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I finally had a bit of time to install the latest build of CM11 on my z1c this weekend. I've previously tried a few different ROMS:
- Stock rooted Sony KK 4.4 - too many bugs, not usable for me
- Stock rooted Sony JB 4.3 - works fine, just very hard to go back to JB after using KK daily driver (Moto X) for so long
The current build of CM11 for the z1c (as of this writing, April 4th) is really, really solid! It feels the way KK 4.4.2 should, not the hybrid, buggy Sony version! I don't mind not having the "Sony" apps (Walkman, etc) since I'm used to stock KK. I haven't done enough testing yet with the camera, but apparently it supports full 20mp resolution. Sure, you lose Sony's camera UI but I'm ok with that. Along with GravityBox I was able to get my z1c to feel like my Moto X (well, except active notifications!).
The CM11 build lacks Sony's bugs (the ones I had run into involved everything sound related - notifications, alarm, video playback, etc).
I highly recommend this route for anyone who has unlocked their bootloader and wants a very stock look and feel without Sony's bugs!
What about battery? Can I expect the same battery performance as with stock kernel?
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shotgunj said:
What about battery? Can I expect the same battery performance as with stock kernel?
Sent from my D5503
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Unfortunately I didn't use it enough with the other ROM's to be able to make a comparison.
Thanks for the fast answer. Camera UI and battery are the two things keeping me from trying CM.
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Unfortunately I didn't use it enough with the other ROM's to be able to make a comparison.
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Well lets say, on avarage, how long does the battery last? To compare please provide screen on time (seen from battery in settings)
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Well lets say, on avarage, how long does the battery last? To compare please provide screen on time (seen from battery in settings)
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I'll report back in a few days. I need to compare it to the same usage pattern I have on my Moto X.
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Unfortunately I didn't use it enough with the other ROM's to be able to make a comparison.
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I am with liquid smooth ROM and I have no problems with the battery. It gets me through the day with 40% remaining at the end of the day. This is with moderate to heavy usage: listening to music on bluetooth headphones, push notifications and a few hours browsing.
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I finally had a bit of time to install the latest build of CM11 on my z1c this weekend. I've previously tried a few different ROMS:
- Stock rooted Sony KK 4.4 - too many bugs, not usable for me
- Stock rooted Sony JB 4.3 - works fine, just very hard to go back to JB after using KK daily driver (Moto X) for so long
The current build of CM11 for the z1c (as of this writing, April 4th) is really, really solid! It feels the way KK 4.4.2 should, not the hybrid, buggy Sony version! I don't mind not having the "Sony" apps (Walkman, etc) since I'm used to stock KK. I haven't done enough testing yet with the camera, but apparently it supports full 20mp resolution. Sure, you lose Sony's camera UI but I'm ok with that. Along with GravityBox I was able to get my z1c to feel like my Moto X (well, except active notifications!).
The CM11 build lacks Sony's bugs (the ones I had run into involved everything sound related - notifications, alarm, video playback, etc).
I highly recommend this route for anyone who has unlocked their bootloader and wants a very stock look and feel without Sony's bugs!
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If you do decide to want the sony apps look here
[APP][KK][JB][CM11][CM10] Xperia Z1/Z2 Apps (Z2 Sony Entrance Added)
All working perfectly for me on cm. Only miss the camera
I know this is going to sound very much like a first world problem, but this phone is frustratingly ****. It is easily the buggiest, slowest, most laggy phone I have ever had.
I have tried just about all the LG based ROMS, only to find that each one, although not buggy, are all laggy. The lag is so bad that it gives my old S2 on Gingerbread a run for its money. At least with Samsung phones, you could get rid of the lag by using a AOSP ROM and it would still be functional.
To solve the frustrating lag issue, I have installed a CM based ROM. At first I was delighted. The lag was gone. The phone was now comparable to my super fast Nexus 5. But after a few hours, I noticed the same bugs that every other CM based ROM user has. Today, I had to restart the phone six times FFS! It is a little more stable on 777 Kernel, but the same issues still persist.
Has anyone achieved bliss with this phone? Is there any ROMS, AOSP or LG based, that are fast, (Nexus 5 fast), and bug free?
Don't get me wrong, I love devs and the work they do. Without them, my old Galaxy phones, (S1, S2, S3, S4), would have been poo. My Nexus 5 would have been boring. (Stock android is meh). I just don't understand why this phone seems to have so many issues. Help me understand why it is so hard to develop a fast and reliable ROM for this phone. I know it isn't from a lack of trying. There is heaps of support and devs working on various ROMS in the G3 threads already and all of them are very talented.
Is it hardware based lag or is there something else inherently wrong with the phone?
Thanks for reading and offering any solutions. I don't want to list the ROMS I have tried, as it will seem like I am an ungrateful twat to those devs that worked so hard. Suffice to say, I have tried all the popular CM/AOSP and LG based ROMS.
Stock 5.0 V20H fine for me no lag [emoji3]
I switched to note 4 whilst g3 was good I had a better experience with my note 3. So upgraded
-= Note 4 & Gear VR =-
hashcheck said:
I switched to note 4 whilst g3 was good I had a better experience with my note 3. So upgraded
-= Note 4 & Gear VR =-
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I don't want to switch so soon. There has to be a solution. I love the screen and size of this phone. The only other phone I would consider is the droid turbo, but it's so bloody expensive!
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Stock 5.0 V20H fine for me no lag [emoji3]
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Compared to what? Which other android phone have you used? In isolation, this phone is barely acceptable. Then, after you use a nexus, HTC or Sony phone, this phone is comparably slow. Almost unusable.
I can't bring myself to try stock again until someone who has other phones to base their claims on can confirm it is lag free.
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Compared to what? Which other android phone have you used? In isolation, this phone is barely acceptable. Then, after you use a nexus, HTC or Sony phone, this phone is comparably slow. Almost unusable.
I can't bring myself to try stock again until someone who has other phones to base their claims on can confirm it is lag free.
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Have you tried the usual tricks?
1. Swap out the stock launcher for something like Nova or Apex
2. Switch your keyboard to a 3rd party keyboard
While it does suffer from the random stutter, my phone is generally very zippy and does not lag.
Done all that. On stock based ROMS, stutter and lag is unbearable. My wife, nexus 5 user, even commented on how bad it is. I'm actually embarrassed to use the phone in front of people. I know it isn't a hardware issue, because AOSP ROMS are lag free, but not bug free.
Yeah, the phone is nowhere near as quick as a Nexus. The notification bar is also **** compared to stock Lollipop. There are a few tricks I use to improve performance on a stock rom:
1) Turn off throttling/thermal daemon via the service menu.
2) I use setCPU to set the phone to use the "performance" scheduler whenever the screen is on, locking it at 2.5Ghz.
Still isn't perfect, but it helps substantially. Obviously this is in addition to changing the launcher.
It's just one of those things. As you say, CM12 just isn't stable and worryingly seems to be going backwards, getting less and less stable with each passing nightly. The camera is also completely crap on AOSP roms. Nexus devices are great but the N5 is old and the N6 is too big and expensive. The S5 lags too, and while Note 4 is supposed to be good, but I simply won't believe that Touchwiz lag is gone without seeing it with my own eyes. Even if it has gone, Touchwiz remains the ugliest skin I've ever seen. Sony phones are nice, but they aren't packaged anywhere near as tightly as the G3, which is it's biggest strength: 22mm shorter than an iPhone 6+, with the same size screen. That's impressive. HTC's are just ridiculously large for a given screen size. The 1+1 is old now, and doesn't support all LTE bands used in the UK.
There is no perfect phone. Whichever you choose, there are compromises to be made. However IMHO the G3 strikes the best compromise available today, at least once running the latest Lollipop build and with the tweaks I mentioned above applied.
Had most 2014 flagships and G3 is deff fav so far, didnt have KK as updated to LP out the box had little lag after ota but common just needed a factory reset and all good since
Just a tip you can use on any android phone, go to settings, developer options, and set all the animations to 0.5x. This drastically reduces the time the animations take, and it gives a very snappy experience. It makes a LOT of difference, trust me.
No lag whatsoever here. Im running Chupachups newest rom with rin kernel. I've previously owned htc one, lg g2, xperia z1 and this phone definitely outperforms them all.
Ive owned the Xperia Z1, HTC One M7, and tbh id rate this better than both, i would like the battery life to be better my Z1 was amazing for that buh im custom stock rom and i dont get lag, everything is as it should be.
cubic25 said:
I know this is going to sound very much like a first world problem, but this phone is frustratingly ****. It is easily the buggiest, slowest, most laggy phone I have ever had.
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Has anyone achieved bliss with this phone? Is there any ROMS, AOSP or LG based, that are fast, (Nexus 5 fast), and bug free?
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Is it hardware based lag or is there something else inherently wrong with the phone?
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Because LL is still unstable and buggy? And so is any rom based on it?..
Stock firmware sucks because of LG's software - it's very badly written. Almost as bad as touchwiz is. (I used SGS3, trust me on that one...)
AOSP/CM based firmwares are better, but they still suffer due do LL newness. Wait till android 5.1, things may become better.
There is also a hardware issue: unbelievably bad heat management. They used 8974ac, but had not made any cooling system. No radiators, no heat spread throughout the case, and it's facing LCD panel - which is a very bad radiator. GG WP, throttling kick in, phone starts to lag, etc etc etc.
I think there may be problem with your unit... Try to send it back to get a replacement or have it serviced.
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I agree that most of the stock LG-G3 roms, Lollipop/Kitkat, if not rooted and without any mods, LAG is unavoidable. The case is, some people can't root their phones and most of them will try searching why G3 stock rom is lagging... if I'm one of them and I happen to see this post, I would feel bad and feel stupid at the same time why I spend money buying a crappy phone.
Well anyways, try Crash Rom v2.0. It is a stock based ROM like chupachups. The animation is not as fluid as CM but I won't say that it's lagging. Compared to CM, I have not yet encountered any bugs and mostly the camera is better. If you're interested you can also downgrade the resolution to 1080p, this will enhance your g3, 3d and 2d graphics performance.
Hi im all so on lollipop 5.0 updated out of the box and its all good maybe some lag not much to notice. Still no root method yet for stock lollipop 5.0 and i dont want to downgrade to kk so il have patience and wait for new root method for me g3
Wow, I went from the nexus 5, to the htc m8, to the g3 all in year. My advice, play with this one to get the phone lag gone. This by far is the best. Like a previous person said, turn off animations and change the launcher.
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I think there may be problem with your unit... Try to send it back to get a replacement or have it serviced.
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Can't be an issue with the phone, as it is lag free with CM based ROMS.
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I agree that most of the stock LG-G3 roms, Lollipop/Kitkat, if not rooted and without any mods, LAG is unavoidable. The case is, some people can't root their phones and most of them will try searching why G3 stock rom is lagging... if I'm one of them and I happen to see this post, I would feel bad and feel stupid at the same time why I spend money buying a crappy phone.
Well anyways, try Crash Rom v2.0. It is a stock based ROM like chupachups. The animation is not as fluid as CM but I won't say that it's lagging. Compared to CM, I have not yet encountered any bugs and mostly the camera is better. If you're interested you can also downgrade the resolution to 1080p, this will enhance your g3, 3d and 2d graphics performance.
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I'll give crash a go this afternoon and report back. Hopefully 5.1 ROMS fix the issue too.
dspcap said:
Wow, I went from the nexus 5, to the htc m8, to the g3 all in year. My advice, play with this one to get the phone lag gone. This by far is the best. Like a previous person said, turn off animations and change the launcher.
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Already done all that. Animations are turned off, launcher animations are set to lightning fast, CPU throttling is turned off. I've tried all the tricks in the book. Fact is, LG based software is crap, just like Samsung.
So far today, the lock-screen has only frozen on me four times, which is good.
I'm not sure if I'd rather put up with a laggy phone or a buggy phone.
My phone is currently on V20h. Apart from the occasional Home launcher crash, I've not had any lag that I notice of. The last time there was any lag was on V10i. My phone is rooted but is not running any mods.
Prior to this, I've had the Note 3 and Xperia S. Compared to the G3, I would say that the smoothness is at the very least, on par with the Note 3 running on stock.
I've seen people complaining about the G3 being laggy too. Is your phone by any chance the 2 GB RAM version?
My phone is the 2gb version, but I always have at least close to 300mb free. Sometimes I have over 1gb free. Not that it should matter though, as I have read on numerous places that the 3gb version lags too, and that both phones are very close on performance. The extra 1gb of RAM is negligible.
Just flashing Crash ROM now. I think I'm going to regret it though, as I much prefer the look of AOSP anyway.
Ah crap. Just as I flash the ROM, I read that the dev is stopping support for our device. Based on the comments, it looks like a promising ROM.
It is soon august in just 2 todays, I wonder will Lollipop ever se the light of day ? Lollipop have been delayed for soon 6 months or so,
Huawei get a big "fail" in this regard..
Just to make sure, I am not a beta tester I am a customer, which means it is not my job to be a beta tester and provide feedback to Huawei, it is their job to employ a team of "beta testers" not use "free working ants" who do there job for free.
Unfortunately it has taken so long that I will for sure think twice of ever buying a Huawei device again.
They are a good hardware company but their software lacks both updates and functions
Just compare with most Lollipop devices out there right now, even the latest MEIZU have a more fun looking look.
All the animations are boring as **** and non inspiring on Mate 7. On default settings the animations are very slow which make me frustrated, I have set the animation on faster speed but that on the other hand makes them less smooth.
It is sad, I really liked Huwei they showed so much promise for the future and did do so many things right, but it really feels they have forgotten all the million people who have bought this device it is not acceptable. By the time Lollipop is available for Mate 7 that Android M is already rolled out so no people will be happy when lollipop is finally available... cause then we are already 1 year behind again.
I`ll take a rock stable KK rom over a buggy L rom anytime There`s nothing i misss from Lollipop tbh and i ran it on the Nexus 6.
Perfect solution?
Nexus from Huawei
Actually I second gee. I have broken my LG G3, and bought a Mate. There is NOTHING at all I miss from the (battery draining) lollipop on this great phone.
Only thing I miss a bit is lockscreen notification - but NiLS does a great job here.
IF (when) lollipop arrives I shall update it - but I don't miss it at all
It will you just have to wait. The Kirin chipset is kinda different. See how it's so fluid for KK compared to other chips which caused some lags? Lollipop must have changed it 180 degrees hence it will need more time for optimization
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It will you just have to wait. The Kirin chipset is kinda different. See how it's so fluid for KK compared to other chips which caused some lags? Lollipop must have changed it 180 degrees hence it will need more time for optimization
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I tried the KK lollipop launcher it was really really laggy on my Mate 7..
Have yo tried Nova launcher? I have huawei y635 emui 3.0 kk, Nova works absolutely lag free on this low end hardware
Should be breezing on Ham7
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Have yo tried Nova launcher? I have huawei y635 emui 3.0 kk, Nova works absolutely lag free on this low end hardware
Should be breezing on Ham7
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I have been trying a few launchers this week because I am so dead tired of the apperance on the M7.
However I have not fallen in love with any of the launchers yet...this include nova..
I wish there was more multi tasking functions..
There is a app that is called heads-up which brings lollipop style notifcation.. I place these in the middle of screen cause this is very my thumb is normally.. I also use C notice in combination with it..this is perfect.. combo.. must have..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=codes.simen.l50notifications&hl=en
blackinfinity said:
It is soon august in just 2 todays, I wonder will Lollipop ever se the light of day ? Lollipop have been delayed for soon 6 months or so,
Huawei get a big "fail" in this regard..
Just to make sure, I am not a beta tester I am a customer, which means it is not my job to be a beta tester and provide feedback to Huawei, it is their job to employ a team of "beta testers" not use "free working ants" who do there job for free.
Unfortunately it has taken so long that I will for sure think twice of ever buying a Huawei device again.
They are a good hardware company but their software lacks both updates and functions
Just compare with most Lollipop devices out there right now, even the latest MEIZU have a more fun looking look.
All the animations are boring as **** and non inspiring on Mate 7. On default settings the animations are very slow which make me frustrated, I have set the animation on faster speed but that on the other hand makes them less smooth.
It is sad, I really liked Huwei they showed so much promise for the future and did do so many things right, but it really feels they have forgotten all the million people who have bought this device it is not acceptable. By the time Lollipop is available for Mate 7 that Android M is already rolled out so no people will be happy when lollipop is finally available... cause then we are already 1 year behind again.
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jeez man i hope u can sleep bcos you such inpatient..
You just need to remember that only 18% of Android devices has lollipop 5.0 not to mention 5.1.1.
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You just need to remember that only 18% of Android devices has lollipop 5.0 not to mention 5.1.1.
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But most of 2014 devices have lollipop yes ?
5 year old android devices are included in your statistics, and these devices do not even support lollipop..
Wow it is 5th August today and still no official lollipop release I guess people are just happy with a beta version.
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Wow it is 5th August today and still no official lollipop release I guess people are just happy with a beta version.
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Speaking for me personally, I am simply happy to wait for a stable release.
I just switched to HAM7 from a Samsung Galaxy S4 on 5.0.1. I would choose HAM7 on Kitkat over the S4 with Lollipop any time. This is in terms of stability, battery life and performance.
Not to mention that the upgrade to Lollipop on the S4 reduced the battery life drastically and only a custom kernel can make the phone usable for a day. And these issues were not only on the outdated S4 but also in the S5.
All I'm saying is that I'd love to have Lollipop on the HAM but I would rather wait for a stable version than frustrate myself with a new update that makes my experience worse than it was before the upgrade.
Just look at the Samsung forums to see people asking how to downgrade to Kitkat soon after the Lollipop update was out.
Peace [emoji2]
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Speaking for me personally, I am simply happy to wait for a stable release.
I just switched to HAM7 from a Samsung Galaxy S4 on 5.0.1. I would choose HAM7 on Kitkat over the S4 with Lollipop any time. This is in terms of stability, battery life and performance.
Not to mention that the upgrade to Lollipop on the S4 reduced the battery life drastically and only a custom kernel can make the phone usable for a day. And these issues were not only on the outdated S4 but also in the S5.
All I'm saying is that I'd love to have Lollipop on the HAM but I would rather wait for a stable version than frustrate myself with a new update that makes my experience worse than it was before the upgrade.
Just look at the Samsung forums to see people asking how to downgrade to Kitkat soon after the Lollipop update was out.
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You're right,
I had S4, Galaxy s4 battery life after the lollipop update VERY bad
It drops so fast, it was big mistake from samsung
Because the processor begin very hot after normal use!
That's why I would stay on KitKat it works perfect and the battery life is amazing
But that doesn't mean I don't want lollipop -,-
I have installed Nova Laucnher using Lollipop animations and also
Heads up notifcation (with c notice)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=codes.simen.l50notifications&hl=en
I must say with these two apps my desire for Lollipop is not as big I must say I have noticed a big performance improvement using Nova Launcher...
I recommend it to everyone.
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I have installed Nova Laucnher using Lollipop animations and also
Heads up notifcation (with c notice)
I must say with these two apps my desire for Lollipop is not as big I must say I have noticed a big performance improvement using Nova Launcher...
I recommend it to everyone.
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I confirm ,nova is simply the best launcher and i have it on my all android phones
I play lot of games and need good battery. Will use for two years at least.
These are my basic needs. Pls lemme decide between these two phones.
Scratching my head regarding, mmm, sorry to say again, SD 810 issues.
Am huge fan of cyanogenmod. Is oxygen os treating you well guys. Or cm with opo is better.
Oneplus 2, with modified thermal you can play games without aggressive thermal throttling. SD 810 rumors are exaggerated
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Migdilu said:
Oneplus 2, with modified thermal you can play games without aggressive thermal throttling. SD 810 rumors are exaggerated
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I am an aggressive flasher. First thing I do is root. Currently using moto x play. Will switch optwo I think.
Wanted to know the users experience. Marketing hype backfired oneplus image I guess.
Previous OPO, currently OPT owner here. I can't wait for the day there's a reasonably good version of CM available for OPT (be it 12.1 or 13). Reasonably good for me means things like camera and gps work at all times and common apps like FB don't force close. I am even willing to give up on fingerprint scanner even though I do (and have to) use password to unlock the device.
Once that moment comes, OOS is gone from my OPT forever. OOS on OPT is nowhere close to CyanogenOS (not to confuse with CM, but IMHO the two are comparable) on OPO was. Really, this change was a major step back software-wise. OPT may be a great piece of hardware, but OOS - in my humble opinion - cripples it and, I have to repeat myself, is absolute rubbish compared to CyanogenOS.
Put it in another words, if I knew how bad stock firmware OPT comes with, I would stay with OPO without any hesitation, period.
Thanks for the feedback. That's the dilemma for me. I know opo had great os. Unfortunate that they had to develop their own os.
Have to keep fingers crossed with oxygen os. I have heard that they gave two updates now and the devices have better battery life.
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I have heard that they gave two updates now and the devices have better battery life.
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They push updates monthly, but it's all just minor stuff from my perspective - bug fixes that didn't even bother me, for example some dual sim issues. I didn't have any battery issues since Day 1.
I guess it all depends on your use case and past user experience - for example, if this was my first encounter with Android, I could be easily thrilled about OOS. But, it's not - and I'm not. At all.
If you like CM badly, buy OPO now. Sell it and get OP2 when marshmallow is officially out and cm on OPT is stable.
You may feel that this is a bad suggestion but this is my honest opinion unless you are willing to use Oxygen with custom kernel for now.
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Ive had them both too. The OPO has a lot going more custom roms if that's something you're interested in. The OPT doesn't have much in the custom rom department yet. The 5.1 roms you won't have fingerprint scanner or lazer auto focus. But if you root and install xposed and a few of the modules and add boeffla kernel, i pulled over 91,000 on antutu. The SD810 only gets warm when i do a back-up, wipe and install all in a row. The firngerprint scanner is really convenient a long with the alert slider
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Previous OPO, currently OPT owner here. I can't wait for the day there's a reasonably good version of CM available for OPT (be it 12.1 or 13). Reasonably good for me means things like camera and gps work at all times and common apps like FB don't force close. I am even willing to give up on fingerprint scanner even though I do (and have to) use password to unlock the device.
Once that moment comes, OOS is gone from my OPT forever. OOS on OPT is nowhere close to CyanogenOS (not to confuse with CM, but IMHO the two are comparable) on OPO was. Really, this change was a major step back software-wise. OPT may be a great piece of hardware, but OOS - in my humble opinion - cripples it and, I have to repeat myself, is absolute rubbish compared to CyanogenOS.
Put it in another words, if I knew how bad stock firmware OPT comes with, I would stay with OPO without any hesitation, period.
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Check out pacman rom cm 12.1, there's a build somewhere near December 3rd that is literally perfect. I've been running it since that day and absolutely everything works out of the box, camera at 13 mp, Snapchat, GPS, amazing battery/performance, and Facebook. Obviously no fingerprint and laser auto focus but its by far the best cm rom I've used on this phone, cm 12.1 nightlies are getting buggier and buggier it seems and I've had no reason to switch from this. Use dualboot if you're hesitant
I am using moto x play at the moment. Need another mobile now. One plus two is impressive lookwise.
I was going through op2 forum. Seems buzzing. I ll be active here once I get one plus two.
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emelsk said:
Previous OPO, currently OPT owner here. I can't wait for the day there's a reasonably good version of CM available for OPT (be it 12.1 or 13). Reasonably good for me means things like camera and gps work at all times and common apps like FB don't force close. I am even willing to give up on fingerprint scanner even though I do (and have to) use password to unlock the device.
Once that moment comes, OOS is gone from my OPT forever. OOS on OPT is nowhere close to CyanogenOS (not to confuse with CM, but IMHO the two are comparable) on OPO was. Really, this change was a major step back software-wise. OPT may be a great piece of hardware, but OOS - in my humble opinion - cripples it and, I have to repeat myself, is absolute rubbish compared to CyanogenOS.
Put it in another words, if I knew how bad stock firmware OPT comes with, I would stay with OPO without any hesitation, period.
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Exact same as him and I can't agree enough. He nailed it
Gopinath15 said:
I play lot of games and need good battery. Will use for two years at least.
These are my basic needs. Pls lemme decide between these two phones.
Scratching my head regarding, mmm, sorry to say again, SD 810 issues.
Am huge fan of cyanogenmod. Is oxygen os treating you well guys. Or cm with opo is better.
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Oneplus 2 for sure. I also came from Mi3W. There is very less heat when compared to Mi3W. Recent updates in OPO has been and seeing the Oneplus forums flooded with OPO software issues. OP2 has been getting good updates and most of the bugs are cleared now. Go for OP2 you may not regret it.
Like how opo was at its early age. It was glitchy and needed a lot of bugs to be squashed, but it ended up being so good that it's still getting praises compared to current flagships. That could very likely be the same opt it's buggy now, but once it starts rolling expect it to be a beast also
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Oneplus 2 for sure. I also came from Mi3W. There is very less heat when compared to Mi3W. Recent updates in OPO has been and seeing the Oneplus forums flooded with OPO software issues. OP2 has been getting good updates and most of the bugs are cleared now. Go for OP2 you may not regret it.
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I was using mi3 for an year and half and active in miui forums. Lost it and got moto x play. Shall get op2 soon. Thanks for suggestion )
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Gopinath15 said:
I was using mi3 for an year and half and active in miui forums. Lost it and got moto x play. Shall get op2 soon. Thanks for suggestion )
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is moto x play is good device? .
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is moto x play is good device? .
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Oh yes. I thought 615 sd will heat. Motorola really did a good job. Doesn't hear you and giving a great battery life. It has exceeded my expectation
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OP2 is receiving prompt updates every month so far and snapdragon810 was proven tame-able with correct kernel setup and parameters (like Boeffla kernel for an example)
If you expect op2 to work great out of the box I would say no. But if you try to tame it by following guides available here, it is a bang of a buck for its price compared to other snapdragon810 devices in its era
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Dual sim needed?
Or
Custom rom and developer friendly?
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As a newly OPT owner (used it for a month now), I would look elsewhere for a phone at the moment. All the custom roms are crippled (can't use AutoFocus, can't use Fingerprint scanner), OOS is ehh (even with their minor updates), OOS has a slight lag to the phone, and battery life is only so-so. Don't forget there's no quick charging. If you don't need dual sim, maybe take a look at nexus 6p.
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As a newly OPT owner (used it for a month now), I would look elsewhere for a phone at the moment. All the custom roms are crippled (can't use AutoFocus, can't use Fingerprint scanner), OOS is ehh (even with their minor updates), OOS has a slight lag to the phone, and battery life is only so-so. Don't forget there's no quick charging. If you don't need dual sim, maybe take a look at nexus 6p.
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The person created the thread lives in India. Nexus 6P costs 60% more than the Oneplus 2.
After many years away from KitKat (2 years?), and a long list of nuisances (5.0 had neverending problems with Xposed, 5.1.1, any version, would close an app out of a sudden, and put my back to a sluggish, slow slow loading Home Screen), i took the decision and go back in time, and reinstall the golden - to me - version of android for the Z1: 4.4.4.
And yes its working fast fast as it should be with so powerful insides.
I dont know whats the problem with the newer versions, its not about lack of power on behalf of the Z1. It feels like memory leaks.
The KitKat isnt much different than every other versions that came after it. Tbh, the whole design got nailed down during IceCream and got prettier and prettier, but its essentially the same alot of years now.
What did i miss from 5.1.1? Quiet Hours. But i downloaded an app that does exactly that. I didnt even bother to root or apply TWRP.
Just wanted a fast computer that can make phones, play media, surf the Internet, make use of VoIP. !
I prefer 5.1.1
Well I have swayed a few times back and forth with 4.4 and 5.1 on my Xperia Z1, I've researched and got to the point where I realized the 5.1 improved this device a lot
Pros:
1. The battery life got a lot better
2. Precise multi touch up to 10 fingers (and more maybe)
3. Design is awesome
Cons:
1. There is some bug with the microphone, when I switch to loudspeaker during a call and switch back to phone mode then the other party will not hear me, so I avoid clicking that "Loud" button
So as you can see, for me there are more pros than cons in the update so I stick with it
I cant argue the fact that for you the 5.1 is working perfectly. Sadly for me its the exact opposite, whether its rooted or unrooted.
The 4.4.4 gives me all the good things the newer versions should give me, sans the updated interface.
Kitkat has slight lag compared to 5.1
On 5.1.1. Greenify is all I ever need off of root. With a little bit of "headroom" thanks to Greenify, I actually have my Z1 clock limited at 1.037GHz. Not laggy and perfectly usable.
i m on 5.1.1 and rooted with custom stock based rom and i dont have any major probs and no lags...m using my phone continuously(camera,watching videos,listening music,internet browsing,downloading files.) and m getting 1 and half day decent battery life i.e very good battery life. if i start using phone little lesser i may get upto 2 days battery life...
İ use Xperia z1 (c6903)5.1.1 .three days ago i uploaded mx rom v8.5.0....Normally everything is very beautiful but battery performance very very bad.i watching movie and The battery draining quickly.example my charge is %35 but later 1 minute %0. My english bad sorry.last month i try 4.3 jb and 4.4.4 kitkat.battery performance is perfectly.i want to back 4.3 jb...
I remember buying a Z1 for €630 when they came out brand new. It was so fast (I had been using phones like the first galaxy mini and iphone 3gs). I noticed even though it's still fast on 5.1 it always felt like it was faster using the older firmware for some reason. I have a Galaxy S7 now but I still own a Z1 too because I think it's still a really good phone, even 3 years later. I'm wondering whether to use a custom rom on the z1 and if so I have no idea which one to choose. The Z1 is a lot better than the first Z in terms of speed and battery life and I think the phone was ahead of it's time when they made it. It was the biggest upgrade from Z to Z1 than any other new Sony phone that came out after that in my opinion. You'd still use a Z1 now but with a Z you'd complain that it's going slow or that the battery is terrible.
As I said though before going too far off topic, I always felt that the phone ran smoother on kitkat than it does on lollipop. I have no idea why, maybe it's the ram usage or the way it reminds me of when I first bought a Z1.