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CM11 is going further!

Cheers!
CyanogenMod Team just announced a change in it's repository for the latest Motorola devices: they use the same base repository.
What does it means? We have tons more of CM11 contributors for the Moto X!
As you can check in the article below, there are various kinds of Moto devices that will be sharing the same repository.
For you, whom checked lots of times the http://download.cyanogenmod.org/ for a new nightly and there was nothing, only some old test builds, there is a new nightly build for testing under the codename moto_msm8960dt. And you can check the latest changelog in http://www.cmxlog.com/11/moto_msm8960dt/
The link for the article is:
http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/motorola-g-and-more
Thank you, CyanogenMod Team, for all your efforts doing wonderful things to this set of devices and unleashing it's power!
And thanks, also, to all the developers and contributors present on XDA Developers Forum, whose are also part of this!

fredamsouza said:
Cheers!
CyanogenMod Team just announced a change in it's repository for the latest Motorola devices: they use the same base repository.
What does it means? We have tons more of CM11 contributors for the Moto X!
As you can check in the article below, there are various kinds of Moto devices that will be sharing the same repository.
For you, whom checked lots of times the http://download.cyanogenmod.org/ for a new nightly and there was nothing, only some old test builds, there is a new nightly build for testing under the codename moto_msm8960dt. And you can check the latest changelog in http://www.cmxlog.com/11/moto_msm8960dt/
The link for the article is:
http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/motorola-g-and-more
Thank you, CyanogenMod Team, for all your efforts doing wonderful things to this set of devices and unleashing it's power!
And thanks, also, to all the developers and contributors present on XDA Developers Forum, whose are also part of this!
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I'm curious to hear people's thoughts on CM11 on the MotoX., Personally, I enjoy a few features (Active Notifications, Flick to Camera, talking to the phone by saying "OK Google") which I don't believe are supported.
From reading other threads, a lot of people have said "Root and Xposed and GravityBox, and this is the best way to go", as opposed to throwing out the best features of the X for CM11.

DogzOfWar said:
I'm curious to hear people's thoughts on CM11 on the MotoX., Personally, I enjoy a few features (Active Notifications, Flick to Camera, talking to the phone by saying "OK Google") which I don't believe are supported.
From reading other threads, a lot of people have said "Root and Xposed and GravityBox, and this is the best way to go", as opposed to throwing out the best features of the X for CM11.
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Yes, I share my thoughts with you. I came from past-generation devcies which used to work better with custom ROMs. And now I'm using a Moto X, which is awesome by what it is. And those features are really awesome for me. I'm actually using the stock ROM rooted with Xposed and GravityBox, like you mentioned, and I feel complete.
But, I also agree that all development is always welcome. Today we have a great community, that is always talking about this device, and providing information about how to use it better. TODAY we don't need much development at all for Moto X, but someday we may need!
I think the main point in my thread to be seen, may not be the fact of "Moto X is being developed by CM again", but, maybe, the repository sharing with other devices. It means that many devices has hardware so similar that it could be joined into one! And it also may mean that Moto X developers now have help from other devices' developers, because they all are working over "the same hardware".
I don't think we'll have much gain in short term, but in a long term it may mean something! Not only for Moto X, but for many other Motorola devices!

Once I discovered gravity box I no longer see why you would install cm on a nexus or near - stock device. I ran cm forever on my samsung phones but I can't justify running it on my x. Now that I know about gravity box I'll be going back to stock on my nexus 7 as well whenever I have time.
I love the project and the contributors do great work. I'll definitely check it out If I end up on a tw or sense device in the future.
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fredamsouza said:
Yes, I share my thoughts with you. I came from past-generation devcies which used to work better with custom ROMs. And now I'm using a Moto X, which is awesome by what it is. And those features are really awesome for me. I'm actually using the stock ROM rooted with Xposed and GravityBox, like you mentioned, and I feel complete.
But, I also agree that all development is always welcome. Today we have a great community, that is always talking about this device, and providing information about how to use it better. TODAY we don't need much development at all for Moto X, but someday we may need!
I think the main point in my thread to be seen, may not be the fact of "Moto X is being developed by CM again", but, maybe, the repository sharing with other devices. It means that many devices has hardware so similar that it could be joined into one! And it also may mean that Moto X developers now have help from other devices' developers, because they all are working over "the same hardware".
I don't think we'll have much gain in short term, but in a long term it may mean something! Not only for Moto X, but for many other Motorola devices!
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Ah you know what? You're exactly right. I'm still in the mindset of how quickly we got the 4.4 update, and wasn't thinking long-term if this becomes an unsupported Lenovo device. Having a merged codeset for other Motorola devices will be great, especially 1 year from now.
Another thought though: I got my phone for $300. I'm having trouble thinking that I'd spend more than that again. I'm hoping that phones like the Moto X and G (along with the Nexus 5) have put enough pressure to keep prices coming down. If they stay low, I'm willing to spend $300 per year to get a new phone, and so I'm not as worried about long-term support dropping.

Restola said:
Once I discovered gravity box I no longer see why you would install cm on a nexus or near - stock device. I ran cm forever on my samsung phones but I can't justify running it on my x. Now that I know about gravity box I'll be going back to stock on my nexus 7 as well whenever I have time.
I love the project and the contributors do great work. I'll definitely check it out If I end up on a tw or sense device in the future.
Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk
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This ^
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...

DogzOfWar said:
I'm curious to hear people's thoughts on CM11 on the MotoX., Personally, I enjoy a few features (Active Notifications, Flick to Camera, talking to the phone by saying "OK Google") which I don't believe are supported.
From reading other threads, a lot of people have said "Root and Xposed and GravityBox, and this is the best way to go", as opposed to throwing out the best features of the X for CM11.
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Gravity Box isn't going to delivered the same performance as CM11 which is very fast on the Moto X. But it's a no go for me since I need touchless control. Some custom roms like AOKP and SlimRoms have Active Display which is better and more features than Moto version, but I'm not sure they will utilize it to use low power on the Moto X.
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eksasol said:
Gravity Box isn't going to delivered the same performance as CM11 which is very fast on the Moto X. But it's a no go for me since I need touchless control. Some custom roms like AOKP and SlimRoms have Active Display which is better and more features than Moto version, but I'm not sure they will utilize it to use low power on the Moto X.
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Anything faster than a stock Moto x, either an X with a rom, or even another phone, will be micro seconds faster. I've played with an N5 that was tweaked for performance and I gotta say....you're talking a very small noticeable difference. Very small.
For me personally now on any further phone purchases, performance won't even be a consideration. The top phones today are frigging fast. And the difference between most of them is too small for me to care. LOL
That's just my take on it anyway. I think phones have pretty well maxed out speed. Now it's time for manufacturers to work on battery life, screens, cameras, etc. Actual noticeable speed differences will step up very slowly now.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...

Not talking benchmarks ....cause we all know benchmarks mean nothing in the for real life....right?
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...

kj2112 said:
Not talking benchmarks ....cause we all know benchmarks mean nothing in the for real life....right?
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
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No it's a noticeable difference, But I used Android since the beginning, some people notice minute changes more than other. I notice big difference between ART and Dalvik.

eksasol said:
No it's a noticeable difference, But I used Android since the beginning, some people notice minute changes more than other. I notice big difference between ART and Dalvik.
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As I said....to me the difference is so small....its not a concern. Life isn't so short I need to compare things in milliseconds. I can spare a fraction of a second here and there.
Overall...to me....fast is fast. Instant is instant. I click any app on my x....its open in an instant. Just like an N5.
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...

NEVER AGAIN. Verizon phones, non mainstream super phones..

Ok, I love my Moto Maxx. I knew I will get limited support, limited developers support, even compared to its less capable cousin Moto X. But I didn't expect this much suffering.
People are trying to unlock bootloader, update, root, and months after months of struggles and hard work from our beloved contributing developers.
For the US Verizon customers, it was the bootload and root, then after months of trying they got it and it was the update they were promised by the end of 2014 which just arrived, then the cycle starts over.
For us, the international Moto Maxx users, we gambled big, the phone is only known in a few countries with no real developer support but it was (as I said before) a SuperPhone. Unlocking bootload and rooting for us wasn't that hard, but here we are waiting and waiting for the lollipop update (I'm still on 4.4.4) and for the work corporate apps I am using I cannot root or use CM sadly.
I hereby declare the Droid franchise developer and power users unfriendly. I would like to extend this to any phone that is not worldwide mainstream. I will think a million times before doing this to myself again, despite the battery and superior user experience.
My company offered to buy me an iphone 6 (lol) or a Samsung galaxy s6 or s6 edge and I said no and jumped through hoops to get approval to use my Moto Maxx. I regret this completely. The first chance I will get, I will revisit this, I might get lucky and get them to get me the new international version of Moto X 2015.
So yes, this is an open letter to Motorola and Verizon. This is a whiny complainy angry thread and you can all express your feelings about this here.
I am keeping an open mind and still giving Motorola another chance. After all they have tried hard to look at our user experience pain points and provide good solutions for it.
So I hope I have learned my lesson. I hope I don't fall for this trap again. Even if this means I lose touchless controls, assist, twist to camera and active display which became part of my daily routine.
What do you guys think? am I over reacting?

Kiwironic said:
Ok, I love my Moto Maxx. I knew I will get limited support, limited developers support, even compared to its less capable cousin Moto X. But I didn't expect this much suffering.
People are trying to unlock bootloader, update, root, and months after months of struggles and hard work from our beloved contributing developers.
For the US Verizon customers, it was the bootload and root, then after months of trying they got it and it was the update they were promised by the end of 2014 which just arrived, then the cycle starts over.
For us, the international Moto Maxx users, we gambled big, the phone is only known in a few countries with no real developer support but it was (as I said before) a SuperPhone. Unlocking bootload and rooting for us wasn't that hard, but here we are waiting and waiting for the lollipop update (I'm still on 4.4.4) and for the work corporate apps I am using I cannot root or use CM sadly.
I hereby declare the Droid franchise developer and power users unfriendly. I would like to extend this to any phone that is not worldwide mainstream. I will think a million times before doing this to myself again, despite the battery and superior user experience.
My company offered to buy me an iphone 6 (lol) or a Samsung galaxy s6 or s6 edge and I said no and jumped through hoops to get approval to use my Moto Maxx. I regret this completely. The first chance I will get, I will revisit this, I might get lucky and get them to get me the new international version of Moto X 2015.
So yes, this is an open letter to Motorola and Verizon. This is a whiny complainy angry thread and you can all express your feelings about this here.
I am keeping an open mind and still giving Motorola another chance. After all they have tried hard to look at our user experience pain points and provide good solutions for it.
So I hope I have learned my lesson. I hope I don't fall for this trap again. Even if this means I lose touchless controls, assist, twist to camera and active display which became part of my daily routine.
What do you guys think? am I over reacting?
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Every variant of this phone can be updated to Lollipop. Seems like your problem is your employer since the Maxx has an unlockable bootloader and CyanogenMod. Yeah the support for these devices has been horrible but oh well.

Cobra04 said:
Every variant of this phone can be updated to Lollipop. Seems like your problem is your employer since the Maxx has an unlockable bootloader and CyanogenMod. Yeah the support for these devices has been horrible but oh well.
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I would have considered CM if it had support for touchless controls, assist, twist to camera and active display. These are important to me, and some of the reason I went for the Moto Maxx. What you are saying is, I should give up most of the features I got this phone for just to get lollipop??? How convenient is that?
Motorola nor Verizon have anything to do with CM, my pain points are not coming from CM but from Motorola.

Kiwironic said:
Ok, I love my Moto Maxx. I knew I will get limited support, limited developers support, even compared to its less capable cousin Moto X. But I didn't expect this much suffering.
People are trying to unlock bootloader, update, root, and months after months of struggles and hard work from our beloved contributing developers.
For the US Verizon customers, it was the bootload and root, then after months of trying they got it and it was the update they were promised by the end of 2014 which just arrived, then the cycle starts over.
For us, the international Moto Maxx users, we gambled big, the phone is only known in a few countries with no real developer support but it was (as I said before) a SuperPhone. Unlocking bootload and rooting for us wasn't that hard, but here we are waiting and waiting for the lollipop update (I'm still on 4.4.4) and for the work corporate apps I am using I cannot root or use CM sadly.
I hereby declare the Droid franchise developer and power users unfriendly. I would like to extend this to any phone that is not worldwide mainstream. I will think a million times before doing this to myself again, despite the battery and superior user experience.
My company offered to buy me an iphone 6 (lol) or a Samsung galaxy s6 or s6 edge and I said no and jumped through hoops to get approval to use my Moto Maxx. I regret this completely. The first chance I will get, I will revisit this, I might get lucky and get them to get me the new international version of Moto X 2015.
So yes, this is an open letter to Motorola and Verizon. This is a whiny complainy angry thread and you can all express your feelings about this here.
I am keeping an open mind and still giving Motorola another chance. After all they have tried hard to look at our user experience pain points and provide good solutions for it.
So I hope I have learned my lesson. I hope I don't fall for this trap again. Even if this means I lose touchless controls, assist, twist to camera and active display which became part of my daily routine.
What do you guys think? am I over reacting?
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You can't really call yourself a power user and gloss over the fact you could have flashed Lollipop many months ago. It doesn't even have to be CM.

I don't get why your phone is still on 4.4.4. I'm running stock 5.0.2 with all the features that you like

Yawn.

I'm not sure why this is a surprise. The DX, released 5 years ago, and the next generations are on the same boat.
IMO, rooting and custom ROMs is not the same as it used to be as Android has taken so many steps forward.
Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk

Moto MAXX XT1225 got stock Lollipop back in March, soon after Moto Turbo XT1225 (same device, same FCC ID) launched with Lollipop in India. 5.0.2.
I ran stock 5.0.2 for months on my Puerto Rico Moto Maxx, and on my Mexico Moto Maxx.
It was the Droid Turbo XT1254 stuck on 4.4.4, not the XT1225.
The stock 5.0.2 files are in the development section, if you want to flash them. For Brazil, Mexico and India.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3063470
Claro in Puerto Rico (and I think Chile, also) had a falling out with Motorola, so the Puerto Rico/Chile Moto Maxx never got an official OTA to 5.0.2. But if you have Puerto Rico XT1225, you just flash your phone to another country and get 5.0.2. Or flash the 5.0.2 image of your choice (Brazil, Mexico, India).
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Stock 5.1 is coming for the XT1225, but custom ROM 5.1.1 has been here for months. There's two custom 5.1.1 ROMs available -- one is AOSP, not CM based. So development support is here.
AOSP:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3108708
CM 12.1:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3060089
We also have cool boot logos and animations like these:
BOOT ANIMATION
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3141711
BOOT LOGO
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3065141
(Many more, just an example of each.)
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However, you say you can't run custom ROM, that you have to stay stock. Therefore, why have you not flashed stock 5.0.2 which has been available for the XT1225 since March?

I care less about CM for Quark but i am surprised to see that nobody released a stock based rom for our phones yet.

Semseddin said:
I care less about CM for Quark but i am surprised to see that nobody released a stock based rom for our phones yet.
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There's an AOSP one. I know, not exactly the same as "stock". But we do have two completely different custom 5.1.1 ROMs.
You can also run stock 5.0.2, root and run xposed/Gravity Box and get as few or as many custom ROM features you want... While remaining on stock.

I would be very fine if someone provided us a custom rom based on stock brazil build of maxx, just something like computerfreak provided to Turbo users. It is funny that what i wanted for my phone is already available for the bootloader locked variant and missing from our bootloader free variant. This very well explains the popularity of the device within people is the key to its development potencial.
edit : even opened a request thread for it but nobody gave a f. , even our maxx users, leave alone the uninterested developers.
i think we should collect 450$ and buy juacos's maxx to a developer who would be happily developing good stuff for us.

i totally agree, last year i got the droid maxx and it had little development but i thought that the moto maxx being released worldwide would have a lot of support, i really love motorola, but i dont like this, its like having a lamborgini that only you can drive, theres no much development, i regret trading my oneplus one, it even had better battery than my moto maxx, and worse camera but under same usage my battery lasted more than moto maxx and the speakers were louder, this year i think i will buy a moto x or the new oneplus two, its real sad to write this but its the truth. no more moto maxx or droid maxx for me.

So I change to Mexican rom to be able to get 5.0.2 and then what? I don't force upgrades unless I see a clear upgrade path. If then Motorola releases an 5.1 OTA upgrade from 4.4.4 for PR and not Mexico, then I am screwed. I don't take the downgrading risk.
Being a power user doesn't mean I go foolishly and pick the only upgrade path and not worry about the future. I don't gamble with my devices.
Anyway, yesterday Motorola has announced 5.0.2 for PR among many other versions. I will post the updates in this thread
International Moto Maxx 5.1 official update (Non Droid Turbo)

Kiwironic said:
So I change to Mexican rom to be able to get 5.0.2 and then what? I don't force upgrades unless I see a clear upgrade path. If then Motorola releases an 5.1 OTA upgrade from 4.4.4 for PR and not Mexico, then I am screwed. I don't take the downgrading risk.
Being a power user doesn't mean I go foolishly and pick the only upgrade path and not worry about the future. I don't gamble with my devices.
Anyway, yesterday Motorola has announced 5.0.2 for PR among many other versions. I will post the updates in this thread
International Moto Maxx 5.1 official update (Non Droid Turbo)
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Power users and developers absolutely gamble with their devices. What it really comes down to is not about being power user nor developer friendly, but instead you want frequent and fast updates. The only device that will give you that is a Nexus and at this time you can have that on Verizon too.
Your stance defies everything an unlocked bootloader stands for.

Kiwironic said:
So I change to Mexican rom to be able to get 5.0.2 and then what? I don't force upgrades unless I see a clear upgrade path. If then Motorola releases an 5.1 OTA upgrade from 4.4.4 for PR and not Mexico, then I am screwed. I don't take the downgrading risk.
Being a power user doesn't mean I go foolishly and pick the only upgrade path and not worry about the future. I don't gamble with my devices.
Anyway, yesterday Motorola has announced 5.0.2 for PR among many other versions. I will post the updates in this thread
International Moto Maxx 5.1 official update (Non Droid Turbo)
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As Mexico, Brazil and India factory unlocked phones got 5.0.2 first, I imagine they will get 5.1 first.
Under no scenario does Claro Puerto Rico phones get 5.1 and factory unlocked XT1225 (Mexico, Brazil, India) does not.
You say Motorola has just announced 5.0.2 for Puerto Rico Claro. Well, this is mid July. Factory unlocked has had it since March, and will soon get 5.1 stock.
You sound a little silly saying if you flash the XT1225 to another country image or another Android version, you can't flash back if you want. Many people have flashed to 5.0.2 to custom ROM 5.1 and back to 4.4.4 on the XT 1225. One guy -- @Fulbring -- said he's done it at least 5 times... See this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=61498706
Many flashed to India, then to Brazil, then to Mexico to see difference (if any) in performance. You can also downgrade back to 4.4.4.
I flashed my Puerto Rico Moto Maxx 4.4.4 to India 5.0.2 and then to CM 12.1 Lollipop 5.1. I could easily flash it back to Claro Puerto Rico 4.4.4, if I wanted.
There's instructions. You just have to read. @Jaocagomez wrote an excellent thread about all this. See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3074724
The key is having an unlocked bootloader. Where people have gotten into trouble is trying to flash update with locked bootloader.

I guess you guys are really happy with what you got. I expressed my opinion and not going to change it to please you.
I think Motorola can do better than this, and I think we deserve better than this. I will leave you guys to give me more lessons about how to be a power user.

Kiwironic said:
I guess you guys are really happy with what you got. I expressed my opinion and not going to change it to please you.
I think Motorola can do better than this, and I think we deserve better than this. I will leave you guys to give me more lessons about how to be a power user.
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I'm not disagreeing that Motorola dropped the ball on the XT1225 with a narrow release, instead of a world wide release that would have included Europe, all of Asia, and Canada. It is a super phone, and Motorola made people jump through hoops to get it.
It should have been as widely released as the Moto X, or even better this is the phone Motorola should have released as the Moto X.
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But still running 4.4.4 on the XT1225 is your fault, not Motorola. This phone -- the XT1225 -- has had stock 5.0.2 since March on all factory unlocked phones and many Brazil and Mexico carriers and you refuse to flash it on your XT1225.
There's clear instructions on how to do it. Instead you are waiting for a specific carrier OTA, when you do not need to do so.
The XT1225 is the same device across all regions, all countries. The India Moto Turbo XT1225 IDENTICAL in every way to the Latin America Moto Maxx XT2225.
Many, many people in these threads have upgraded, downgraded 4.4.4 to 5.02 and back again, flashed images from different countries, to prove it's not hard -- since our bootloader can be unlocked. The Droid Turbo XT1254 owners WISH they had our advantage!

The only reason I did not change region as I mentioned before is to be sure about a good upgrade path. However, since all updates indicates that BR has the highest chance for 5.1 update, then I have just flashed stock BR. People report that they are able to upgrade then downgrade, while others report bricked on downgrade. A smart user knows that gpt doesn't like being downgraded, and so I will not try this path.
I don't want just to update to lollipop, first of all I do not want to lose themoto features I already have, flashing custom or CM will not help, as it doesn't support the stock moto features. 5.0.2 is buggy and less secure and I do not want to flash it unless I have evidence 5.1 is around the corner. (even before having corporate apps)
Here I am now with BR stock, OTA updates are not available, I think I will have to flash the OTA manually. Let's see how that goes.
Now, since I am being accused of being "unreasonable", the question here is, are you satisfied with how Motorola is handling the device??? You can answer this question (at least to yourself) or you can just blame things on me and lecture me on how to be a power user because you know all about it
Up to you.
Thanks to all of you who objectively expressed your opinion without the bullying attitude some adopt.

I've had just about every Samsung phone since the galaxy S2 and note 1. I've also had the old razor maxx by Motorola and it was horrible. I have the droid turbo un rooted and I have to say it's been the best phone I've ever had. It's fast, great battery, awesome features. I don't care to root anymore because I personally don't see an advantage to it. Please don't argue with me, it's just my point of view for me. I love LP so far. And since the camera update this phone to me is flawless. I think you may be over reacting a bit OP.

@MaxX folks around the world, since we didn't pay for root or bl unlock, maybe we could collect some money and donate a mint condition moto maxx device to a developer who would develop rom / kernel support for his & our devices.. We could have had the faux123 kernel, imagine that with 3900mah battery.

Hypothetical Question: Droid Turbo 2 and Moto X Force

I have a hypothetical question, maybe this question has been asked already for another phone but:
Is it possible to flash all the contents on a moto X force onto a Turbo 2? For example, is it possible to essentially clone a Moto X Force into the body of a turbo 2.
I am assuming root may be needed but that is another matter.

Since they are identical I would say yes. I remember topsnake ported a stock kk build from the moto x 2013 for our maxx and you used rsd to flash it. Those phones were almost identical almost. The force and turbo 2 are identical from what I have read.
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i had this same theory for the original turbo and the us cdma Moto Maxx. (xt1254 and xt1250 respectively). doesnt work because of checks. maybe those models are different. fxz fails bc bootloader checks model prior to flash. hopefully, those models are not as locked down.

Yeah they would have to be ported but it is possible. But no you can't just flash it.
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its possible but not now, if droid turbo 2 had unlocked bootloader you could flash the moto x force firmware, but still cellular wont work.
so, not useful.
Debloating the stock rom should be easier but you still have no root.

Thanks! It was just a hypothetical question that I thought about after reading that the two phones are nearly identical.. and the differences between the two are pretty much superficial. Looking forward to buying the moto x force
The cellular would probably work for me since I am living in Canada.
Jaocagomez said:
its possible but not now, if droid turbo 2 had unlocked bootloader you could flash the moto x force firmware, but still cellular wont work.
so, not useful.
Debloating the stock rom should be easier but you still have no root.
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Shadowz619 said:
Thanks! It was just a hypothetical question that I thought about after reading that the two phones are nearly identical.. and the differences between the two are pretty much superficial. Looking forward to buying the moto x force
The cellular would probably work for me since I am living in Canada.
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Why not just buy from @Jaocagomez.
Save yourself all these work.

bballengphd said:
Why not just buy from @Jaocagomez.
Save yourself all these work.
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i am just transferring the $$ to paypal. it takes a week

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ROMS?

Is anyone actively developing for the Turbo 2? I have the Moto X Pure now and just ordered the Turbo 2, but it looks like there aren't any ROMS available. Just trying to figure out if I should return the Turbo 2 when it arrives.
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Only this ROM is currently being developed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo-2/development/rom-cm-12-1-kinzie-t3319189
The developers have said that they don't have much time at the moment..

If you want to Root and ROM you bought the wrong phone.
You didn't think to check that out before you bought it?

Good ROMS are only available for old hardware. You just can't have it all! LOL

bendrum30 said:
Is anyone actively developing for the Turbo 2? I have the Moto X Pure now and just ordered the Turbo 2, but it looks like there aren't any ROMS available. Just trying to figure out if I should return the Turbo 2 when it arrives.
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Why would anyone build a rom for a locked phone it could never be used on.

those on x force would be disappointed.
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I am looking forward to something like CM13 for x force sometime in the future hopefully moto actions active display etc can be implemented properly.
Long time CM user i have flashed CM on most of my android phones through the years this one shouldnt be any different

Android nougat?

Is the droid turbo 2 planned to have Android 7 in the future ?

Nothing planned that any of us mortals knows. Time will tell.
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http://www.ubergizmo.com/2016/08/motorola-fastest-with-android-updates/

Is not poss

Here's a link to an Android Central article posted today. Not looking good for our T2s so far. Scroll down to the Motorola section.
http://m.androidcentral.com/will-my-phone-get-updated-android-nougat
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karlmf said:
Here's a link to an Android Central article posted today. Not looking good for our T2s so far. Scroll down to the Motorola section.
http://m.androidcentral.com/will-my-phone-get-updated-android-nougat
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X Play and Style are released before X Force/Turbo 2, so doesn't make sense to update older devices and left newer and last year flagships behind. But corporate logic is sometimes strange
Anyway, I'm pretty sure Force and with long Velay, Turbo 2 will get update.

I ask to Moto via twitter if Moto x Force will be updated to N:
twitter.com/Moto_Support/status/768395675210018816

It appears the Droid Turbo 2 is indeed on Moto's list of phones to update to 7.0.
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2016/10/n-is-for-nougat-android-70-is-coming-to.html

No Moto X Force on the list (just kidding )

yes it is:
http://www.androidcentral.com/these-are-motorola-phones-will-be-updated-android-70-nougat

What's all the bedwetting about Nougat about? I have it on my 6P and from a user experience point of view the only difference from MM is the degraded battery life. Yup, you read that right, so far battery life on Nougat is worse than MM. Once Xposed is released that will likely change because Amplify and Greenify will work in their full glory, but as of today there is little/no reason to upgrade to Nougat, other than to experience the disappointment and then revert back to MM. For my money I will take root on the T2 over Nougat any time of day. At least then we get custom Kernel and the ability to make the already great battery life truly insane, which frankly is one of the few reasons to own a T2 anyway, at least IMO.