Cyanogenmod, my what a terrible, terrible direction you have gone. Talk about fragmentation, most devices are lagging behind stock updates? What happened to latest and greatest before the official updates?
Im so butthurt
I think they have just bit off more than they can chew. By constantly adding devices, it seems the quality is going down dramatically and it is harder to keep all the devices up to date.
You think you have it bad? Just imagine how the people that wasted $600 dollars on the cyanogenmod version of the Oppo N1 feel. $600 for a phone that was suppose to be supported by cm and receive updates in a timely fashion, which is still stuck on 10.2 jellybean for its last stable release. And these guys claim they're going to be able to update the one plus one for two years? Ha, we'll see.
If any of you actually read the cm blog you'd know the reason.
http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/cyanogenmod-11-0-m6-release
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If any of you actually read the cm blog you'd know the reason.
http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/cyanogenmod-11-0-m6-release
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That doesn't explain what's been stated here. Right or wrong, people here are saying dev is slow and buggy, and sometimes it doesn't exist. That's the case of Moto G CM11. Never saw a CM build so buggy after 6 months of developement.
Is Cyanogen obliged to provide us with fast, stable and beautiful builds? Of course not.
Is it true that when Cyanogen was "mod" and not "Inc" things where much better for the open source community, since they are now too busy keeping up with their first phone (retailing of the OnePlus One has been delayed twice and wasn't about hardware, thought)? I think the answer is yes.
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That doesn't explain what's been stated here. Right or wrong, people here are saying dev is slow and buggy, and sometimes it doesn't exist. That's the case of Moto G CM11. Never saw a CM build so buggy after 6 months of developement.
Is Cyanogen obliged to provide us with fast, stable and beautiful builds? Of course not.
Is it true that when Cyanogen was "mod" and not "Inc" things where much better for the open source community, since they are now too busy keeping up with their first phone (retailing of the OnePlus One has been delayed twice and wasn't about hardware, thought)? I think the answer is yes.
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I'm not disagreeing with you. The People who are expecting builds labeled as stable are gonna be waiting for a long time.
A lot of the opens source community dispersed, moved to omnirom and/or other projects.
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I'm not disagreeing with you. The People who are expecting builds labeled as stable are gonna be waiting for a long time.
A lot of the opens source community dispersed, moved to omnirom and/or other projects.
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Omnirom guys began as they moved away from the project when it became a profit company, that's true. But that's not the problem, actually, some guys from other pojects left open source and joined Cyanogen Inc. The problem is much more simple: things work differently when your goal is to make money. It's not a felony, course, but it's a "sin" in terms of opensource spirit, and now we are seen it's tangible results.
CM has lost it's soul, it's original purpose, so now things are being rushed and pushed, and the guys working on it's non-profitable branches, even when they are doing their best (and I do thank them for sharing they work with us in exchange of nothing... except for the private information that now CM collects from every user), it's not the same as it was before. Put the label you want on their builds... stable, M1, XGKT512, it doesn't matter, the result is slow, buggy and unstable, if you compare to what CM was until it's 10.2 version.
Maybe it would be great do have info about known issues updated: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Known_Issues_page_for_falcon?setlang=en-gb. And less disappointment would arise.
You do realize that updates depend on the device maintainer, and if there isn't any then we won't get updates?
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Omnirom guys began as they moved away from the project when it became a profit company, that's true. But that's not the problem, actually, some guys from other pojects left open source and joined Cyanogen Inc. The problem is much more simple: things work differently when your goal is to make money. It's not a felony, course, but it's a "sin" in terms of opensource spirit, and now we are seen it's tangible results.
CM has lost it's soul, it's original purpose, so now things are being rushed and pushed, and the guys working on it's non-profitable branches, even when they are doing their best (and I do thank them for sharing they work with us in exchange of nothing... except for the private information that now CM collects from every user), it's not the same as it was before. Put the label you want on their builds... stable, M1, XGKT512, it doesn't matter, the result is slow, buggy and unstable, if you compare to what CM was until it's 10.2 version.
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That's the reason why when I got my current XT1033, I don't bothered to root and install custom roms! With Motorola still timely updating their software, that's no reason for custom roms. My previous phone Sony X8, I rooted and install various CM based roms, In my opinion, new functions/features were introduced for the sake of adding a long list of features in that roms without considering the stability and functionality issue, while at the same time more and more bugs were introduced. Many times the phone just don't worked when its matter most! Real frustrated but you can't complain because all are worked on their own freewill basis.
I have installed CM 10.2.1 on two Nooks because the Nook software, based on 4.0.4, is crap, IMO. I also have a 2013 Nexus 7 and my wife has a Moto X. I wouldn't dream of putting CM on either of those devices. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. YMMV.
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Hey i'm Chriss-not an owner of Find 5 but wish i was....
I love Find 5....even it's website lists that it supports XDA,which is like a "Loyal King".
I want to buy it and i 'm trying,i checked out the xda tread and i saw official CM10.1 which really cool but there's nothing else except
AOSP.I mean if you guys can make a some-what stable CM10.1....you guys could easily make more roms like Paranoid,PAC,MIUI would be awesome on 1080p display,and many other roms....more you make better,try out-of-box like firefox os...These things make news and make the device more popular,which brings in more support,donors etc...:good:
So dev who are try hard to fix cm bugs and are stuck build some other roms also ....don't mind the bugs that arise which can be fixed later
I would like to wish the team Best Of Luck! :victory:
Just be patient.
The cm10.1 rom was only released yesterday.:good:
With working and stable CM10.1 and AOSP Roms it's easier to port other Roms that are based on either of them.
I'd much rather have those two up and running in a near perfect state before we get a bunch of people that bricked their phones because they jumped on an alpha of Paranoid Android and they have no clue how to restore them.
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Just be patient.
The cm10.1 rom was only released yesterday.:good:
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Yeah. CM kangs almost never appear until CM is mostly complete for a device, and we didn't release until yesterday.
This device has only had kernel source available for sometime around a month, and isn't exactly widely available. Good development takes time.
FYI, CM went from "developers received the device" to "95% working" in less than two weeks, with the first week of that being research and laying the groundwork for a port. Most of the actual coding was done over the past weekend. Of course, this was only possible due to devices that came before us, like the Xperia Z.
It's amazing how much easier Qualcomms are to work with than Exynos.
Good lord.
Okay, you have two approaches to encourage development chrissmartin.
1) Knock yourself out and build a ROM of your own
2) Donate money to an existing developer who's working on a ROM / kernel... whatever you think is of value to you.
I don't know if you've done either, but short of those two options, please don't be 'that guy'. It's a new device in many respects, as Entropy pointed out. You want a ton of ROM's ASAP...go hop on the Sammy bandwagon.
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Good lord.
Okay, you have two approaches to encourage development chrissmartin.
1) Knock yourself out and build a ROM of your own
2) Donate money to an existing developer who's working on a ROM / kernel... whatever you think is of value to you.
I don't know if you've done either, but short of those two options, please don't be 'that guy'. It's a new device in many respects, as Entropy pointed out. You want a ton of ROM's ASAP...go hop on the Sammy bandwagon.
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Not gonna get that on Exynos BTW.... All of the Exynos4 CM maintainers are barely touching their devices, and so far, not a single person with maintainer experience has expressed interest in the Exynos5-based GS4. (As to Qualcomm-based GS4s - Some CM people are getting them, but myself and the other ex-Teamhacksung guys are going elsewhere.)
Edit: Obviously, other people can pick up the ball and take a crack at the Exynos5 GS4, but so far, I have not encountered anyone with an interest. All of the people with AOSP-on-Exynos experience I've talked to are done with the platform, and expect Exynos5 "Octa" to be even worse than the Exynos4 was. There's always the possibility we'll get a pleasant surprise from Samsung, but I have very little hope given that they completely failed to deliver on their promises made at the Big Android BBQ.
^ very good to know, thanks Entropy!
First of all!
I'm sorry....i thought cm10.1 had been released weeks or months before...so that's why,i asked
Xiaomi themselves have described the Find 5 as " most likely next" and I'd prefer if miui was made by them.
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Xiaomi themselves have described the Find 5 as " most likely next" and I'd prefer if miui was made by them.
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You won't see any discussion of their port here due to their rampant GPL noncompliance.
They're kangers of the worst sort.
I'm sure the ROMs are coming, wait til CM 10.1 is mostly stable, I'm impressed how quickly development is proceeding already.
^^ same. CM came quick! This phone is just barely starting to grab peoples attention. Its a slow start because its not an HTC or a Samsung, or a Sony... or an LG lol. This is their first international phone ever and it's the first time anyone has even heard of OPPO in the mobile world.
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CM10.1 Rocks!
https://plus.google.com/107247846330688142975/posts/8K7jsbFcwPu
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Things are really starting to flow now, can't wait to try out al the current custom roms
Rule one is to not ask for ETF, and perhaps make a donation.
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I just built Jellybeer, but I haven't got my Find 5 yet so can't test it yet
PAC ROM rocks! Working camera now
If you want to help, please vote
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/84400-request-motorola-moto-g/
Voted yes. We have a pretty good chance of getting official cm support, right? I'm sure this device will be really popular due to its quality and most importantly it's price.
me too
Voted ?
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Who knows what CM is planning for this device, but at least one person (myself) does plan on working on omni for it.
More is better
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voted ^_^ :fingers-crossed: wish to see some action soon!
We have already got a team of great developers currently working on it, myself included.
Read http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/72611-can-i-get-cyanogenmod-on-my-device/
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Read http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/72611-can-i-get-cyanogenmod-on-my-device/
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Haha that's a Banana republic....Nobody wants to support my galaxy chat
But I guess moto g is not samsung's That makes it special
I feel that the only reason Samsung release so many similar yet multiple devices is to stop developers to focus on them...that way we have to buy new devices
Mayb out of context but my pentium dual core pc with a cheap graphic card and cheap extra ram works pretty nicely with windows 8
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The Moto G will get done if a few developers decide to do so. The best thing is to have an unofficial port first of all then polish it up so it doesn't rely on ugly hacks and a fully functional rom can be built using the CyanogenMod repo. Then it can be submitted to the CyanogenMod team for evaluation. If it passes then it could be official.
So developers, let's be having you!
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Who knows what CM is planning for this device, but at least one person (myself) does plan on working on omni for it.
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I'm looking forward to omni more than cm tbh. I don't like the direction CM is going, they have changed a lot recently. It took them so long just to get a stable 4.3.
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I'm looking forward to omni more than cm tbh. I don't like the direction CM is going, they have changed a lot recently. It took them so long just to get a stable 4.3.
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Yep, Omni looks very promising. Saying this as a long-time CM fan.
Important thing is that we can see a couple of first-class devs flocking here.
I'd rather have OmniROM but the more the merrier.
Voted as well, i'm getting a G next week so Cyanogen support is welcome even if i won't flash it others will.
well guys i just came up with this news and i have heard this before but i never saw any news today sombody on fb shared this so i am really dissapointed by OnePlus :/ i was thinking to get one plus on and i m trying my best to get an invite but i guess now i have to wait for a official word on it
What do you think guys should they make their own ROM or use CM use the poll .!!
Source: http://www.tech-feed.com/technology/oneplus-abandon-cyanogenmod-coloros/
We still need the confirmation to this rumor, but if it's true, there will always be a CM rom for the OPO! All we need to do is root it and flash it.
A Tech blogging site, that doesn't quote any form of source in their article, or postulate why it might be in a company's best interest to skin their own version of Android, OR do anything other than say, they are working on their own version.... That's high school level rumor mongering. Sure it's possible.... but hey, guess what, it's already a CM compatible phone, who cares if they skin their own version of Android?
theres so many stupid fake rumors coming out of the rumor mill lately. they couldnt abandon cm if they tried. thats what happens when you sign paperwork and cm run the fastboot software and recovery.
there will be 2 years of support from CM for this device, so do not worry ^_^
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there will be 2 years of support from CM for this device, so do not worry ^_^
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Thank you guys well the site does provide a valid Source and this news came a week ago when people in china said that they don't like CM UI so OPPO started making its own UI
Its not 100% and not 100% true as the blog says
Even if they make their own there will still be cm officially. Its likely they may just want their own skin but only provide it as an optional alternative.
This is assuming the unlikely rumor actually turns out true. But assumptions on a rumor aren't reliable so take it lightly.
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Even if they make their own there will still be cm officially. Its likely they may just want their own skin but only provide it as an optional alternative.
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yeah this is what i read but i am a CM fan and getting special treatment from CM is always welcome as the speed of development of CM will be faster for 1+1 as compared to others
I call bs. Color os is about as Chinese as you can get.
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Doesn't bother me. I install Apex launcher and then I like ColorOS. I even install Apex CM11, i hate the stock Android and Trebuchet launchers. ColorOS has some nice features that I miss when running CM.
So long as CM doesn't stop supporting it. It's all good lol
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They already released an AOSP rom available to flash via the Development category on the oneplus forum. The only thing it's missing is the gapps.
Don't believe it!
Oneplus i very highly doubt would switch ROMs so suddenly. And Color OS is getting pretty popular for phones in China it seems, do not lose hope friend!
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They already released an AOSP rom available to flash via the Development category on the oneplus forum. The only thing it's missing is the gapps.
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There's a reason they made the aosp ROM and not someone else, there aokp and paranoidandroid but there's no aosp group. The only way there would be an official aosp ROM would be if oneplus made it. It's based off cm source, oneplus has done no software development for the device. And the fact that gapps is separate actually says a lot. You can't just put on aosp and sell the device. The phone would not be Google certified. It took weeks for them to fall in line with Google's new strict standards.
Shipping ask that cyanogen inc. Works very closely with them. I think Steve klondik technically works for both companies. There's is no way they would ever end there partnership. The whole company is based around it. It's yet another fake rumor like the OnePlus tab and OnePlus two and onewatch. Best just to ignore it.
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The OP twisted topic name of the thread.
OnePlus is dropping ColorOS for their own ROM but international will still have CyanogenMod as the default ROM.
Read more, http://www.cnet.com/news/oneplus-to-drop-color-os-in-china-to-develop-its-own/
I heard a rumor that OnePlus was licensing TouchWiz from Samsung
Seriously, garbage rumors like this get floated all the time to force companies to make statements denying or clarifying the rumor. OnePlus is better off ignoring it.
new rom x oneplus one?
CafeKampuchia said:
I heard a rumor that OnePlus was licensing TouchWiz from Samsung
Seriously, garbage rumors like this get floated all the time to force companies to make statements denying or clarifying the rumor. OnePlus is better off ignoring it.
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Touchwiz people are already tortured by that ****ty UI and if OnePlus adds that then samsung will sue them
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Touchwiz people are already tortured by that ****ty UI and if OnePlus adds that then samsung will sue them
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So will I
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So will I
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I'm very surprised that Samsung have started to officially push out Lollipop to the S5 and OPO has not yet.
Considering the Touchwiz overlay which we all know is heavy and would require loads of work, where as CM12 doesn't have much of a change over stock Lollipop.
I've been using the CM12 nightlies for a few weeks now and they can be used as a daily driver for me, but there are still little bugs that need to be ironed out.
How has Samsung pipped CM to the post? I'm not sure if CM has just been slow or Samsung has picked up it's act.
Patience mate it will come in due course. CM usually take a while to release stable builds. Other devices are still waiting it will come in due course.
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I'm very surprised that Samsung have started to officially push out Lollipop to the S5 and OPO has not yet.
Considering the Touchwiz overlay which we all know is heavy and would require loads of work, where as CM12 doesn't have much of a change over stock Lollipop.
I've been using the CM12 nightlies for a few weeks now and they can be used as a daily driver for me, but there are still little bugs that need to be ironed out.
How has Samsung pipped CM to the post? I'm not sure if CM has just been slow or Samsung has picked up it's act.
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It's not so surprising when u think about the number of developers/programmers in Samsung as a multi-billion company compared to cyanogen. +I think there may have been some deals between Google and Samsung, LG etc so they get the source code sooner before official release. But that's only what think, no evidence backing up this statement.
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I'm very surprised that Samsung have started to officially push out Lollipop to the S5 and OPO has not yet.
Considering the Touchwiz overlay which we all know is heavy and would require loads of work, where as CM12 doesn't have much of a change over stock Lollipop.
I've been using the CM12 nightlies for a few weeks now and they can be used as a daily driver for me, but there are still little bugs that need to be ironed out.
How has Samsung pipped CM to the post? I'm not sure if CM has just been slow or Samsung has picked up it's act.
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How has Samsung beat CM to the chase? Money. Samsung are rolling in cash and they have a ridiculous amount of it to throw at developing the OS for their devices. Don't forget CM is a tiny (miniscule) company. Plus, the major OEM's get early release access to Android releases. You'll get your Lollipop, just be patient.
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I'm very surprised that Samsung have started to officially push out Lollipop to the S5 and OPO has not yet.
Considering the Touchwiz overlay which we all know is heavy and would require loads of work, where as CM12 doesn't have much of a change over stock Lollipop.
I've been using the CM12 nightlies for a few weeks now and they can be used as a daily driver for me, but there are still little bugs that need to be ironed out.
How has Samsung pipped CM to the post? I'm not sure if CM has just been slow or Samsung has picked up it's act.
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Samsung probably got off there ass, they have always received new code from google way in advance of it being released to the public.
When it goes public that's when cm gets it.
Please understand all the variables before doing a shame post
I believe they got the code sooner
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Now shouldn't the One plus and CM get it as soon as other OEMs get it? I mean CM is no more bunch of dev doing this part time. I am still not convinced.
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Now shouldn't the One plus and CM get it as soon as other OEMs get it? I mean CM is no more bunch of dev doing this part time. I am still not convinced.
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Even if they did get it at the same time, CM would still be behind. It's all about money. Think about it, HTC, Samsung, Sony, LG, they all have squillions of dollars and countless employees to sink into their devices. CM? Nope. CM are a tiny (and new) company, with just a fraction of the money and manpower that the big players have. I really don't understand why everyone is so confused about this.
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I really don't understand why everyone is so confused about this.
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Because most consumers have no clue what's going on behind the scenes of these businesses, and ironically this leads them to think they know enough to legitimately criticize them. In America we call them arm-chair quarterbacks. They watch the game on TV the day after it's played completely removed the circumstances of the game, yet somehow they think they know everything and the guy on the field is stupid even though they've never even played the game.
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Even if they did get it at the same time, CM would still be behind. It's all about money. Think about it, HTC, Samsung, Sony, LG, they all have squillions of dollars and countless employees to sink into their devices. CM? Nope. CM are a tiny (and new) company, with just a fraction of the money and manpower that the big players have. I really don't understand why everyone is so confused about this.
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I understand that but the only thing which is kind of icky to me is that CM being the primary OS provider for this phone, should provide the first stable versions for our phone. May be I am not seeing it correctly but looks like everyone gets CM stable releases at the same time. I just got this phone a month so may be I am missing something.
Not complaining or anything, just trying to understand the process.
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Because most consumers have no clue what's going on behind the scenes of these businesses, and ironically this leads them to think they know enough to legitimately criticize them. In America we call them arm-chair quarterbacks. They watch the game on TV the day after it's played completely removed the circumstances of the game, yet somehow they think they know everything and the guy on the field is stupid even though they've never even played the game.
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Not trying to start an argument here. But you do understand that the american football is played for the consumer's money (TV rights, stadium fees, ads etc). So if those arm chair QBs are paying to watch the game, they have a right to complain. If the teams or the players have a problem with it then they can go and play in private where no one will ever say a word.
It is similar situation here. The oneplus strategy was to attract consumers by using CM' OS. So I and others have a right to ask questions. You cannot criticize them and call them names. Go take out your frustration on someone else. You don't like this thread? Don't read it and don't comment on it.
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It is similar situation here.
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You missed the point. Paying to watch something makes nobody an expert or even knowledgeable about the matter. One is free to complain about the phone one bought, but that gives no understanding about what's going on in the offices of OnePlus or CyanogenMod, or the processes involved in the two of them outing a ROM compared to Samsung.
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You missed the point. Paying to watch something makes nobody an expert or even knowledgeable about the matter. One is free to complain about the phone one bought, but that gives no understanding about what's going on in the offices of OnePlus or CyanogenMod, or the processes involved in the two of them outing a ROM compared to Samsung.
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Exactly and that is what being discuss here. Some people like me are not sure about the things which goes in CM/One Plus office and we are confused on why CM can't get it out sooner then other big OEMs. Small company or not, they are getting paid.
No one goes complaining directly to the players or the teams (or companies in this case). America is a free country and people like you are trying to suppress the freedom of speech. I am going to sit here and ask million questions and you cannot stop me. Exactly like I can't stop you from replying to my messages .
If you want to contribute to answering then the question, then please do. If not then please stop creating arguments here.
Cyanogenmod have releases for a boat load of different phones with different hardware, they get the lollipop source as it's released to the public and they're are a very small company. Unlike Samsung, HTC, LG and Sony which have many developers and early access to the android source code so they can develop the next android version with their respective skin on top. If you want to complain about cyanogenmod, feel free to do so just know they're a small niche operating system compared to the big OEM's. But you can take a look at cyanogenmod's Gerrit and see they're working hard on the CM12 branch, that's something you can't see with the big OEM's
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Exactly and that is what being discuss here. Some people like me are not sure about the things which goes in CM/One Plus office and we are confused on why CM can't get it out sooner then other big OEMs. Small company or not, they are getting paid.
No one goes complaining directly to the players or the teams (or companies in this case). America is a free country and people like you are trying to suppress the freedom of speech. I am going to sit here and ask million questions and you cannot stop me. Exactly like I can't stop you from replying to my messages .
If you want to contribute to answering then the question, then please do. If not then please stop creating arguments here.
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So if I don't say what you want to hear, I just stop posting... I get it now. I guess I misunderstood what freedom of speech was before. :silly:
No point.
Why care about a Galaxy Sx getting lollipop before? It sucks anyway...:silly:
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I'm very surprised that Samsung have started to officially push out Lollipop to the S5 and OPO has not yet.
Considering the Touchwiz overlay which we all know is heavy and would require loads of work, where as CM12 doesn't have much of a change over stock Lollipop.
I've been using the CM12 nightlies for a few weeks now and they can be used as a daily driver for me, but there are still little bugs that need to be ironed out.
How has Samsung pipped CM to the post? I'm not sure if CM has just been slow or Samsung has picked up it's act.
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You forgot something, it's only officially available to the S5 in... Poland. Otherwise you still would have to root/ROM the Lollipop update onto the S5 no differently than a CM12 nightly and then it will only work on the international version. For the vast majority of S5 users they won't see an official OTA update for months, well after CM has delivered Lollipop to the OPO. Once it's made available to the US carriers expect massive delays again so they can 'certify' the ROM before pushing it out. If you really think that the extremely limited, country specific, release 'beat' CM to Lollipop you either have never played in the Android world or you have massively misplaced expectations.
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Samsung probably got off there ass, they have always received new code from google way in advance of it being released to the public.
When it goes public that's when cm gets it.
Please understand all the variables before doing a shame post
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Could you please provide a source to show Samsung get the code early?
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You forgot something, it's only officially available to the S5 in... Poland. Otherwise you still would have to root/ROM the Lollipop update onto the S5 no differently than a CM12 nightly and then it will only work on the international version. For the vast majority of S5 users they won't see an official OTA update for months, well after CM has delivered Lollipop to the OPO. Once it's made available to the US carriers expect massive delays again so they can 'certify' the ROM before pushing it out. If you really think that the extremely limited, country specific, release 'beat' CM to Lollipop you either have never played in the Android world or you have massively misplaced expectations.
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So you can root and anyone with a European S5 can get a genuine released Lollipop. At the moment we are flashing a pre nightly version of an aftermarket ROM, not even a nightly, let alone anywhere close to an official CM12S.
Sure Samsung have money and they should need it to adapt TouchWiz, but this is basically a stock Lollipop we are waiting for.
I've yet to see anyone quote a reliable source about Samsung getting the code early, but if the do then that would obviously be a good reason for CM appearing slow.
CM are slow look into previous CM releases go back to when Kit Kat was released, or Jelly Bean etc. CM support a number of devices each with different drivers and such CM access the code once it's released to public as mentioned on many posts here. Now that's CM. If OPO wanted to I assume they could release an AOSP version of Lollipop if they wish to like how they did with Kit Kat. CM won't rush and roll out a semi working CM12S for the sake of it we haven't even got official nightlies yet. We are still within the 90 day promise so there's plenty of time left still.
shure2 said:
So you can root and anyone with a European S5 can get a genuine released Lollipop. At the moment we are flashing a pre nightly version of an aftermarket ROM, not even a nightly, let alone anywhere close to an official CM12S.
Sure Samsung have money and they should need it to adapt TouchWiz, but this is basically a stock Lollipop we are waiting for.
I've yet to see anyone quote a reliable source about Samsung getting the code early, but if the do then that would obviously be a good reason for CM appearing slow.
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It doesn't matter even an iota that it's stock Android that we're waiting for. That doesn't make it any less work to get it working for a device. You should look into exactly what is involved in getting a new version of Android running on any non-Nexus device, because clearly you're under the false impression that it's a sinch to do, which it most definitely is not. This is all about money and resources.
I've got this feeling, after the sad goodbye of dear @pappschumpfl, that development support for this beloved and wonderful device is weaning and slowly but surely disappearing. Checking the development section for other xiaomi devices like redmi note 4 or mi6 you can see a lot more movement, discussion and activity.
Anyway, just makes me sad this feeling and I believe it is not only a feeling... With the coming of Mix 2 it will probably get worse. Or maybe with the Mix getting cheaper it will change for the better in the future? What are your thoughts on this people?
There is of course AICP and those guys work is fantastic! But they are mostly alone right now...
Im pretty sure he meant that its his final Nougat rom, as everyone building roms for any device has now moved on to Oreo, so Im guessing we will see more updates once the Oreo roms have been figured out...
As you can see there are a fair amount of roms for the Mi Mix.......
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=developers&did=2231
Ultraman666 said:
Im pretty sure he meant that its his final Nougat rom, as everyone building roms for any device has now moved on to Oreo, so Im guessing we will see more updates once the Oreo roms have been figured out...
As you can see there are a fair amount of roms for the Mi Mix.......
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=developers&did=2231
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Well none of them are maintaining their builds except for BitO, who's given us Multirom and a fantastic Kernel :victory:
As for Papps he got a Note 8 and I have no idea if he's gona be building an Oreo rom for lithium. He doesn't have to of course.
Anyway, maybe you are right
albertoduqe said:
Well none of them are maintaining their builds except for BitO, who's given us Multirom and a fantastic Kernel :victory:
As for Papps he got a Note 8 and I have no idea if he's gona be building an Oreo rom for lithium. He doesn't have to of course.
Anyway, maybe you are right
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I wouldn't say none of them are maintaining as I'm sure most are working on Oreo
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I think this was inevitable with the Mix being a niche device.
I hope we get Oreo eventually, but at least we have some ROMs that are stable.
Final RR is pretty damn good.
Mix was a high end device, high priced device and now it's an outdated device... basically a standard life for a chinese phone on XDA like this one... exemple is based on large sell device, redmi/mi5/mi6... not the same as ur Mix...
Sadly, i think like u... device will go to trash silently...
Also, around the forums we've seen various devs state that we'll see O
IMO, it would be OK just seeing security patches for what we already have.
I have a Nexus 6P and whilst us enthusiasts want the latest and greatest, honestly there isn't anything worth getting too excited about.
I think it will be maintained for awhile, the sort of people who bought the mix are the ones who like to mess and build ROMs (hoping), only time will tell. Let's face it there is nothing worth buying over this at the moment.
but of course, you can also learn how to build roms, etc.
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but of course, you can also learn how to build roms, etc.
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This is a very good point.
For beginners, here is a step by step for LOS: https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/lithium/build
Its not out dated and won't be for a while yet - it is odd and requires an interest in making roms. I am sure there will be development for the roms, people are so down these days.
Nicolfa said:
Its not out dated and won't be for a while yet - it is odd and requires an interest in making roms. I am sure there will be development for the roms, people are so down these days.
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Couldn't agree more
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Ultraman666 said:
Couldn't agree more
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And like already mentioned, no point building anymore nougat ROMs and no Oreo build's
Oreo will come in time - people really need to learn to be more patient. It has some very good nougat roms already.
Every 15 days aprox you have a new updated build here https://download.lineageos.org/lithium
Lineage OS oficial is running for lithium.
I don't understand the tittle of the post.
Worst comes to worst Lineage will be released for our Mixs. If it comes down to it, I'll start developing a Rom.
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This is a very good point.
For beginners, here is a step by step for LOS: https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/lithium/build
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Doesn't work using the cm-15 branch so far... Or I couldn't make it work anyway. Problem is in Mix sources though, not LOS source...
I think Paps might come back. I went to Note 8 but will be back on a new Mix tomorrow. Missing that beautiful 3 side non existent bezel.
I wrote this OP over two months ago and in this time, luckily Papps hasn't abandoned us completely (thanks!) and BitObsession has been providing awesome work and support, several builds, Multitom and a fantastic kernel (thanks!!!). Also AOSiP came and is being maintained I think, so good enough maybe. The guys behind AICP keep also their work (thanks too!).
What seems still so far away that it seems to me we might not see it is Oreo... Anybody with info on wether the good guys at Lineage are working on Oreo for Lithium??
It's of course ok if dev support stays as it is, and developers do what they want with their devices, but it would surely be nice to see our Mix being upgraded to the latest Android as the flagship it is.
Thanks everybody.