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[Q] Update to 4.4.2?

Recently, i've noticed that finally the Kit Kat version for S4 has been released (4.4.2). I was wondering if anyone already updated it and if so i would like to know how it feels comparing to the android 4.3 and finally, i would like to know if i should wait for future 4.4.2 versions since the only one that is available is the India version.
My GS4 is completely unlocked (i9500)

it's more fluid if you ask me. the battery icon is white now... so that is good. not much of an upgrade though. 4.3 is still good. My advice is wait for your area's release or a good custom ROM. Also, as of now, no custom kernels have been made for 4.4.2.

I m using echoe v16 with kk. So smooth. You should try
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it is better then 4.3 for me

Better than jb 4.3. smooth and better battery life. :good:

4.4.2 definitely runs slightly faster than 4.3. Features wise, there is nothing much that you would really care about. The battery life is also better.
I'm on the old bootloader and rooted. Using Goldeneye Rom for my i9505.

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I'm still on 4.3. And will stay on it for the moment... now running for 12 h and still 62% of juice. I use it to call, check mails, turning data on only to check and when i get home wifi is on all the time.. battery life is very, very good. Never have battery drain.
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I hate micro lags and it's a lot better than JB I would say. Just scrolling down via a huge email list or tweet or so is really fluid. Almost like iOS !
Thank you Samsung for presenting me KitKat for my last three months of Android life.

Update to KitKat or Not?

After seeing many different comments. I wanted to get a general idea on whether to update LG G2 to 4.4.2 Kitkat or stay with the 4.2.2 JellyBean version?
I mostly think about the OFFICIAL Kitkat release, NON-ROOTED.
I have seen people talking about battery and bluetooth battery drain problems on the new update... So which one is better?
Thanks.

Got better for me when I updated, and or was pretty dang good before
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For me is KK better and faster yes have some problems with battery drain and bluetooth but if you flash any custom rom you resolve this problem i use custom rom and custom kernel and i not have this problem and i not use bluetooth everyday so my battery is pretty good so update to KK and be happy

yes!
Absolutely update to Kit Kat... ONCE ROOTED

Anyone using Tmobile version with KK rooted? Does wifi calling feature work?

sam298 said:
Anyone using Tmobile version with KK rooted? Does wifi calling feature work?
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Yes yes and yes.
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BLiNKT said:
For me is KK better and faster yes have some problems with battery drain and bluetooth but if you flash any custom rom you resolve this problem i use custom rom and custom kernel and i not have this problem and i not use bluetooth everyday so my battery is pretty good so update to KK and be happy
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MrShickadance9 said:
Absolutely update to Kit Kat... ONCE ROOTED
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What about NON-ROOTED?
Which OFFICIAL version would be better?

Zhoene said:
What about NON-ROOTED?
Which OFFICIAL version would be better?
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Kitkat it is. It is the most updated and it is there for a reason: to fix Jelly bean's flaws. :fingers-crossed:

If you HAVE ROOT or NOT HAVE anyway update to Kitkat because is better

BLiNKT said:
For me is KK better and faster yes have some problems with battery drain and bluetooth but if you flash any custom rom you resolve this problem i use custom rom and custom kernel and i not have this problem and i not use bluetooth everyday so my battery is pretty good so update to KK and be happy
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Oh no. One of the reasons why i ditched my nexus 4 for lg g2 is because nexus 4 had bluetooth connection issues with my car. Looks like it has to do with google 4.3 and 4.4+ roms no matter what phone you have. I have heard only sense and touchwiz didnt have this issue in KK. As i drive a lot, i need this feature. Looks like 4.4.3 fixes bluetooth - hope we get it for lg g2.
Other than that only things you will loose going to KK is
flash wont work with stock browser even if you use hacked flash player - works with dolphin+jetpack though.
stock browser inverted rendering wont work - dolphin night mode is great though.
Battery drain difference between the versions are minimal. I tried both in my nexus 4. If you experience a drain, it might be due to play services. some versions keep the location services running even if you turn off the location. I use appops to turn it off and i get good battery in KK.
What kind of issue you have with bluetooth? Not connecting? or not auto connecting with paired devices?
Edit: Bluetooth working fine for me with kitkat stock. Same car with which i had problems with nexus 4, works with lg g2.

sam298 said:
Oh no. One of the reasons why i ditched my nexus 4 for lg g2 is because nexus 4 had bluetooth connection issues with my car. Looks like it has to do with google 4.3 and 4.4+ roms no matter what phone you have. I have heard only sense and touchwiz didnt have this issue in KK. As i drive a lot, i need this feature. Looks like 4.4.3 fixes bluetooth - hope we get it for lg g2.
Other than that only things you will loose going to KK is
flash wont work with stock browser even if you use hacked flash player - works with dolphin+jetpack though.
stock browser inverted rendering wont work - dolphin night mode is great though.
Battery drain difference between the versions are minimal. I tried both in my nexus 4. If you experience a drain, it might be due to play services. some versions keep the location services running even if you turn off the location. I use appops to turn it off and i get good battery in KK.
What kind of issue you have with bluetooth? Not connecting? or not auto connecting with paired devices?
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Where can i get appops???I look on Google Play but i see some appops which app i must download?

buenarc said:
Kitkat it is. It is the most updated and it is there for a reason: to fix Jelly bean's flaws. :fingers-crossed:
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it's the other way around, actually. it introduced endless amount of "flaws" to the almost perfect LG's JB builds.

BLiNKT said:
Where can i get appops???I look on Google Play but i see some appops which app i must download?
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Read this battery thread
I used this appops app
You can try others too. Make sure it works with KK. Some wont.

kitkat got indeed a way better batt.life and bluetooth batt.drain is a myth

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kitkat got indeed a way better batt.life and bluetooth batt.drain is a myth
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For how long are you using it?
Could Kitkat be adjusting itself to the optimum in time?

I decided to stick with the stock rooted jb as it came with the phone. If it ain't broke.......and I've found nothing to complain about.
Posted from my LG G2

Yes, but only castom!

Fastbird said:
I decided to stick with the stock rooted jb as it came with the phone. If it ain't broke.......and I've found nothing to complain about.
Posted from my LG G2
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I'm really thinking of going back to JB. Battery was heaven on there. I used to go 30 minutes SOT before it dropped to 99%. Now, after 12 minutes it drops. Battery life is not bad but once you taste batter, well, who doesn't want to stay at better. I just underclocked to 1.5Ghz for the day to see battery usage. First time underclocked with any device.
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Hey guys, ive tested both. I would say battery on JB is better but overall speed is improved in KK (a least it feels like that).. so it just depends on your preferences..
(But i like the statusbar a looot more in KK)

Battery and speed is better for me on Kitkat.
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Note 3 Kitkat Vs Lollipop

Should i upgrade to lollipop? my note 3 n9005
iv heard some draining battery issue :v

I have the same question. I feel good with KK rom: very stable, fast, battery friend. All apps works good.
I would like to try Lollipop, but read a lot of battery drain problems, no real advantages in performance, some compatibility issues for some apps.
Is lollipop really better, at this moment for note 3?
If yes, in your opinion, why?
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I ran lollipop since it came out and recently rolled back to KK. The phone is smooth and responsive again.
You wait hours to open the recents and the phone is simply lagging after 2 or 3 days of uptime.
The lollipop UI looks better and feels more polished, but the performance is a deal breaker.
I haven't had any issues with battery life, pretty much same as KK.

Until they fix the memory leak LP will not be any where near as good as KK and with M coming out soon they very well may stop updating LP for M and make a new polish OS instead of patching LP to match KK performances. ..I'm using arya rom v5.4 and having no problems yet but performance is not better than KK and recent apps takes way to long to open ...i do like KK clean fast and battery good audio is better in KK small glitches on LP ...it just doesn't feel like it's polished enough for a high end phone
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The only way that i'll use LP, is when they release 5.1 version. Until that i stay with 4.4.2.

I'm happily staying on 4.4.2. 5.0 is unstable, looks terrible and has far too many problems.
In fact, I'm still on NB7. Yes, Februari 2014. The battery life I have is amazing, I'm not risking an update.
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Which is more frienldy for battery? KK or Lollipop?

I would say kitkat has a better stability ,smoother and more battery friendly without you doing much tweaking. Lollipop can be as good as kitkat but need tweaking.
If you are ordinary user and do not care about updates, I recommend kitkat. If you are flasholic then most likely you will move forward to Lollipop and android M soon.
N9005 Rocking with Norma v21 Lollipop + Lean 6.2

In this week I will back for KK and make a root. Half year wothout root is tiring. White settings etc now are booring for me so i back for 4.4.2 and next maybe update for 5.0 but with using Mobile Odin pro and root permission.
Very irrytating is slow react proximity sensor when i set aside from the ear after call.

Only kk
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Will official and sharp version of Lollipop ever see the light of day ?

It is soon august in just 2 todays, I wonder will Lollipop ever se the light of day ? Lollipop have been delayed for soon 6 months or so,
Huawei get a big "fail" in this regard..
Just to make sure, I am not a beta tester I am a customer, which means it is not my job to be a beta tester and provide feedback to Huawei, it is their job to employ a team of "beta testers" not use "free working ants" who do there job for free.
Unfortunately it has taken so long that I will for sure think twice of ever buying a Huawei device again.
They are a good hardware company but their software lacks both updates and functions
Just compare with most Lollipop devices out there right now, even the latest MEIZU have a more fun looking look.
All the animations are boring as **** and non inspiring on Mate 7. On default settings the animations are very slow which make me frustrated, I have set the animation on faster speed but that on the other hand makes them less smooth.
It is sad, I really liked Huwei they showed so much promise for the future and did do so many things right, but it really feels they have forgotten all the million people who have bought this device it is not acceptable. By the time Lollipop is available for Mate 7 that Android M is already rolled out so no people will be happy when lollipop is finally available... cause then we are already 1 year behind again.

I`ll take a rock stable KK rom over a buggy L rom anytime There`s nothing i misss from Lollipop tbh and i ran it on the Nexus 6.

Perfect solution?
Nexus from Huawei

Actually I second gee. I have broken my LG G3, and bought a Mate. There is NOTHING at all I miss from the (battery draining) lollipop on this great phone.
Only thing I miss a bit is lockscreen notification - but NiLS does a great job here.
IF (when) lollipop arrives I shall update it - but I don't miss it at all

It will you just have to wait. The Kirin chipset is kinda different. See how it's so fluid for KK compared to other chips which caused some lags? Lollipop must have changed it 180 degrees hence it will need more time for optimization

drmodify said:
It will you just have to wait. The Kirin chipset is kinda different. See how it's so fluid for KK compared to other chips which caused some lags? Lollipop must have changed it 180 degrees hence it will need more time for optimization
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I tried the KK lollipop launcher it was really really laggy on my Mate 7..

Have yo tried Nova launcher? I have huawei y635 emui 3.0 kk, Nova works absolutely lag free on this low end hardware
Should be breezing on Ham7

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Have yo tried Nova launcher? I have huawei y635 emui 3.0 kk, Nova works absolutely lag free on this low end hardware
Should be breezing on Ham7
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I have been trying a few launchers this week because I am so dead tired of the apperance on the M7.
However I have not fallen in love with any of the launchers yet...this include nova..
I wish there was more multi tasking functions..
There is a app that is called heads-up which brings lollipop style notifcation.. I place these in the middle of screen cause this is very my thumb is normally.. I also use C notice in combination with it..this is perfect.. combo.. must have..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=codes.simen.l50notifications&hl=en

blackinfinity said:
It is soon august in just 2 todays, I wonder will Lollipop ever se the light of day ? Lollipop have been delayed for soon 6 months or so,
Huawei get a big "fail" in this regard..
Just to make sure, I am not a beta tester I am a customer, which means it is not my job to be a beta tester and provide feedback to Huawei, it is their job to employ a team of "beta testers" not use "free working ants" who do there job for free.
Unfortunately it has taken so long that I will for sure think twice of ever buying a Huawei device again.
They are a good hardware company but their software lacks both updates and functions
Just compare with most Lollipop devices out there right now, even the latest MEIZU have a more fun looking look.
All the animations are boring as **** and non inspiring on Mate 7. On default settings the animations are very slow which make me frustrated, I have set the animation on faster speed but that on the other hand makes them less smooth.
It is sad, I really liked Huwei they showed so much promise for the future and did do so many things right, but it really feels they have forgotten all the million people who have bought this device it is not acceptable. By the time Lollipop is available for Mate 7 that Android M is already rolled out so no people will be happy when lollipop is finally available... cause then we are already 1 year behind again.
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jeez man i hope u can sleep bcos you such inpatient..

You just need to remember that only 18% of Android devices has lollipop 5.0 not to mention 5.1.1.

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You just need to remember that only 18% of Android devices has lollipop 5.0 not to mention 5.1.1.
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But most of 2014 devices have lollipop yes ?
5 year old android devices are included in your statistics, and these devices do not even support lollipop..

Wow it is 5th August today and still no official lollipop release I guess people are just happy with a beta version.

blackinfinity said:
Wow it is 5th August today and still no official lollipop release I guess people are just happy with a beta version.
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Speaking for me personally, I am simply happy to wait for a stable release.
I just switched to HAM7 from a Samsung Galaxy S4 on 5.0.1. I would choose HAM7 on Kitkat over the S4 with Lollipop any time. This is in terms of stability, battery life and performance.
Not to mention that the upgrade to Lollipop on the S4 reduced the battery life drastically and only a custom kernel can make the phone usable for a day. And these issues were not only on the outdated S4 but also in the S5.
All I'm saying is that I'd love to have Lollipop on the HAM but I would rather wait for a stable version than frustrate myself with a new update that makes my experience worse than it was before the upgrade.
Just look at the Samsung forums to see people asking how to downgrade to Kitkat soon after the Lollipop update was out.
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kta said:
Speaking for me personally, I am simply happy to wait for a stable release.
I just switched to HAM7 from a Samsung Galaxy S4 on 5.0.1. I would choose HAM7 on Kitkat over the S4 with Lollipop any time. This is in terms of stability, battery life and performance.
Not to mention that the upgrade to Lollipop on the S4 reduced the battery life drastically and only a custom kernel can make the phone usable for a day. And these issues were not only on the outdated S4 but also in the S5.
All I'm saying is that I'd love to have Lollipop on the HAM but I would rather wait for a stable version than frustrate myself with a new update that makes my experience worse than it was before the upgrade.
Just look at the Samsung forums to see people asking how to downgrade to Kitkat soon after the Lollipop update was out.
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You're right,
I had S4, Galaxy s4 battery life after the lollipop update VERY bad
It drops so fast, it was big mistake from samsung
Because the processor begin very hot after normal use!
That's why I would stay on KitKat it works perfect and the battery life is amazing
But that doesn't mean I don't want lollipop -,-

I have installed Nova Laucnher using Lollipop animations and also
Heads up notifcation (with c notice)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=codes.simen.l50notifications&hl=en
I must say with these two apps my desire for Lollipop is not as big I must say I have noticed a big performance improvement using Nova Launcher...
I recommend it to everyone.

blackinfinity said:
I have installed Nova Laucnher using Lollipop animations and also
Heads up notifcation (with c notice)
I must say with these two apps my desire for Lollipop is not as big I must say I have noticed a big performance improvement using Nova Launcher...
I recommend it to everyone.
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I confirm ,nova is simply the best launcher and i have it on my all android phones

Xperia Z2 Stock Android Lollipop vs Marshmallow

I've been using the stock xperia marshmallow rom for a while now and i have always felt dissatisfied with the performance. It didn't seem like a flagship device. I know its 2 years old but my brother bought a Lenovo Zuk Z1 recently and it has the same processor, same ram and apps were flying around so smoothly on it compared to my Z2. That made me so disappointed because Z2 is supposed to be an equal atleast if not better since the specs are similar and its sony vs Cyanogen. Although Zuk Z1 was on lollipop so i went back to the stock lollipop on my z2 and things are so smooth and fast. Apps open rather quickly compared to marshmallow. Is it just me or others are noticing the performance decrease too?

Have you perform a hard reset on your device lately? It might help.
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Yes you are right bro. I have same problem with my Z2 on Marshmallow rom

Z2 MM plain out sucks in comparison to Lollipop. Also many devices with the same spec or lower seem to do a better job at running MM. It's not just performance, but things like call quality and Wi-Fi have taken a hit, even on the latest MM builds. So much for the "upgrade". Maybe Sony is trying to make us upgrade our phones, but their software team is seriously lacking some skill here... I'm back on deodex LP and loving it! Can't think of a reason to update at the mo...
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SolidSnake1976 said:
Have you perform a hard reset on your device lately? It might help.
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Yes. I've tried everything from removing all the bloat to reducing the number of apps i use to not installing any app at all. I used the fresh rom for a while with just some basic apps like fb, chrome and hike. There are some minor lags here and there and even the settings app takes a second to load after it has come up on screen. On lollipop it just flies up from bottom and thats it. No loading time.

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Z2 MM plain out sucks in comparison to Lollipop. Also many devices with the same spec or lower seem to do a better job at running MM. It's not just performance, but things like call quality and Wi-Fi have taken a hit, even on the latest MM builds. So much for the "upgrade". Maybe Sony is trying to make us upgrade our phones, but their software team is seriously lacking some skill here... I'm back on deodex LP and loving it! Can't think of a reason to update at the mo...
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Good for you mate. I just like the xperia x ui and the now on tap, although i could live without it but i just don't like the stock lollipop or marshmallow look now. I need the xperia x look. And so i'm compromising on performance.

So far marshmallow has been disappointing indeed. Permissions are great but not much else. Decreased performance & poor multitasking, I would have rather stayed on lollipop until they fix the issues or perhaps use a custom Rom since Sony will likely stop updating the z2
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After using MM for over a month, I am back to Lollipop.. LP is much better at the moment.
MM might need more time. I hope future updates could make it better than LP.