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4.1 vs 4.2

I`ve read a lot of post that say 4.1 is much smoother and faster then 4.2. I've never tried 4.1 is this true?

Yep but that's my opinion, all the Devs will tell you there's been all sorts of probs with 4.2 and kernel related as well. Certainly faster but just lately 4.21 seems smoother then 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 . I've been using rasbean on my gnex and I lv it. The two fastest for me is bugless and baked!!
But I'll keep with rasbean coz its so smooth and great with Franco's kernel !!!!!
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4.2 adds features and not speed improvement, also 4.1 has been out longer so it has had more time to be improved upon.
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DeFcOn said:
I`ve read a lot of post that say 4.1 is much smoother and faster then 4.2. I've never tried 4.1 is this true?
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4.1 was pretty smooth and 4.2 lagged and glitches like none other for me. I am currently running 4.2.1 and it seems a lot smoother than 4.1 and gives me a lot of cool new features. Also I noticed if I restart my tablet everyday or every other day it runs buttery smooth.
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4.2.1 seems to be smoother

True, 4.1 also has better battery life

Depends on who you ask. I took mine out of the box on 4.1 and waited about a week to install the 4.2 update, and didn't see a difference in smoothness, performance or battery life. Since updating my battery life has increased a bit, but as it wasn't immediate I associate it more with the battery going through several cycles than the update.
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Personally I find that 4.1 gives me more battery life. Everything else feels very similar. I rolled back to 4.1.2 in order to use directory bind to play and store my large games from USB stick as 4.2 was having issues.

I love 4.2, esspecially the multi-user function.

4.1 was definitely smoother. 4.1.1 is best JB IMHO. 4.1.2 introduced scrolling bug (when you scroll through home screens and it doesn't detect swipe correctly but instead returns to previous screen). 4.2 was a catastrophy, 4.2.1 is slightly better but still 4.1.1 rulez...

I've never upgraded past 4.1.2 which is fast and gives very good battery life. The multiple users added in Jellybean 4.2.1 seems a useless complication with the price of tablets falling so fast. At the new $100 to $150 price range everyone will have their own tablet.

It also depends on the kernel with what settings and what rom you're using. I use PA 2.99b9.5 w/ m-kernel a28. And it is super responsive and great on battery life.
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they should make an update that saves battery like 4.1 and has both 2 notification bars and multi-user function.

There are a few ROMs with multi user options slim is one of them
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Roms running 4.21
i keep searching but cant find any? imm running Siyah with Omega 36 and Darky at the moment

NZ_Nitro said:
i keep searching but cant find any? imm running Siyah with Omega 36 and Darky at the moment
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Darky?
You mean a ROM by Darkyy who made a Darky's ROM for Galaxy S?

Need some opinions..

Hi guys, I'm currently using a GT-I9300 and I would just like to ask if N4 is a good upgrade? Is the battery life longer even when rooted and does the stock charger work like a charm unlike the S3? Need some inputs (software, crispness, performance etc.) Thanks a lot!

ickoicko said:
Hi guys, I'm currently using a GT-I9300 and I would just like to ask if N4 is a good upgrade? Is the battery life longer even when rooted and does the stock charger work like a charm unlike the S3? Need some inputs (software, crispness, performance etc.) Thanks a lot!
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If you root it and flash a good kernel than the battery life and the screencolors are much better. I run Franco kernel myself and i think it is one of the best kernels out there and gives you a 1,5 to 2 hours extra screenontime. But there are other ones as well. Best thing is to try them out and keep the one you like most. But in the kernel lies the biggest gain in battery and colors, not in the rom`s. And the N4 has no bloatware and gets updated to the latest firmware first.

ickoicko said:
Hi guys, I'm currently using a GT-I9300 and I would just like to ask if N4 is a good upgrade? Is the battery life longer even when rooted and does the stock charger work like a charm unlike the S3? Need some inputs (software, crispness, performance etc.) Thanks a lot!
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In my opinion it's a good upgrade.
Battery life is longer if you choose right kernel, people can get 5+ hours screen on time on wifi and 4+ on 3G.
Charger works like a charm, no one has issue with the charger yet.
Software is definitely better on N4, it's pure google experience, faster and smoother. No battery drain issue on CM based or non-stock rom. You won't notice any lag on this device.
Camera is a bit disappointing tho, if you took so much pictures with your phone.
You won't see any "not working" list or "known issue" on any custom rom here as long as it's android based.
Overall N4 is better than i9300.
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Just to add to all, almost every rom for n4 is bugless so you can try all and they will be for daily use. (maybe some exceptions there).
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Nethojs29 said:
Just to add to all, almost every rom for n4 is bugless so you can try all and they will be for daily use. (maybe some exceptions there).
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and just look at the previous Nexus phones they have longer life than any other main flagship phones from different companies...always get updated and development still going strong for those phones

For the sake of money I would say no: you could get some more battery life and stock Android, but on the other hand you can just install CM 10 for example and the camera will be worse.
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If you want to enjoy the timely Android update, then got Nexus 4, if not, I think there is no need to get rid of the S3.

I've been hearing good reviews about n4 and for me, my s3's battery life is getting worse (im on cm10.1) and nexus 5 is still due at fall (according to rumors)

CM10.1 vs stock firmware

Hi guys,
Today I flashed cyanogenmod, most recent nightly as I don't use the pen and apps provided by Samsung.
First impressions
* Phone boots longer than stock.
* Temperature is higher while screen in use
* Car is able to read contacts (stock does have issues there)
* Overall the Rom feels faster and more smooth due to less stuff running in the background
* NFC tag writer cannot switch off GPS
* sound allows higher volume than stock (finally can hear others via Bluetooth)
So far, phone is usable.
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These are the issues I have with CM10.1
1. Bad quality call when on speakers.
2. Skype is crashing a lot.
3. Lower battery life than stock.
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For Me issues so far
1-Battery Life compared to stock
2-Loud Speaker Sound is distorted and unclear
3-Some Graphical Distortion when sliding up/Down some menus
*-I don't care about about s pen or multiview or other samsung gimmick I rarely use them, but these issues are basis and annoying
*-Everyweek I can't resist flashing cm saying that these problems maybe fixed this week , ending always with restoring nandroid sammy backup .
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@all which suffer the "bader" battery performance than stock TW.
I know this is TW vs. CM10.1 but I also notice "bad" battery performance on CM10.1.
Also little graphic glitches in recents.
I recommend SlimBean 6.2 Weekly by Slimroms. It is a masterpiece on performance, battery and features. Really in every aspec better.
I m still on the first battery circle and have 30 hours standby, 2 and a half hour screen on time 3 hours Music and still over 50% left.
Maybe for the one or other a good option.
Happy flashing

Battery life confirmed.
Guess it's a good idea too collect all of the bugs and keep an updated list of bugs suitable for end-users

Picture quality using CM is way lower than stock, also, a lot of features are not available with CM camera, I know we can replace it with another Camera apps, but I think pictures quality are way higher and better using stock

I hope you guys are talking about nightly because there is not CM release yet.

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I hope you guys are talking about nightly because there is not CM release yet.
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Of course we are talking about nightlies , there will never be stable cm release for exynos until crapsung release proper sources .
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I think that will never happen any time soon hahaha
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It just amazes me that stock does cause troubles with other devices whereas cm doesn't.
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I am also runing (always) the latest CM nightlies on my devices and i have to say that CM 10.1 is bad on the Note II when compared to the Nexus line (all my ather devices are Nexuses).
Issues i've seen till now:
bad battery life when compared to original TW ROM
slow GPS lock when mobile data is turned off
no MHL/HDMI output (again something that depends on Samsung's willingness to open their doors to us...)
poor audio quality when recording videos
poor picture quality comapres to stock camera app
I think this issues will be sorted out over time. Right now i am oscillating between stock and CM because both have good features. On the apps side there are plenty of options so running CM feels great - even the S-Pen works correctly!

Hi,
Personally I find that the most customizable cm10.1 but they are also more intensive battery. Now we can customized a stock through the development of our mods.
Each has its advantages and disadvantages but I prefer a stock.
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[Q] Be real with me here... is Lollipop worth it?

I've read through just about every Lollipop thread on this Verizon forum. I'm currently sitting on rooted 4.4.2, happily enjoying some pretty stable performance and battery life thanks to debloating, Amplify, Greenify and the like. With Nova Launcher and all of the Material Google apps, the interface can be made to look a lot like Lollipop as is.
Given all of the challenges that have come along with the update (battery, performance, root issues, beta Xposed support compared to 4.4.x), can those of you who have made the leap answer one question with a justification as to why - Was upgrading your Verizon Galaxy S5 to Lollipop worth it?

Wasn't worth it to me. Played with a couple lollipop ROMS for a week and now I'm back to 4.4.4.
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If your not the type that needs to be on the latest version and your happy with things as they are now, leave well enough alone. Newer is not always better, besides there are very limited 5.0 roms right now.

You know the old saying "if it ain't broke don't fix it"! I haven't updated yet im still on beans Alliance rom and it run fantastic and battery life is exceptional so i don't see a solid reason to move on. This is probably the longest I've been on any rom but it has some nice customizations and i use xposed for a few things so im content. The grass isn't always greener on the other side.

I tried 5.0 but found that a few apps don't work on it yet. I went back to 4.4.4 and will probably stay there until rooting 5.0 is easier and more apps get updated.

For me I've given it about 2 weeks now, and i give it a big no. Mostly for how bad the battery life is and how sluggish it gets throughout the day. Going to go back to KK this weekend....

I have been using rom-v6-0-touchwiz-modness-lollipop-4-t3035513 and am extremely happy with it. you dont get to have Exposed on it but i only used exposed for turning off charging sounds and theming whitch you can do with the moar controls on this rom

I played with LP bit came back to 4.4.4 NK2 and NK7.
There were too many things in LP that I didn't really like, starting with the battery life. It isn't as good as KK.
Now I'm running stock NK7 debloated with the NI2 debloater and no mods but it runs the way I like it. And battery is amazing !
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While on lollipop, I had nothing but problems. My gear fit and g watch were both pretty flaky on holding a connection and Bluetooth would randomly reset for no reason. Battery life was horrid. I found that I didn't enjoy being on lollipop, it felt like my phone was just hobbled together. Back to KK and I couldn't be happier.
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Note 3 Kitkat Vs Lollipop

Should i upgrade to lollipop? my note 3 n9005
iv heard some draining battery issue :v

I have the same question. I feel good with KK rom: very stable, fast, battery friend. All apps works good.
I would like to try Lollipop, but read a lot of battery drain problems, no real advantages in performance, some compatibility issues for some apps.
Is lollipop really better, at this moment for note 3?
If yes, in your opinion, why?
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I ran lollipop since it came out and recently rolled back to KK. The phone is smooth and responsive again.
You wait hours to open the recents and the phone is simply lagging after 2 or 3 days of uptime.
The lollipop UI looks better and feels more polished, but the performance is a deal breaker.
I haven't had any issues with battery life, pretty much same as KK.

Until they fix the memory leak LP will not be any where near as good as KK and with M coming out soon they very well may stop updating LP for M and make a new polish OS instead of patching LP to match KK performances. ..I'm using arya rom v5.4 and having no problems yet but performance is not better than KK and recent apps takes way to long to open ...i do like KK clean fast and battery good audio is better in KK small glitches on LP ...it just doesn't feel like it's polished enough for a high end phone
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The only way that i'll use LP, is when they release 5.1 version. Until that i stay with 4.4.2.

I'm happily staying on 4.4.2. 5.0 is unstable, looks terrible and has far too many problems.
In fact, I'm still on NB7. Yes, Februari 2014. The battery life I have is amazing, I'm not risking an update.
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Which is more frienldy for battery? KK or Lollipop?

I would say kitkat has a better stability ,smoother and more battery friendly without you doing much tweaking. Lollipop can be as good as kitkat but need tweaking.
If you are ordinary user and do not care about updates, I recommend kitkat. If you are flasholic then most likely you will move forward to Lollipop and android M soon.
N9005 Rocking with Norma v21 Lollipop + Lean 6.2

In this week I will back for KK and make a root. Half year wothout root is tiring. White settings etc now are booring for me so i back for 4.4.2 and next maybe update for 5.0 but with using Mobile Odin pro and root permission.
Very irrytating is slow react proximity sensor when i set aside from the ear after call.

Only kk
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