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Was just wondering.....
Kind of late to be upgrading
But I don't exactly own the phone.
Should I upgrade?
Will there be any issues with the apps / games?
Is there any new good functionality?
And I will be upgrading via Kies cause the phone isn't mine so will I be losing and Calendar Entries?
I know I won't lose contacts or apps....
Just worried about Calendar Entries.
ICS n GB really not much differences,ICS battery life shorter,unless you take the troblesom to do flash.
Better wait for Jelly Bean 4.1
no you should not . i m on ics but if i find enough energy and time i will go back to gb. ics on note is just gb with shorter battery life. paranoid is a good rom with very good hybrid features i liked it but because cm9 doesnt run an app that i have to run i had to quit using it . you can try it.
There are some superb ICS custom roms out there, but I try them out, even trying Stock ICS now, but at the end of the day GB is just so dam fast and battery life is amazing compared, all your miss is swipe to remove a single notification, a few extra Widgets and the odd setting...I suppose GB took a while to get to the good state its in now, perhaps when JellyBean arrives ICS will have evolved into a faster more battery friendly state...
My advise stay with GB
To be frank. I don't see a shorter battery life and I use my device constantly.
Ive usually drained the battery about 5 to 6 hours from a full charge.
I have Facebook, instagram, 4 gmail accounts (on push) and whatsapp.
yup ICS is faster in terms of response.... but also faster in draining battery
I would go back to gb if i could. I had no complaints on gingerbread ive found ics to have a less stable wifi connection and im not overly keen on the changes theyve made to task manager and the settings menu. I see little to no improvement overall and im sure my wifi is less stable i googled it and im not alone.
So keep it on gingerbread sell it in september and get the galaxy note2 running jellybean. Mine will be up for sale soon.
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Ts, I have the same thoughts as you 2 months back. Frankly, gb is Good enough but I am itchy hand type, So go ahead with Ics, root and other stuff....Hahaha...that's what thus forum is for right?
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I guess depending upon all your reviews I will wait for JellyBean....
Does anybody know when Jellybean is coming out?
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Does anybody know when Jellybean is coming out?
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It's unknown, although unlikely that there will be an official release of 4.1. There will certainly be some 4.1 unofficial ROMs made available at some point though (I'm not sure the source is even officially out yet).
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There's really no compelling reason to upgrade to ICS, but I wouldn't go back to GB.
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I m sticking with gb as well, tried a few ics rom and they have all got different problrms.
I ll probably never going to upgrade to jelly bean since there is no flash support. Need flash til the other end of the world change....
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When my OTA notice (Samsung ICS touchwiz LPY) came in 1- 2 months back , I OTAed while watching TV. Easy as pie. ICS has been fine, better that GB in most ways but cleaner but minor upgrade, I like the new pen stuff, that I can use Photoshop and ICS apps and my battery life is fine. My only problem is the bug with my Samsung Car Dock, which freezes when I plug it in and have the phone horizontally but again my battery life is so good, I do not charge in the car. While I use the Samsung pen touchwiz stuff and am happy with the official toucheiz ICS, I would jump in a second to a pure ICS if Jelly bean was in since I love any kind of voice recognition stuff ( use vlingo and skyvi now) and the Google Voice/Google Now stuff has been rated as great and a game changer.
So while here at XDA it is all about odin, instructions and roms - which is fine - I can tell you that just straight OTA from Samsung touchwiz/ICS is easy and fine too ( at least for me and many others).
If you feel yourself wanting to get a smoother and faster experience at the cost of battery-life I would.
Just a note of caution though.
DO NOT FLASH STOCK ICS Chances are that at some period you will brick your note unless you flash another kernel (ie. franco kernel), because of the Samsung superbrick (or eMMc) bug.
If you are comfortable flashing custom ROMs I'd highly recommend using Paranoid Android. I am currently using it, and have had few to no issues with it. And with light/moderate usage, it still lasts me a day and a half or two between charges.
OK, updated to ICS via Kies a couple of days ago, and have tried it since. The battery life issue is a deal killer for me, and whatever extra features there are still does not make it better than Gingerbread overall. Can someone please point me to a thread or tutorial for rolling back to stock Gingerbread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
It has all stock ROMs and instructions in the second post.
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gingerbread is best suitable for my note will never update to any ics version as i recently got a emmc bug when updated to ics through ota and my motherboard is needed to be replaced.. now in my note with new motherboard i got preinstalled gb and will stick to it forever
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Ranafram said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997
It has all stock ROMs and instructions in the second post.
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Thank you.
You should.
Chrome works on it
So i just bought a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 with ICS 4.0.3. After a few days i have to say that the experience is terrifying and using the tab now feels like torture. The UI is so massively stuttering and laggy that my eyes are hurting after 10 minutes. Be it web-browsing with all kind of browsers or using facebook or just searching through the menus,... and the worst stutter is in Play Store.
I know that JB is supposed bring the smoothness to a near iDevices-level. I used a JB Transformer Prime before. It is super smooth and is worlds apart from an ICS Transformer Prime. But the Prime has Tegra 3 while the Galaxy Tab 2 has only Tegra 2. The experience with the tab 2 was so horrible that I'm afraid that even JB won't be able to save it.
I was about to return the tab so i don't really want to install an (incomplete) custom JB on it and then have to restore it to stock state. Because as i said, i fear JB is not enough. So anyone who has installed JB on the tab 2 please share your experience with me? If JB is really that great i may give it a try anyway.
Thank you very much!
Even the update from 4.0.3 to 4.0.4 was a big improvement IMO for the stock software. I haven't tested out the JB OTA leak, but I do know that AOSP/CM10 Jelly Bean works really well on my 7" tablet.
With aokp,lag dessaperaed
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I just upgraded to 4.0.4. It is indeed a minor improvement over 4.0.3 although not as much as I hoped. The UI is still very stuttering and spiky. Sometimes even unresponsive. I guess I will just have to return it. Sadly I like most of Samsung product. But I will have to go for a transformer prime or infinity.
Did you turn off power saving?
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Running cm or aokp makes a huge difference. Its the fastest it will ever be with it. With stock its clearly the slowest it will ever be. Some roms that are based on stock but trimmed down are fast. Check around and do some research.
Remember, you can always go back if you don't like it.
I just installed the jb leak. Extremely smooth.
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I just installed the jb leak. Extremely smooth.
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I had 4.0.3 too on my tab2, and what you said it all did got them but after i installed jb it went realy fast !
Try aokp build 4 or cm10 from www.teamhacksung.org
No stutter at all, i use it now
But make a nandroid backup first
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The galaxy tab 2 is not a tegra device. It uses a TI OMAP processor which is completely open rather than a closed and proprietary nvidia tegra. That's where there are already jellybean roms out for it if you want to flash them.
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I have the 7" tab and with 4.0.3 I had the same experience as OP, but JB leak cured that.
I tried CM10 first, very smooth, but the lack of WiFi direct, Polaris office and video codecs were a deal breaker for me.
I suggest trying a JB rom before returning the tab.
AOKP Build 4 is like butter
iv found the JB leak to not be that smooth on my tab 2 The app store scrolling is slow and so is going from home page to home page...is something wrong? Iv got the Tab 2 3g 10.1??
Experience is nothing like the Note 2 which is amazing! (so good iv not even gone for a custom rom) I know that has the quad core but surely shouldnt be this bad...
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So i just bought a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 with ICS 4.0.3. After a few days i have to say that the experience is terrifying and using the tab now feels like torture. The UI is so massively stuttering and laggy that my eyes are hurting after 10 minutes. Be it web-browsing with all kind of browsers or using facebook or just searching through the menus,... and the worst stutter is in Play Store.
I know that JB is supposed bring the smoothness to a near iDevices-level. I used a JB Transformer Prime before. It is super smooth and is worlds apart from an ICS Transformer Prime. But the Prime has Tegra 3 while the Galaxy Tab 2 has only Tegra 2. The experience with the tab 2 was so horrible that I'm afraid that even JB won't be able to save it.
I was about to return the tab so i don't really want to install an (incomplete) custom JB on it and then have to restore it to stock state. Because as i said, i fear JB is not enough. So anyone who has installed JB on the tab 2 please share your experience with me? If JB is really that great i may give it a try anyway.
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If you really have the situation you described, and you have turned off the power saving mode, then the difference between stock and JB variants won't be noticeable because you have some other issues that are degrading the normal performance.
This tablet performs quite well under normal circumstances with the stock ICS. It has plenty of memory and an adequate processor. SO there are a few possible answer for your problem.
1. You might have failed hardware.
2. You might be loading the device with so many active widgets and background programs that you are eating all the RAM up. That's hard to do, but possible especially if you have some poorly written , misbehaving apps..
3. You have some badly behaving apps that are eating memory and cpu.
4. Do not use auto task killers with ICS, these will fight Android's built-in system optimization and slow your apps down. You can use the manual task manager to kill a misbehaving app if needed.
First open the task manager and see what you have.
When I open it, normally I have about 450Mb used out of 830Mb it displays 450 / 830 and you will see a few active apps. CPU numbers for the active apps should be very low. Mine usually shows 0.0 or 0.X so very low. If you have a app with a high CPU number, that could be your problem.
As you open more app, more memory is used., but that's ok, Android does not remove apps from memory until it needs to.
If you have more than 80% of memory used, things can begin to slow down. That should not happen unless you are running several poorly written apps that are going rouge and eating memory. What does your task manager show?
So-called debloating, removing some unused apps from the ROM is a placebo. If you don't run them, they are sitting in SSD storage doing nothing and have no effect on speed or RAM.
Samsungs Touchwiz additions to the UI have a pretty small footprint and don't impact responsiveness as far as I can measure.
Once we get a fully working kernel, there are some inherent UI speed ups in JB, and those will come in the stock ROMs as well, but that won't fix the situation you have which is an anomaly.
You can monitor applications , memory and CPU usage with a app such as System Tuner
I posted a screenshot.
For me, the stock 4.0.3 was terrible! Even considered returning the tablet due to lag. But flashed AOKP 4.1.1 and feels like a brand new machine. Very smooth and no lags whatsoever!
Hi everyone glad to find this post..!
Ok yo begin with I bought a tab2 10.1 GTP5113 ver. With ICS 4.0.3 ..!
I haven't unlocked or rooted ..! It was smooth everything was nice except if I had many apps opened then it was laggy
I was able to add the incremental update named UEBLH firmware..!!
Then I installed the leaked jellybean firmware on it..! Still everything working fine..!
Its much more smoother and sexier in handling... The UI is beautiful and operation is verryyy smooth ..!
But to my surprise the IR blaster (smart remote control) isn't working anymore and the camera is crappy..! It's garbage..!! It doesn't autofocus anymore..!
I wanted to ask someone has same issues..? And was the camera crappy in previous versions as well. ?
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For me its a big difference going from 4.04 to newest kang jb.
Overclocked to 1.4 and still battery seems to last alot longer and i just find it strange.
Surfing web is insane fast.
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and the camera is crappy..! It's garbage..!! It doesn't autofocus anymore..!
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I don't think the cameras ever auto-focused on the Tab 2's. I know the rear camera on my p3113 doesn't and Face Unlock stopped working for me which was ok because I had to hold my face in a certain spot for it to work anyway since the front camera couldn't change focus.
Back on topic though, I'm running my build of Paranoid Android and it's slicker than a greased pig. It is 4.1.2, but it is way snappier than CM9 was on the p3113.
Let me start off by saying - I have never rooted or installed any custom roms or whatever on my phone. The reason is that I just wanted a phone and not play around with it anymore (playing around = more can break).
Since my SGS3 notified me about the JB update and I installed it via OTA i literally started hating my phone. Here are multiple reasons why:
WiFi does not work. I have the same N-router I had before JB and since then my phone couldn't log in to my WiFi network - always stuck on "authenticating". I then configured the phone to use a static IP and not DHCP and it can connect successfully to my network - but I have NO internet connection. I now my router is fine because it used to work great before and my Nexus 7 as well as ALL other devices work without a problem. I refuse to downgrade my routers speed to B- or G-speed.
Google Calendar won't sync. Under Sync -> Google, for more than a week it says "Sync is currently experiencing problems. It will be back shortly.". Mail and Contacts etc. sync just fine. Calendar on my Nexus 7 syncs fine too. ****ing annoying to not have your appointments visible.
Battery dies _much_ faster. For some reason the battery doesn't last anywhere as long as it used to with ICS. I'm not doing anything different, the battery just drains and drains. I have a suspicion about "gpsd" which sometimes pops up under "Settings -> Battery" even though I haven't used Google Maps or anything. I keep killing it but the phone still dies at least three times faster than before. So it must be more than just gpsd.
F*cking hot! Using it to text someone real quick - the phone gets really hot at the bottom. What the F is up with that? I'm not playing a game or watching a movie or whatnot. 1 minute of WhatsApp makes my phone go toast. On ICS i had to really push the phone to become hot.
Slow. Navigating menus etc. got of course more smooth than on ICS but I have a feeling that a lot of apps now work worse than before. For example the contacts app starts even slower than it did before (>2 seconds). No matter which browser I use, it lags far more often than before. Don't know what it is, but it's definitely there.
What the f*ck is this bullsh*t Samsung? I'm not a power user and have no "special" apps installed. Stock ROM, no root etc. and still a buttload of problems since JB. On ICS everything was great.
I guess I could reset my phone to factory. But seriously - that's not acceptable. Backing up my texts, messages, photos, app settings etc. is too time consuming and annoying. And what if after resetting the phone the WiFi still doesn't work - am I supposed to use my mobile data to download all those apps (Google Search is like 10 MB, other apps are no little fly either). It adds up (time + money).
That Google Nexus 4 is starting too look really good right about now. But I'd rather keep my Samsung. Although I'm probably NOT gonna buy any Samsung phone again any time soon.
You are just bad luck for been updated with faulty firmware.
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What the f*ck is this bullsh*t Samsung? I'm not a power user and have no "special" apps installed. Stock ROM, no root etc. and still a buttload of problems since JB. On ICS everything was great.
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I don't know if I'd agree with all the issues you're having, but is have to agree with you on the fact that Sammy jellybean for the s3 is not really that good...I've tried all of them including stock odexed and deodexed, wanam, insertcoin, omega, etc etc... they're all great roms, but the base is still Sammy jellybean, and battery life sucks when compared to ics. Also, app performance is better on ics based Roms. The buttery smoothness also lasts for only some time after boot and gradually the UI status stuttering, as do the launchers, whether touchwiz or third party... probably the reason why I'm still on an ics Rom.
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I don't know if I'd agree with all the issues you're having, but is have to agree with you on the fact that Sammy jellybean for the s3 is not really that good...I've tried all of them including stock odexed and deodexed, wanam, insertcoin, omega, etc etc... they're all great roms, but the base is still Sammy jellybean, and battery life sucks when compared to ics. Also, app performance is better on ics based Roms. The buttery smoothness also lasts for only some time after boot and gradually the UI status stuttering, as do the launchers, whether touchwiz or third party... probably the reason why I'm still on an ics Rom.
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Thanks for the valuable info mate. Is there no alternative for us to use jellybean?? Will AOKP/AOSP or Cyanogen Roms help?? I am on Jellybean base currently. ICS was a lot better
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Thanks for the valuable info mate. Is there no alternative for us to use jellybean?? Will AOKP/AOSP or Cyanogen Roms help?? I am on Jellybean base currently. ICS was a lot better
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AOSP based Roms are definitely good options to official Sammy jellybean, but the problems are with closed source drivers etc that are not available to AOSP Roms. So stuff like tethering, camera, etc will never be as good as the official firmware...
Best thing is for Sammy to develop a jellybean update with these issues fixed... till then I guess you should stick to AOSP/AOKP for a better jellybean experience.
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That's why I have dual boot. Paranoid as primary for performance; smoothness (and only 160 MB to download !! plus google apps), and a Sammy ROM as secondary for tethering when I need it.
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AOSP based Roms are definitely good options to official Sammy jellybean, but the problems are with closed source drivers etc that are not available to AOSP Roms. So stuff like tethering, camera, etc will never be as good as the official firmware...
Best thing is for Sammy to develop a jellybean update with these issues fixed... till then I guess you should stick to AOSP/AOKP for a better jellybean experience.
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Let's wait for a wile... Sammy promised to public some sorces. Will see in just a week what it will be.
Bad side - most good programmers left developing cm10 for sgs3...
So not many who will be able pick up the cm10 flag and rise it again even if Sammy will public sources..
I had the same problem until yesterday, when i decided to factory reset my phone. Used TitaniumBackup and took about 2 hours to restore everything :|
Now it's much much better. I had to restart my phone about 2~3 times a day before. I haven't since resetting.
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Let me start off by saying - I have never rooted or installed any custom roms or whatever on my phone. The reason is that I just wanted a phone and not play around with it anymore (playing around = more can break).
Since my SGS3 notified me about the JB update and I installed it via OTA i literally started hating my phone. Here are multiple reasons why:
WiFi does not work. I have the same N-router I had before JB and since then my phone couldn't log in to my WiFi network - always stuck on "authenticating". I then configured the phone to use a static IP and not DHCP and it can connect successfully to my network - but I have NO internet connection. I now my router is fine because it used to work great before and my Nexus 7 as well as ALL other devices work without a problem. I refuse to downgrade my routers speed to B- or G-speed.
Google Calendar won't sync. Under Sync -> Google, for more than a week it says "Sync is currently experiencing problems. It will be back shortly.". Mail and Contacts etc. sync just fine. Calendar on my Nexus 7 syncs fine too. ****ing annoying to not have your appointments visible.
Battery dies _much_ faster. For some reason the battery doesn't last anywhere as long as it used to with ICS. I'm not doing anything different, the battery just drains and drains. I have a suspicion about "gpsd" which sometimes pops up under "Settings -> Battery" even though I haven't used Google Maps or anything. I keep killing it but the phone still dies at least three times faster than before. So it must be more than just gpsd.
F*cking hot! Using it to text someone real quick - the phone gets really hot at the bottom. What the F is up with that? I'm not playing a game or watching a movie or whatnot. 1 minute of WhatsApp makes my phone go toast. On ICS i had to really push the phone to become hot.
Slow. Navigating menus etc. got of course more smooth than on ICS but I have a feeling that a lot of apps now work worse than before. For example the contacts app starts even slower than it did before (>2 seconds). No matter which browser I use, it lags far more often than before. Don't know what it is, but it's definitely there.
What the f*ck is this bullsh*t Samsung? I'm not a power user and have no "special" apps installed. Stock ROM, no root etc. and still a buttload of problems since JB. On ICS everything was great.
I guess I could reset my phone to factory. But seriously - that's not acceptable. Backing up my texts, messages, photos, app settings etc. is too time consuming and annoying. And what if after resetting the phone the WiFi still doesn't work - am I supposed to use my mobile data to download all those apps (Google Search is like 10 MB, other apps are no little fly either). It adds up (time + money).
That Google Nexus 4 is starting too look really good right about now. But I'd rather keep my Samsung. Although I'm probably NOT gonna buy any Samsung phone again any time soon.
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boot recovery mode and wipe data
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On the contrary I started loving my phone after jb update and I even dumped aokp for samsung rom
Smooth ui
Faster than ics
Improved camera features
Much more to say
There are one or two glitches here and there but none of them are show stoppers, absolutely happy with jb
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On the contrary I started loving my phone after jb update and I even dumped aokp for samsung rom
Smooth ui
Faster than ics
Improved camera features
Much more to say
There are one or two glitches here and there but none of them are show stoppers, absolutely happy with jb
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I returned to stock rom because it has a better battery life than wanam his. But i love it. I dont have any problems you mentioned. I wish the best for you and I hope you full whipe and flash again. This would propably fix all your problems.
Also to people who are restoring apps with TB, i stopped this method because I am convinced it does more harm to the rom than good
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On the contrary I started loving my phone after jb update and I even dumped aokp for samsung rom
Smooth ui
Faster than ics
Improved camera features
Much more to say
There are one or two glitches here and there but none of them are show stoppers, absolutely happy with jb
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To each his own I guess... but I believe the battery is much worse on jellybean as compared to ics on Sammy Roms...and apps behave much better on ics too.
As far as project butter is concerned, UI smoothness is nowhere near what jellybean promised at release... still stutters badly at times... ics feels more at home on the s3, at least with the current lot of jellybean releases by Sammy
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bala_gamer said:
On the contrary I started loving my phone after jb update and I even dumped aokp for samsung rom
Smooth ui
Faster than ics
Improved camera features
Much more to say
There are one or two glitches here and there but none of them are show stoppers, absolutely happy with jb
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Same here. Even better battery because of the wifi schedule feature.
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I returned to stock rom because it has a better battery life than wanam his. But i love it. I dont have any problems you mentioned. I wish the best for you and I hope you full whipe and flash again. This would propably fix all your problems.
Also to people who are restoring apps with TB, i stopped this method because I am convinced it does more harm to the rom than good
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What problems did I mentioned? Lol
And btw how does tb restore affects your rom?
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Me too... Went from great phone to hate phone. JB just brought me more STOP errors. Even gallery now stops 1-2 times a week.
I hate the grey topbar. I have a bug that when i exit an app, i can see the shadows in the icons slowly returning back instead of beeing instant in ICS.
The phone is also slower. Project butter is just not there. It's like samsung took that out...
dissapointed and want to sell the phone
Happened to me when I had my Galaxy Note. Did an ICS OTA update and everything went wrong.
Now, I'm using S3, I am now using custom ROM and happy about it, faster and lighter with no problem at all.
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What problems did I mentioned? Lol
And btw how does tb restore affects your rom?
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I wasnt referreling to you. I was just as positive as you are
Restoring from TB is just a personal weirdness, I have the idea that pushing all that data into /system sometimes corrupts. I prefer a clean install from Play.
Also i have seen dozensbof people restoring ICS apps and data and complaining the Rom is bad. Thats why I prefer people not too.
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Either root and install a custom rom or wipe data and setup from scratch.
Every now and then software can and will be broken by an update, it doesnt matter if its samsung/android, windows, or even ios - updating can go wrong. Go ahead and get a nexus, even though the chance is slim its possible that the same thing happens when the next update is pushed out.
Im not defending samsung at all, obviously it sucks having to wipe data to fix the problem, but in the end it will solve it - as well as rooting and installing a custom rom will.
Whats with the F*kn language btw?
1 . try wanamlite, android revolution hd and checkrim
2- s-memo and stock browser eat battery disable them.
those two should fix most of ur problems if they dont it's a app u installed.
Stock browser? This is the first time I heard that it affects battery life.
Doesn't it give better battery than chrome?
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Hello.
I'm in the mood for some discussion. Currently waging which rom to install on my note 2, TouchWiz or latest android (4.3). How would you people rate a 4.1.2 rom built on correct sources against the latest version of Android? Performance, battery and user friendly wise.
Bring it on!
/pemell
I think I know where your going with this but it might turn into something bad. Like comparing roms I think is against the rules.
Comparing Touchwhiz to AOSP usually depends on the needs of user.
I prefer TW than AOSP for the note because if the note 2 pen and camera but hey to each their own!
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Which ROM even has 4.3 on the Note 2? CM? I've looked around a little bit but haven't really seen much information in regards to that.
edit: Got my own question answered, disregard this post, I suck at searching.
@jetbruceli it's not about comparison of roms, I would like to discuss platforms in regards of performance, battery and user friendly factors.
@Clyzm there is some, for exempel the unofficial builds of cm 10.2 and paranoid android.
I'm thinking that TouchWiz will serve me good battery wise. For you who currently runs this what is your battery % drain per hour?
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@jetbruceli it's not about comparison of roms, I would like to discuss platforms in regards of performance, battery and user friendly factors.
@Clyzm there is some, for exempel the unofficial builds of cm 10.2 and paranoid android.
I'm thinking that TouchWiz will serve me good battery wise. For you who currently runs this what is your battery % drain per hour?
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Yeah that's comparing ROms.
stock vs aosp. Then you will ask which one.
It's better to try on your own.
For Me stock odexed rooted with a lot of bloatware removed works the best
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It's not about comparison of roms, I would like to discuss platforms in regards of performance, battery and user friendly factors.
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There's not really a lot to discuss because the differences from 4.1>4.2>4.3 really aren't that earth shattering. Especially when you factor in Samsung's s/w modifications. Of the three, 4.1 is considered the most stable with 4.2 having a bunch of issues; some being corrected with 4.2.2 and others not (BT). 4.3 corrects the BT issue which Samsung had already fixed by using their own BT s/w in their 4.2.X ROMs.
Here's a summary of a great 4.1<>4.2 comparison done by Android Authority. A lot of what they are describing doesn't really affect TW-based devices and is more aimed at Nexi users.
So many of the goodies that you love from Android 4.1 Jelly Bean have been carried over to Android 4.2 Jelly Bean. Most of the stock apps and widgets are similar in both Android versions. To the eyes, there’s no big change in Android 4.2 at all. But, some new significant features and some minor alterations make Android 4.2 sweeter and fun. Here is a brief list of new features from Android 4.2 Jelly Bean:
Support for multiple users (for Android tablets)
Multiple lockscreen pages with widgets Wireless display
Revamped Camera app Photo Sphere HDR Mode (for supported devices)
New Clock app Quick Settings pull-down menu Daydream Gesture typing
Additional options in Developer Options
Magnification Gestures and Explore by Touch accessibility features
Security enhancements
UI design changes
Placed side by side, Android 4.2 Jelly Bean shows a slightly modified and slightly upgraded version of Android 4.1 Jelly Bean.
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-4-1-vs-android-4-2-jelly-bean-149740/
As for 4.2>4.3 the changes are even fewer.
http://www.android.com/about/jelly-bean/
4.1 is as solid as a rock on the N2 and the new features in 4.2/4.3 are either not that significant or wouldn't apply to a TW-enabled device. I'm looking forward to 4.2/4.3 (supposedly Samsung's skipping 4.2) coming to the N2 primarily to get some of Samsung's "S" additions that were introduced on the SGS4. But I’ll probably get a N3 which will most likely be on 4.3 before the N2 gets upgraded. Of the native Google features the one I'm most interested in is the more flexible lock screen with widget capabilities. Now that Android is mature the days of radically new versions coming out multiple times a year are pretty much over. 4.1 was introduced in June 2012 and here it is August 2013 and the evolution across 4.1/4.2/4.3 is pretty minor.
Some like the Touchwiz functionalities and it supports multi window and s- features. AOSP has other stuffs. basically depends on what u want and what you like
coolkratos said:
Some like the Touchwiz functionalities and it supports multi window and s- features. AOSP has other stuffs. basically depends on what u want and what you like
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Well I just flashed cm10.1 nightlies and found it super smooth and very well bare for the most part.
Like it felt stripped to the core but super fast and there was no real complaint on my part. You end up with more memory to use and of course it's almost pure stock android with some tweaks. I especially like the blue halo theme!
Now back to Touchwhiz I found myself loving it more than AOSP mainly for this device.
Having s pen related apps and gestures makes it an easy choice. We have pop note and other goodies from the pen.
Air gesture and even without the pen we have built in features like multiwindow and a much better camera experience.
Over all I think when we get 4.3 Touchwhiz, most of the other than users of aosp will switch!
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I like the ProBam ROM, the s-pen features work and it has lots of free RAM. with all apps running the ram usage is around 1.2gb used
jetbruceli said:
Well I just flashed cm10.1 nightlies and found it super smooth and very well bare for the most part.
Like it felt stripped to the core but super fast and there was no real complaint on my part. You end up with more memory to use and of course it's almost pure stock android with some tweaks. I especially like the blue halo theme!
Now back to Touchwhiz I found myself loving it more than AOSP mainly for this device.
Having s pen related apps and gestures makes it an easy choice. We have pop note and other goodies from the pen.
Air gesture and even without the pen we have built in features like multiwindow and a much better camera experience.
Over all I think when we get 4.3 Touchwhiz, most of the other than users of aosp will switch!
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I like the ProBam ROM, the s-pen features work and it has lots of free RAM. with all apps running the ram usage is around 1.2gb used
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Plus with Odexed TW, I believe in my OPINION, that's its the smoothest experience!
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Plus with Odexed TW, I believe in my OPINION, that's its the smoothest experience!
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Can't say I tried ROMs for Samsung, but while I had HTC I did flash a lot - since DHD wasn't getting JB and I experimented a lot with JB ROMS. IMHO, all the "smoothest experience" stuff and how this ROM is better than the other is ONLY due to the fact that when you flash it - your phone is EMPTY. This is also the fact when we buy our phones and we go ooooohh and aaaahhh, how smooth it is. Then, after few months, we fill 'em up with al sorts of widgets and background running processes and they're not so smooth anymore. IMHO, no matter what ROM you use, the performance will always be the same, no matter what. OK, it might be slightly better or worse, but so little that you won't be able to tell. That's why I use stock ROM, since it has most functionality. I just know ANY ROM will be slow after x months of use....
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Can't say I tried ROMs for Samsung, but while I had HTC I did flash a lot - since DHD wasn't getting JB and I experimented a lot with JB ROMS. IMHO, all the "smoothest experience" stuff and how this ROM is better than the other is ONLY due to the fact that when you flash it - your phone is EMPTY. This is also the fact when we buy our phones and we go ooooohh and aaaahhh, how smooth it is. Then, after few months, we fill 'em up with al sorts of widgets and background running processes and they're not so smooth anymore. IMHO, no matter what ROM you use, the performance will always be the same, no matter what. OK, it might be slightly better or worse, but so little that you won't be able to tell. That's why I use stock ROM, since it has most functionality. I just know ANY ROM will be slow after x months of use....
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Well that's why when I flash a new ROM. I wait a day after to determine the speed and stability.
Anyone can say this or that about a ROM or system but in the end its about the user. And I use my device like no other. So performance and stability are the main factors for me!!
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I'm also a big fan of stock, rooted. Custom roms are fun and all yet there are times where you will hit issues because the Dev made a mistake or a change inadvertently affected something else. In my experience the improvements in battery life are negligible at best and at the end of the day I need my phone to be reliable. My latest experience with a custom rom has me with a phone which won't wake from deep sleep if I put it in airplane mode. I'm just waiting to get back home from a business trip and then the first thing I'll be doing is reverting my phone to stock. The last thing I need is a phone which randomly dies in my when I'm away from my laptop and regular access to a high speed Internet connection. These days I'm able to travel light. Besides clothes a note 2 and a note 8 are all I need to get things done but they must be reliable above all else.
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If you have been on 4.2.2 on an S4 u would not expect to see much other differences on the android front except added security. Whatever goodies samsung adds to the note 3 I would expect to see on the note two update. Therefore we will know nothing until September October.
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I'm running unofficial Cyanogenmod 4.3 on my N7105 and must say it's suprisingly stable. Of course there is a long way to go before it can serve as a daily driver, but it's amazing these guys can do so much in such a short time.
Apart some issues with camera , the cm 10.2 is really smooth and battery life is very ok for me.
I thought I'd take the opportunity to share my personal Rom recent experience. I would obviously like to know if others have found the same or if you violently disagree!
The best place to be right now I think is:
s-off (so you can flash whatever you want)
Rooted (so you can back up apps & data freely)
Specifically:
HHboot 1.56 (latest firmware)
ARHD 31.6 Android 4.3 & Sense 5.5) with no mods
Latest radio
I have tried Maximus 30.0 & AHRD 40.3 and found they offered no features/benefits advantage over 31.6 and have a couple of annoying bugs. Battery life is a little worse than 31.6
I have also tried odexed GPE 4.4 with the new launcher. When ART is enabled you can feel the phone is snappier, but that's it. I don't really want to use Google Now. Battery life is worse than sense Roms.
cool story bro
I'm using insertcoin right now and my battery is far more better than any other base I have tried including cm ones. I'm getting over 19h usage with 3h+ screen on time and 3-4h of music through poweramp. Performance is pretty much the same as earlier versions.
I can easily get 13+ hours and about 30% left when I get home with moderate usage on GE 4.4.
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leventccc said:
I'm using insertcoin right now and my battery is far more better than any other base I have tried including cm ones. I'm getting over 19h usage with 3h+ screen on time and 3-4h of music through poweramp. Performance is pretty much the same as earlier versions.
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Same here.
There aren't many performance improvements and DND shuts off the media volume too which I don't particularly like (I quite often use DND to ignore calls and texts while I game) but other than that, I've got the best battery I've ever seen on a stock ROM.
Going to put EX on and do my undervolt + CPU/GPU O/C and have even better battery life.
I don't really miss ART. I have it on my Nexus 7 2013 and its got some issues.
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