Fake or Real Note 4 (HK or CN version N9100) - Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am in Guangzhou and wanted to purchase N9100 HK version . I read the thread here . While asking for a mobile phone market someone referred me to second hand stuff da sha tou market which is filled with knock offs. It took me quite a while to identify a fake . The recovery and knox were copied and imei.info suggested it to be n9100.I saw such a good knock off that may be now i have the original one and i cannot believe it,
The very next day i went to a different market in guading . I purchase note 4 n9100 hk version but there are many inconsistencies in the box and back panel from the pics already present on xda
1.Made in Vietnam is not printed on the box.
2.Made in XYZ country is nowhere mentioned on the phone and battery . The sticker at the back of the phone just mentions made by samsung.
3.The speaker grill is steel color , pics in the above thread have black speaker grill.
4.There is no IMEI stickers on the box but the imei matches everywhere
Antutu gave around 44113 ,specs matched and thats the reason i purchased it however i cannot clear some points in my head. Screen is amoled white sucks while black is awesome.I am not impressed with the screen , the whites have yellowish tint . My tab pro has much much better screen than note 4
SECOND ROUND OF CONFUSION HK OR CHINA VERSION
I was considering the baseband version as SM-N9100ZWUTGY of Hong Kong version as printed on the box imei sticker and URL but it turned out to be different . http://www.samsung.com/hk_en/consumer/mobile/smartphones/smartphones/[B]SM-N9100ZWUTGY[/B]#none
N9100ZHU1ANK2 is the baseband version
q1. Did the seller flash the china version with hk rom and replaced the box ? Is there any to check via serial number from samsung ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/help/n9100-dual-flash-try-n9100-hongkong-t2956342 . I wasn't aware of this method until i purchased this devices otherwise i would have purchased a china version and paid lesser . I was under the impression that flashing GAPPS isnt imperfect and there are some sync issues.
q2 . Is there any way to check if the samsung battery is genuine ? Nokia provided web verification
Please clear the points mentioned , i cannot get this out from my head. I paid so much for a phone whose warranty i cannot use .
q3. Is there any way i can identify that its a HK version and not a china version ? The box has url printed as samsung.com.hk but inside the box the manual has the url printed samsung.com/cn .There is a spelling mistake too in the manual "Samsung Elcetron cs:
Can someone readout the chinese , is it mandarin or cantonese? Battery and Charger
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Manufacturing country is printed on the battery but not on the phone . Its 100% original samsung HK version , got it checked from the service center.

Dead giveaway that its a fake note4...

mkim055 said:
Dead giveaway that its a fake note4...
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I just checked it with cpu-z everything matches with the original one , it recognizes a 64gb card

I just returned back from market and posted this . I guess the knockoff can't connect to kies . I also got a update notification on phone. The phone is working good on china unicom 4g .
I am watching some youtube videos and the device seems to be ok but there is NO Note 4 written on the back , the promotional pics on samsung website also doesnt have note 4 written but production model has note 4 written.
Heart rate sensor app is missing but the sensor seems to be working *#0*# check
My head is spinning right now even after few hours of use its still not clear may be someone owning the n9100 hk version can clear it up .
The stylus is of good quality with the textures and steel frame is machined (dont know what its called but like the one on htc phones.

Man try phone info samsung on play store and has a thread on xda it will help you

Original or Fake SM-N9100 ?
Hi All, i bought N9100 dual sim international version from china... I checked in IMEI.info site... there its listed and having warranty. But below are the discrepancy,
1) Its an play store installed version but Samsung Voice Recorder app, KNOX app is not available.
2) Samsung S note is working offline, but not logging into samsung cn account even.
3) Kites 2.6 and 3 is not at all recognizing the device ( does it not recognize in kitkat version? ).
phone details from about phone.
SM-9100 running stock kitkat 4.4.4, baseband version N9100ZCU1AOB1
security s/w version MDF v1.1 release 5, VPN v1.4 release 2
Knox 2.2 stated to be available. I checked phone info samsung app and the Knox warranty void 0x1, but the color mentioned in the app is wrong as white, but mine is black
Can anyone suggest resolutions for the above to confirm originality and stock samsung apps availability, any would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Ajitanto

Both the phone and battery look original to me. However i am not sure if its chinese or hk version. The amoled screen's yellowish white is normal i have it on all my note 4s and the knock offs "never" have amoled screen.

Do you still have that phone?

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[Q] UK version vs EU version hardware difference ?

I have ordered UK version Note from Handtec but they by mistake send me EU version . Just before send it back wondering if is any hardware difference between them . Sticker under battery says Made by Samsung , battery - Made in Japan/Finished in Korea. My old SGS2 sticker says Made in Korea by Samsung , battery Made in Korea/ Finished in China. Can someone with UK version check for me where battery and handset are made ? please.
mortcw said:
I have ordered UK version Note from Handtec but they by mistake send me EU version . Just before send it back wondering if is any hardware difference between them . Sticker under battery says Made by Samsung , battery - Made in Japan/Finished in Korea. My old SGS2 sticker says Made in Korea by Samsung , battery Made in Korea/ Finished in China. Can someone with UK version check for me where battery and handset are made ? please.
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As far as I know....handtec does not guarantee UK versions...
I had 3 phones from them:
1. Polish
2. German
3. UK
Don't think there are any difference bw the hardwares...all have dead pixels...
ps. If there's nothing wrong with the phone you have received, why would you want to send it back?
Although...I did notice the pen responsiveness is better on my UK...but that could be the phone itself rather than the version difference.
can't see that where it was made would make a difference, as their factories likely produce models on different lines according to market. Anyways, for what it's worth mine was UK purchased from CPW and phone says made in Korea by Samsung, battery made in Japan/finished in Korea.
Main thing is does the phone work where you are, in which case what's the problem?

Is this a fake?

One of my Co-workers who visits China a lot came back with a new dual sim note 4.
That was the first thing than made me think fake, then I noticed it had no gapps at all... Not play store no gmail etc.
I took some screenshots of the about screens... Even the model number looks wrong (9100)
He swears black and blue that he bought it from an official Samsung shop... But I'm suspect of it.
Why would you post screens of your coworkers device that include the serial and imei numbers?
americasteam said:
Why would you post screens of your coworkers device that include the serial and imei numbers?
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whoops. good point, will fix and re-upload.
device is fake for sure!
actually as it turns out its real...
It appears to be a "Chinese Gov Sanctioned" version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55939390&postcount=15
Its missing Knox (yay) only comes in 16gb (boo) and has no G-Apps stuff in it (wtf?!)
Yeah, I believe a lot of phones sold in China don't have GApps.
As an example, the Chinese version of the OnePlus One also doesn't have gapps preinstalled.
It's real. All Android phones sold in China don't have gapps, and 9100 is the Chinese version of note 4 with dual sim cards. Dual sim cards is a really common thing in China. (I'm Chinese btw)
How much... I'm in Thailand would it work here and the USA. Can you just download the play store. If much cheaper what disadvantages would there be?

[Q] Is my S5 real or fake?

I know I'm probably just being paranoid from watching too many videos of near-perfect S5 clones, but here goes... I just got a Charcoal Black 16GB SGS5 (SM-G900F). From what I have seen so far, it has all the features a real S5 should have, such as a working fingerprint scanner, air gestures, Air View, NFC, or a slow-motion camera. The screen is vibrant and responsive, and the flash/pulse sensor looks like the real deal rather than a sticker. The device automatically downloaded an update after I connected it to WiFi, and I was able to import the contacts from my old S2 using Kies. I ran the Phone Info app, which informed me that it is a genuine Vietnamese-made phone with a Qualcomm processor. However, there are a couple things that bug me. First off, the sticker underneath the battery does not state the device's country of origin, it just says "Made by Samsung" and "Samsung, Yateley, GU46 6CG, UK" (which appears to be Samsung's European QA lab). Also, while the IMEI on the sticker matches the one on the box and the one that shows up when I dial *#06#, it belongs to a 2004 LG flip phone according to imei.info, and a couple other IMEI check sites couldn't recognize it at all (only one identified it as an S5). Moreover, although the phone responds to most Samsung codes, there are some that don't work - for example *#0011*# (which someone on here said meant the phone is fake).
Thanks you in advance for your replies!
Hi,
Where did you buy it from?
I cant run that code on my s5 sm-G900F either, the fact it runs with kies and slow mo and all the other bits suggests to me its a real one. Entirely possible some sites match it to an old phone, IMEI numbers can be recycled when phones are destroyed. You could check your warranty status with Samsung to check its a real one?
vidyaftw said:
I know I'm probably just being paranoid from watching too many videos of near-perfect S5 clones, but here goes... I just got a Charcoal Black 16GB SGS5 (SM-G900F). From what I have seen so far, it has all the features a real S5 should have, such as a working fingerprint scanner, air gestures, Air View, NFC, or a slow-motion camera. The screen is vibrant and responsive, and the flash/pulse sensor looks like the real deal rather than a sticker. The device automatically downloaded an update after I connected it to WiFi, and I was able to import the contacts from my old S2 using Kies. I ran the Phone Info app, which informed me that it is a genuine Vietnamese-made phone with a Qualcomm processor. However, there are a couple things that bug me. First off, the sticker underneath the battery does not state the device's country of origin, it just says "Made by Samsung" and "Samsung, Yateley, GU46 6CG, UK" (which appears to be Samsung's European QA lab). Also, while the IMEI on the sticker matches the one on the box and the one that shows up when I dial *#06#, it belongs to a 2004 LG flip phone according to imei.info, and a couple other IMEI check sites couldn't recognize it at all (only one identified it as an S5). Moreover, although the phone responds to most Samsung codes, there are some that don't work - for example *#0011*# (which someone on here said meant the phone is fake).
Thanks you in advance for your replies!
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Do a hardware test. Look especially at screen results if it's 1080 or 720. If 720 then it's fake
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i just tried the last code you mentioned - it should be *#0011# without the last * you entered. In addition, my galaxy s5 also has the Made by SAMSUNG and not the country of origin underneath the battery. I do not think you have any reason to be worried. Enjoy your new phone!
I bought it from a store (with nearly 100% positive feedback) via my country's leading auction/shopping website (similar to eBay). I've read on here that someone has spotted Note 3 clones at a market in China that could connect to Kies, which worried me a bit. On the other hand, no pictures of said clones were posted, and the Kies software in question could have been a dummy app set up by the seller. Besides, I know it's a dumb question, but how can I check the warranty status? I searched the official Samsung site, but found nothing.
EDIT: I tried the code again without the * and it works, and the screen resolution is 1080x1920 according to the "Screen Resolution and Density" app from Play Store. What's odd is that it shows a density of 480 ppi, whereas the specs say it's 432. Anyway, thanks for everyone's replies!
Hi
mine is a S5 Duos (SM-G900FD) brought from Bahrain in it's sticker it clearly says "Made in China by Samsung" and beneath "Samsung, Yateley, GU46 6GG, UK"
Not 6CG .... 6GG ........ strange?
vidyaftw said:
I know I'm probably just being paranoid from watching too many videos of near-perfect S5 clones, but here goes... I just got a Charcoal Black 16GB SGS5 (SM-G900F). From what I have seen so far, it has all the features a real S5 should have, such as a working fingerprint scanner, air gestures, Air View, NFC, or a slow-motion camera. The screen is vibrant and responsive, and the flash/pulse sensor looks like the real deal rather than a sticker. The device automatically downloaded an update after I connected it to WiFi, and I was able to import the contacts from my old S2 using Kies. I ran the Phone Info app, which informed me that it is a genuine Vietnamese-made phone with a Qualcomm processor. However, there are a couple things that bug me. First off, the sticker underneath the battery does not state the device's country of origin, it just says "Made by Samsung" and "Samsung, Yateley, GU46 6CG, UK" (which appears to be Samsung's European QA lab). Also, while the IMEI on the sticker matches the one on the box and the one that shows up when I dial *#06#, it belongs to a 2004 LG flip phone according to imei.info, and a couple other IMEI check sites couldn't recognize it at all (only one identified it as an S5). Moreover, although the phone responds to most Samsung codes, there are some that don't work - for example *#0011*# (which someone on here said meant the phone is fake).
Thanks you in advance for your replies!
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Dont`t worry. Your phone is certainly the real one. If it have all the features of a real one it should be the real one but if it syncs with Kies (which yours does), it's definitely the real one.
wrong code
You're wrong. The code is *#0011# and not *#0011*#
vidyaftw said:
I know I'm probably just being paranoid from watching too many videos of near-perfect S5 clones, but here goes... I just got a Charcoal Black 16GB SGS5 (SM-G900F). From what I have seen so far, it has all the features a real S5 should have, such as a working fingerprint scanner, air gestures, Air View, NFC, or a slow-motion camera. The screen is vibrant and responsive, and the flash/pulse sensor looks like the real deal rather than a sticker. The device automatically downloaded an update after I connected it to WiFi, and I was able to import the contacts from my old S2 using Kies. I ran the Phone Info app, which informed me that it is a genuine Vietnamese-made phone with a Qualcomm processor. However, there are a couple things that bug me. First off, the sticker underneath the battery does not state the device's country of origin, it just says "Made by Samsung" and "Samsung, Yateley, GU46 6CG, UK" (which appears to be Samsung's European QA lab). Also, while the IMEI on the sticker matches the one on the box and the one that shows up when I dial *#06#, it belongs to a 2004 LG flip phone according to imei.info, and a couple other IMEI check sites couldn't recognize it at all (only one identified it as an S5). Moreover, although the phone responds to most Samsung codes, there are some that don't work - for example *#0011*# (which someone on here said meant the phone is fake).
Thanks you in advance for your replies!
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i need frimware yateley gu46 6gg uk devaice smg920 f please help me
A original S5 battery is "Made in KOREA, Assembled in Vietnam" in Battery info.
---------- Post added at 05:28 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:26 PM ----------
Simple update your S5 firmware (download from https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/) (Download The CORRECT firmware for your region), Extract .TAR file, Update using ODIN(AP Flash Button) Using flash Options "Nand Erase, F. Reset and auto reboot"
If work, Is a original S5.

Galaxy Note 4 - Fake??!

Hallo.
Just got my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 from an e-Bay trader. I think the dealer has a Chinese seat but the phone was shipped from England.
Please have a look at the photos. I also have a box of the original Polish version. It is in both cases the Exynos variant: SM-N910C.
The boxes are slightly different in the color of the printing: Polish ink is slightly darker than the new variant. On the back side of the package the dubious box has "WiFi Certified" instead of "HD Voice", which is labeled on the Polish box. Everything else is equal.
If the device is nominally a SM-N910C model, however it is sold for the Arabic market, can I assume that this device still is technically strictly equivalent to the variant for the European market never the less? Could it be that different or inferior components are used for different Markets? Does Samsung use different tolerances for different markets? Or is the device absolutely identical to the European variant?
Is there a way to check whether this device is an original Samsung Note 4 without opening the box?
Thanks for the hints!
You could watch a youtube video over the fake differences with the clones.
Just boot into download mood
take a look here,and fill out the IMEI nr
https://support-ca.samsung.com/secaew/consumer/ca/findwarranty/warrantyinfo
In which country is the Note 4 being produced? I know that the Polish Variant of the Model SM-N910C is produced in Vietnam. My Model is produced in China however. So is it a fake or is the Note 4 being produced in both countries? How does the SM-N910C from Vietnam differ from the SM-N910C from China? Are they technicaly identical? Is one country better" than the other? Are there different parts and tolerances being used?
Note 4's are being produced in vietnam and china....The ones being produced in china are not fake (in my country we get 910c which is made in china under official warranty). You can download an app called "phoneinfo" from playstore it will tell you whether you have a genuine samsung phone or not. The 910C being made in china and Vietnam are identical and have no difference.....no quality preference i have seen many phones from both countries. However this is my personal opinion and experience, a senior member may guide futhur on "different parts and tolerances" being used.
Dont worry about the box. In my country some people import brand new phones and ask the sellers to send phone and accessories only. They do this to avoid custom duty (which is levied on new phones only) so they pose as if they are importing a used phone. Then the use a locally made clone box to sell the phone.....the phone itself and the accessories are mostly original.
If the s-pen works while hovering above the screen then it's a real note 4.
If you turn it on, you will see right away the on the screen.
Replicas will never have SAMOLEDs and you will see right away the difference in colors and they are so obvious.
The Polish C-version, which is manufactured in Vietnam and no doubt original, has an internal memory of 24,65GB (according to Kies and Windows). The new Arabic C-version, which has been manufactured in China, has an internal memory of 24,57GB (again, according to Kies and Windows). Could this be a sign for a fake phone or are such minor differences and fluctuations normal and due to the manufactoring process?
CPU Z and Phone Info show absolutely identical hardware, only the internal memory is slightly smaller in the China-manufactured device. The China-version is slightly faster in the Antutu and Geekbench benchmarks however. So, can I now finally and definitly be SURE that the nev, China-made Note 4 is an original, genuine Samsung Galaxy Note 4 SM-N910C and is definitly NOT a fake ?
Hmm .. Could all you Note 4 owners write here which version you have, where it was manufactured ​​and how big the internal memory is.
Many many thanks!
P.s.: Where is the N910F (Snapdragon-Version) being produced?
dork997 said:
Note 4's are being produced in vietnam and china....The ones being produced in china are not fake (in my country we get 910c which is made in china under official warranty). You can download an app called "phoneinfo" from playstore it will tell you whether you have a genuine samsung phone or not. The 910C being made in china and Vietnam are identical and have no difference.....no quality preference i have seen many phones from both countries. However this is my personal opinion and experience, a senior member may guide futhur on "different parts and tolerances" being used.
Dont worry about the box. In my country some people import brand new phones and ask the sellers to send phone and accessories only. They do this to avoid custom duty (which is levied on new phones only) so they pose as if they are importing a used phone. Then the use a locally made clone box to sell the phone.....the phone itself and the accessories are mostly original.
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Yes, just instal free "Phone Info" from play store, we'll know it fake or not.
FYI: It's definitly original.. Best way to find out is the Antutu Officer..
Other possibility:
- (Samsung) Phone Info
- CPU-Z
- KIES
pimpl said:
FYI: It's definitly original.. Best way to find out is the Antutu Officer..
Other possibility:
- (Samsung) Phone Info
- CPU-Z
- KIES
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Told you....if it has SUPER AMOLED (PURE BLACKS)...and S-pen hovering works....then its deffo an original phone.

Any downsides to using G9006V (China version) in Europe?

Hello all,
I just bought a Galaxy S5 and did some authenticity checking on it. I expected the G900F version since I live in Europe (Romania). It seems that it is the G9006V version. I chatted with a Samsung representative and he told me based on the IMEI that this is the case. I also checked out the download mode and it said the same. Antutu gave it a score of 50483 and says it has a Qualcomm 801 chipset, so at least it seems to be genuine.
I have the option of getting a refund. My question is, do I have any reason to? Are there any downsides to the Chinese version? It does have Google Play, I've read that mentioned as missing. It also came with Android 5, or so it says in the device info screen, and cannot be upgraded to a later version. Does the European version get a newer one? Will mine be able to get updates too?
P.S. The About Device Screen / Model Number displays "SM-G900F" and under Build Number there is a section called "United Arab Emirates". When I went into an info screen in the S Health app I got a screen of text in Arabic... This is weird, does it have any bearing on the software on my phone and the possibility to upgrade it in the future?
Where did you buy it? Unfortunatly this appears to be another case of a falsely labeled G900F
justinxfan said:
Where did you buy it? Unfortunatly this appears to be another case of a falsely labeled G900F
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I ordered it from evomag.ro, a fairly reputable local webshop. I'm not aware of the story with the falsely labeled phones, could you please fill me in? Especially regarding how it affects me as a user?

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