Cheers!
CyanogenMod Team just announced a change in it's repository for the latest Motorola devices: they use the same base repository.
What does it means? We have tons more of CM11 contributors for the Moto X!
As you can check in the article below, there are various kinds of Moto devices that will be sharing the same repository.
For you, whom checked lots of times the http://download.cyanogenmod.org/ for a new nightly and there was nothing, only some old test builds, there is a new nightly build for testing under the codename moto_msm8960dt. And you can check the latest changelog in http://www.cmxlog.com/11/moto_msm8960dt/
The link for the article is:
http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/motorola-g-and-more
Thank you, CyanogenMod Team, for all your efforts doing wonderful things to this set of devices and unleashing it's power!
And thanks, also, to all the developers and contributors present on XDA Developers Forum, whose are also part of this!
fredamsouza said:
Cheers!
CyanogenMod Team just announced a change in it's repository for the latest Motorola devices: they use the same base repository.
What does it means? We have tons more of CM11 contributors for the Moto X!
As you can check in the article below, there are various kinds of Moto devices that will be sharing the same repository.
For you, whom checked lots of times the http://download.cyanogenmod.org/ for a new nightly and there was nothing, only some old test builds, there is a new nightly build for testing under the codename moto_msm8960dt. And you can check the latest changelog in http://www.cmxlog.com/11/moto_msm8960dt/
The link for the article is:
http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/motorola-g-and-more
Thank you, CyanogenMod Team, for all your efforts doing wonderful things to this set of devices and unleashing it's power!
And thanks, also, to all the developers and contributors present on XDA Developers Forum, whose are also part of this!
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I'm curious to hear people's thoughts on CM11 on the MotoX., Personally, I enjoy a few features (Active Notifications, Flick to Camera, talking to the phone by saying "OK Google") which I don't believe are supported.
From reading other threads, a lot of people have said "Root and Xposed and GravityBox, and this is the best way to go", as opposed to throwing out the best features of the X for CM11.
DogzOfWar said:
I'm curious to hear people's thoughts on CM11 on the MotoX., Personally, I enjoy a few features (Active Notifications, Flick to Camera, talking to the phone by saying "OK Google") which I don't believe are supported.
From reading other threads, a lot of people have said "Root and Xposed and GravityBox, and this is the best way to go", as opposed to throwing out the best features of the X for CM11.
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Yes, I share my thoughts with you. I came from past-generation devcies which used to work better with custom ROMs. And now I'm using a Moto X, which is awesome by what it is. And those features are really awesome for me. I'm actually using the stock ROM rooted with Xposed and GravityBox, like you mentioned, and I feel complete.
But, I also agree that all development is always welcome. Today we have a great community, that is always talking about this device, and providing information about how to use it better. TODAY we don't need much development at all for Moto X, but someday we may need!
I think the main point in my thread to be seen, may not be the fact of "Moto X is being developed by CM again", but, maybe, the repository sharing with other devices. It means that many devices has hardware so similar that it could be joined into one! And it also may mean that Moto X developers now have help from other devices' developers, because they all are working over "the same hardware".
I don't think we'll have much gain in short term, but in a long term it may mean something! Not only for Moto X, but for many other Motorola devices!
Once I discovered gravity box I no longer see why you would install cm on a nexus or near - stock device. I ran cm forever on my samsung phones but I can't justify running it on my x. Now that I know about gravity box I'll be going back to stock on my nexus 7 as well whenever I have time.
I love the project and the contributors do great work. I'll definitely check it out If I end up on a tw or sense device in the future.
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fredamsouza said:
Yes, I share my thoughts with you. I came from past-generation devcies which used to work better with custom ROMs. And now I'm using a Moto X, which is awesome by what it is. And those features are really awesome for me. I'm actually using the stock ROM rooted with Xposed and GravityBox, like you mentioned, and I feel complete.
But, I also agree that all development is always welcome. Today we have a great community, that is always talking about this device, and providing information about how to use it better. TODAY we don't need much development at all for Moto X, but someday we may need!
I think the main point in my thread to be seen, may not be the fact of "Moto X is being developed by CM again", but, maybe, the repository sharing with other devices. It means that many devices has hardware so similar that it could be joined into one! And it also may mean that Moto X developers now have help from other devices' developers, because they all are working over "the same hardware".
I don't think we'll have much gain in short term, but in a long term it may mean something! Not only for Moto X, but for many other Motorola devices!
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Ah you know what? You're exactly right. I'm still in the mindset of how quickly we got the 4.4 update, and wasn't thinking long-term if this becomes an unsupported Lenovo device. Having a merged codeset for other Motorola devices will be great, especially 1 year from now.
Another thought though: I got my phone for $300. I'm having trouble thinking that I'd spend more than that again. I'm hoping that phones like the Moto X and G (along with the Nexus 5) have put enough pressure to keep prices coming down. If they stay low, I'm willing to spend $300 per year to get a new phone, and so I'm not as worried about long-term support dropping.
Restola said:
Once I discovered gravity box I no longer see why you would install cm on a nexus or near - stock device. I ran cm forever on my samsung phones but I can't justify running it on my x. Now that I know about gravity box I'll be going back to stock on my nexus 7 as well whenever I have time.
I love the project and the contributors do great work. I'll definitely check it out If I end up on a tw or sense device in the future.
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This ^
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DogzOfWar said:
I'm curious to hear people's thoughts on CM11 on the MotoX., Personally, I enjoy a few features (Active Notifications, Flick to Camera, talking to the phone by saying "OK Google") which I don't believe are supported.
From reading other threads, a lot of people have said "Root and Xposed and GravityBox, and this is the best way to go", as opposed to throwing out the best features of the X for CM11.
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Gravity Box isn't going to delivered the same performance as CM11 which is very fast on the Moto X. But it's a no go for me since I need touchless control. Some custom roms like AOKP and SlimRoms have Active Display which is better and more features than Moto version, but I'm not sure they will utilize it to use low power on the Moto X.
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Gravity Box isn't going to delivered the same performance as CM11 which is very fast on the Moto X. But it's a no go for me since I need touchless control. Some custom roms like AOKP and SlimRoms have Active Display which is better and more features than Moto version, but I'm not sure they will utilize it to use low power on the Moto X.
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Anything faster than a stock Moto x, either an X with a rom, or even another phone, will be micro seconds faster. I've played with an N5 that was tweaked for performance and I gotta say....you're talking a very small noticeable difference. Very small.
For me personally now on any further phone purchases, performance won't even be a consideration. The top phones today are frigging fast. And the difference between most of them is too small for me to care. LOL
That's just my take on it anyway. I think phones have pretty well maxed out speed. Now it's time for manufacturers to work on battery life, screens, cameras, etc. Actual noticeable speed differences will step up very slowly now.
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Not talking benchmarks ....cause we all know benchmarks mean nothing in the for real life....right?
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Not talking benchmarks ....cause we all know benchmarks mean nothing in the for real life....right?
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No it's a noticeable difference, But I used Android since the beginning, some people notice minute changes more than other. I notice big difference between ART and Dalvik.
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No it's a noticeable difference, But I used Android since the beginning, some people notice minute changes more than other. I notice big difference between ART and Dalvik.
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As I said....to me the difference is so small....its not a concern. Life isn't so short I need to compare things in milliseconds. I can spare a fraction of a second here and there.
Overall...to me....fast is fast. Instant is instant. I click any app on my x....its open in an instant. Just like an N5.
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I'm trying to decide between the G2 and Note 3. Obviously both have their plus and minus points but what will sway it for me is the dev action with vanilla ROMs.
I know it's early days for the G2, and N3 isn't even out yet, but I'd like opinions on whether G2 is gonna get much love in this respect? Did the LG Optimus G Pro get much? Also any other factors preventing this, such as locked bootloaders, etc. I will be looking at getting the UK version.
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A super alpha (more proof of concept) cm10.1 just went up today.
Wow great news to hear there is a CM build for this already, even if it is a really buggy early alpha right now. It will get better.
I think that if the Nexus 5 is in fact what we have been seeing the past few days in the FCC papers then the G2 will also get some great AOSP love since the hardware itself is near identical, the physical form factor is what is changed.
setspeed said:
I'm trying to decide between the G2 and Note 3. Obviously both have their plus and minus points but what will sway it for me is the dev action with vanilla ROMs.
I know it's early days for the G2, and N3 isn't even out yet, but I'd like opinions on whether G2 is gonna get much love in this respect? Did the LG Optimus G Pro get much? Also any other factors preventing this, such as locked bootloaders, etc. I will be looking at getting the UK version.
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I don't have enough posts to post in that thread, but I'm on board with this effort. I'll gladly help with getting a fully function CM port running; doing so will also effectively complete the groundwork for a true Nexus-like vanilla AOSP build.
I'm a professional developer who works with desktop C++ and embedded linux, hacked on and rolled my own kernel drivers, etc. My plan is to make this my weekend project and hammer out ABI/proprietary binary issues to get a build of either CM or AOSP fully functional. Odds are good that the release of the N5 will make this process substantially easier as it will share a very similar hardware platform and include binaries linked against the latest kernels for KitKat.
I am excite.
I had been running Carbon ROM on my GNex and loved the AOSPness of it, but have to admit, I kinda enjoy some of the LG stuff. Would love LG + AOSP rom including things like tap-tap and the camera (although I miss Photosphere)
AOSP ROMS!!
friguy3 said:
I had been running Carbon ROM on my GNex and loved the AOSPness of it, but have to admit, I kinda enjoy some of the LG stuff. Would love LG + AOSP rom including things like tap-tap and the camera (although I miss Photosphere)
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Man, I would love some AOSP ROMs for this phone. I agree that the knock-knock on/off is a nice feature, but I need vanilla Android. This LG skin is just too much for me!
Bring on the AOSP guys!
romeyjdogg said:
Man, I would love some AOSP ROMs for this phone. I agree that the knock-knock on/off is a nice feature, but I need vanilla Android. This LG skin is just too much for me!
Bring on the AOSP guys!
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You just have to wait patiently. Barely 2 weeks ago CM10.2 went up for the G Pro finally, and since then, you simply have to look in the Original Devleopment forum to see what has happened. Literally, a dozen AOSP 4.2 and 4.3 ROMs popped up, all perfectly functional.
Just wait and contribute all you can and we'll all see AOSP soon.
I'm really looking into the g2 being my next device. However..... If it can't have a fully functional PACman ROM ported over, I'm out then.
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I will have to learn to progam now lol
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A super alpha (more proof of concept) cm10.1 just went up today.
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Where? I would download it just to play around lol.
If you want to help, please vote
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/84400-request-motorola-moto-g/
Voted yes. We have a pretty good chance of getting official cm support, right? I'm sure this device will be really popular due to its quality and most importantly it's price.
me too
Voted ?
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Who knows what CM is planning for this device, but at least one person (myself) does plan on working on omni for it.
More is better
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voted ^_^ :fingers-crossed: wish to see some action soon!
We have already got a team of great developers currently working on it, myself included.
Read http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/72611-can-i-get-cyanogenmod-on-my-device/
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Read http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/72611-can-i-get-cyanogenmod-on-my-device/
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Haha that's a Banana republic....Nobody wants to support my galaxy chat
But I guess moto g is not samsung's That makes it special
I feel that the only reason Samsung release so many similar yet multiple devices is to stop developers to focus on them...that way we have to buy new devices
Mayb out of context but my pentium dual core pc with a cheap graphic card and cheap extra ram works pretty nicely with windows 8
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The Moto G will get done if a few developers decide to do so. The best thing is to have an unofficial port first of all then polish it up so it doesn't rely on ugly hacks and a fully functional rom can be built using the CyanogenMod repo. Then it can be submitted to the CyanogenMod team for evaluation. If it passes then it could be official.
So developers, let's be having you!
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Who knows what CM is planning for this device, but at least one person (myself) does plan on working on omni for it.
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I'm looking forward to omni more than cm tbh. I don't like the direction CM is going, they have changed a lot recently. It took them so long just to get a stable 4.3.
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pisherthefisher said:
I'm looking forward to omni more than cm tbh. I don't like the direction CM is going, they have changed a lot recently. It took them so long just to get a stable 4.3.
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Yep, Omni looks very promising. Saying this as a long-time CM fan.
Important thing is that we can see a couple of first-class devs flocking here.
I'd rather have OmniROM but the more the merrier.
Voted as well, i'm getting a G next week so Cyanogen support is welcome even if i won't flash it others will.
Cyanogenmod, my what a terrible, terrible direction you have gone. Talk about fragmentation, most devices are lagging behind stock updates? What happened to latest and greatest before the official updates?
Im so butthurt
I think they have just bit off more than they can chew. By constantly adding devices, it seems the quality is going down dramatically and it is harder to keep all the devices up to date.
You think you have it bad? Just imagine how the people that wasted $600 dollars on the cyanogenmod version of the Oppo N1 feel. $600 for a phone that was suppose to be supported by cm and receive updates in a timely fashion, which is still stuck on 10.2 jellybean for its last stable release. And these guys claim they're going to be able to update the one plus one for two years? Ha, we'll see.
If any of you actually read the cm blog you'd know the reason.
http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/cyanogenmod-11-0-m6-release
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dethrat said:
If any of you actually read the cm blog you'd know the reason.
http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/cyanogenmod-11-0-m6-release
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That doesn't explain what's been stated here. Right or wrong, people here are saying dev is slow and buggy, and sometimes it doesn't exist. That's the case of Moto G CM11. Never saw a CM build so buggy after 6 months of developement.
Is Cyanogen obliged to provide us with fast, stable and beautiful builds? Of course not.
Is it true that when Cyanogen was "mod" and not "Inc" things where much better for the open source community, since they are now too busy keeping up with their first phone (retailing of the OnePlus One has been delayed twice and wasn't about hardware, thought)? I think the answer is yes.
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fermasia said:
That doesn't explain what's been stated here. Right or wrong, people here are saying dev is slow and buggy, and sometimes it doesn't exist. That's the case of Moto G CM11. Never saw a CM build so buggy after 6 months of developement.
Is Cyanogen obliged to provide us with fast, stable and beautiful builds? Of course not.
Is it true that when Cyanogen was "mod" and not "Inc" things where much better for the open source community, since they are now too busy keeping up with their first phone (retailing of the OnePlus One has been delayed twice and wasn't about hardware, thought)? I think the answer is yes.
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I'm not disagreeing with you. The People who are expecting builds labeled as stable are gonna be waiting for a long time.
A lot of the opens source community dispersed, moved to omnirom and/or other projects.
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dethrat said:
I'm not disagreeing with you. The People who are expecting builds labeled as stable are gonna be waiting for a long time.
A lot of the opens source community dispersed, moved to omnirom and/or other projects.
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Omnirom guys began as they moved away from the project when it became a profit company, that's true. But that's not the problem, actually, some guys from other pojects left open source and joined Cyanogen Inc. The problem is much more simple: things work differently when your goal is to make money. It's not a felony, course, but it's a "sin" in terms of opensource spirit, and now we are seen it's tangible results.
CM has lost it's soul, it's original purpose, so now things are being rushed and pushed, and the guys working on it's non-profitable branches, even when they are doing their best (and I do thank them for sharing they work with us in exchange of nothing... except for the private information that now CM collects from every user), it's not the same as it was before. Put the label you want on their builds... stable, M1, XGKT512, it doesn't matter, the result is slow, buggy and unstable, if you compare to what CM was until it's 10.2 version.
Maybe it would be great do have info about known issues updated: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Known_Issues_page_for_falcon?setlang=en-gb. And less disappointment would arise.
You do realize that updates depend on the device maintainer, and if there isn't any then we won't get updates?
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Omnirom guys began as they moved away from the project when it became a profit company, that's true. But that's not the problem, actually, some guys from other pojects left open source and joined Cyanogen Inc. The problem is much more simple: things work differently when your goal is to make money. It's not a felony, course, but it's a "sin" in terms of opensource spirit, and now we are seen it's tangible results.
CM has lost it's soul, it's original purpose, so now things are being rushed and pushed, and the guys working on it's non-profitable branches, even when they are doing their best (and I do thank them for sharing they work with us in exchange of nothing... except for the private information that now CM collects from every user), it's not the same as it was before. Put the label you want on their builds... stable, M1, XGKT512, it doesn't matter, the result is slow, buggy and unstable, if you compare to what CM was until it's 10.2 version.
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That's the reason why when I got my current XT1033, I don't bothered to root and install custom roms! With Motorola still timely updating their software, that's no reason for custom roms. My previous phone Sony X8, I rooted and install various CM based roms, In my opinion, new functions/features were introduced for the sake of adding a long list of features in that roms without considering the stability and functionality issue, while at the same time more and more bugs were introduced. Many times the phone just don't worked when its matter most! Real frustrated but you can't complain because all are worked on their own freewill basis.
I have installed CM 10.2.1 on two Nooks because the Nook software, based on 4.0.4, is crap, IMO. I also have a 2013 Nexus 7 and my wife has a Moto X. I wouldn't dream of putting CM on either of those devices. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. YMMV.
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Here we are with our Moto X Style/Pure Edition way after it has been released. We have been given no confirmation by cyanogen that it will ever officialy support our phones. Their is a semi-working version of cyanogen if you build it yourself... What a chicks me is that the Moto e and g 2015 both run cyanogen 13 (albeit unofficial) and officially support cyanogen 12.1 so I'm just kinda curious if anyone else is slightly annoyed?
No, it'll be here when its ready.
I'm happy enough using Xposed.
AICP is pretty sweet.
Here's a good way to stop development dead in its tracks...
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AICP is pretty sweet.
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Yeah, AICP is CM based so it has all CM features.
In addition, CM will be officially supported for this device when all the tiny bugs we have left are fixed. (Mainly the Sprint bugs)
Take your time Hash. I'd rather it take longer and be right than quick and super buggy.
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No, it doesn't slightly annoy me. But you making a thread like this may slightly annoy those who are in the process of developing an official CM build. Want one quicker? Learn Java, Android development, and help them out!
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Here we are with our Moto X Style/Pure Edition way after it has been released. We have been given no confirmation by cyanogen that it will ever officialy support our phones. Their is a semi-working version of cyanogen if you build it yourself... What a chicks me is that the Moto e and g 2015 both run cyanogen 13 (albeit unofficial) and officially support cyanogen 12.1 so I'm just kinda curious if anyone else is slightly annoyed?
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If you want a job doing, do it yourself. Otherwise, buy a phone that is already supported, or sit tight and wait in the hope that it will get CM (quite likely it will arrive sooner or later).
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Dear devs. Please ignore this thread... Most of us are grateful.
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Really? What a waste of a thread.
Want it here and now? Go do it yourself. Otherwise, wait in line just like everyone else.
no. cyanogenmod is boring. i'd rather flash another.
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Yeah, AICP is CM based so it has all CM features.
In addition, CM will be officially supported for this device when all the tiny bugs we have left are fixed. (Mainly the Sprint bugs)
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Sorry for the bother hash i was being an arse
One word WOW
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I second that. Wow. -_-
WelcomeToTheSkye said:
Here we are with our Moto X Style/Pure Edition way after it has been released. We have been given no confirmation by cyanogen that it will ever officialy support our phones. Their is a semi-working version of cyanogen if you build it yourself... What a chicks me is that the Moto e and g 2015 both run cyanogen 13 (albeit unofficial) and officially support cyanogen 12.1 so I'm just kinda curious if anyone else is slightly annoyed?
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Just another noob. Gots to get his post count up. I really suggest you rethink your current position. Only 3 posts and this is what you come up with. WTF is wrong with people like you. Why must there always be that one post that pisses me off and I am not a Dev. I support what there doing with donations when I can. I suggest you do the same, then sit back and watch the magic happen. Patience is a virtue. Thanks devs for all your hard work the majority of us appreciate it.
To answer your question, no. Not even slightly annoyed...
The only thing annoying is the OP's impatience. How completely ungrateful.
And .... 3,2,1 closed.
Going nowhere, fast.
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I have noticed there isn't a lot of development for our phone. Is the reason for this there is not a lot of devs interested in this phone, or are they all just waiting for MM to come out?
Don't get me wrong, I am thankful for the devs we do have, I guess I am just used to a larger selection of roms/kernels/apps.
I can't really say there is a lack of development per se. But then again I am coming from a g920a and the xda forums for that device are like a bad joke. But seriously we have Marshmallow already thanks to hackers; also a CM development thread and a debloated stock rom. We have a few kernels and I think development will hopefully heat up even further when stock marshmallow becomes official and also official CM support comes around, seeing as the majority of custom roms have at least some part of CM in them these days. I for one really hope a version of AOSPA gets released for this device eventually but then that will probably take a while as they haven't even started to work on MM yet it looks like. But really this phone is already amazing. I am running Marshmallow and doze along with amplify has dramatically improved the only problem I was having; the battery. I left my phone over night for a bit over 10 hours last night and it only lost 1%! And that was with WIFI bluetooth and location still running. I freaking love this phone, and I am confident that the development activity is still young and just getting started.
I'd imagine it'll pick up a decent amount more once we get MM. I doubt you'd see anything new before then...not really much of a point to spend a lot of time on anything just to start over in a week or two.
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I have noticed there isn't a lot of development for our phone. Is the reason for this there is not a lot of devs interested in this phone, or are they all just waiting for MM to come out?
Don't get me wrong, I am thankful for the devs we do have, I guess I am just used to a larger selection of roms/kernels/apps.
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I agree with your concern, however, I know once mm comes it will pick up. The 6p being released didn't help things I'm sure. This is a great bootloader unlockable phone and I am along for the ride whatever it entails. That 6p isn't enough to make me jump yet. Still I keep checking stock in case I change my mind. Lol
I agree about this phone being amazing. I guess I am used to seeing my roms and kernels since I am coming from a nexus 6. I have no doubt there will be more development once MM drops.
Coming from one plus one, development is super slow with MXP. Pretty much all phones I've owned had decent development. All the Samsung devices has more development than MXP. I'm optimistic something great will come out in the future. Just surprised we don't have more developer's on this device.
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I agree, I thought there would be a little more dev, but I am happy with the phone and with the devs we do have. They all do great work.
Well. I already have working versions of CM-based ROMs such as LiquidSmooth. But, MM is what I am waiting for to release them. Plus, the AOSP source tree does not support building for MSM8992 platforms by default i.e. without additional patching for LP. But with MM that is fixed. Once, the blobs for MM are out (for XT1575), development should pick up pace with respect to AOSP-based ROMs as well.