Hello all,
I just bought a Galaxy S5 and did some authenticity checking on it. I expected the G900F version since I live in Europe (Romania). It seems that it is the G9006V version. I chatted with a Samsung representative and he told me based on the IMEI that this is the case. I also checked out the download mode and it said the same. Antutu gave it a score of 50483 and says it has a Qualcomm 801 chipset, so at least it seems to be genuine.
I have the option of getting a refund. My question is, do I have any reason to? Are there any downsides to the Chinese version? It does have Google Play, I've read that mentioned as missing. It also came with Android 5, or so it says in the device info screen, and cannot be upgraded to a later version. Does the European version get a newer one? Will mine be able to get updates too?
P.S. The About Device Screen / Model Number displays "SM-G900F" and under Build Number there is a section called "United Arab Emirates". When I went into an info screen in the S Health app I got a screen of text in Arabic... This is weird, does it have any bearing on the software on my phone and the possibility to upgrade it in the future?
Where did you buy it? Unfortunatly this appears to be another case of a falsely labeled G900F
justinxfan said:
Where did you buy it? Unfortunatly this appears to be another case of a falsely labeled G900F
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I ordered it from evomag.ro, a fairly reputable local webshop. I'm not aware of the story with the falsely labeled phones, could you please fill me in? Especially regarding how it affects me as a user?
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i have just ordered a note3 but when i watched the videos of the phone booting up it says SM-N9000Q. I checked the sammobile but there is no firmware or no model like that. Is this only for Turkey like Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 N8005?
In the other hand is this a bad or good thing to have N9000Q?
Does anyone know something about this model? what is the differences from N900?
Thanks,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46218461#post46218461
only thing that i really want to know is shall i cancel my order and order a SM-N9000?
it depends... first of all what do you expect? n9000q has a sticker on the box stating it is aimed to use in several European countries but as far as we read it seems like they sell it only at Turkey. so probably this means we will get updates later then other models and probably they will stop updating device while others got their updates. we have n8005 and n7000 as an example (n8005 fits this situation more and i don't have n7100 so don't know what is going on about it).
i wish samsung will correct this in note 3 but this is just a wish and if they don't.... for most this will not be a problem because they will never know if there is an update that their model haven't received and for some it again will not be a problem because they will root and install custom roms. others will have to live with it or sell the phone early then they planned to.
One of my Co-workers who visits China a lot came back with a new dual sim note 4.
That was the first thing than made me think fake, then I noticed it had no gapps at all... Not play store no gmail etc.
I took some screenshots of the about screens... Even the model number looks wrong (9100)
He swears black and blue that he bought it from an official Samsung shop... But I'm suspect of it.
Why would you post screens of your coworkers device that include the serial and imei numbers?
americasteam said:
Why would you post screens of your coworkers device that include the serial and imei numbers?
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whoops. good point, will fix and re-upload.
device is fake for sure!
actually as it turns out its real...
It appears to be a "Chinese Gov Sanctioned" version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55939390&postcount=15
Its missing Knox (yay) only comes in 16gb (boo) and has no G-Apps stuff in it (wtf?!)
Yeah, I believe a lot of phones sold in China don't have GApps.
As an example, the Chinese version of the OnePlus One also doesn't have gapps preinstalled.
It's real. All Android phones sold in China don't have gapps, and 9100 is the Chinese version of note 4 with dual sim cards. Dual sim cards is a really common thing in China. (I'm Chinese btw)
How much... I'm in Thailand would it work here and the USA. Can you just download the play store. If much cheaper what disadvantages would there be?
I am in Guangzhou and wanted to purchase N9100 HK version . I read the thread here . While asking for a mobile phone market someone referred me to second hand stuff da sha tou market which is filled with knock offs. It took me quite a while to identify a fake . The recovery and knox were copied and imei.info suggested it to be n9100.I saw such a good knock off that may be now i have the original one and i cannot believe it,
The very next day i went to a different market in guading . I purchase note 4 n9100 hk version but there are many inconsistencies in the box and back panel from the pics already present on xda
1.Made in Vietnam is not printed on the box.
2.Made in XYZ country is nowhere mentioned on the phone and battery . The sticker at the back of the phone just mentions made by samsung.
3.The speaker grill is steel color , pics in the above thread have black speaker grill.
4.There is no IMEI stickers on the box but the imei matches everywhere
Antutu gave around 44113 ,specs matched and thats the reason i purchased it however i cannot clear some points in my head. Screen is amoled white sucks while black is awesome.I am not impressed with the screen , the whites have yellowish tint . My tab pro has much much better screen than note 4
SECOND ROUND OF CONFUSION HK OR CHINA VERSION
I was considering the baseband version as SM-N9100ZWUTGY of Hong Kong version as printed on the box imei sticker and URL but it turned out to be different . http://www.samsung.com/hk_en/consumer/mobile/smartphones/smartphones/[B]SM-N9100ZWUTGY[/B]#none
N9100ZHU1ANK2 is the baseband version
q1. Did the seller flash the china version with hk rom and replaced the box ? Is there any to check via serial number from samsung ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/help/n9100-dual-flash-try-n9100-hongkong-t2956342 . I wasn't aware of this method until i purchased this devices otherwise i would have purchased a china version and paid lesser . I was under the impression that flashing GAPPS isnt imperfect and there are some sync issues.
q2 . Is there any way to check if the samsung battery is genuine ? Nokia provided web verification
Please clear the points mentioned , i cannot get this out from my head. I paid so much for a phone whose warranty i cannot use .
q3. Is there any way i can identify that its a HK version and not a china version ? The box has url printed as samsung.com.hk but inside the box the manual has the url printed samsung.com/cn .There is a spelling mistake too in the manual "Samsung Elcetron cs:
Can someone readout the chinese , is it mandarin or cantonese? Battery and Charger
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Manufacturing country is printed on the battery but not on the phone . Its 100% original samsung HK version , got it checked from the service center.
Dead giveaway that its a fake note4...
mkim055 said:
Dead giveaway that its a fake note4...
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I just checked it with cpu-z everything matches with the original one , it recognizes a 64gb card
I just returned back from market and posted this . I guess the knockoff can't connect to kies . I also got a update notification on phone. The phone is working good on china unicom 4g .
I am watching some youtube videos and the device seems to be ok but there is NO Note 4 written on the back , the promotional pics on samsung website also doesnt have note 4 written but production model has note 4 written.
Heart rate sensor app is missing but the sensor seems to be working *#0*# check
My head is spinning right now even after few hours of use its still not clear may be someone owning the n9100 hk version can clear it up .
The stylus is of good quality with the textures and steel frame is machined (dont know what its called but like the one on htc phones.
Man try phone info samsung on play store and has a thread on xda it will help you
Original or Fake SM-N9100 ?
Hi All, i bought N9100 dual sim international version from china... I checked in IMEI.info site... there its listed and having warranty. But below are the discrepancy,
1) Its an play store installed version but Samsung Voice Recorder app, KNOX app is not available.
2) Samsung S note is working offline, but not logging into samsung cn account even.
3) Kites 2.6 and 3 is not at all recognizing the device ( does it not recognize in kitkat version? ).
phone details from about phone.
SM-9100 running stock kitkat 4.4.4, baseband version N9100ZCU1AOB1
security s/w version MDF v1.1 release 5, VPN v1.4 release 2
Knox 2.2 stated to be available. I checked phone info samsung app and the Knox warranty void 0x1, but the color mentioned in the app is wrong as white, but mine is black
Can anyone suggest resolutions for the above to confirm originality and stock samsung apps availability, any would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Ajitanto
Both the phone and battery look original to me. However i am not sure if its chinese or hk version. The amoled screen's yellowish white is normal i have it on all my note 4s and the knock offs "never" have amoled screen.
Do you still have that phone?
Hallo.
Just got my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 from an e-Bay trader. I think the dealer has a Chinese seat but the phone was shipped from England.
Please have a look at the photos. I also have a box of the original Polish version. It is in both cases the Exynos variant: SM-N910C.
The boxes are slightly different in the color of the printing: Polish ink is slightly darker than the new variant. On the back side of the package the dubious box has "WiFi Certified" instead of "HD Voice", which is labeled on the Polish box. Everything else is equal.
If the device is nominally a SM-N910C model, however it is sold for the Arabic market, can I assume that this device still is technically strictly equivalent to the variant for the European market never the less? Could it be that different or inferior components are used for different Markets? Does Samsung use different tolerances for different markets? Or is the device absolutely identical to the European variant?
Is there a way to check whether this device is an original Samsung Note 4 without opening the box?
Thanks for the hints!
You could watch a youtube video over the fake differences with the clones.
Just boot into download mood
take a look here,and fill out the IMEI nr
https://support-ca.samsung.com/secaew/consumer/ca/findwarranty/warrantyinfo
In which country is the Note 4 being produced? I know that the Polish Variant of the Model SM-N910C is produced in Vietnam. My Model is produced in China however. So is it a fake or is the Note 4 being produced in both countries? How does the SM-N910C from Vietnam differ from the SM-N910C from China? Are they technicaly identical? Is one country better" than the other? Are there different parts and tolerances being used?
Note 4's are being produced in vietnam and china....The ones being produced in china are not fake (in my country we get 910c which is made in china under official warranty). You can download an app called "phoneinfo" from playstore it will tell you whether you have a genuine samsung phone or not. The 910C being made in china and Vietnam are identical and have no difference.....no quality preference i have seen many phones from both countries. However this is my personal opinion and experience, a senior member may guide futhur on "different parts and tolerances" being used.
Dont worry about the box. In my country some people import brand new phones and ask the sellers to send phone and accessories only. They do this to avoid custom duty (which is levied on new phones only) so they pose as if they are importing a used phone. Then the use a locally made clone box to sell the phone.....the phone itself and the accessories are mostly original.
If the s-pen works while hovering above the screen then it's a real note 4.
If you turn it on, you will see right away the on the screen.
Replicas will never have SAMOLEDs and you will see right away the difference in colors and they are so obvious.
The Polish C-version, which is manufactured in Vietnam and no doubt original, has an internal memory of 24,65GB (according to Kies and Windows). The new Arabic C-version, which has been manufactured in China, has an internal memory of 24,57GB (again, according to Kies and Windows). Could this be a sign for a fake phone or are such minor differences and fluctuations normal and due to the manufactoring process?
CPU Z and Phone Info show absolutely identical hardware, only the internal memory is slightly smaller in the China-manufactured device. The China-version is slightly faster in the Antutu and Geekbench benchmarks however. So, can I now finally and definitly be SURE that the nev, China-made Note 4 is an original, genuine Samsung Galaxy Note 4 SM-N910C and is definitly NOT a fake ?
Hmm .. Could all you Note 4 owners write here which version you have, where it was manufactured and how big the internal memory is.
Many many thanks!
P.s.: Where is the N910F (Snapdragon-Version) being produced?
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Note 4's are being produced in vietnam and china....The ones being produced in china are not fake (in my country we get 910c which is made in china under official warranty). You can download an app called "phoneinfo" from playstore it will tell you whether you have a genuine samsung phone or not. The 910C being made in china and Vietnam are identical and have no difference.....no quality preference i have seen many phones from both countries. However this is my personal opinion and experience, a senior member may guide futhur on "different parts and tolerances" being used.
Dont worry about the box. In my country some people import brand new phones and ask the sellers to send phone and accessories only. They do this to avoid custom duty (which is levied on new phones only) so they pose as if they are importing a used phone. Then the use a locally made clone box to sell the phone.....the phone itself and the accessories are mostly original.
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Yes, just instal free "Phone Info" from play store, we'll know it fake or not.
FYI: It's definitly original.. Best way to find out is the Antutu Officer..
Other possibility:
- (Samsung) Phone Info
- CPU-Z
- KIES
pimpl said:
FYI: It's definitly original.. Best way to find out is the Antutu Officer..
Other possibility:
- (Samsung) Phone Info
- CPU-Z
- KIES
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Told you....if it has SUPER AMOLED (PURE BLACKS)...and S-pen hovering works....then its deffo an original phone.
About six months ago I purchased a fake 512GB Samsung Galaxy S10 plus for $800 off eBay..
I had no idea it was fake until a few days ago after watching YouTube videos on fake S10’s...
It looked soo legit when it arrived and the nice packaging...
Live and learn....
I have not been able to update the phone since I bought it...
Is it possible to update a fake Galaxy S10?
What would anyone else do if they were in my position?
So it's one of those Chinese knock offs? Is it even running Android 10 and One Ui 2?
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So it's one of those Chinese knock offs? Is it even running Android 10 and One Ui 2?
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It’s still on Android 9... SM-9750 Chinese...... I wish I could find the China man that sold me this.
SM-9750 is a real Samsung model number. It's the Hong Kong variant I want to say. How do you know it's a copy?
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SM-9750 is a real Samsung model number. It's the Hong Kong variant I want to say. How do you know it's a copy?
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I downloaded a Benchmark app called: AnTuTu Benchmark .app..... It a great app and it told me my phone was fake...
Under settings my serial number is: 123456789abcd... Another sign that my sign that my phone is fake.
Hmm it's possible it might be a hacked phone meaning they hacked the crap out of Android and made everything look legit when it's not. Or it could be a copy. If it's running Samsung firmware with one UI you should be able to flash the latest Samsung firmware with Odin.
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Hmm it's possible it might be a hacked phone meaning they hacked the crap out of Android and made everything look legit when it's not. Or it could be a copy. If it's running Samsung firmware with one UI you should be able to flash the latest Samsung firmware with Odin.
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Thanks,,,I’m gonna try to flash with Odin.
Cayin N6 said:
About six months ago I purchased a fake 512GB Samsung Galaxy S10 plus for $800 off eBay..
I had no idea it was fake until a few days ago after watching YouTube videos on fake S10’s...
It looked soo legit when it arrived and the nice packaging...
Live and learn....
I have not been able to update the phone since I bought it...
Is it possible to update a fake Galaxy S10?
What would anyone else do if they were in my position?
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I’m confused....my serial number looks like it has a legit serial number when I type: *#06# on the phone pad but when I go into settings about phone my serial number is different and looks like this: 0123456789ABCDF
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I’m confused....my serial number looks like it has a legit serial number when I type: *#06# on the phone pad but when I go into settings about phone my serial number is different and looks like this: 0123456789ABCDF
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Yeah most times if serial numbers don't match like that it's fake and best way to find out is use cpu z and antutu and look into hardware info cpu has to be the qualcomm snapdragon 855 if it's the chinese version if it's like MPD or MTD something something random then yeah it's fake sometimes it will show you the real memory size it's supposed to be 8GB i can't remember fakes ones have less sometimes 1GB or something.
Sorry you got duped bro
Cayin N6 said:
About six months ago I purchased a fake 512GB Samsung Galaxy S10 plus for $800 off eBay..
I had no idea it was fake until a few days ago after watching YouTube videos on fake S10’s...
It looked soo legit when it arrived and the nice packaging...
Live and learn....
I have not been able to update the phone since I bought it...
Is it possible to update a fake Galaxy S10?
What would anyone else do if they were in my position?
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Here’s the readings from CPU-Z
Cayin N6 said:
Here’s the readings from CPU-Z
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If the app CPU-Z is accurate my fake Galaxy S10 Plus has pretty much the same specs as the real S10 Plus...
Cores: 8
Architecture: 8x @ 3.00 GHz
Clock speed: 2.20 GHz - 3.00Ghz
Model: SM-G9750 (hero2qltezc)
Manufacture: Samsung
Board: universal8895
Hardware: Qualcomm Technologies Inc. SM8150
Screen Size:10.51 inches
Screen Resolution: 1440 x 3040 pixels
Screen Density: 319 dpi
Total Ram: 8000 MB
Android Version: 9.0
API Level: 22
Bootloader: Unknown
Why not simply check samsung warranty here:-
https://imei24.com/imei_check/Samsung/
Will tell you serial, both imei numbers etc and warranty status
Wingchundub said:
Why not simply check samsung warranty here:-
https://imei24.com/imei_check/Samsung/
Will tell you serial, both imei numbers etc and warranty status
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The IMEI checker says the Brand is Samsung and Black List is Clean whatever that means..
If it gives you serials numbers and matching imei's regardless if single or dual sim, is real.
Blacklist means if it shows BLACKLISTED it means the previous owner has reported the phone lost or stolen for an insurance claim, or not paid rest of bill, thererfore the network provider block the imeis from operating, aka no calls, texts or data ONLY wifi can be used.
And other easy way to test is to do a software update or manually via odin, download official software.
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If it gives you serials numbers and matching imei's regardless if single or dual sim, is real.
Blacklist means if it shows BLACKLISTED it means the previous owner has reported the phone lost or stolen for an insurance claim, or not paid rest of bill, thererfore the network provider block the imeis from operating, aka no calls, texts or data ONLY wifi can be used.
And other easy way to test is to do a software update or manually via odin, download official software.
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Ok, thanks.... In the app “ AnTuTu Benchmark” .app it tells me my phone is fake...Cool little app...
Thanks for all your help..
I hope I can update this S10 to Android 10.
Sounds like it's a hacked phone more so than fake to to me. You might be able to flash the latest firmware and everything reset to normal depending on if China messed with the internal circuits or not.