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More roms...come on guys..

Hey i'm Chriss-not an owner of Find 5 but wish i was....
I love Find 5....even it's website lists that it supports XDA,which is like a "Loyal King".
I want to buy it and i 'm trying,i checked out the xda tread and i saw official CM10.1 which really cool but there's nothing else except
AOSP.I mean if you guys can make a some-what stable CM10.1....you guys could easily make more roms like Paranoid,PAC,MIUI would be awesome on 1080p display,and many other roms....more you make better,try out-of-box like firefox os...These things make news and make the device more popular,which brings in more support,donors etc...:good:
So dev who are try hard to fix cm bugs and are stuck build some other roms also ....don't mind the bugs that arise which can be fixed later
I would like to wish the team Best Of Luck! :victory:

Just be patient.
The cm10.1 rom was only released yesterday.:good:

With working and stable CM10.1 and AOSP Roms it's easier to port other Roms that are based on either of them.
I'd much rather have those two up and running in a near perfect state before we get a bunch of people that bricked their phones because they jumped on an alpha of Paranoid Android and they have no clue how to restore them.

Aerys said:
Just be patient.
The cm10.1 rom was only released yesterday.:good:
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Yeah. CM kangs almost never appear until CM is mostly complete for a device, and we didn't release until yesterday.
This device has only had kernel source available for sometime around a month, and isn't exactly widely available. Good development takes time.
FYI, CM went from "developers received the device" to "95% working" in less than two weeks, with the first week of that being research and laying the groundwork for a port. Most of the actual coding was done over the past weekend. Of course, this was only possible due to devices that came before us, like the Xperia Z.
It's amazing how much easier Qualcomms are to work with than Exynos.

Good lord.
Okay, you have two approaches to encourage development chrissmartin.
1) Knock yourself out and build a ROM of your own
2) Donate money to an existing developer who's working on a ROM / kernel... whatever you think is of value to you.
I don't know if you've done either, but short of those two options, please don't be 'that guy'. It's a new device in many respects, as Entropy pointed out. You want a ton of ROM's ASAP...go hop on the Sammy bandwagon.

charlatan01 said:
Good lord.
Okay, you have two approaches to encourage development chrissmartin.
1) Knock yourself out and build a ROM of your own
2) Donate money to an existing developer who's working on a ROM / kernel... whatever you think is of value to you.
I don't know if you've done either, but short of those two options, please don't be 'that guy'. It's a new device in many respects, as Entropy pointed out. You want a ton of ROM's ASAP...go hop on the Sammy bandwagon.
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Not gonna get that on Exynos BTW.... All of the Exynos4 CM maintainers are barely touching their devices, and so far, not a single person with maintainer experience has expressed interest in the Exynos5-based GS4. (As to Qualcomm-based GS4s - Some CM people are getting them, but myself and the other ex-Teamhacksung guys are going elsewhere.)
Edit: Obviously, other people can pick up the ball and take a crack at the Exynos5 GS4, but so far, I have not encountered anyone with an interest. All of the people with AOSP-on-Exynos experience I've talked to are done with the platform, and expect Exynos5 "Octa" to be even worse than the Exynos4 was. There's always the possibility we'll get a pleasant surprise from Samsung, but I have very little hope given that they completely failed to deliver on their promises made at the Big Android BBQ.

^ very good to know, thanks Entropy!

First of all!
I'm sorry....i thought cm10.1 had been released weeks or months before...so that's why,i asked

Xiaomi themselves have described the Find 5 as " most likely next" and I'd prefer if miui was made by them.

Allanitomwesh said:
Xiaomi themselves have described the Find 5 as " most likely next" and I'd prefer if miui was made by them.
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You won't see any discussion of their port here due to their rampant GPL noncompliance.
They're kangers of the worst sort.

I'm sure the ROMs are coming, wait til CM 10.1 is mostly stable, I'm impressed how quickly development is proceeding already.

^^ same. CM came quick! This phone is just barely starting to grab peoples attention. Its a slow start because its not an HTC or a Samsung, or a Sony... or an LG lol. This is their first international phone ever and it's the first time anyone has even heard of OPPO in the mobile world.
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CM10.1 Rocks!

https://plus.google.com/107247846330688142975/posts/8K7jsbFcwPu
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Things are really starting to flow now, can't wait to try out al the current custom roms

Rule one is to not ask for ETF, and perhaps make a donation.
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I just built Jellybeer, but I haven't got my Find 5 yet so can't test it yet

PAC ROM rocks! Working camera now

Just me venting about CM

Cyanogenmod, my what a terrible, terrible direction you have gone. Talk about fragmentation, most devices are lagging behind stock updates? What happened to latest and greatest before the official updates?
Im so butthurt

I think they have just bit off more than they can chew. By constantly adding devices, it seems the quality is going down dramatically and it is harder to keep all the devices up to date.

You think you have it bad? Just imagine how the people that wasted $600 dollars on the cyanogenmod version of the Oppo N1 feel. $600 for a phone that was suppose to be supported by cm and receive updates in a timely fashion, which is still stuck on 10.2 jellybean for its last stable release. And these guys claim they're going to be able to update the one plus one for two years? Ha, we'll see.

If any of you actually read the cm blog you'd know the reason.
http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/cyanogenmod-11-0-m6-release
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dethrat said:
If any of you actually read the cm blog you'd know the reason.
http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/cyanogenmod-11-0-m6-release
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That doesn't explain what's been stated here. Right or wrong, people here are saying dev is slow and buggy, and sometimes it doesn't exist. That's the case of Moto G CM11. Never saw a CM build so buggy after 6 months of developement.
Is Cyanogen obliged to provide us with fast, stable and beautiful builds? Of course not.
Is it true that when Cyanogen was "mod" and not "Inc" things where much better for the open source community, since they are now too busy keeping up with their first phone (retailing of the OnePlus One has been delayed twice and wasn't about hardware, thought)? I think the answer is yes.
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fermasia said:
That doesn't explain what's been stated here. Right or wrong, people here are saying dev is slow and buggy, and sometimes it doesn't exist. That's the case of Moto G CM11. Never saw a CM build so buggy after 6 months of developement.
Is Cyanogen obliged to provide us with fast, stable and beautiful builds? Of course not.
Is it true that when Cyanogen was "mod" and not "Inc" things where much better for the open source community, since they are now too busy keeping up with their first phone (retailing of the OnePlus One has been delayed twice and wasn't about hardware, thought)? I think the answer is yes.
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I'm not disagreeing with you. The People who are expecting builds labeled as stable are gonna be waiting for a long time.
A lot of the opens source community dispersed, moved to omnirom and/or other projects.
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dethrat said:
I'm not disagreeing with you. The People who are expecting builds labeled as stable are gonna be waiting for a long time.
A lot of the opens source community dispersed, moved to omnirom and/or other projects.
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Omnirom guys began as they moved away from the project when it became a profit company, that's true. But that's not the problem, actually, some guys from other pojects left open source and joined Cyanogen Inc. The problem is much more simple: things work differently when your goal is to make money. It's not a felony, course, but it's a "sin" in terms of opensource spirit, and now we are seen it's tangible results.
CM has lost it's soul, it's original purpose, so now things are being rushed and pushed, and the guys working on it's non-profitable branches, even when they are doing their best (and I do thank them for sharing they work with us in exchange of nothing... except for the private information that now CM collects from every user), it's not the same as it was before. Put the label you want on their builds... stable, M1, XGKT512, it doesn't matter, the result is slow, buggy and unstable, if you compare to what CM was until it's 10.2 version.

Maybe it would be great do have info about known issues updated: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Known_Issues_page_for_falcon?setlang=en-gb. And less disappointment would arise.

You do realize that updates depend on the device maintainer, and if there isn't any then we won't get updates?

fermasia said:
Omnirom guys began as they moved away from the project when it became a profit company, that's true. But that's not the problem, actually, some guys from other pojects left open source and joined Cyanogen Inc. The problem is much more simple: things work differently when your goal is to make money. It's not a felony, course, but it's a "sin" in terms of opensource spirit, and now we are seen it's tangible results.
CM has lost it's soul, it's original purpose, so now things are being rushed and pushed, and the guys working on it's non-profitable branches, even when they are doing their best (and I do thank them for sharing they work with us in exchange of nothing... except for the private information that now CM collects from every user), it's not the same as it was before. Put the label you want on their builds... stable, M1, XGKT512, it doesn't matter, the result is slow, buggy and unstable, if you compare to what CM was until it's 10.2 version.
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That's the reason why when I got my current XT1033, I don't bothered to root and install custom roms! With Motorola still timely updating their software, that's no reason for custom roms. My previous phone Sony X8, I rooted and install various CM based roms, In my opinion, new functions/features were introduced for the sake of adding a long list of features in that roms without considering the stability and functionality issue, while at the same time more and more bugs were introduced. Many times the phone just don't worked when its matter most! Real frustrated but you can't complain because all are worked on their own freewill basis.

I have installed CM 10.2.1 on two Nooks because the Nook software, based on 4.0.4, is crap, IMO. I also have a 2013 Nexus 7 and my wife has a Moto X. I wouldn't dream of putting CM on either of those devices. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. YMMV.
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Lack of development

I have noticed there isn't a lot of development for our phone. Is the reason for this there is not a lot of devs interested in this phone, or are they all just waiting for MM to come out?
Don't get me wrong, I am thankful for the devs we do have, I guess I am just used to a larger selection of roms/kernels/apps.

I can't really say there is a lack of development per se. But then again I am coming from a g920a and the xda forums for that device are like a bad joke. But seriously we have Marshmallow already thanks to hackers; also a CM development thread and a debloated stock rom. We have a few kernels and I think development will hopefully heat up even further when stock marshmallow becomes official and also official CM support comes around, seeing as the majority of custom roms have at least some part of CM in them these days. I for one really hope a version of AOSPA gets released for this device eventually but then that will probably take a while as they haven't even started to work on MM yet it looks like. But really this phone is already amazing. I am running Marshmallow and doze along with amplify has dramatically improved the only problem I was having; the battery. I left my phone over night for a bit over 10 hours last night and it only lost 1%! And that was with WIFI bluetooth and location still running. I freaking love this phone, and I am confident that the development activity is still young and just getting started.

I'd imagine it'll pick up a decent amount more once we get MM. I doubt you'd see anything new before then...not really much of a point to spend a lot of time on anything just to start over in a week or two.

kclive said:
I have noticed there isn't a lot of development for our phone. Is the reason for this there is not a lot of devs interested in this phone, or are they all just waiting for MM to come out?
Don't get me wrong, I am thankful for the devs we do have, I guess I am just used to a larger selection of roms/kernels/apps.
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I agree with your concern, however, I know once mm comes it will pick up. The 6p being released didn't help things I'm sure. This is a great bootloader unlockable phone and I am along for the ride whatever it entails. That 6p isn't enough to make me jump yet. Still I keep checking stock in case I change my mind. Lol

I agree about this phone being amazing. I guess I am used to seeing my roms and kernels since I am coming from a nexus 6. I have no doubt there will be more development once MM drops.

Coming from one plus one, development is super slow with MXP. Pretty much all phones I've owned had decent development. All the Samsung devices has more development than MXP. I'm optimistic something great will come out in the future. Just surprised we don't have more developer's on this device.
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I agree, I thought there would be a little more dev, but I am happy with the phone and with the devs we do have. They all do great work.

Well. I already have working versions of CM-based ROMs such as LiquidSmooth. But, MM is what I am waiting for to release them. Plus, the AOSP source tree does not support building for MSM8992 platforms by default i.e. without additional patching for LP. But with MM that is fixed. Once, the blobs for MM are out (for XT1575), development should pick up pace with respect to AOSP-based ROMs as well.

CM14 Nexus 6p

There is any new on the horizon for cm14 on Nexus 6p? I searched a lot around the forums but did not find something...

vagenrider said:
There is any new on the horizon for cm14 on Nexus 6p? I searched a lot around the forums but did not find something...
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You found nothing because there's nothing, they just announced they'll release it but google has still to release most of the blobs,so you'll have to wait for cm14

That's weird because there's cm14 builds up for oneplus one and nexus 5. Guess they still have a lot more dev support than we do, though.

xxBrun0xx said:
That's weird because there's cm14 builds up for oneplus one and nexus 5. Guess they still have a lot more dev support than we do, though.
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Really? Are they full cm14 or just a stock-ish android nougat port for these devices?

Pretty sure cm14 is stock nougat at this point.

My only thoughts on this are why has Nexus 6P not had the cm-14.0 branch pushed yet? You'd think with it being a nexus device it would have been one of the first to get at least the device sources updated.
There are several different devices with this branch and work done so far, but nothing yet for the 6P.
Just find it odd, regardless of actual progress on CM14 itself.

Why is everyone in such a rush man?
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Jammol said:
Why is everyone in such a rush man?
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It is not that rush so much my friend.. simply had this wonder like many other users I guess
kronflux said:
My only thoughts on this are why has Nexus 6P not had the cm-14.0 branch pushed yet? You'd think with it being a nexus device it would have been one of the first to get at least the device sources updated.
There are several different devices with this branch and work done so far, but nothing yet for the 6P.
Just find it odd, regardless of actual progress on CM14 itself.
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I agree with you and will also add that I expected more development on this device
xxBrun0xx said:
Pretty sure cm14 is stock nougat at this point.
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agree
noooooo said:
Really? Are they full cm14 or just a stock-ish android nougat port for these devices?
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i think stock'ish

vagenrider said:
It is not that rush so much my friend.. simply had this wonder like many other users I guess
I agree with you and will also add that I expected more development on this device
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i think stock'ish
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It just seems like everyone wants things now now now. Factory images barely got put up yesterday? As far as development goes, I'm one of those old school flashers, there's only so much you can do with the same software. Pretty much all of the Roms are the same, with the same tweaks just under a different name. Am I the only that has thought this? ?
I feel like there's a lot of development for this device but it just all seems like the same. Then again, maybe everyone just wants more "development" to satisfy our flasholic syndrome???
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You don't have to be so pompous.

Really though, give it a few weeks at least. The last thing you want is a super early new major CM version. (or really any new Android version jump). Even as a old time Flashaholic, going from a major version (4.X-5.0) (5.X-6.0) is always a bit jaring in the lack of polish and stability as not only does the OS need some patching to fix bugs that inevitably exist, but the Apps aren't ready yet.
I have to admit, that 6.0.1 has been pretty darn smooth and unlike the 5.X days, 5.1 was ok when it was polished but the early 5.0 days was downright retarded (though pretty vs KK before it). And KK itself was great around 4.4.2-4.4.4 as well.
But on top of that, I love CM from the old days, but man first version were always a crapshoot and while they might perform ok for a bit, usually on all my devices after a few weeks of use would show some major signs of underlying bugs that took months to patch out, if ever. :/
As far as stability goes, I am sticking with Pure Nexus's 8/21 build and ElementalX's 1.22 Kernel build until 7.1 drops or something because this is the most stable my 6P has been in months. Closest it's been to running like the HTC10 which has been polished to a pretty dang good shine from HTC since its release as well. Prior to this, random slowdowns or the occasional random reboot were getting a bit annoying, and I don't see Android 7.0.0 being anywhere near stable enough to DD right now...

Jammol said:
It just seems like everyone wants things now now now. Factory images barely got put up yesterday? As far as development goes, I'm one of those old school flashers, there's only so much you can do with the same software. Pretty much all of the Roms are the same, with the same tweaks just under a different name. Am I the only that has thought this? ?
I feel like there's a lot of development for this device but it just all seems like the same. Then again, maybe everyone just wants more "development" to satisfy our flasholic syndrome???
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You have a point, which is why I get excited when I see something with a new name, but the exact same features as resurrection, aicp, du, etc...Enjoy the work of those who wanna make the ROMs, but OP has a point...
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hope we will see soon an unofficial build!

I had tried this: http://www.cyanogenmods.org/forums/topic/nexus-6p-cm14-cyanogenmod-14-nougat-7-0-rom/
The conclusion is it can't find the sim card (China Unicom), and I can't downgrade to cm13, and can't flash to cm13, it always stuck in the boot.
Now I am using the official Naught from Google.

You mean like this thread you clearly missed in the development forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/development/rom-cyanogenmod-14-0-t3470615

Community development strength

You're a power user. Can the Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite keep up? Rate this thread to express how "healthy" the development scene is for the Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite. A higher rating indicates available root methods, kernels, and custom ROMs.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Just hoping for the TWRP to come up soon. And for LineageOS-like ROMs to show, too. Eager to try them out and unleash all the phone's potential.
Looking good, though

The phone is keeping up very good actually this is my first budget phone after a long time of using the galaxy series,note series and nexus 6p it is a tad slower at opening closing apps and the gpu is also weaker but it is surprisingly good at keeping them open in the background. The battery life is by far the best so far i ever had, around 8 hours of screen time of actively using the phone. I really hope the development for this phone starts up looking forward to testing roms and helping out in the future.

No custom roms or kernels for now but the Kernel Source is already here and there's already some guides about different tasks, so the developpement community promises to be active, in addition to Android One and the GSI roms!

TWRP official is coming. phh-treble will be updated for rounded corners soon. we'll be selling mi a2 lite with boot loader unlocked (which you can do yourself ofc) and a 2yr warranty that won't be void when you flash roms. we're working on sponsoring opengapps twrp and phh-treble and providing dev support / bug bounties.
let me know if you want anything else...like lineageos official, etc.

hope to see development for the phone in the near future

Official TWRP is on the way, hope to see lineageos taking the same way as twrp.
It's a very nice phone, relatively compact, big battery, volte, easy to unlock, A/B partition...

An official Lineage would be pretty nice to have.

Ordered the Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite 4gb/64gb last week. Anxious to see it delivered. My old Nexus 4 is still going strong, almost 5 years later, but it is having glitches and severe battery issues when I run GPS and maps. The other day, it reset itself and wiped all my user photos. Most were already backed-up, but still. It runs Android 7.1.2, otherwise. So, time to move on with a new phone.

bmoke said:
Ordered the Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite 4gb/64gb last week. Anxious to see it delivered. My old Nexus 4 is still going strong, almost 5 years later, but it is having glitches and severe battery issues when I run GPS and maps. The other day, it reset itself and wiped all my user photos. Most were already backed-up, but still. It runs Android 7.1.2, otherwise. So, time to move on with a new phone.
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Official TWRP is here, working on LOS.

nice! Thanks!

d1ngh said:
Official TWRP is here, working on LOS.
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Woohoo

d1ngh said:
Official TWRP is here, working on LOS.
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15.1 or 16 If I may ask?

Is the notch well supported by custom roms like lineage os?

khoavn said:
Is the notch well supported by custom roms like lineage os?
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Not in every custom rom. Tried a few, GSI Pixel Experience P Rom does support it.
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I expected a fully working build by now but still looks like nothing coming up to 6 months old this phone as well

mortmaru said:
I expected a fully working build by now but still looks like nothing coming up to 6 months old this phone as well
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Agreed but still a great phone, now pie is (un) officially here so it's all good.. what do you really want? It is a banger of a budget.. how many devices have you owned that couldn't even be rooted comfortably? There are quite a few. I suspect things will pick up in the coming months as people keep hearing about this phone..

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Agreed but still a great phone, now pie is (un) officially here so it's all good.. what do you really want? It is a banger of a budget.. how many devices have you owned that couldn't even be rooted comfortably? There are quite a few. I suspect things will pick up in the coming months as people keep hearing about this phone..
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I have never owned a phone which can't be rooted starting with the likes of htc desire upwards then switched to chinese brands starting with redmi note 2 all have supported custom roms/roots.
This is the only one that has had very poor support.
I don't agree regarding budget cheapest 4gb/64gb version i saw for was about £145 for that price Redmi note 6 Pro is better value.
I don't expect much from this 6 months past and not even stable recovery/root and you would think some one would of done even a basic miui port (even original firmware has lots of issues still with slow updates compared to other android one phones)

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mortmaru said:
I have never owned a phone which can't be rooted starting with the likes of htc desire upwards then switched to chinese brands starting with redmi note 2 all have supported custom roms/roots.
This is the only one that has had very poor support.
I don't agree regarding budget cheapest 4gb/64gb version i saw for was about £145 for that price Redmi note 6 Pro is better value.
I don't expect much from this 6 months past and not even stable recovery/root and you would think some one would of done even a basic miui port (even original firmware has lots of issues still with slow updates compared to other android one phones)
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for root you can use magisk, I have installed it on mine. this phone is for those who don't like big phones as this can be operated using one hand only