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ICS or JB for Tab 7510?

I have been a very satisfied user of Task's GB and now ICS Roms. It seems, however that enhancements to his recent ICS release have stalled. There is some question if any further enhancements will be forthcoming. This is not a terrible thing because the Task "Beginning" ICS release is very stable. On the other hand, I wonder if there is anything out there right now that might improve the way my Tab performs.
With that in mind, I am curious if any of the JB Roms currently in development offer an improved user experience when compared to what I am using now. From what I can tell from reading other threads in this forum, most of the Jellybean releases for the GT7510 still have a few problems, (camera, WIFI, etc.). Is there anything out there that approaches the stability of Task ICS while offering some significant performance enhancements?
I am hopeful that someone with some experience using JB on the GT7510 can offer an opinion.
Thanks in advance.

P7510 owner here so I'll chime in.
For now the benefits of the JB builds don't out weigh the disadvantages associated with the bugs in them. My everyday driver is still the odexed stock rooted ICS. I have Nandroids of CM9 and CM10 builds to putz around with when a new build is built by someone.
Pershoot is going to start concentrating on CM10 though so there should be consistent JB builds soon enough. I would do as I am. Stay on ICS as your daily driver and just keep an eye out on the development scene.

I have been using Maple's AOSP JB rom, and aside from video capture and front facing camera issues, everything is so much better than honeycomb. The only glitches I have encountered besides these are minor screen flicker during boot animation (not during use) and extreme lag when using panorama mode (takes about a minute to process). Since I don't use my camera, this ROM is perfect. Battery life is much better (than honeycomb, at least). Don't have much experience with ICS. Much smoother, and Google now is great. Overall, unless you're a camera heavy user, and the tab has an awful camera, or like Web chats, really no cons.

I'm using this for 2 days now ,0 issues,both cameras work,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32074411
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Depends on your usage.
If you re a Skyper.... Jb roms doesn't fit you. Go for jelly bean ics v6.
Incase you don't use the tab's camera as most of us, and more of a media user, jb is yours. I use my tab for movies during travel time and for books. Jb rom plays even 720p mkv files smoothly. I've never got that performance anywhere.
Incase of stock ics go with a custom kernel with built in tweaks.
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dsafety said:
I have been a very satisfied user of Task's GB and now ICS Roms. It seems, however that enhancements to his recent ICS release have stalled. There is some question if any further enhancements will be forthcoming. This is not a terrible thing because the Task "Beginning" ICS release is very stable. On the other hand, I wonder if there is anything out there right now that might improve the way my Tab performs.
With that in mind, I am curious if any of the JB Roms currently in development offer an improved user experience when compared to what I am using now. From what I can tell from reading other threads in this forum, most of the Jellybean releases for the GT7510 still have a few problems, (camera, WIFI, etc.). Is there anything out there that approaches the stability of Task ICS while offering some significant performance enhancements?
I am hopeful that someone with some experience using JB on the GT7510 can offer an opinion.
Thanks in advance.
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I am one of those that immediately flashed JB AOSP by Maple as soon as it was available, but over the last few months I have grown increasingly dissatisfied with the rom. It's not that the rom is bad, but with the camera still not working and the occasionally bug/glitch that completely locks up my tab when I need it most, I decided a few days ago to go back to one of the ICS roms.
I first went back to Task 650's ics rom which I thought was great, but it seems that development has slowed considerably on that rom, and I could not live with the constant SOD's when charging (for some reason I could not find the "keep awake when charging" setting in the developer options that most other roms have.
So I flashed Ganborous CM9 based rom and I am loving it. Along with the rom, I flashed the Google Now for ICS package, and I also flashed a custom boot animation and now I think this rom is perfect. I haven't had a SOD (it has the developer option to keep awake), and I haven't had my tab lock-up or crash on me.
Once some more development on JB roms occurs (like Pershoots upcoming CM10 or even an update from Maple when/if he gets his Tab fixed) I may go back, but for now I atleast have a rock solid ICS rom with Google Now working.
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I'm AOKP ICS and my tab runs great, no camera's but it's a tablet and I don't use it for the camera. I think mine is milestone 4 and CPU set at 1000 Max 912 Min, I think its 912.
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I could love with the Job rooms if the rear camera didn't work because I don't take pictures with my tab, but not having a front came means that I can't use my tab to video chat or Skype.
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I was a task 14 rom user myself then I made the big jump to aokp milestone 6. Hooked since. My sgs4g is on aokp as well with working camera, love what team kang are doing.

should i update to ics

i want to ask u guys if i should update to ics
becuase i heared that honeycomb was better than ics
and ics is full of problem
such as the battery drain , some lags and many problems
is that true or what
and is updating to ics better than honeycomb

I have contemplated going back to Honeycomb many times, even as recent as last week, I've been trying to assess what features I'd miss from ICS and Jelly Bean (I'm using CM10) and apart from a few 4.x and up only apps, there's nothing to keep me there other than the "want" to be running the latest and greatest, I know some people say they had issues, but I don't recall having any when using Overcome 2.3.1 ROM and jumped ship as there was not going to be anymore development.
There's nothing stopping you from upgrading and going back to HC if you find that the grass, isn't greener.
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had that thought a couple of days ago, as well.
what keeps me going from JB to HC are the superb notifications, UI performance, google now, multitasking menu, FOLDERS. Though 3.2->4.x is more of a shuffle, than a huge leap, I still prefer to have something more or less latest and improved on my device

serzhanja said:
had that thought a couple of days ago, as well.
what keeps me going from JB to HC are the superb notifications, UI performance, google now, multitasking menu, FOLDERS. Though 3.2->4.x is more of a shuffle, than a huge leap, I still prefer to have something more or less latest and improved on my device
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+1
pretty much stated my thoughts
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Has Anyone gone from Task 14 to the stock ICS?
Is It worth doIng or should I just try to get Jelly Bean goIng?
Or shOuld I stick with what wOrks?
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Just a quick update, I've moved BACK to honeycomb, Overcome 2.3.1 to be precise, just for a bit, to see what I'd miss.
The fact that there is no lag in videos is a big big plus, and using adw launcher gives the smoothness of ics (big leap from the last time I used it).
There are little things like, Google now and as someone mentioned before, the notifications, but having completely lag free video playback is a blessing to have back again.
I'm going to stick with it for a few days, then test the official ICS, then CM9 and make an informed decision of which is better pros and cons etc...
Swyped, from my finger to your face, on my Samsung Galaxy Note II

Well i was with hc 3.2, i did the update ota to 4.0.4 ics
I love it, its more fluid, faster, looks better also.
I only root my tab, i dont play with the roms and stuff so to me its just a question of staying up to date.
As for problems, the only one i got was about the flash player not working anymore and this was fix by dl the flash player from market.
I think at the end, its up to u, make a backup, try it and if u dont like, go back.
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Hello, you have problem with youtube? i,mean lag or slow in some videos hd?
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Apop10 said:
Hello, you have problem with youtube? i,mean lag or slow in some videos hd?
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Not for me. I think it might be cause by the fact that u have too many apps running at the same time.
Try to install advance task killer, it will help ur tab to be faster
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Apop10 said:
Hello, you have problem with youtube? i,mean lag or slow in some videos hd?
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So far, for me and my little experiment, I have fired up YouTube after each new ROM and after the tab has settled down with updates etc, the honeycomb ROM produces no stutter at all, just fluid video, as soon as I go to ICS or higher it appears, however on JellyBean ICS 7 (i think that's what it was called) it is there, just much less of a problem compared to the others, but I still have to try CM9 to conclude the testing.
Swyped, from my finger to your face, on my Samsung Galaxy Note II

To be honest, I am using AOKP JB and I did not see the lags you are talking about.

Yes.
I updated to ICS about months ago, i really liked it, it's interface is kinda like the S3, except in tablet mode.
I didn't really see any battery draining problems, the battery was just like 3.1 or 3.2, so i suggest you update.
I used the official rom from sammobile, just search this on Google : P7500JPLPC_P7500OJPLP8_XSG.zip , and take the link from hotfile.

I've tried a few roms and the best HC from was from Task650. I then went to CM9 which was pretty good and stuck with that from for some time. Task650 then released a modified official stock ICS, this rom was very stable and pretty much bug free. JB was released and went to pershoot's CM 10 experimental, was also good but was buggy and experienced a few crashes and non working apps. Because of this I tried Tryptosyll's AOKP JB from and things didn't improve much better. The JB roms are great and credit is due to those developers but I'll wait until a more bug free JB rom is available. I've always been a fan of Task650 roms so went back to Task650 ICS, but development of this rom has not been as as active as his previous excellent roms. Right now for me the best rom for my tab is Craigtut's Fourth bar:Revolution ICS rom, again based on the official stock from. It's heavily modified and I find it to be the fastest and smoothest rom and is pretty bug free for my tab. Also there is no lag in YouTube and no battery drain issues. I am currently running this from with the latest Yoda kernel with CPU running in interactive mode and over clocked up to 1.2GHz.

Need some opinions..

Hi guys, I'm currently using a GT-I9300 and I would just like to ask if N4 is a good upgrade? Is the battery life longer even when rooted and does the stock charger work like a charm unlike the S3? Need some inputs (software, crispness, performance etc.) Thanks a lot!

ickoicko said:
Hi guys, I'm currently using a GT-I9300 and I would just like to ask if N4 is a good upgrade? Is the battery life longer even when rooted and does the stock charger work like a charm unlike the S3? Need some inputs (software, crispness, performance etc.) Thanks a lot!
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If you root it and flash a good kernel than the battery life and the screencolors are much better. I run Franco kernel myself and i think it is one of the best kernels out there and gives you a 1,5 to 2 hours extra screenontime. But there are other ones as well. Best thing is to try them out and keep the one you like most. But in the kernel lies the biggest gain in battery and colors, not in the rom`s. And the N4 has no bloatware and gets updated to the latest firmware first.

ickoicko said:
Hi guys, I'm currently using a GT-I9300 and I would just like to ask if N4 is a good upgrade? Is the battery life longer even when rooted and does the stock charger work like a charm unlike the S3? Need some inputs (software, crispness, performance etc.) Thanks a lot!
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In my opinion it's a good upgrade.
Battery life is longer if you choose right kernel, people can get 5+ hours screen on time on wifi and 4+ on 3G.
Charger works like a charm, no one has issue with the charger yet.
Software is definitely better on N4, it's pure google experience, faster and smoother. No battery drain issue on CM based or non-stock rom. You won't notice any lag on this device.
Camera is a bit disappointing tho, if you took so much pictures with your phone.
You won't see any "not working" list or "known issue" on any custom rom here as long as it's android based.
Overall N4 is better than i9300.
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Just to add to all, almost every rom for n4 is bugless so you can try all and they will be for daily use. (maybe some exceptions there).
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Nethojs29 said:
Just to add to all, almost every rom for n4 is bugless so you can try all and they will be for daily use. (maybe some exceptions there).
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and just look at the previous Nexus phones they have longer life than any other main flagship phones from different companies...always get updated and development still going strong for those phones

For the sake of money I would say no: you could get some more battery life and stock Android, but on the other hand you can just install CM 10 for example and the camera will be worse.
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If you want to enjoy the timely Android update, then got Nexus 4, if not, I think there is no need to get rid of the S3.

I've been hearing good reviews about n4 and for me, my s3's battery life is getting worse (im on cm10.1) and nexus 5 is still due at fall (according to rumors)

What Rom are you currently using ?

Exciting times are ahead of us, the big Rom developers are already making a Rom and new Roms are coming by daily basis it seems.
In this topic we can talk about what Rom we are currently using and what our thoughts are about it.

I'm still using stock oppo Rom, I had a few problems with flashing a new Rom so I gave up.
I will try again in the future, but I'm not sure what Rom I should install.
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The cm10 nightlies!
It works perfectly for me, only issue i have is battery life.... I think its even worse than with stock fw....
But considering how far the developers have come in such a short time one can't complain really
I 'm way happier than with my previous s3!
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Just installed PAC-man ROM, and must say i'm very happy with it, fast, nice features and they are updating regularly.

PA all the way! So far I've had zero issues (besides the nonfunctional camera) with the alpha build. In fact, I've been averaging up to an hour more screen on time. Its pretty awesome!
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been running CM10.1 for the past couple days.. no problems but no camera.
kinda hope they update so you can adjust the drawer layout. i hate the 4x4 grid pattern

im running stock rooted waiting for cm 10.1 to fix the camera and the battery life. i have aokp on my galaxy s3 so im kind of an anti-stock user.

:victory: happy with Pac Rom , super smooth and camera all working now ( HDR , Recorder , front camera) . I recommend this because It drains less battery than stock . Best rom until FireFly Project done.

CM Nightles. The only rom that has the camera working. My battery life increased considerably. I'm at 12 hours at 10% with screen on for a little over 3 hours. Looked at the battery half way through the day and found a widget NOM NOM NOM on my battery so uninstalled it at 50% so the battery life is even better.
Stock rom has an issue that I can't live with. Submitting a bug report/feature change on OPPO forums to resolve this. On OEM rom and the phone on Tmo, the radio drops DCH/HSPA+42 quickly versus giving it a little timeout period before scaling out. This coupled with semi aggressive power management keep apps like Spotify from streaming consistently without the screen awake and some additional source of data to keep the phone fully ramped up. It does not exhibit this under CM. Love the phone actually enjoyed the OEM software but I use a lot of my battery life for music consumption. Oppo will get it resolved though. TONS of faith in them based on feedback taken and given.

Latest stock firmware on the weekends and Firefly betas during the week!
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I´m on Paranoid Android for Find 5

Latest Build of firefly beta
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Can anyone confirm if Easy Cover is working as it should on custom roms (tried on cm nightlies and it just wakes the phone but dont lock it)

I just loaded ReVolt last evening and it's quite nice. No major issues thus far either. I am a big fan of CM, and find that this has all the options I miss from a fledgling ROM like Oppo's. In time they'll get there.

PAC Rom nightlys. Woking great so far

Latest firefly "ïnternational" beta
I would call it more like an alpha since is 25% or more chinese, stable enough(few freezes), damn pretty but that's all good things about it.
Oppo still didn't fixed the main bugs on this phone like camera autofocus, poor performance in low light and image stabilization, plus the main functions of the phone that shouldn't be bad from start.

CM nightly only.
CM10.1/Oppo Find 5

I am still on the older stock rom, since the last and final update seems
to deal more damage than good.
Still fighting with myself if I should upgrade to Color ROM. Can you guys
recommend it? I am not interested in the newest features, but an
increase of stability would be very welcomed.

Maxwens aokp.
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webbles17 said:
Maxwens aokp.
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CM 10.1 with maxwen Kernel

Should i update to 4.3

Is it better than 4.1.2?

Yes.

mixed nuts said:
Is it better than 4.1.2?
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Definitely YES.

if you have to ask then i wouldn't. i don't gain anything over a good 4.1.2 rom in my opinion. i don't use all the spen features, the battery is the same, and i miss the dark email color. i don't use touchwiz, and other than a new settings menu i couldn't tell any difference from a customer 4.1.2 with perseus kernel.

After a month of usage, here are my impressions:
Firstly, my N2 has Never been rooted- though I did have that 'Your phone has been modified; cannot update' bug. Yet, when the firmware was available OTA, it updated fine.
After 2 days of fooling around, memory usage didn't seem stable so I formated my phone.
Likes:
1. I can move some apps to SD. I'm a big media user & space is important.
2. Some integrated apps can be turned off. Maybe a minimal option, but welcome nonetheless.
3. Battery & memory optimization appears somewhat improved. I think apps open quicker & my media in the Gallery refresh faster- though this could be all in my head.
4. Sometimes I use Samsung's default Video Player & now a Samsung Link icon is present during playback- it's quite useful to quickly stream the content I'm watching to my Smart TV.
Dislikes:
1. Wakeup, turning on the phone, & restarting appears 2 seconds longer.
2. On low battery, I cannot manually adjust screen brightness.
3. The Video Player content list is now a blinding white background, unlike the Gallery which is black. (Don't understand why there isn't a option to change to a 'dark theme.')
4. New apps preloaded like Knox which I have no intention of running/using.
In closing, I do not use Touchwiz (on Nova), the default music app, the camera app, & yet to own a Gear device- so no impressions here.
I updated because I know the Note 2 is a VERY capable phone in terms of its hardware- I love this phone, no firmware will bring it down. I'll look forward to some decent software improvements when Kitkat hits.

yes
Yes worth it =)

Yes, Ofcourse..

Yes, 4.3 is great
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No, 10h of screen with a slim 4.1.2 rom and only 6h with the slimer 4.3 rom...
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go for 4.4.2

If battery is important 4.1.2 is way better. Being flashoholic i have tried everything and i cant find nothing beyond 4.1.2 with better battery. I have ancient nand backup from august last year with sotmax v10 and perseus kernel, its loaded with apps, and it smooth fast and efficient. Yeah newer roms are less clunky with few extra perks, but to me battery i get with older roms is much more satisfying.

Yes, 4.3 is good

yes
yes upgrade.. bether performance an longer power time..

berkos said:
If battery is important 4.1.2 is way better. Being flashoholic i have tried everything and i cant find nothing beyond 4.1.2 with better battery. I have ancient nand backup from august last year with sotmax v10 and perseus kernel, its loaded with apps, and it smooth fast and efficient. Yeah newer roms are less clunky with few extra perks, but to me battery i get with older roms is much more satisfying.
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+1 I don't know why people keep saying 4.3 has better battery , I had 4.3 rom and I also reverted to 4.1.2 because the battery is better .
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