I play lot of games and need good battery. Will use for two years at least.
These are my basic needs. Pls lemme decide between these two phones.
Scratching my head regarding, mmm, sorry to say again, SD 810 issues.
Am huge fan of cyanogenmod. Is oxygen os treating you well guys. Or cm with opo is better.
Oneplus 2, with modified thermal you can play games without aggressive thermal throttling. SD 810 rumors are exaggerated
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Oneplus 2, with modified thermal you can play games without aggressive thermal throttling. SD 810 rumors are exaggerated
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I am an aggressive flasher. First thing I do is root. Currently using moto x play. Will switch optwo I think.
Wanted to know the users experience. Marketing hype backfired oneplus image I guess.
Previous OPO, currently OPT owner here. I can't wait for the day there's a reasonably good version of CM available for OPT (be it 12.1 or 13). Reasonably good for me means things like camera and gps work at all times and common apps like FB don't force close. I am even willing to give up on fingerprint scanner even though I do (and have to) use password to unlock the device.
Once that moment comes, OOS is gone from my OPT forever. OOS on OPT is nowhere close to CyanogenOS (not to confuse with CM, but IMHO the two are comparable) on OPO was. Really, this change was a major step back software-wise. OPT may be a great piece of hardware, but OOS - in my humble opinion - cripples it and, I have to repeat myself, is absolute rubbish compared to CyanogenOS.
Put it in another words, if I knew how bad stock firmware OPT comes with, I would stay with OPO without any hesitation, period.
Thanks for the feedback. That's the dilemma for me. I know opo had great os. Unfortunate that they had to develop their own os.
Have to keep fingers crossed with oxygen os. I have heard that they gave two updates now and the devices have better battery life.
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I have heard that they gave two updates now and the devices have better battery life.
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They push updates monthly, but it's all just minor stuff from my perspective - bug fixes that didn't even bother me, for example some dual sim issues. I didn't have any battery issues since Day 1.
I guess it all depends on your use case and past user experience - for example, if this was my first encounter with Android, I could be easily thrilled about OOS. But, it's not - and I'm not. At all.
If you like CM badly, buy OPO now. Sell it and get OP2 when marshmallow is officially out and cm on OPT is stable.
You may feel that this is a bad suggestion but this is my honest opinion unless you are willing to use Oxygen with custom kernel for now.
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Ive had them both too. The OPO has a lot going more custom roms if that's something you're interested in. The OPT doesn't have much in the custom rom department yet. The 5.1 roms you won't have fingerprint scanner or lazer auto focus. But if you root and install xposed and a few of the modules and add boeffla kernel, i pulled over 91,000 on antutu. The SD810 only gets warm when i do a back-up, wipe and install all in a row. The firngerprint scanner is really convenient a long with the alert slider
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Previous OPO, currently OPT owner here. I can't wait for the day there's a reasonably good version of CM available for OPT (be it 12.1 or 13). Reasonably good for me means things like camera and gps work at all times and common apps like FB don't force close. I am even willing to give up on fingerprint scanner even though I do (and have to) use password to unlock the device.
Once that moment comes, OOS is gone from my OPT forever. OOS on OPT is nowhere close to CyanogenOS (not to confuse with CM, but IMHO the two are comparable) on OPO was. Really, this change was a major step back software-wise. OPT may be a great piece of hardware, but OOS - in my humble opinion - cripples it and, I have to repeat myself, is absolute rubbish compared to CyanogenOS.
Put it in another words, if I knew how bad stock firmware OPT comes with, I would stay with OPO without any hesitation, period.
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Check out pacman rom cm 12.1, there's a build somewhere near December 3rd that is literally perfect. I've been running it since that day and absolutely everything works out of the box, camera at 13 mp, Snapchat, GPS, amazing battery/performance, and Facebook. Obviously no fingerprint and laser auto focus but its by far the best cm rom I've used on this phone, cm 12.1 nightlies are getting buggier and buggier it seems and I've had no reason to switch from this. Use dualboot if you're hesitant
I am using moto x play at the moment. Need another mobile now. One plus two is impressive lookwise.
I was going through op2 forum. Seems buzzing. I ll be active here once I get one plus two.
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Previous OPO, currently OPT owner here. I can't wait for the day there's a reasonably good version of CM available for OPT (be it 12.1 or 13). Reasonably good for me means things like camera and gps work at all times and common apps like FB don't force close. I am even willing to give up on fingerprint scanner even though I do (and have to) use password to unlock the device.
Once that moment comes, OOS is gone from my OPT forever. OOS on OPT is nowhere close to CyanogenOS (not to confuse with CM, but IMHO the two are comparable) on OPO was. Really, this change was a major step back software-wise. OPT may be a great piece of hardware, but OOS - in my humble opinion - cripples it and, I have to repeat myself, is absolute rubbish compared to CyanogenOS.
Put it in another words, if I knew how bad stock firmware OPT comes with, I would stay with OPO without any hesitation, period.
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Exact same as him and I can't agree enough. He nailed it
Gopinath15 said:
I play lot of games and need good battery. Will use for two years at least.
These are my basic needs. Pls lemme decide between these two phones.
Scratching my head regarding, mmm, sorry to say again, SD 810 issues.
Am huge fan of cyanogenmod. Is oxygen os treating you well guys. Or cm with opo is better.
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Oneplus 2 for sure. I also came from Mi3W. There is very less heat when compared to Mi3W. Recent updates in OPO has been and seeing the Oneplus forums flooded with OPO software issues. OP2 has been getting good updates and most of the bugs are cleared now. Go for OP2 you may not regret it.
Like how opo was at its early age. It was glitchy and needed a lot of bugs to be squashed, but it ended up being so good that it's still getting praises compared to current flagships. That could very likely be the same opt it's buggy now, but once it starts rolling expect it to be a beast also
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Oneplus 2 for sure. I also came from Mi3W. There is very less heat when compared to Mi3W. Recent updates in OPO has been and seeing the Oneplus forums flooded with OPO software issues. OP2 has been getting good updates and most of the bugs are cleared now. Go for OP2 you may not regret it.
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I was using mi3 for an year and half and active in miui forums. Lost it and got moto x play. Shall get op2 soon. Thanks for suggestion )
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I was using mi3 for an year and half and active in miui forums. Lost it and got moto x play. Shall get op2 soon. Thanks for suggestion )
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is moto x play is good device? .
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is moto x play is good device? .
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Oh yes. I thought 615 sd will heat. Motorola really did a good job. Doesn't hear you and giving a great battery life. It has exceeded my expectation
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OP2 is receiving prompt updates every month so far and snapdragon810 was proven tame-able with correct kernel setup and parameters (like Boeffla kernel for an example)
If you expect op2 to work great out of the box I would say no. But if you try to tame it by following guides available here, it is a bang of a buck for its price compared to other snapdragon810 devices in its era
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Dual sim needed?
Or
Custom rom and developer friendly?
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As a newly OPT owner (used it for a month now), I would look elsewhere for a phone at the moment. All the custom roms are crippled (can't use AutoFocus, can't use Fingerprint scanner), OOS is ehh (even with their minor updates), OOS has a slight lag to the phone, and battery life is only so-so. Don't forget there's no quick charging. If you don't need dual sim, maybe take a look at nexus 6p.
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As a newly OPT owner (used it for a month now), I would look elsewhere for a phone at the moment. All the custom roms are crippled (can't use AutoFocus, can't use Fingerprint scanner), OOS is ehh (even with their minor updates), OOS has a slight lag to the phone, and battery life is only so-so. Don't forget there's no quick charging. If you don't need dual sim, maybe take a look at nexus 6p.
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The person created the thread lives in India. Nexus 6P costs 60% more than the Oneplus 2.
Related
OK, I'm buying a new phone very soon, so far I'm going with the HTC one M8...
But, the note 3 is only 40$ more which got me thinking if it's worth it..
Here's a comparison between the two in terms of specs : http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6074&idPhone2=5665
My only issue is I hate touchwiz to death... I hate it so much that I'd rather use iOS than using touchwiz and I hate iOS so much as well BTW, but still.. Touchwiz.. Uggh..
And that means that I'd be relying mainly on AOSP ROMs..
So how are they on the snapdragon model.. Are they as stable as official ? Is there any known unfixable issues on them ? Performance wise ? The Camera ?
And on a totally different subject, does it record slow mo videos ?
I can see it records 1080p60fps... What about 120fps on 720p ? Is it possible ?
Camera is not as good as on Samsung ROMs, and NFC does not always work, but otherwise the ROMs are as good as you would get on a Nexus device, IMHO.
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Camera is not as good as on Samsung ROMs, and NFC does not always work, but otherwise the ROMs are as good as you would get on a Nexus device, IMHO.
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Define "not as good" ?
Any major crashes or just overall quality ?
You may hate TouchWiz as i did, until they released a different version for Note 5/S6. While they're stubbornness to respond to UI/UX feedback from users is still lacking, Sammy did something here worth checking (i think it has to do with the fact that they asked Google for help).
The Note 5/S6 Ports are SOLID. Personally, AOSP is unmatchable to TW Ports in battery life, but they're better in performance though (most of the times). Please note that this is from my personal experience, i prefer not to flash every week a major system update, let alone daily.
Again, a Note 5 Port gave me 2 days of battery life with 5 hours screen time, consistently, with minimal modding.
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You may hate TouchWiz as i did, until they released a different version for Note 5/S6. While they're stubbornness to respond to UI/UX feedback from users is still lacking, Sammy did something here worth checking (i think it has to do with the fact that they asked Google for help).
The Note 5/S6 Ports are SOLID. Personally, AOSP is unmatchable to TW Ports in battery life, but they're better in performance though (most of the times). Please note that this is from my personal experience, i prefer not to flash every week a major system update, let alone daily.
Again, a Note 5 Port gave me 2 days of battery life with 5 hours screen time, consistently, with minimal modding.
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I don't just hate touchwiz coz of its performance... I hate it coz it looks pretty darn awful.
If I'm getting the note 3.. I don't think I'm ever gonna be running TW...
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so still my questions ?
if anyone's has been running AOSP roms for a while, I'd love to know how it's been going ? major issues or anything ?
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Any major crashes or just overall quality ?
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Poor low-light performance. Sometimes blurry images. IRS usable but not great. YMMV.
For system stability, if you are comfortable with CM, it's as good as is expected. Some builds and kernels are solid as rock, others a crash-fest. I'm very happy but others are not.
One thing to note, though, is that the next Android update might have issues, as a lot of the devs have moved to newer devices. Marshmallow builds are now good enough to use, but next year things might be more difficult.
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Poor low-light performance. Sometimes blurry images. IRS usable but not great. YMMV.
For system stability, if you are comfortable with CM, it's as good as is expected. Some builds and kernels are solid as rock, others a crash-fest. I'm very happy but others are not.
One thing to note, though, is that the next Android update might have issues, as a lot of the devs have moved to newer devices. Marshmallow builds are now good enough to use, but next year things might be more difficult.
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That's the things I care about....
Well, then.. No NOTE 3 for me...
Thanks for your help.. I think I'm gonna go with the M8.. It has a more active development community...
or wait, and eventually get a 5X or a 6P
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That's the things I care about....
Well, then.. No NOTE 3 for me...
Thanks for your help.. I think I'm gonna go with the M8.. It has a more active development community...
or wait, and eventually get a 5X or a 6P
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I'm waiting for the next Nexus phones myself. Recently got my son a Nexus 5 and realized how much nicer it is to have a phone fully supported by AOSP. Better camera and longer period of upgrades.
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I'm waiting for the next Nexus phones myself. Recently got my son a Nexus 5 and realized how much nicer it is to have a phone fully supported by AOSP. Better camera and longer period of upgrades.
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Yea, I just checked with the stores here... The 5X is available... But I really wanna get the 6P.. I might wait till its price drop a lille bit... If it doesn't in the next two months.. I'll just go with the 5X
You can try stable asop rom. I prefer CM roms. Its much much better than touchwiz roms
Ive been using the moto x 2013 for some time now. I was going to get a S4 or G2, I just cant stand how big the new flagships are these days. I finally ended up on buying a oneplus x. Ordered 2/29 and should arrive today 3/2....pretty fast shipping I think!
Im excited to try it out. I do like CM but going to wait for a stable official CM 13. Ive never tried oxygen, any tips or tricks to make it better? Any bugs that I should be aware of?
Thanks.
Enjoy with oxygen os . Few minor things are there but nothing which hampers normal usage. I wouldn't point it out now because then you will specifically look out for those issues. Enjoy it, its a nice experience and with oneplus team working hard on, it will get better .
If you look for customization,mod and seemless experience, we have dedicated, awesome developers who are continuousuly working on Kernels, ROMs and other stuff . I had not thought of this fast development for this phone. Definitely a great feeling.
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Im excited to try it out. I do like CM but going to wait for a stable official CM 13. Ive never tried oxygen, any tips or tricks to make it better? Any bugs that I should be aware of?
Thanks.
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Personally, I prefer CM13 over Oxygen. It's stable enough for using it as my daily driver. I've tried every rom available for the OPX and always go back to CM12 or CM13 by MasterAwesome..
If you decide to root, there are many options for tweaking. I use the blu_sparks kernel, tasker and secure settings, viper4android, xPosed, greenify, busybox, ad away...
My screen-on-time varies from day to day, but I always make it through the day with normal usage.
There are bugs on any device, it depends what rom you're using. Some get resolved faster than others, but there are no perfect devices.
I'm moderately happy with the OPX. It's the right physical size for me and looks great with the rounded glass. It feels great in the hands. I love having the sd card.
I have had an issue with the magnetic sensor tripping and shutting off/locking my screen repeatedly, but that was "resolved" by using a non-flip-cover case.
If I wasn't as comfortable as I am flashing and rooting devices, I probably wouldn't be very happy with this device.
When the time comes to upgrade again, I doubt I will buy another OnePlus. They have atrocious customer service. It's basically non-existent.
Cheers
I've tried so many ROMs and to be honest they're all great. Oxygen by itself is a bit stale. I recommend flashing Boeffla and checking out the configuration thread I made
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-x/general/boeffla-configuration-make-oxygen-fly-t3326054
As for what I prefer to run most, I can't really answer that. Right now I'm enjoying Tipsy with Blu Spark, AICP is great in terms of customization, FlexOS was amazing when I gave it a shot, Tameseks is really good and is probably my favorite implementation of CM, RR has the features, and CM is... CM. You can't go wrong there.
I highly recommend checking out a few ROMs
I'm running Tipsy as aforementioned and I'm loving it so far. The Layers theme is great, it has a great community on G+, and the features aren't bloated by any means. Just needs a feature to to display a memory bar in recents
Have fun with your new device. I love mine. As a matter of fact, its my favorite (coning from using a G4 for a bit too)
OxygenOS is fine. I have been using it since Dec 2015. It is clean and very close to AOSP Lollipop. I will stay with stock for official Marshmallow update from OnePlus. Hopefully the developers community will have similar AOSP based ROM available to play with.
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I've tried so many ROMs and to be honest they're all great. Oxygen by itself is a bit stale. I recommend flashing Boeffla and checking out the configuration thread I made
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-x/general/boeffla-configuration-make-oxygen-fly-t3326054
As for what I prefer to run most, I can't really answer that. Right now I'm enjoying Tipsy with Blu Spark, AICP is great in terms of customization, FlexOS was amazing when I gave it a shot, Tameseks is really good and is probably my favorite implementation of CM, RR has the features, and CM is... CM. You can't go wrong there.
I highly recommend checking out a few ROMs
I'm running Tipsy as aforementioned and I'm loving it so far. The Layers theme is great, it has a great community on G+, and the features aren't bloated by any means. Just needs a feature to to display a memory bar in recents
Have fun with your new device. I love mine. As a matter of fact, its my favorite (coning from using a G4 for a bit too)
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Well its too early to call for favourite ROM. CM13 is good but RIL is little weak on that. WIfi, mobile data issue. Its as close to daily driver but depends on person to person. Since all of them are close to pure android, It would be hard to pick a favourite . Btw right now I am sticking to OOs for manual camera mode, it comes pretty handy sometimes. Though there are few bugs, smoothness makes me happy. Btw I am rocking Boeffla kernel, greenify, amplify and xposed.
Thanks all for recommendations. Been using it for few hours and so far I like it. I do wish the size was smaller like the moto x but I'm sure will get use to it. One thing, wow is this phone slippery! I use to have nexus 4, that was also all glass but I never felt like I would drop it. Maybe it's the metal edge of the OP. Any good cases, something slim and light?
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I recently bought few phones and don't know which one to keep to replace my old 2013 moto x. I got galaxy alpha, oneplus x, and Z5 compact. To be honest none feel as good ergonomically as the moto x. The oneplus is nice, good screen and speed but a Lil big. The z5c is really nice but darn thing si hard to hold without a case. Just way too slippery. And loli on it not very fast in my opinion. Also gets pretty warm with light surfing. Not terribly hot but the hottest of the bunch. The alpha is good all around. Nice size, weight is awesome... So light! Speed seems good. My first time using Samsung, it's not as terrible as I thought would be. I switched to Nova prime and feels good. No SD card is a bummer but not deal breaker. It's also slippery but best grip of bunch without case. Screen is good but a bit yellow and not as sharp next to oneplus.
What do you all think, which would you keep?
Thanks.
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I am the type of person that nitpicks all the imperfections in phones. every single phone that been out for the past 6 months i have tried it. so i basically had a try of every kind of software. i had a iphone 6s plus but i felt that i paid to much for what i was getting. so then i was hesitating getting the one plus x because it said it was missing bands. but i was lucky to live in a area where lte is supported. i feel the one plus x is a well rounded device. and the community for this phone is pretty amazing. i was also coming from honor 5x but there was development on it yet. for me the size is not an issue i actually i wish it was a little bigger. alpha and compact i haven't tried them. but what your getting for in the one plus x is definitely a win in my book. if you think its too slippery buy a skin from dbrand or slickwraps. Hope i made your choice a little easier. @mario24601
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Personally, I prefer CM13 over Oxygen. It's stable enough for using it as my daily driver. I've tried every rom available for the OPX and always go back to CM12 or CM13 by MasterAwesome..
If you decide to root, there are many options for tweaking. I use the blu_sparks kernel, tasker and secure settings, viper4android, xPosed, greenify, busybox, ad away...
My screen-on-time varies from day to day, but I always make it through the day with normal usage.
There are bugs on any device, it depends what rom you're using. Some get resolved faster than others, but there are no perfect devices.
I'm moderately happy with the OPX. It's the right physical size for me and looks great with the rounded glass. It feels great in the hands. I love having the sd card.
I have had an issue with the magnetic sensor tripping and shutting off/locking my screen repeatedly, but that was "resolved" by using a non-flip-cover case.
If I wasn't as comfortable as I am flashing and rooting devices, I probably wouldn't be very happy with this device.
When the time comes to upgrade again, I doubt I will buy another OnePlus. They have atrocious customer service. It's basically non-existent.
Cheers
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I'm glad to see that you're having a positive experience with CM13. May I ask how battery life worked for you? — as I'm seeing battery life as a con for a majority of the ROMs available for this device.
I have previously used CM roms on my phones so I isntalled CM 12.1 by MasterAwsome right after I got the OPX. Of course like it , but encountered a bug in volume call. So decided to give a try to Oxygen OS 2.2.0 and I can say I am more then happy with it. Missed some CM customization but nothing I can not handle. On Oxygen , I encounter the bug related to the missing button to close all opened apps - I had to reboot to safe mode then reboot normally to fix it.
I use wifi on work and home, 3g and location always on during day, gps and sound while walking - and I can make it through 2 days before charging, since I watch videos rarely and as long as screen brightness is not set high (I set it at 25%). During the night battery-saver option comes handy.
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It's the best in comparison to any other ROM out there. 6)-7 hours of SOT easily
I'm liking the X more and more as I use it.
When I'm using SD card, every time I reboot, I have to enable SD card in camera to use it, is this normal?
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arukemo said:
I'm glad to see that you're having a positive experience with CM13. May I ask how battery life worked for you? — as I'm seeing battery life as a con for a majority of the ROMs available for this device.
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Well, battery life is relative. Some days i get 4 hours SoT, sometimes i can get 7. It depends on so many things: whats apps i used that day and for how long, the strength of my wifi/cell signals, screen brightness etc.
On some roms, ive noticed the battery draining very quickly even while not being used.
Right now im using the new CandySix rom and it also has pretty decent battery life.
Man this phone is beautiful. Size and build quality are A+ really good in the hands. Sound is surprisingly good for a single speaker. I also like the Oxygen OS as well. Call quality is good too. There are a few things though that would make this phone even better, and I bet if they had these features the phone would have sold 50% more than it did. They are:
1. LTE on all bands including 12 and 17
2. Dual WIFI 5 G
3. More Timely updates
4. Better Camera
They could make a Oneplus X SE version and have those features and charge say $279 Overall pleased with it.
There had to be few compromises. Yes the camera could have been better. But there is a version by sultanxda that enhances the camera. It is good.
Yet to buy this phone. Cannot wait*!
It is a very good phone but it is even more amazing once rooted and a custom rom flashed on it which you may or may not want to do yet. I think it may also be possible to unlock the locked LTE bands once rooted but am not sure.
I tried to put a custom ROM on it. Must have tried 8 or 9 of them. They would install fine but I would get no cellular data, I had no signal from T-Mobile. Finally just gave up and went back to stock and everything worked.
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I tried to put a custom ROM on it. Must have tried 8 or 9 of them. They would install fine but I would get no cellular data, I had no signal from T-Mobile. Finally just gave up and went back to stock and everything worked.
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That's interesting..I'm still thinking of flashing a custom rom... For now I use stock oxygenos with bluspark kernel, rooted. I still try to add all funktions that are missing for me via xposed and apps but for one it's quite some work to do and I'm also concerned of additional battery drain. My cell phone carrier is T Mobile Austria.
I'm sure it was just me, user error some how I must have missed a step or something
Wow this is strange. I just went back to try and flash Exodux Rom and this time it worked. I have data and everything. I have no idea what I did different this time to get it to work.
Sultan's HAL Cam makes this thing a goddamn iPhone regarding picture quality, using "Snap" Camera, it's incredible.
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Sultan's HAL Cam makes this thing a goddamn iPhone regarding picture quality, using "Snap" Camera, it's incredible.
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Not to mention that you can do even more with the camera from Color OS
This is the best $250 you could spend on a device really. Its perfect. No performance drawbacks or anything like that. The only things I could ask for if they made a X^2 is a bigger battery and a better camera sensor... Maybe an 805 or 652 as well... and maybe 3.18 kernel sources... but hey, I'm happy.
Regarding 5ghz WiFi... That would be awesome and actually, with an internal mod, should be possible. But even with 2.4ghz I'm able to go a far distance away from home and still have a decent connection that I wouldn't have on any other device
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Not to mention that you can do even more with the camera from Color OS
This is the best $250 you could spend on a device really. Its perfect. No performance drawbacks or anything like that. The only things I could ask for if they made a X^2 is a bigger battery and a better camera sensor... Maybe an 805 or 652 as well... and maybe 3.18 kernel sources... but hey, I'm happy.
Regarding 5ghz WiFi... That would be awesome and actually, with an internal mod, should be possible. But even with 2.4ghz I'm able to go a far distance away from home and still have a decent connection that I wouldn't have on any other device
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Agree. I got the ceramic version, paid $300 (onyx version would have cost the same for my country) for 9 days now and I'm pleasantly surprised. 5ghz wifi and a bigger battery are the only 2 things missing for me.
A cm based rom, not overly bloated makes it perfect. OxygenOs itself is not perfect but after rooting, installing bluspark kernel, removing some google apps and using xposed modules it's great.
If one is used to have a custom rom flashed, I can only recommend the xposed module gravitybox..lets you greatly customize your rom.
Thinking of upgrading to this from my 2014 Moto G that I got before Chirstmas as an emergency purchase. It's lasting me fine and running a highly optimized stock ROM very well. But I really want something that has more under the hood. Especially in the RAM category. I'm not a super heavy user in terms of how many apps I run. (I try to keep whats running in the background to an absolute minimum) So having the 'latest and greatest' specs isn't really a concern for me.
My only concern is the lack of the popular LTE bands being that I live in the states. I've been living on HSPA+ for the past 4 months and really haven't had much to complain about. Anyone care to share how well it does on 3g and the like?
I've been patiently waiting for the official Oreo rom, but now that we have the soak test and it's still 32-bit (I guess I shouldn't have been surprised, yet I am), I'm ready to throw in the towel and go custom. The 64-bit roms seem to get better benchmark scores as well as compatibility with newer editions of google camera (although Savitar's 32-bit Gcams are pretty solid and support RAW). But there are SO MANY rom options, I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed.
I've seen a lot of people recommend Pixel Experience, but after reading up on it I'm not so sure its the right choice for me. I've heard the most recent August update hurt battery life, and there's been some funny business about how Google Photos works- apparently it is the app from the Pixel which supports uploading full quality images that don't use your Google Drive storage space... except that since they aren't coming from an actual Pixel, they DO use storage space. And the regular option to just upload unlimited compressed photos is gone from the settings. This is a problem for me as some of the gcams I play with take rather large photos, and I'm always pretty close to the limit of my Google Drive space.
Also, I've heard the lead dev maintaining that ROM has moved on to another phone, so I'm wary of future updates and if current bugs will be addressed.
I'm not looking for bleeding edge or bells and whistles. Like I said, if Moto had put out a stock 64-bit Oreo rom by now I'd stick with that. I need the moto actions to work (particularly the chop flash light. Freaking most useful thing I've ever had in a phone. EVER), as well as the fingerprint reader. Battery life is important to me as well- it should be at least as good as stock. Any suggestions?
I've been trying many roms over the last 48 hours and have come out with some first impressions that may help you. The first rom I tried was resurrection remix, a mod a user made of the official one (downloaded it by accident and thought it was official, upon reading up on it the only difference seems to me armanian translation option or something) and it was OK. I noticed a few issues but it was good but everyone was raving about pixel ex. so I gave that a go. It is less feature packed but smoother, so very noticeable. Not that the other one was bad, but if I exited pubg mobile to nova launcher it was slow af. But was fine. Pixel experience is good. Its fast, fluid and with no issues. I haven't noticed any battery issues on it, definitely better than rr tho. I then heard that frankenrom was good but the download is down. But in the thread I found my favourite edition of the gcam mod for moto g5 plus yet, a very good hdr+ mod by bsg. So with frankenrom not working out I went to firehound. It was rr but a bit slower and overdone visuals. I went to rr again (official latest release this time) and I have to my surprise it was worse than the mod. I also found that it doesn't let my gcam work on it. Then I tried dirty unicorns for its supposed stability but was unimpressed by the light tweaking but still packed feeling (rr roms are good because they feel full of stuff and they are. This had the same feeling but just not as much stuff, not worth it). I'm now back on pixel ex and have no issues. Google photos works fine and both storage options are available. Battery life seems good. But I had some issues when it came to using xposed. After you install the modules and boot back up the screen doesn't display. Maybe the system less magisk might be better. It's almost a deal breaker, I love gboard but can't stand how it doesn't autocorrect in search fields and has made the mod awayscorrect a need for me. And in a rom with very little customisation it's more necessary than ever. But other than that it's great. Also it handles my bsg gcam mod the best so far.
All in all I'd recommend either rr or pixel ex. I'm liking the light and breezy feel of pe for now but will probably be on another rom my this time tomorrow. But check out the gcam it's got the best autofocus out of all the ones I've tried which I hear is a big problem for moto g5 plus owners. It's on the franked rom thread and it's urikill.apk.
I'd you have any more questions ask away, more than happy to help.
Edit: also very potter rom has moto actions, they'd be scrutinised by everyone if they didn't. And fingerprint gestures in the vast majority of roms.
64-bit custom roms is a good option. But I see you are more into stock stability, battery life, smooth UI, moto actions, gcam etc.
Dont go fully custom, just unlock and root.! install the mods (like cam2api) you want using twrp.
Moto has already taken a bad decision with a 32-bit oreo, see my point is 64-bit or not, if you are concerned about above mentioned things and as you have pointed out that at present you are satisfied with the speed and stability of stock nougat. Unlock+root+some mods might not be a bad idea as per your requirements.
Just an opinion.
Happy flashing.
Unofficial Lineage 15.1 which is Android 8.1 - I've loaded loads of ROMS on other phone and this ROM is great... no issues I can think of, great battery, great performance... the install instructions were crap but if you need a hand, let me know...
I need to say i had both Nitrogen and Bootleggers at least one week and both were smoothly great. First Nitro then Boot, in that order. But Bootleggers has a few more tweak options. In the other hand, i tried Liquid Remix only one day and was incredible with a lot of tweaks and very fast and smooth ux. Id like to hear some reviews about the three i mentioned.
Dishe said:
I'm not looking for bleeding edge or bells and whistles. Like I said, if Moto had put out a stock 64-bit Oreo rom by now I'd stick with that. I need the moto actions to work (particularly the chop flash light. Freaking most useful thing I've ever had in a phone. EVER), as well as the fingerprint reader. Battery life is important to me as well- it should be at least as good as stock. Any suggestions?
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Go with pixel experience July build. It is best so far
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rajeshkoshti said:
64-bit custom roms is a good option. But I see you are more into stock stability, battery life, smooth UI, moto actions, gcam etc.
Dont go fully custom, just unlock and root.! install the mods (like cam2api) you want using twrp.
Moto has already taken a bad decision with a 32-bit oreo, see my point is 64-bit or not, if you are concerned about above mentioned things and as you have pointed out that at present you are satisfied with the speed and stability of stock nougat. Unlock+root+some mods might not be a bad idea as per your requirements.
Just an opinion.
Happy flashing.
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Is it possible to have Portrait mode in the camera in the 32 bit Oreo 8.1?
kartiklohia said:
Go with pixel experience July build. It is best so far
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Is it possible to have Portrait mode in the camera in the 32 bit Oreo 8.1?
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Of course not,
but OP seems more into stability, battery life and non-messy user experience.
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Of course not,
but OP seems more into stability, battery life and non-messy user experience.
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OP?
Dishe said:
I've been patiently waiting for the official Oreo rom, but now that we have the soak test and it's still 32-bit (I guess I shouldn't have been surprised, yet I am), I'm ready to throw in the towel and go custom. The 64-bit roms seem to get better benchmark scores as well as compatibility with newer editions of google camera (although Savitar's 32-bit Gcams are pretty solid and support RAW). But there are SO MANY rom options, I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed.
I've seen a lot of people recommend Pixel Experience, but after reading up on it I'm not so sure its the right choice for me. I've heard the most recent August update hurt battery life, and there's been some funny business about how Google Photos works- apparently it is the app from the Pixel which supports uploading full quality images that don't use your Google Drive storage space... except that since they aren't coming from an actual Pixel, they DO use storage space. And the regular option to just upload unlimited compressed photos is gone from the settings. This is a problem for me as some of the gcams I play with take rather large photos, and I'm always pretty close to the limit of my Google Drive space.
Also, I've heard the lead dev maintaining that ROM has moved on to another phone, so I'm wary of future updates and if current bugs will be addressed.
I'm not looking for bleeding edge or bells and whistles. Like I said, if Moto had put out a stock 64-bit Oreo rom by now I'd stick with that. I need the moto actions to work (particularly the chop flash light. Freaking most useful thing I've ever had in a phone. EVER), as well as the fingerprint reader. Battery life is important to me as well- it should be at least as good as stock. Any suggestions?
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Go for AEX rom...its too good for daily driver and no bugs...almost perfect 64bit 8.1 oreo for Potter
rajeshkoshti said:
64-bit custom roms is a good option. But I see you are more into stock stability, battery life, smooth UI, moto actions, gcam etc.
Dont go fully custom, just unlock and root.! install the mods (like cam2api) you want using twrp.
Moto has already taken a bad decision with a 32-bit oreo, see my point is 64-bit or not, if you are concerned about above mentioned things and as you have pointed out that at present you are satisfied with the speed and stability of stock nougat. Unlock+root+some mods might not be a bad idea as per your requirements.
Just an opinion.
Happy flashing.
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It's an idea but I'm actually tired of dealing with trying to stay updated on modified stock. Everytime there's an OTA, it's a major hassle to update, or I could block the update notification and jump through those hoops to stay outdated which seems silly too. Also, I was holding out because I thought Oreo would be 64-bit, which has proven performance gains, not to mention I wouldn't mind one of the newer gcam builds which will never work on 32bit. Basically, I lost interest bin waiting once I found out the stock rom would never be what I wanted.
I'll also add that every device I've ever owned has run a custom rom (with the exception of a couple of obscure devices which had none available- those were dark times). I'm not uncomfortable deviating from stock, but I'm into stable and not experimental. The Moto stock was so clean however, this is the longest I've ever been on stock with a device capable of custom!
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Unofficial Lineage 15.1 which is Android 8.1 - I've loaded loads of ROMS on other phone and this ROM is great... no issues I can think of, great battery, great performance... the install instructions were crap but if you need a hand, let me know...
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Interested in this one. Loved lineage on other devices I've had. Curious why this option isn't more popular. For some reason everytime someone mentions it, conversation quickly turns to PE.
kartiklohia said:
Go with pixel experience July build. It is best so far
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But what about the Google image uploads? Do they work, and don't they use up your gdrive storage? I'm not so ok with that.
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Of course not,
but OP seems more into stability, battery life and non-messy user experience.
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Yes, but are there no roms that equate for stability battery and clean ui? Because I've had roms on other devices that improved stability battery and user experience.
Thanks for all the suggestions, I'm actually not familiar with aex for example!
also last time I checked there were some roms which didnt support dual sim.
Most users dont mind occasional hiccups but no compromise with basic functionality.
You should go ahead with Lineage, its not the most feature packed rom but then one can tailor cook with different mods according to one's taste.
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Edit: ..and yes my friend if u want to ease the process of unlock+root+backup etc. here's the link to the toolkit that will help you save time and (maybe) not brick your device with readymade codes built into the toolkit.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...olkit-root-t3605203/post72255202#post72255202
Kudos to the developer.
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This comparison video may also help you a great deal, the owner of the video has put in a lot of effort. Do hit the button if you like the video, my friend.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qNJMeXkVIM
I guess I am gonna go with the AEX - AospExtended, best of both the worlds.
Have fun.
Dishe said:
But what about the Google image uploads? Do they work, and don't they use up your gdrive storage? I'm not so ok with that.
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I don't use online storage. I keep my photos in local storage only. So that's not a deal breaker for me at all.
I'm right now using havoc is it is a great rom with great features but I think it is draining the battery a bit faster.
So I want a good time which is stable and the battery life is pretty good.
Any suggestions??
Fererio said:
I'm right now using havoc is it is a great rom with great features but I think it is draining the battery a bit faster.
So I want a good time which is stable and the battery life is pretty good.
Any suggestions??
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No ROM is bug free, once u enter modding/flashing world u need to be prompt in trying variety of roms so that u get tailor made experience as per your usage pattern. Try other roms and u decide for urself. Afterall all this comes with a red bold DISCLAIMER.
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rajeshkoshti said:
Edit: ..and yes my friend if u want to ease the process of unlock+root+backup etc. here's the link to the toolkit that will help you save time and (maybe) not brick your device with readymade codes built into the toolkit.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...olkit-root-t3605203/post72255202#post72255202
Kudos to the developer.
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I'd stay away from that tool - I tried it last month when trying to root and most of its steps did not properly work. I ended up doing everything after unlocking bootloader manually
Actually both that tool and the video in that post weren't terribly helpful. Unlocking bootloader isn't difficult enough to need a tool and the video was a generic rom discussion, but details vary by device and he was not talking about the G5+. Im already aware of what the roms are supposed to be, but his findings on that phone might not be consistent with our own.
I do appreciate the response and trying to help, though! So it sounds like now I'm leaning towards lineage simply because I think I can get around the issues preventing me from PE, while still getting the benefits of a clean 64-bit Oreo rom.
one more thing, do we tick all the boxes while taking backup through twrp?
Have been reading lot of warnings about taking EFS and Persist backup, so whether efs and persist should be backed up separately or just tick these boxes along with entire backup?
plz suggest.
rajeshkoshti said:
one more thing, do we tick all the boxes while taking backup through twrp?
Have been reading lot of warnings about taking EFS and Persist backup, so whether efs and persist should be backed up separately or just tick these boxes along with entire backup?
plz suggest.
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If I were you, I'd backup EFS and Persist both seperately and also along with the entire backup considering how precious these two partitions are.
Another reason I'd like to give you here to make a seperate EFS and Persist backup is for cases where you just need to restore EFS and Persist partitions and not the entire ROM.
Whenever you feel like going back to stock, just restore the entire backup back.
But that's just my opinion.
Dishe said:
I've been patiently waiting for the official Oreo rom, but now that we have the soak test and it's still 32-bit (I guess I shouldn't have been surprised, yet I am), I'm ready to throw in the towel and go custom. The 64-bit roms seem to get better benchmark scores as well as compatibility with newer editions of google camera (although Savitar's 32-bit Gcams are pretty solid and support RAW). But there are SO MANY rom options, I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed.
I've seen a lot of people recommend Pixel Experience, but after reading up on it I'm not so sure its the right choice for me. I've heard the most recent August update hurt battery life, and there's been some funny business about how Google Photos works- apparently it is the app from the Pixel which supports uploading full quality images that don't use your Google Drive storage space... except that since they aren't coming from an actual Pixel, they DO use storage space. And the regular option to just upload unlimited compressed photos is gone from the settings. This is a problem for me as some of the gcams I play with take rather large photos, and I'm always pretty close to the limit of my Google Drive space.
Also, I've heard the lead dev maintaining that ROM has moved on to another phone, so I'm wary of future updates and if current bugs will be addressed.
I'm not looking for bleeding edge or bells and whistles. Like I said, if Moto had put out a stock 64-bit Oreo rom by now I'd stick with that. I need the moto actions to work (particularly the chop flash light. Freaking most useful thing I've ever had in a phone. EVER), as well as the fingerprint reader. Battery life is important to me as well- it should be at least as good as stock. Any suggestions?
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try Arrow rom it doesn't have many options but havr useful rom unlike other roms they are in the place where they should be not consolidated in one place.
And rom is super smooth IMO its more smooth than any other custom rom and everything works smoothly.
Dishe said:
I've been patiently waiting for the official Oreo rom, but now that we have the soak test and it's still 32-bit (I guess I shouldn't have been surprised, yet I am), I'm ready to throw in the towel and go custom. The 64-bit roms seem to get better benchmark scores as well as compatibility with newer editions of google camera (although Savitar's 32-bit Gcams are pretty solid and support RAW). But there are SO MANY rom options, I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed.
I've seen a lot of people recommend Pixel Experience, but after reading up on it I'm not so sure its the right choice for me. I've heard the most recent August update hurt battery life, and there's been some funny business about how Google Photos works- apparently it is the app from the Pixel which supports uploading full quality images that don't use your Google Drive storage space... except that since they aren't coming from an actual Pixel, they DO use storage space. And the regular option to just upload unlimited compressed photos is gone from the settings. This is a problem for me as some of the gcams I play with take rather large photos, and I'm always pretty close to the limit of my Google Drive space.
Also, I've heard the lead dev maintaining that ROM has moved on to another phone, so I'm wary of future updates and if current bugs will be addressed.
I'm not looking for bleeding edge or bells and whistles. Like I said, if Moto had put out a stock 64-bit Oreo rom by now I'd stick with that. I need the moto actions to work (particularly the chop flash light. Freaking most useful thing I've ever had in a phone. EVER), as well as the fingerprint reader. Battery life is important to me as well- it should be at least as good as stock. Any suggestions?
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Go for Havoc OS (By Akhil_dev) without a single thought. I am using is from last 1 month. It is fast and fluid. No need to use any xposed module or anything else for any customization. It has lots of customization options built in.
I have a two years HTC U Ultra as a daily driver, battery duration and other minor annoyances aside, I am pretty happy and I don't feel the need of replacing it. What worries me more is the lack of updates for the last 18+ months, what makes me wonder if it is really safe to keep using it "as is". I know there are alternative custom ROMs, but I already walked this route with other devices and they just don't meet my needs, the overall user experience is worse and the unlocked bootloader gives me headaches with apps like netflix and others. What leads me to the question... is an Android device with 8.0 and no security updates since early 2018 still safe to use?
Thanks.
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I have a two years HTC U Ultra as a daily driver, battery duration and other minor annoyances aside, I am pretty happy and I don't feel the need of replacing it. What worries me more is the lack of updates for the last 18+ months, what makes me wonder if it is really safe to keep using it "as is". I know there are alternative custom ROMs, but I already walked this route with other devices and they just don't meet my needs, the overall user experience is worse and the unlocked bootloader gives me headaches with apps like netflix and others. What leads me to the question... is an Android device with 8.0 and no security updates since early 2018 still safe to use?
Thanks.
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If it is safe? I think it still is, thinking about some who still use android 4.4 to 7. It has of course more exploitable holes in system, but it depends on what you visit online, what you download, apps you use, etc. I think that with the encryption, the stock could be safer than the custom ROMs. I am on Android Q and is not as stable as stock, the camera is also not so stable. I'm using it because this version has better battery life and speed than stock. But that's the story with almost all phones with custom ROM, an adventure .
It is a shame that HTC stopped the support for HTC U Ultra so fast, so we cannot have all.
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If it is safe? I think it still is, thinking about some who still use android 4.4 to 7. It has of course more exploitable holes in system, but it depends on what you visit online, what you download, apps you use, etc. I think that with the encryption, the stock could be safer than the custom ROMs. I am on Android Q and is not as stable as stock, the camera is also not so stable. I'm using it because this version has better battery life and speed than stock. But that's the story with almost all phones with custom ROM, an adventure .
It is a shame that HTC stopped the support for HTC U Ultra so fast, so we cannot have all.
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android Q is better or 9.0 in terms of stability , camera , battery ?
and can we take any legal steps against htc to force them update the u ultra to the pie update as it has to do so as the device should have 2 years of updates , i think a legal case can be made against them
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I have a two years HTC U Ultra as a daily driver, battery duration and other minor annoyances aside, I am pretty happy and I don't feel the need of replacing it. What worries me more is the lack of updates for the last 18+ months, what makes me wonder if it is really safe to keep using it "as is". I know there are alternative custom ROMs, but I already walked this route with other devices and they just don't meet my needs, the overall user experience is worse and the unlocked bootloader gives me headaches with apps like netflix and others. What leads me to the question... is an Android device with 8.0 and no security updates since early 2018 still safe to use?
Thanks.
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i like the stock too , specially in camera as other custom roms doesn't support the focus of camera and the laser autofocus , but now i have a strange bug that the device tries to launch something in a fraction of second and then it doesn't open it . so u see that strange empty pop up that makes the device really bad to use , did u face it ?
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now i have a strange bug that the device tries to launch something in a fraction of second and then it doesn't open it . so u see that strange empty pop up that makes the device really bad to use , did u face it ?
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No, that didn't happen to me so far. The worst problem it has, after two years of use, the battery duration just sucks. It never was that good, not even new, but now I can't stay too far from a charger. I haven't had good experience with third-part replacement batteries in the past, so I am not replacing it for the moment.