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So with the second gen moto G and X starting to get lollipop, how much longer do you guys think untill we start seeing our soak tests?

Is the Verizon Moto X and G getting the update or just the gsm version? If the Verizon Moto X is getting it, then it shouldn't too much longer for us. maybe a few weeks I would guess.

Nope just unlocked gsm versions. I'm thinking January if moto keeps with their quick updates like last year.
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verizon probably needs some time to prepare the bloatwares

Let's hope xposed will be compatible with ART by then. Who knows, maybe a Lollipop based AOSP ROM will be released before Verizon's. Either way, not in a big hurry since my phone is pretty much running all Lollipop Gapps. The only thing not updated is the dialer.

Johnny Wong said:
Let's hope xposed will be compatible with ART by then. Who knows, maybe a Lollipop based AOSP ROM will be released before Verizon's. Either way, not in a big hurry since my phone is pretty much running all Lollipop Gapps. The only thing not updated is the dialer.
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droid maxx will probably get the update in about a week or two...werent the 2013 droids the first to get 4.4.4? even before nexus if i remember right...
either way im really loving an improved battery and LTE on T-mobile on my droid maxx after the su5 23.3.24 update

My guess is that the 2013 Droids won't see Lollipop until 2015. Motorola will want to update the 2014 Moto X, the 2014 Moto G, and the 2013 Moto X, maybe the 2013 Moto G and E, and Verizon will want to update the Turbo, before both get around to the Ultra/Maxx/Mini. The 2012 Droids (Razr M and Razr HD series) got a KitKat update in May. Hopefully the update will get to the 2013 Droids before next May, but I think we still have to wait for those other phones to be updated first.

In depth review of Lollipop: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/11/android-5-0-lollipop-thoroughly-reviewed/

Based on Nexus reviews(6) Lollipop has integrated Google Now with hot word detection so the Moto Assist app will be obsolete. It also means much quicker operation without the extra app handing off data to Google Now.

bwheelies said:
Based on Nexus reviews(6) Lollipop has integrated Google Now with hot word detection so the Moto Assist app will be obsolete. It also means much quicker operation without the extra app handing off data to Google Now.
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At the expense of more battery drain. I think I'll stick with touchless controls/Moto Voice and its use of the low power processor. (The assist app announces text messages and voice calls while you're driving, so I think you mean Moto Voice...)

bwheelies said:
Based on Nexus reviews(6) Lollipop has integrated Google Now with hot word detection so the Moto Assist app will be obsolete. It also means much quicker operation without the extra app handing off data to Google Now.
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well I don't know about your phone but my droid Maxx runs faster with a cyst it gets to Google faster and Google runs faster than going straight from Google yeah may be weird but it does

Motorola says the update is ready just waiting for carrier approval. Hopefully this means they will soak test soon.

nicotheandroidguy said:
Motorola says the update is ready just waiting for carrier approval. Hopefully this means they will soak test soon.
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Huh? Haven't seen this news yet. Do you have a source?

jaydotelloh said:
Huh? Haven't seen this news yet. Do you have a source?
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Yeah it says pending partner (Verizon) support. https://motorola-global-portal.cust...iZHltTzNmOW0iLCJzZXNzaW9uSUQiOiJ5VU5uM2Y5bSJ9

http://motorola-blog.blogspot.in/201...inkId=12303485
Moto Maxx now has a soak test for Lollipop. So, Turbo should be next and then we can get it on the Maxx.

s_u_n said:
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.in/201...inkId=12303485
Moto Maxx now has a soak test for Lollipop. So, Turbo should be next and then we can get it on the Maxx.
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May not be so soon according to this. If I understand correctly that the Droid Ultra/Maxx has the same processor as the 2013 Moto X but someone correct me if I am wrong on that.
On the downside, Motorola tweeted via its official support Twitter account about the status of the Moto X (2013) Lollipop update, suggesting that it was still some way off.
Motorola Support @MotorolaSupport
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@ac2k9 Moto X (1st Gen) will get L, but chipset requires more effort. We're working to deliver satisfactory experience, performance.
2:21 PM - 9 Feb 2015
The 'L' in the tweet is referring to Lollipop, and the chipset in question is the Snapdragon S4 Pro.
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Tweet link
https://twitter.com/MotorolaSupport/status/564881795767095298
Story
http://www.androidpit.com/moto-e-and-moto-maxx-android-lollipop-update-incoming

Id sure like to know where the lollipop update is for the droid maxx, mini and ultra.

fix-this! said:
Id sure like to know where the lollipop update is for the droid maxx, mini and ultra.
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Or "If" it is... Seriously, at this point I am hoping that they do make us wait till 5.1.. With the reports of fixes and improvements, it will be worth it...
Here is my theory why: Our phones are reaching the outer edges of carrier,OEM and Google support. If we get 5.0, 5.01 or 5.02,,, we may not see another update beyond that. We could be stuck with whatever they give us for good. I am checking like everyone else for the update, but aside from my own personal desire for instant gratification, I believe we may be better off to not get it with a shot at 5.1...
This is very difficult for me since this is the first Android device I have had with no unlocked bootloader or root. But the phone still rocks pretty hard.

fix-this! said:
Id sure like to know where the lollipop update is for the droid maxx, mini and ultra.
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Seriously, it's not coming until after the Droid Turbo, and almost certainly after the 2013 moto x on Verizon. Neither phone is even in a soak test right now.
Last year the 2012 Droids got KitKat in may. I'd say that's the earliest the Maxx gets Lollipop this year.

doogald said:
Seriously, it's not coming until after the Droid Turbo, and almost certainly after the 2013 moto x on Verizon. Neither phone is even in a soak test right now.
Last year the 2012 Droids got KitKat in may. I'd say that's the earliest the Maxx gets Lollipop this year.
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not positive we will even get it tbh. glad this isn't my personal device, just a work phone.

Lollipop 5.1.1 is coming. Could it be true?

I've lost all hope for a lollipop upgrade for my Maxx, but saw this today:
Source: http://www.vcpost.com/articles/8958...rola-droid-turbo-maxx-ultra.htm#ixzz3lMb8jQg9
September 9, 2015
Android Lollipop's latest software version 5.1.1 is confirmed coming very soon to Motorola devices, including DROID Turbo, DROID Maxx, DROID Ultra, DROID Mini, and Moto Maxx. The final Lollipop update will bring new features, enhancements and security patches.
Motorola already reported previously a series of rollout schedules revealing which devices will get first the Lollipop update. As reported, there are a total of 17 smartphones Motorola is considering to update with the new Android Lollipop software, including DROID Turbo, DROID Maxx, DROID Ultra, DROID Mini, & Moto Maxx.
Aside from these devices, Motorola also considers 2014 Moto E, 2013 Moto E, 2014 Moto E with 4G LTE, 2015 Moto X, 2014 Moto X, Moto X Pro, 2013 Moto G, and 2014 Moto G. Soon to be released Moto X Style and Moto X Play are expected to run on Android 5.1.1 Lollipop out of the box.
The final Lollipop update will bring changes and bug fixes such as an improved Material design, supports for Android Pay, USB-Type, and fingerprint sensor. It will also feature new device switch, device sync and some other enhancements.
In Motorola's support page, a news report underscored that beginning August 10 security patches for the Stagefright threat were released and take on with the devices' software before 5.1.1 Lollipop even releases. However, other bug fixes will also be released for the upcoming update.
The final version of Lollipop will bring improvements in icons, home launcher, Material Design, and power management.
Changing icon size in home launcher settings is enabled.
Pressing up and down volume bars will bring the graphic up. Tapping the button on the right expands the volume menu.
Tapping the icon on the left side twice silences the phone.
New icons for the settings menu.
To check the update, just head over to Settings > About phone > System update > Check for updates.
DROID Turbo, DROID Maxx, DROID Ultra, DROID Mini, & Moto Maxx units under major mobile carriers AT&T, Verizon Wireless, T-Mobile, Sprint and US Cellular currently run the Android 4.4.4 KitKat.

I hope you're right, but deep down I think is just wishful thinking
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I'm sure it'll happen, but for those of us with locked devices it means (more than likely based on past history) that if we do upgrade to Lollipop we'll never be able to downgrade back to KitKat and honestly I find KitKat to be nearly perfect for my particular methods of using my smartphone. It's fast, lean, it gets the job done, obviously mine is rooted nowadays and I have some stuff tweaked out with Gravity Box that makes it a pleasure to use unlike so many other smartphones out there and even ones that I've owned and liked.
It's good enough as it is, at least for me.

br0adband said:
I'm sure it'll happen, but for those of us with locked devices it means (more than likely based on past history) that if we do upgrade to Lollipop we'll never be able to downgrade back to KitKat and honestly I find KitKat to be nearly perfect for my particular methods of using my smartphone. It's fast, lean, it gets the job done, obviously mine is rooted nowadays and I have some stuff tweaked out with Gravity Box that makes it a pleasure to use unlike so many other smartphones out there and even ones that I've owned and liked.
It's good enough as it is, at least for me.
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I'm with you on that. Plus, I plan to pick up a Moto X Pure in the coming weeks or so, so don't really care anymore.
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make sure those OTA updates are turned off. :laugh: i mean, just until the bugs get worked out.

I'm running exodus rom 5.1.1 and it kicks stock kk ass. Very smooth the only thing I miss is the ability to use touchless control when screen is off. But it's not a deal breaker.
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Yeah, touchless control is cool but I only go, "OK Google Now" to mess with it. Never actually had a time where I used it for anything meaningful. I hope it wasn't the touchless control that held up the official release of LP.

These people on the website posts these thing but they don't even know were they go the info from. If this were the case he would post the announcer of whos stating this info.But I believe it !!! can't wait either and will the update brick our phones if we are rooted?? Will we have to use SU app to full unroot ? Don't know what to do when it's here ?

I already have my pure and the Maxx is now my backup device.
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It will be nice.. but no any official news here -https://forums.motorola.com/posts/19343d1335

Congrats on the pure. 5.1.1 is great isn't it?
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Hate to say this, but the article is fake.
1) All major carriers?! T-Mobile, Sprint, AT&T?!!! They didn't release any Droids; only Verizon had that lineup.
2) If us XT1060 users didn't get 5.1.1 YET, how the **** would you guys get it.

Okay, I was quick to dismiss this too until I saw this: http://www.droid-life.com/2015/09/12/moto-x-lollipop-1st-gen-verizon/
Aren't the internals of the first gen Moto X and the Droids nearly identical?

grimez said:
Okay, I was quick to dismiss this too until I saw this: http://www.droid-life.com/2015/09/12/moto-x-lollipop-1st-gen-verizon/
Aren't the internals of the first gen Moto X and the Droids nearly identical?
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Yes
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So is anyone here able to port the moto x build over to the maxx top snake did it with 4.4.4 but he no longer has a maxx

bigv5150 said:
So is anyone here able to port the moto x build over to the maxx top snake did it with 4.4.4 but he no longer has a maxx
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bump! lol

Soaks out yet? Moto X 1st gen and ultra maxx are basically the same phone, but Maxx the better 5.1.1 is approved for the xt1060
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I'm running VZW 5.1.1 on my Moto X DE and I like it. Can't wait for them to release it for the Maxx. I rooted the phone long enough to modify build.prop to turn off tether provisioning and then unrooted so I can get Android Pay working. The wave to wake is not working though unfortunately.
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Correction to the above post, it is LP 5.1 not 5.1.1, got so used to typing that running the Exodus ROM on the Maxx, just flowed right out. Anyway, the Moto X has been running great with it, battery drain doesn't seem to be any worse than KitKat but I'm quickly getting bored of the Moto X. This puppy is going back to being the backup phone. Motorola neutered LP, can't find Smart Lock anywhere, the wave over sensor to wake is not there. The positive is Moto app, voice control, etc. Will revisit again when it comes to the Maxx but for now, I rather play with the Maxx running Exodus than the Moto X running VZW LP 5.1.
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So finally vzw moto x got lollipop update
What other devices are remaining for lollipop..
I think driod 2013 series will be last in the list.

No kernels? roms?

Hi! maybe this is a "young" phone. But i come from a Galaxy Note 3 and the community was superb.
Here we barely have threads.

The Droid Turbo 2 hasn't been rooted therefore there's no kernels or roms. The X-force is rootable but no devs have picked up working on it.

0blaze said:
Hi! maybe this is a "young" phone. But i come from a Galaxy Note 3 and the community was superb.
Here we barely have threads.
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We should start a bounty for buying a device for one developer that commits to the device. Just saying.

I would try to learn a thing or two about creating roms and that. I develop apps, but i suppose that is quite different.

What is the point of creating ROMs or Kernels when there is no way to use them? Figure out how to unlock the phone first, and stop putting the cart before the horse.

imnuts said:
What is the point of creating ROMs or Kernels when there is no way to use them? Figure out how to unlock the phone first, and stop putting the cart before the horse.
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The non rooted phone is the Verizone version. But there's not a dedicated forum to the Moto X force (kinzie).

It's rooted, nothing more unless I missed something. Hard to use a custom kernel or ROM if all you have is root, so my point remains accurate.
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imnuts said:
It's rooted, nothing more unless I missed something. Hard to use a custom kernel or ROM if all you have is root, so my point remains accurate.
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The X-force has an unlocked bootloader and root, it just needs someone to start developing for it. There's already an unofficial CM rom build thread going for it.
This forum really should break the Droid Turbo 2 and X-Force into different sub forums to stop confusion. They have the LG G2 broken down by the carrier, I don't see what the issue is with doing something similar for this model.

mjones73 said:
The X-force has an unlocked bootloader and root, it just needs someone to start developing for it. There's already an unofficial CM rom build thread going for it.
This forum really should break the Droid Turbo 2 and X-Force into different sub forums to stop confusion. They have the LG G2 broken down by the carrier, I don't see what the issue is with doing something similar for this model.
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Yeah, well people complained about that in the Quark forum for MONTHS. Droid Turbo/Moto Maxx and Moto Turbo The Verizon Droid Turbo was locked down and those owners were jealous of all the dev work going on with the unlocked bootloader version. Just like here. We had TWRP, official CM (with improved Ambient Display with IR sensors response), Mokee ROM, Nexus Experience ROM.
They finally got the fourms split in September 2015, and guess what? Droid Turbo bootloader unlocked via Sunshine November 2015. Now, they all have to go over to the Moto Maxx forum for their dev fix. More Droid Turbo owners posting in the Moto Maxx forum than Moto Maxx owners. Yeah, the kernels and ROMs work on all Quarks.

I don't think jealously is a problem, it just confuses people.

mjones73 said:
I don't think jealously is a problem, it just confuses people.
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I think most devs correctly identify which device their recovery/ROM/kernel works with in the op post. If people don't even read post #1 of a thread, their own fault.
Even just casually glancing through this forum, people are identifying which Kinzie they have, Moto X Force or Droid Turbo 2. I don't see an issue.
In the Quark forum it was problematic when people insisted on just saying "Turbo". Uh, WHICH Turbo? The Moto TURBO XT1225 or Droid TURBO XT1254?
With Moto X Force/Droid Turbo 2, you don't have that to worry about.

ROMS?

Is anyone actively developing for the Turbo 2? I have the Moto X Pure now and just ordered the Turbo 2, but it looks like there aren't any ROMS available. Just trying to figure out if I should return the Turbo 2 when it arrives.
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Only this ROM is currently being developed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo-2/development/rom-cm-12-1-kinzie-t3319189
The developers have said that they don't have much time at the moment..

If you want to Root and ROM you bought the wrong phone.
You didn't think to check that out before you bought it?

Good ROMS are only available for old hardware. You just can't have it all! LOL

bendrum30 said:
Is anyone actively developing for the Turbo 2? I have the Moto X Pure now and just ordered the Turbo 2, but it looks like there aren't any ROMS available. Just trying to figure out if I should return the Turbo 2 when it arrives.
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Why would anyone build a rom for a locked phone it could never be used on.

those on x force would be disappointed.
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I am looking forward to something like CM13 for x force sometime in the future hopefully moto actions active display etc can be implemented properly.
Long time CM user i have flashed CM on most of my android phones through the years this one shouldnt be any different

Android nougat?

Is the droid turbo 2 planned to have Android 7 in the future ?

Nothing planned that any of us mortals knows. Time will tell.
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http://www.ubergizmo.com/2016/08/motorola-fastest-with-android-updates/

Is not poss

Here's a link to an Android Central article posted today. Not looking good for our T2s so far. Scroll down to the Motorola section.
http://m.androidcentral.com/will-my-phone-get-updated-android-nougat
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karlmf said:
Here's a link to an Android Central article posted today. Not looking good for our T2s so far. Scroll down to the Motorola section.
http://m.androidcentral.com/will-my-phone-get-updated-android-nougat
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X Play and Style are released before X Force/Turbo 2, so doesn't make sense to update older devices and left newer and last year flagships behind. But corporate logic is sometimes strange
Anyway, I'm pretty sure Force and with long Velay, Turbo 2 will get update.

I ask to Moto via twitter if Moto x Force will be updated to N:
twitter.com/Moto_Support/status/768395675210018816

It appears the Droid Turbo 2 is indeed on Moto's list of phones to update to 7.0.
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2016/10/n-is-for-nougat-android-70-is-coming-to.html

No Moto X Force on the list (just kidding )

yes it is:
http://www.androidcentral.com/these-are-motorola-phones-will-be-updated-android-70-nougat

What's all the bedwetting about Nougat about? I have it on my 6P and from a user experience point of view the only difference from MM is the degraded battery life. Yup, you read that right, so far battery life on Nougat is worse than MM. Once Xposed is released that will likely change because Amplify and Greenify will work in their full glory, but as of today there is little/no reason to upgrade to Nougat, other than to experience the disappointment and then revert back to MM. For my money I will take root on the T2 over Nougat any time of day. At least then we get custom Kernel and the ability to make the already great battery life truly insane, which frankly is one of the few reasons to own a T2 anyway, at least IMO.