost knox services, but if I reset my phone to factory can knox be restored too?
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I have tripped Knox to but now I have flashed renovate rom 7.5 and it is set to 0x0 when booted. Nowhere to find that Knox tripped now.

pclord99 said:
I have tripped Knox to but now I have flashed renovate rom 7.5 and it is set to 0x0 when booted. Nowhere to find that Knox tripped now.
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Put phone in download mode and you will see Knox status
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TheGhost1951 said:
Put phone in download mode and you will see Knox status
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When I put my phone jn download mode you don't see that list in the left top no more. Only the download screen

pclord99 said:
When I put my phone jn download mode you don't see that list in the left top no more. Only the download screen
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Phone model # and rom version?
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TheGhost1951 said:
Phone model # and rom version?
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Galaxy S8+ G955F with renovate rom 7.5 Android 7.0 nougat based on stock Samsung software but all Samsung apps deleted

pclord99 said:
Galaxy S8+ G955F with renovate rom 7.5 Android 7.0 nougat based on stock Samsung software but all Samsung apps deleted
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Should be an app somewhere to show Knox status....tried googling it?
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TheGhost1951 said:
Should be an app somewhere to show Knox status....tried googling it?
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1j6g5VPnYDUOAxTtMTe3nBBSv7-CQxC2W/view?usp=drivesdk

pclord99 said:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1j6g5VPnYDUOAxTtMTe3nBBSv7-CQxC2W/view?usp=drivesdk
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So what is your problem if Knox not tripped?
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TheGhost1951 said:
So what is your problem if Knox not tripped?
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Nothing it was as answer on the head message from the guy that asked how to set Knox to 0x0. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

pclord99 said:
Nothing it was as answer on the head message from the guy that asked how to set Knox to 0x0. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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No problem
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pclord99 said:
When I put my phone jn download mode you don't see that list in the left top no more. Only the download screen
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You knox status is still 0x1, you are just running a kernel that ignores it in favor of a fake 0x0. If you flash stock kernel you will see 0x1 again.
Can you run samsung pay? Or secure folder?

Guys, the Snapdragon root method (SamPWND) does NOT trip Knox. But it's a limited root method as I think it uses an eng boot image, and the bootloader is still locked, so you can't flash custom ROMs or anything like that.
But yes, all true root methods do trip Knox. The ROMs may show it as being 0x0, but that's easy to spoof in software. As others have said, boot into Recovery and you'll see the true KNox status which cannot be spoofed