Let me start off by saying - I have never rooted or installed any custom roms or whatever on my phone. The reason is that I just wanted a phone and not play around with it anymore (playing around = more can break).
Since my SGS3 notified me about the JB update and I installed it via OTA i literally started hating my phone. Here are multiple reasons why:
WiFi does not work. I have the same N-router I had before JB and since then my phone couldn't log in to my WiFi network - always stuck on "authenticating". I then configured the phone to use a static IP and not DHCP and it can connect successfully to my network - but I have NO internet connection. I now my router is fine because it used to work great before and my Nexus 7 as well as ALL other devices work without a problem. I refuse to downgrade my routers speed to B- or G-speed.
Google Calendar won't sync. Under Sync -> Google, for more than a week it says "Sync is currently experiencing problems. It will be back shortly.". Mail and Contacts etc. sync just fine. Calendar on my Nexus 7 syncs fine too. ****ing annoying to not have your appointments visible.
Battery dies _much_ faster. For some reason the battery doesn't last anywhere as long as it used to with ICS. I'm not doing anything different, the battery just drains and drains. I have a suspicion about "gpsd" which sometimes pops up under "Settings -> Battery" even though I haven't used Google Maps or anything. I keep killing it but the phone still dies at least three times faster than before. So it must be more than just gpsd.
F*cking hot! Using it to text someone real quick - the phone gets really hot at the bottom. What the F is up with that? I'm not playing a game or watching a movie or whatnot. 1 minute of WhatsApp makes my phone go toast. On ICS i had to really push the phone to become hot.
Slow. Navigating menus etc. got of course more smooth than on ICS but I have a feeling that a lot of apps now work worse than before. For example the contacts app starts even slower than it did before (>2 seconds). No matter which browser I use, it lags far more often than before. Don't know what it is, but it's definitely there.
What the f*ck is this bullsh*t Samsung? I'm not a power user and have no "special" apps installed. Stock ROM, no root etc. and still a buttload of problems since JB. On ICS everything was great.
I guess I could reset my phone to factory. But seriously - that's not acceptable. Backing up my texts, messages, photos, app settings etc. is too time consuming and annoying. And what if after resetting the phone the WiFi still doesn't work - am I supposed to use my mobile data to download all those apps (Google Search is like 10 MB, other apps are no little fly either). It adds up (time + money).
That Google Nexus 4 is starting too look really good right about now. But I'd rather keep my Samsung. Although I'm probably NOT gonna buy any Samsung phone again any time soon.
You are just bad luck for been updated with faulty firmware.
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suarsg said:
What the f*ck is this bullsh*t Samsung? I'm not a power user and have no "special" apps installed. Stock ROM, no root etc. and still a buttload of problems since JB. On ICS everything was great.
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I don't know if I'd agree with all the issues you're having, but is have to agree with you on the fact that Sammy jellybean for the s3 is not really that good...I've tried all of them including stock odexed and deodexed, wanam, insertcoin, omega, etc etc... they're all great roms, but the base is still Sammy jellybean, and battery life sucks when compared to ics. Also, app performance is better on ics based Roms. The buttery smoothness also lasts for only some time after boot and gradually the UI status stuttering, as do the launchers, whether touchwiz or third party... probably the reason why I'm still on an ics Rom.
Tapatalked from my SIII
enigmaamit said:
I don't know if I'd agree with all the issues you're having, but is have to agree with you on the fact that Sammy jellybean for the s3 is not really that good...I've tried all of them including stock odexed and deodexed, wanam, insertcoin, omega, etc etc... they're all great roms, but the base is still Sammy jellybean, and battery life sucks when compared to ics. Also, app performance is better on ics based Roms. The buttery smoothness also lasts for only some time after boot and gradually the UI status stuttering, as do the launchers, whether touchwiz or third party... probably the reason why I'm still on an ics Rom.
Tapatalked from my SIII
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Thanks for the valuable info mate. Is there no alternative for us to use jellybean?? Will AOKP/AOSP or Cyanogen Roms help?? I am on Jellybean base currently. ICS was a lot better
IntenseTorture said:
Thanks for the valuable info mate. Is there no alternative for us to use jellybean?? Will AOKP/AOSP or Cyanogen Roms help?? I am on Jellybean base currently. ICS was a lot better
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AOSP based Roms are definitely good options to official Sammy jellybean, but the problems are with closed source drivers etc that are not available to AOSP Roms. So stuff like tethering, camera, etc will never be as good as the official firmware...
Best thing is for Sammy to develop a jellybean update with these issues fixed... till then I guess you should stick to AOSP/AOKP for a better jellybean experience.
Tapatalked from my SIII
That's why I have dual boot. Paranoid as primary for performance; smoothness (and only 160 MB to download !! plus google apps), and a Sammy ROM as secondary for tethering when I need it.
enigmaamit said:
AOSP based Roms are definitely good options to official Sammy jellybean, but the problems are with closed source drivers etc that are not available to AOSP Roms. So stuff like tethering, camera, etc will never be as good as the official firmware...
Best thing is for Sammy to develop a jellybean update with these issues fixed... till then I guess you should stick to AOSP/AOKP for a better jellybean experience.
Tapatalked from my SIII
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Let's wait for a wile... Sammy promised to public some sorces. Will see in just a week what it will be.
Bad side - most good programmers left developing cm10 for sgs3...
So not many who will be able pick up the cm10 flag and rise it again even if Sammy will public sources..
I had the same problem until yesterday, when i decided to factory reset my phone. Used TitaniumBackup and took about 2 hours to restore everything :|
Now it's much much better. I had to restart my phone about 2~3 times a day before. I haven't since resetting.
suarsg said:
Let me start off by saying - I have never rooted or installed any custom roms or whatever on my phone. The reason is that I just wanted a phone and not play around with it anymore (playing around = more can break).
Since my SGS3 notified me about the JB update and I installed it via OTA i literally started hating my phone. Here are multiple reasons why:
WiFi does not work. I have the same N-router I had before JB and since then my phone couldn't log in to my WiFi network - always stuck on "authenticating". I then configured the phone to use a static IP and not DHCP and it can connect successfully to my network - but I have NO internet connection. I now my router is fine because it used to work great before and my Nexus 7 as well as ALL other devices work without a problem. I refuse to downgrade my routers speed to B- or G-speed.
Google Calendar won't sync. Under Sync -> Google, for more than a week it says "Sync is currently experiencing problems. It will be back shortly.". Mail and Contacts etc. sync just fine. Calendar on my Nexus 7 syncs fine too. ****ing annoying to not have your appointments visible.
Battery dies _much_ faster. For some reason the battery doesn't last anywhere as long as it used to with ICS. I'm not doing anything different, the battery just drains and drains. I have a suspicion about "gpsd" which sometimes pops up under "Settings -> Battery" even though I haven't used Google Maps or anything. I keep killing it but the phone still dies at least three times faster than before. So it must be more than just gpsd.
F*cking hot! Using it to text someone real quick - the phone gets really hot at the bottom. What the F is up with that? I'm not playing a game or watching a movie or whatnot. 1 minute of WhatsApp makes my phone go toast. On ICS i had to really push the phone to become hot.
Slow. Navigating menus etc. got of course more smooth than on ICS but I have a feeling that a lot of apps now work worse than before. For example the contacts app starts even slower than it did before (>2 seconds). No matter which browser I use, it lags far more often than before. Don't know what it is, but it's definitely there.
What the f*ck is this bullsh*t Samsung? I'm not a power user and have no "special" apps installed. Stock ROM, no root etc. and still a buttload of problems since JB. On ICS everything was great.
I guess I could reset my phone to factory. But seriously - that's not acceptable. Backing up my texts, messages, photos, app settings etc. is too time consuming and annoying. And what if after resetting the phone the WiFi still doesn't work - am I supposed to use my mobile data to download all those apps (Google Search is like 10 MB, other apps are no little fly either). It adds up (time + money).
That Google Nexus 4 is starting too look really good right about now. But I'd rather keep my Samsung. Although I'm probably NOT gonna buy any Samsung phone again any time soon.
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boot recovery mode and wipe data
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On the contrary I started loving my phone after jb update and I even dumped aokp for samsung rom
Smooth ui
Faster than ics
Improved camera features
Much more to say
There are one or two glitches here and there but none of them are show stoppers, absolutely happy with jb
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bala_gamer said:
On the contrary I started loving my phone after jb update and I even dumped aokp for samsung rom
Smooth ui
Faster than ics
Improved camera features
Much more to say
There are one or two glitches here and there but none of them are show stoppers, absolutely happy with jb
《swagged from aokp》
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I returned to stock rom because it has a better battery life than wanam his. But i love it. I dont have any problems you mentioned. I wish the best for you and I hope you full whipe and flash again. This would propably fix all your problems.
Also to people who are restoring apps with TB, i stopped this method because I am convinced it does more harm to the rom than good
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bala_gamer said:
On the contrary I started loving my phone after jb update and I even dumped aokp for samsung rom
Smooth ui
Faster than ics
Improved camera features
Much more to say
There are one or two glitches here and there but none of them are show stoppers, absolutely happy with jb
《swagged from aokp》
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To each his own I guess... but I believe the battery is much worse on jellybean as compared to ics on Sammy Roms...and apps behave much better on ics too.
As far as project butter is concerned, UI smoothness is nowhere near what jellybean promised at release... still stutters badly at times... ics feels more at home on the s3, at least with the current lot of jellybean releases by Sammy
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bala_gamer said:
On the contrary I started loving my phone after jb update and I even dumped aokp for samsung rom
Smooth ui
Faster than ics
Improved camera features
Much more to say
There are one or two glitches here and there but none of them are show stoppers, absolutely happy with jb
《swagged from aokp》
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Same here. Even better battery because of the wifi schedule feature.
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htcsnap93 said:
I returned to stock rom because it has a better battery life than wanam his. But i love it. I dont have any problems you mentioned. I wish the best for you and I hope you full whipe and flash again. This would propably fix all your problems.
Also to people who are restoring apps with TB, i stopped this method because I am convinced it does more harm to the rom than good
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What problems did I mentioned? Lol
And btw how does tb restore affects your rom?
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Me too... Went from great phone to hate phone. JB just brought me more STOP errors. Even gallery now stops 1-2 times a week.
I hate the grey topbar. I have a bug that when i exit an app, i can see the shadows in the icons slowly returning back instead of beeing instant in ICS.
The phone is also slower. Project butter is just not there. It's like samsung took that out...
dissapointed and want to sell the phone
Happened to me when I had my Galaxy Note. Did an ICS OTA update and everything went wrong.
Now, I'm using S3, I am now using custom ROM and happy about it, faster and lighter with no problem at all.
bala_gamer said:
What problems did I mentioned? Lol
And btw how does tb restore affects your rom?
《swagged from aokp》
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I wasnt referreling to you. I was just as positive as you are
Restoring from TB is just a personal weirdness, I have the idea that pushing all that data into /system sometimes corrupts. I prefer a clean install from Play.
Also i have seen dozensbof people restoring ICS apps and data and complaining the Rom is bad. Thats why I prefer people not too.
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Either root and install a custom rom or wipe data and setup from scratch.
Every now and then software can and will be broken by an update, it doesnt matter if its samsung/android, windows, or even ios - updating can go wrong. Go ahead and get a nexus, even though the chance is slim its possible that the same thing happens when the next update is pushed out.
Im not defending samsung at all, obviously it sucks having to wipe data to fix the problem, but in the end it will solve it - as well as rooting and installing a custom rom will.
Whats with the F*kn language btw?
1 . try wanamlite, android revolution hd and checkrim
2- s-memo and stock browser eat battery disable them.
those two should fix most of ur problems if they dont it's a app u installed.
Stock browser? This is the first time I heard that it affects battery life.
Doesn't it give better battery than chrome?
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My month with a factory unlocked Galaxy S2
Bought this in mint condition from a friend for about half price with only 1 hour of use, an unwanted upgrade. Came with 2.3.4 as expected, so hooked up to Kies; no update at the time. As is my wont, I used the phone for a few days to get to grips with TouchWiz (TW) and the phone generally. All quite reasonable, no stability issues and TW is not bad by any means.
My thoughts and trials so far then:
Hardware
Well made, light and thin. Slippery, so a black rubbery skin bought and fitted and I popped a spare 8GB microSD card in, not that the phone needs it for my purposes.
Only criticism is the OLED screen, I'm used to higher resolution (Moto and Sony) and 800x480 looks rather "cheapo" in terms of detail on a screen this large, but no deal breaker. What I do find somewhat at odds with the price of the phone is the slight but noticeable shading and colour tints across the screen at low brightness levels and on some backgrounds. Plus, the screen's legibility outside on a bright day is no better than more run of the mill LCD screens. (I mean cheaper!)
My first GB update
I generally root phones straight after flashing a new firmware version, if it isn't already. I had already successfully rooted the original stock 2.3.4 firmware with Zergrush 4 and debloated that ROM.
I was keen to try a later GB version before trying ICS, and I found 2.3.6 for "Open Europe" on Sammobile and downloaded it. I had already tried Kies, so the USB drivers were present and working. I uninstalled Kies on the PC but left the USB drivers alone. Kies and Odin are not good bedfellows. I did a full factory reset on the phone and erased everything, allowed it to reboot and then powered off, got in to download mode and flashed XXKL1 (which is an engineering version and deodexed it seems). Rooted it via Zergrush 4, deleted known bloat and renamed possible bloat to xxx.bak to clean the ROM for my own usage, and deleted that very annoying start-up sound. Downloaded all the apps I normally use (about 22 of them), including the excellent CPU Spy to check for deep sleep.
I used/charged the phone over the next couple of days to let the OS bed in. No problems encountered at all, and a very pleasing battery life of 30+ hours of light use, with syncing and GPS, 3G, WiFi always on and occasional BT. Magic! Only thing I did is change the Modem to LPR - the KI3 Modem that came with the ROM is not quite as good at holding weak signals. Only just though...
My first ICS update
So, good phone, stable and very usable ROM in 2.3.6. Time had come to try this new ICS thing. Downloaded the LPQ version and installed it, after a full wipe, via Odin. Not impressed by all the automatic installation rubbish at first boot... Rooted via a hot boot CWM and SU/Busybox successfully and did all the same debloating and app installation as GB 2.3.6. Spent some time getting orientated and used to the new menus and so on.
Over the next day or so, I let the ROM settle and began using the ROM - I changed the Modem to LPR as LPQ was not as good, perception wise. ROM was stable and usable, didn't really look or feel much different from 2.3.6 and was worse on battery - I would say 18 hours at best with the same usage pattern.
Absolutely hate the new Exchange thing for live.com email.... real pain usability wise and battery unfriendly.
My second ICS update
So, not overly impressed with LPQ, although it was usable, I decided to try LP7, the UK generic one. Went through the same process as above, and again swapped the Modem from LPS (awful!) to LPR.
No obvious differences at all. Battery life was as poor, but it was usable.
My first CM trial - CM9
So, somewhat disillusioned by Samsung's ICS implementation, I decide to look around for another "mature" ROM. CM9 fitted the bill (I have used CM6 before on another phone) and was smack bang up to date in terms of kernel, AOSP and G Apps. After my usual clean deck start, installed fine, 23/04 build.
At first, I was quite impressed as I could configure more and to my liking. The ROM was stable and I set the phone up with the usual Apps and deleted some useless stuff (like GenieWidget).
Swapped Modem out to LPR - bit of a theme going on here...
I liked the fact that the Spirit FM radio worked (so bought the Pro version as it is that good). The ROM is very usable and never got bogged down, BUT, for reasons I never fully determined, the battery life would start OK and then decline faster during the day. I never saw more than 12 hours life, again using as per my normal pattern and after a few days to settle. There appeared to be various background activities going on that were preventing deep sleep sometimes, but BBS was not really showing me what. Note that I only use BBS as a last resort as it can increase battery use...
No other real problems, but the soft key backlights wouldn't play with NoLED and were somewhat counter-intuitive. A bit trivial, but a mess.
My second CM trial - CM7
I like GB, it is mature and well understood, so CM7 RC 2 was therefore of some appeal. It had been developed over months and must therefore be fairly sorted. Surely.
Installed without issue on a cleaned platform as usual, including G Apps. Did the usual debloat and installed the usual Apps from the Market/Play, and some that were missing, like GMail. LPR modem was already there, Hooray! Spent rather longer fiddling with the settings in CM7 than CM9 since they were less obvious at first, to me anyway.
Switched off and put the phone on wall charge overnight and was rather shocked to find the phone was noticeably warm and displaying "Kernel Panic" in the morning. The phone had only charged by about 5% in total (to 64%). Worry Worry. I put the phone on USB charge until 100% without incident.
Started to use the phone as normal, the phone UI and operation was very good, fluid even. But, first problem I had was in the car. I paired BT fine, as usual, and made a phone call. After the call, I couldn't end the call on the car or phone - it had locked up. Oh dear.
Later, I tried the FM Radio during my daily walk - doesn't work, so why is it there? I tried Spirit FM - no way would it work. Oh dear.
The following day, I noticed that the battery life was amazing! I had never seen this phone sip juice like this. Deep sleep was always easily achieved. That was until the afternoon. I noticed that the battery level was declining at a much higher rate than earlier. I hadn't done anything different, so BBS was called in again. Nothing obvious shown but I kept seeing the GPS icon winking at me from the Notification bar, and continually. I always keep GPS on, but for some reason on this ROM, no GPS signal meant the ROM just kept trying. I played with various settings like Location etc. and managed to stop this odd behaviour, but this was too silly. I use a Smartphone for all the smart features. This wasn't very smart at all.
CM7 was my biggest disappointment of all the above ROM trials. It was the lightest and most promising, and yet the least reliable or functional. Which is a huge shame...
Today...
I'm now back on KL1 2.3.6, and it just works fine - day after day.
The future for me?
I would really like to use CM9 (or CM7 for that matter). They represent a number of ideals for me, including the open nature of development, the collaboration, a pioneering spirit and giving users a choice and a superb base to build on. I am no developer - I can split and modify kernels to a point, I can rehash ROMs with or without adb, I can amend frameworks. But little more.
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Avoiding problems
Always data reset and wipe before doing anything major from one ROM to another, or follow the installation guide for any specific differences in approach.
Avoid Titanium Backup like the plague - it invariably leads to functional issues later if you cross flash. Use Google and/or airdroid for everything, it all just works. So many friends and other forums I contribute to have had too many backup issues to count. Go clean. Forget about Google paranoia.
ES File Explorer is very useful and recommended.
Don't bother "calibrating" the battery - it's an outdated practice and useless. Just use the phone normally, and anyone who claims the battery life is "great" 1 hour after flashing a newly announced ROM is a fool. Likewise NEVER fully discharge a Li-Ion battery. Just keep topping it up. See here: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_charge_when_to_charge_table
Thoughts
Newer ROMs are rarely better ROMs. Better means different things to different folk of course.
ICS ROM core LPQ to LP8 are largely all the same, just variants of the same thing for different markets. Some users believe they perform differently.
Custom kernels and ROMs are always work in progress and should be treated as such. Check out the number of revisions. Some kernel cookers are (welcome) enthusiastic amateurs that assume more is better and cram "fixes" in that the professional salaried software engineers have mysteriously missed. If you only need your stock kernel to be insecure, learn how to make it so. You are running Linux on your box, right?
Deodexing is not a means to improve performance, on the contrary.
Undervolting is a mythical beast
I bought a phone with an FM radio because I want to use it!
And I totally agree. to all of it. Tried all iterations of almost all roms available. For some reason keep going to my VR 3.0 nandroid back up.
Except CM9, I don't really think there is any real development going on. Most are just cooked up roms OR stuff taken from the CM9 tree and implemented OR so called fixes that have actually broken something else OR just debloated rooted official firmware (that AFAIK is pretty easy to do with the fantastic dsixda's kitchen or on a rooted rom).
Now fanboy's may flame as much as they wish to, but seriously a stable CM9 (hopefully..!) or a VR 4.0 is all I am willing to wait for.
Till such time VR 3.0 it is.
LenAsh said:
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Newer ROMs are rarely better ROMs. Better means different things to different folk of course.
ICS ROM core LPQ to LP8 are largely all the same, just variants of the same thing for different markets. Some users believe they perform differently.
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I don't agree with your final thought. Different ics rooms have really different feels. E.g. Look at scrolling from lpq to lp7.....and there are numerous others as well. If u want more specific thoughts and feedback, just browse through different ics threads in this section..
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I don't agree with your final thought. Different ics rooms have really different feels. E.g. Look at scrolling from lpq to lp7.....and there are numerous others as well. If u want more specific thoughts and feedback, just browse through different ics threads in this section..
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Hmm... I have browsed through the sections, and tried various "revisions" or versions of Samsung ICS today while jotting this lot down, and my view, honestly, is there is no real difference. That isn't to say there isn't, I just can't see or feel it. I do accept that playing with 3 ROMs in a few hours is less than ideal. And a drag!
I suppose if someone could deconstruct the ROMs properly and thoroughly...
Anyway, thanks for your thoughts, appreciated.
Very nice review! +1
Keep up the good work
I broadly agree with the OP.
ICS/AOSP/AOKP/CM9 have improved over the last few weeks, but I'm back on GB, and will probably stay with it until I get the SGS3.
May be subjective, but for me the GB stock browser, camera and dialler are streets ahead of what the rest can offer. Scrolling is smoother too. And I like/need a radio.
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I broadly agree with the OP.
ICS/AOSP/AOKP/CM9 have improved over the last few weeks, but I'm back on GB, and will probably stay with it until I get the SGS3.
May be subjective, but for me the GB stock browser, camera and dialler are streets ahead of what the rest can offer. Scrolling is smoother too. And I like/need a radio.
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Seems like you and the OP only tried the AOSP/AOKP roms? Give the roms based on the latest official a try.
The dialer is still as good as always (unchanged), camera is actually improved with higher bitrate recording and the ics stock browser...is untouchable at the moment in my opinion. (Granted I use "ICS Browser+" from the market which uses the best ui in a browser I've encountered)
I currently use Dynamic's ICS rom and it would be extremely difficult for me to go back to GB at this point.
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Seems like you and the OP only tried the AOSP/AOKP roms? Give the roms based on the latest official a try.
The dialer is still as good as always (unchanged), camera is actually improved with higher bitrate recording and the ics stock browser...is untouchable at the moment in my opinion. (Granted I use "ICS Browser+" from the market which uses the best ui in a browser I've encountered)
I currently use Dynamic's ICS rom and it would be extremely difficult for me to go back to GB at this point.
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While I agree that in terms of loading websites, ics default browser is a little bit faster, scrolling and pinch and zooming is much smoother with stock gb browser. Also the dialer is worse on ics as it has removed the contacts section which means I have to put both the dialer and contacts shortcut on the dock.
I'm using Wanamlite v11.1, Siyahkernel v3.1, and Apex Launcher.
A winning combination in my opinion, that is now at least as good as the best GB ROMs in terms of battery life. 7 hours standby with 30 minutes screen time and i'm still on 87%.
In terms of fluidity and performance I think ICS /w Apex beats GB handsdown.
Thanks for the recommendation, but I avoid ROM mix ups, I can do that myself. The ones I have looked at have had some very dubious scripts and additions. I usually look at build.prop first, and generally find all sorts of hybrid attempts at adding stuff that is completely wrong. Lines taken from websites, other phones and so on.
LenAsh said:
Thanks for the recommendation, but I avoid ROM mix ups, I can do that myself. The ones I have looked at have had some very dubious scripts and additions. I usually look at build.prop first, and generally find all sorts of hybrid attempts at adding stuff that is completely wrong. Lines taken from websites, other phones and so on.
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Depends, it was like you say in Gingerbread days, not with ICS WanamLite nor Dynamic, only tried these + CM9
I am using Dynamic 1.4 LP9, it is as smooth and fast as CM9, but everything working because it is Samsung based
I tried the included NEAK and Speedmod kernels, similar performance and very good battery life, only 3% drain overnight, I dont play with processor tweaking
Sigurd02 said:
Seems like you and the OP only tried the AOSP/AOKP roms? Give the roms based on the latest official a try.
The dialer is still as good as always (unchanged), camera is actually improved with higher bitrate recording and the ics stock browser...is untouchable at the moment in my opinion. (Granted I use "ICS Browser+" from the market which uses the best ui in a browser I've encountered)
I currently use Dynamic's ICS rom and it would be extremely difficult for me to go back to GB at this point.
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Dialer is laggy if you compare it with GB. CM9 variants have slightly more response dialers but overall, GB dialer is way more responsive. There is a small but noticeable lag when pressing a key and the time it takes to register on ICS (CM9 & stock).
Camera recording with stereo voice recording...! Seriously how many people do shoot video with a phone's camera? For facebook uploads mono audio is just fine..
Browser is a definitive improvement yes, and the desktop mode is welcome but browser mods have been available on GB since long.
It is not that ICS is bad. It is actually very good, but the way it has been implemented on S2 is downright ridiculous...! And not one stable vanilla build isn't really helping..
kranti2064 said:
For some reason keep going to my VR 3.0 nandroid back up.
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This is something I have been contemplating for quite some time now, quite possibly the last month. The only real thing stopping me is that for some reason alot of games (eg dead space and modern combat 3) don't seem to like it when i change roms, and even though all the ingame data is there, sometimes it decides I have to re-download.
I do miss it alot though.. and also red pill kernel
I might end up doing a backup of current my CM9 and take the plunge sometime soon. I've been using CM9 since around feb and lately I think my interest has plateaued and now I'm just beginning to get frustrated with little lags that are popping up more frequently (probably due for a wipe mind you!). The only thing about villiam rom is the bloody touch wiz launcher.. I just don't like messing with the launcher roms were made for either.
kranti2064 said:
Camera recording with stereo voice recording...! Seriously how many people do shoot video with a phone's camera? For facebook uploads mono audio is just fine..
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Mass lols to be had at the fact that a majority of the time they would be played on the device through the mono loudspeaker too
I also go back for GB..becoz i feel that ics so laggy at dialer,and PES2012 freeze and cant play on ics..but in GB all working great..
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melorib said:
Depends, it was like you say in Gingerbread days, not with ICS WanamLite nor Dynamic, only tried these + CM9
I am using Dynamic 1.4 LP9, it is as smooth and fast as CM9, but everything working because it is Samsung based
I tried the included NEAK and Speedmod kernels, similar performance and very good battery life, only 3% drain overnight, I dont play with processor tweaking
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And I totally agree. to all of it. Tried all iterations of almost all roms available. For some reason keep going to my VR 3.0 nandroid back up.
Except CM9, I don't really think there is any real development going on. Most are just cooked up roms OR stuff taken from the CM9 tree and implemented OR so called fixes that have actually broken something else OR just debloated rooted official firmware (that AFAIK is pretty easy to do with the fantastic dsixda's kitchen or on a rooted rom).
Now fanboy's may flame as much as they wish to, but seriously a stable CM9 (hopefully..!) or a VR 4.0 is all I am willing to wait for.
Till such time VR 3.0 it is.
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Currently trying ninphetamine kernel (as per VR3 - thanks for the heads up) on my fave stock KL1 more for interest than anything. Seems OK, no obvious difference from stock running as is apart from it being insecure, need a couple of days to evaluate in real life use.
Bloody good post. I've been using CM9 since the video recording bug was solved, and thats probably the longest I've used any ROM on the SGS2, I really like AOSP but the problem is it does still have quite a few bugs, and isn't quite as fast or as battery friendly as I remember the likes of Hyperdroid v6 being.
This makes me tempted to go back to GB. For me, it is still the ultimate for a daily driver. But I'm lazy so I'll probably stick with CM9.
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Dialer is laggy if you compare it with GB. CM9 variants have slightly more response dialers but overall, GB dialer is way more responsive. There is a small but noticeable lag when pressing a key and the time it takes to register on ICS (CM9 & stock).
Camera recording with stereo voice recording...! Seriously how many people do shoot video with a phone's camera? For facebook uploads mono audio is just fine..
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ICS dialer laggy , doesn't happen to me on stock LP9 or Dynamic based on LP9 and CM9 is as smooth as they come. Whilst mono audio is fine for you I quite like having stereo audio. Choice, not limitations my friend
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Bloody good post. I've been using CM9 since the video recording bug was solved, and thats probably the longest I've used any ROM on the SGS2, I really like AOSP but the problem is it does still have quite a few bugs, and isn't quite as fast or as battery friendly as I remember the likes of Hyperdroid v6 being.
This makes me tempted to go back to GB. For me, it is still the ultimate for a daily driver. But I'm lazy so I'll probably stick with CM9.
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Cheers for that - I would definitely recommend the 2.3.6 KL1 off Sammobile if you want a solid GB.
Dude, if you have not tried CheckRom RevoHD V6, then you have not tried the BEST gingerbread rom for sgs2.
This is why I can not use ICS (yet). Checkrom is just too perfect of a Rom.
Try it, tweak it to your liking, use it for a week or 3 then try and go back to stock.
CheckRom XDA thread
I'm not intersted in Quadrant or Antutu scores. I'm just curious if after upgrading to stock Samsung ICS you actually notice speed improvements on your note.
Meaning, does switching between screens seem faster? Does moving around the phone feel slower? Things of that nature. Now that the hardware GPU is actually being used can you see/feel the difference?
Thanks
I can't recall whether the app drawer and screens scroll better but one thing is for certain, web browsing and scrolling through the market is hugely improved.
Messaging is also less laggy and more responsive, the S Memo has been improved a great deal.
It's a good update but I wouldn't be shocked to see another incremental update to polish it off.
For me it seems more laggy and drains battery faster. Few apps crashed as well. I'm sure sammy will release few more updates but I'm not too thrilled for this release. I have heard people bricking their phone & missing key feature apps for premium suite (MyStory and s-note) with this update too, feels like Samsung did half ass job on it.
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The areas that it is definitely faster for me are:
1. Coming out of the lock screen
2. Pulling down and pushing back up the notification bar.
3. In ADW EX, pinching to zoom in and out of the homescreens and homescreen previews is smooth now, It used to be pretty stuttered in LC2.
4. Music apps that require touch input to trigger sounds eg. Solo, TheDrum, Grand Piano. There is noticeably less latency between touching the screen and hearing the sounds.
ICS after 24 hours
I can confirm the following after testing this release under myriad conditions
ICS Stunner is a 100 times better!!
seriously, all this hype and it still looks the same
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I'm not intersted in Quadrant or Antutu scores. I'm just curious if after upgrading to stock Samsung ICS you actually notice speed improvements on your note.
Meaning, does switching between screens seem faster? Does moving around the phone feel slower? Things of that nature. Now that the hardware GPU is actually being used can you see/feel the difference?
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Hi There,
First off all, the N-7000 didn't move officially to Ics yet, since we're all still waiting for the first Samsung stock leak.
Now what you see, are some AOSP, AOKP and CM roms based on Ics 4.0.4. They are more than ready for daily use, stable, but surely missing some Nice features like SPen....
On this forum, there is one leak from Samsung, witch is making Success, a chineese Ics leak, that is originally for the GT-9220, A Galaxy note released in the china, but not with the same processor, thus making the leak not compatible with the N-7000.
Super Devs like Chainfire, maxicett, Alba and others, took this and made it usefull for us!
Some says that it's risky, but believe me, I'm on the maxicet's one " TheMidTeam", and for me is the Best so far!
All the Samsung features are present, The rom is smooth, super fast, stable, and the Best is yet to come, once we'll have our own N-7000 Ics Samsung leak : let's say this Q of the year.
Once said, my freind : make your backup and choose one of the aboves Ics.
Just follow every step the Dev says, and you are set!
Good luck.
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Hi There,
First off all, the N-7000 didn't move officially to Ics yet, since we're all still waiting for the first Samsung stock leak.
Now what you see, are some AOSP, AOKP and CM roms based on Ics 4.0.4. They are more than ready for daily use, stable, but surely missing some Nice features like SPen....
On this forum, there is one leak from Samsung, witch is making Success, a chineese Ics leak, that is originally for the GT-9220, A Galaxy note released in the china, but not with the same processor, thus making the leak not compatible with the N-7000.
Super Devs like Chainfire, maxicett, Alba and others, took this and made it usefull for us!
Some says that it's risky, but believe me, I'm on the maxicet's one " TheMidTeam", and for me is the Best so far!
All the Samsung features are present, The rom is smooth, super fast, stable, and the Best is yet to come, once we'll have our own N-7000 Ics Samsung leak : let's say this Q of the year.
Once said, my freind : make your backup and choose one of the aboves Ics.
Just follow every step the Dev says, and you are set!
Good luck.
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I think you will find that ics is out for the note... have a look at the rest of the forums. Released ota in Germany.
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notegalaxy said:
I think you will find that ics is out for the note... have a look at the rest of the forums. Released ota in Germany.
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Really!?
One week out of the forum, and I become so outdated!
Well I Will check it out,
Any way, as I said, Things Will get much better.
Thank you so much my freind.
All the ICS ROMs I've tried were snappier than GB in general.
Installed it yesterday. Cannot really say it is noticably faster at this point. I have noticed the browser is faster and has many more settings. I have not had any issues and think it is a nice upgrade. It is certainly not slower.
For me its made a massive difference, everything loads instantly now, totally impressed how much so, never thought it would make that much difference.
My note started slower than with GB. Some FC, unable to use the camera, for example, as it frozes. But after some use, things are getting better.
I feel like apps data needs to be updated somehow, so with the use of every application it's getting better.
Anyway, I'm a bit "disappointed". I felt a higher improvement when installed ICS on my Desire HD, so I thing I expected in some way that Note will have a great improvement too. And yes it's better (now, with the use), but not so much as expected.
Maybe is just because with GB my note was already nearly perfect
How'd you get it, being in Plano, TX?
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My note started slower than with GB. Some FC, unable to use the camera, for example, as it frozes. But after some use, things are getting better.
I feel like apps data needs to be updated somehow, so with the use of every application it's getting better.
Anyway, I'm a bit "disappointed". I felt a higher improvement when installed ICS on my Desire HD, so I thing I expected in some way that Note will have a great improvement too. And yes it's better (now, with the use), but not so much as expected.
Maybe is just because with GB my note was already nearly perfect
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Initial releases are usually buggy and it seems that it's the case here.
What I can put it down to is whether or not ICS was installed after a full wipe as it appears that those who did it this way don't have the problems you mention above.
I also got it from kies as I was on stock LC1 (DBT) and have these annoying problems so if it continues I will either wait for an update from sammy (anyones guess when this might happen) or wipe then flash the new ICS.
when i first installed it was fast, now that i did a hard reset its insanely fast!!! i am very pleased with the update
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How'd you get it, being in Plano, TX?
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Off xda the same we all of us are getting it in the u.s.
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imold said:
How'd you get it, being in Plano, TX?
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I updated kies on my computer and plugged in my GNote. I have an DBT unlocked version I bought on Amazon in December. It updated just fine.
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when i first installed it was fast, now that i did a hard reset its insanely fast!!! i am very pleased with the update
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georgios73 said:
Initial releases are usually buggy and it seems that it's the case here.
What I can put it down to is whether or not ICS was installed after a full wipe as it appears that those who did it this way don't have the problems you mention above.
I also got it from kies as I was on stock LC1 (DBT) and have these annoying problems so if it continues I will either wait for an update from sammy (anyones guess when this might happen) or wipe then flash the new ICS.
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Yeah it's probably best to start with a clean slate. When you've got all kinds of data from GB floating around while using ics stuff can get borked and whatnot.
Swyped from my Galaxy Note using Tapatalk
ICS in general is ok but I'm having issues with bluetooth. It regularly loses connection with my Nissan Connect car system. Also before on GB when streaming music over bluetooth the car unit would show the name of the track playing, on ICS it doesn't.
The exact same thing happened when I updated my Galaxy S2 to ICS. I want to try another brand phone, maybe HTC, thats running ICS to see if it is a problem with ICS or my Nissan Connect system.
As I wasn't having any serious issues on GB I reverting back until the bluetooth problem is sorted.
Okay, so I was on official ICS, several actually. I kept hoping one would prove not to have the Super Brick bug. It seems nobody knows, still.
After working myself into a panic worried I would do something normal and suddenly have a brick on my hands, I flashed back to Gingerbread 2.3.6, Europe Open version (XXLA4). I decided to stick with Touchwiz launcher
After messing around with ICS and several different launchers I guess I had forgotten how smooth the stock is.
Apps are now opening and closing fast, the scrolling in the launcher is super smooth and overall, the phone is working very well. It's like a new machine!
It could help that now that I'm on a safe kernel, I've wiped data and basically started new, but I'm very impressed.
I still wish ICS would come out from Samsung with an announced fixed version. I miss the resizing of widgets and the ICS Voice to text engine. It really is much better.
I would rather feel safe in operating the phone, however, and give up those small ICS features I'm missing.
Has anybody else done the same? What do you think?
Just use Franco kernel or Speedmod kernel for your stock ICS rom and you'll have a "safe" kernel.
Or flash CM9 rom.
Since you are on GB, you can flash a CM9 rom and be perfectly fine easily.
I have to agree alittle with you , always when i reflash to a stock rooted gb, i always feel WOW its so smooth, but thats until i start installing all my apps i use.
I must say that batterylife is better for me on ICS, dunno why.
BTW, is there any significant speed difference between stock ICS (LPY for instance) and CM9? I'm on LPY and Franco r5 and even when overclocking to 1.6 GHz I haven't noticed any speed change.
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BTW, is there any significant speed difference between stock ICS (LPY for instance) and CM9? I'm on LPY and Franco r5 and even when overclocking to 1.6 GHz I haven't noticed any speed change.
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I've not tried CM9.
Currently its in nightlies but even still from past experiences with stock rom vs cm7 etc i got noticable stability and speed increases. different phones and roms though but generally the idea still applies.
Can't understand all the drama about the ICS update. I just installed mine OTA as instructed, installed Apex Launcher and I couldn't be happier. Everything seems a little smoother too.
Stock email widget works a treat (7x7 grid and above) and with the Smooth Calender widget I am in home screen heaven. Leaves TW on both Gingerbread and ICS.
Just gone from a great phone to a fantastic phone for my needs
I on the other hand still stick with GB right know.
I'm planning to flash CM9 this weekend.
Because I'm getting bored with GB, everyone seems already tried ICS.
I was waiting official save kernel from Samsung, but I just cannot wait anymore to try the ICS.
I will try CM9 mod first I guess, although Franco and CF kernel already release their 'safe' kernel but I still a bit worried since we're not yet sure if there's other reason of the hardbrick
Also back on GB stock with root
I have to agree with this that stock GB is alot more stable than ICS and smoother aswell.
I have tried nearly all the stock ICS releases and all the custom roms based on stock ICS that are in the development forum. Also tried with different kernel combinations and both full wipe / no wipe. Initially most of it seems great then you start using a few apps and it all goes downhill from there.
So GB ftw (well atleast till I get that flashing craving again)
Hi,
Using stock ICS update, had a bricked device after my inability to read, read, read, read & read more, lucky enough to find a solution (not able to disclose, not a technical solution - retail) I use Apex pro launcher & all runs like a dream.
Run chainfires got brickbug? & not happy x19. Rooting may have to wait, confidence bit dented (rooted & flashed my last HTC units & my SG2)
Will read, read & read for a while longer yet.
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I also don't understand the complaints for official ICS, I have updated mine and everything is running smooth...there seems to be a problem for people who did not factory reset before upgrading?
i had a lot of restarts - over and over again
i unplugged my battery and it kept happening
since upgrading to ICS - its quite a lot better but still sometimes i get the restarting issue - battery life on ICS is ok - maybe a bit worse than GB
ilegales said:
i had a lot of restarts - over and over again
i unplugged my battery and it kept happening
since upgrading to ICS - its quite a lot better but still sometimes i get the restarting issue - battery life on ICS is ok - maybe a bit worse than GB
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For the restart thing, there maybe an apk which is incompatible? I had this problem after installing several apks from the market when I was on GB once and did a factory reset to solve it.
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I also don't understand the complaints for official ICS, I have updated mine and everything is running smooth...there seems to be a problem for people who did not factory reset before upgrading?
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I wasn't complaining about ICS. In fact, I really liked it. Especially the additional widgets, and the voice search improvements.
I was just paranoid that something I did in everybody function would cause the super brick bug. While people seem to thinkI they know what triggers it and what doesn't, we just don't know for sure.
So for me, I'm staying on GB until Samsung admits and fixes the emmc bug.
Back to GB for me too.
I agree with the OP, I have gone back to GB.
For me the advantages of ICS do not outweigh the stabilty of GB.
ICS:
I lost 40-50% battery life but I gained Chrome ( a little bit buggy but good nonetheless). I also ran the risk with the EMMC bug.
GB : I get my battery life back again, have to use the standard browser but at least I can't brick my phone.
I use the note quite heavily for the web, notes, email and following tweets. It has become an excellent companion and I really don't want to lose it just for the sake of running the latest OS.
I have enough patience to wait until an "official" patch comes out that can repair the bug. After such times I will go back to trying the various ROMs on the site.
Me too recently on ICS Dxlp9 now back to more safer ROM stock GB 2.3.6 unrooted! loving it! gonna miss the resizble widgets and those new features but its worth to wait LOVE MY NOTE
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I'm back to stock UK XEU LA4 rom and all the better for it. The stability of GB definately outweighs the few advantages (that I've experienced anyway) with ICS.
My main issues with stock UK XEU ICS where
1/ Bluetooth connectivity problems with my car Nissan Connect system
2/ Adobe Flash player was unstable & some websites I frequent didn't work properly at all
3/ Screen responsiveness reduced
4/ Battery life was worse
heading back to gb too. Cant find any reason for using ics. and tw is so ugly. Waiting for the official Miui
I tried LPY and didnt like it - battery life awful and unpredictable then reverted back to GB - I think I will keep it this way until a much better ICS is available maybe CM9?
Likewise I've gone back from XXLQ2 to XXLA6. There wasn't enough good new stuff in the Touchwiz version of ICS to outweigh the battery drain and keyboard problems. And I did do a full wipe before flashing.
mingonn said:
Can't understand all the drama about the ICS update. I just installed mine OTA as instructed, installed Apex Launcher and I couldn't be happier. Everything seems a little smoother too.
Stock email widget works a treat (7x7 grid and above) and with the Smooth Calender widget I am in home screen heaven. Leaves TW on both Gingerbread and ICS.
Just gone from a great phone to a fantastic phone for my needs
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Main issues people have are:
1) TWizzed ICS is a horrible disappointment compared to an actual ICS experience. Samsung basically reverted half of ICS to a legacy Gingerbread UI.
2) Samsung did a ****-poor job of software quality control with their ICS releases. It's utterly stupid that the launcher force closes if you debloat unrelated apps - but that has been the case since the first I9100 ICS release. (There's a reason most custom firmwares use Apex instead of TWLauncher.)
3) Last but not least - Samsung has had a latent defect in the eMMC chips shipped in nearly all of their Exynos-based handsets up till now, and the kernel developers for the SPH-D710, SGH-I777, SHW-M250S/K/L, and GT-N7000 were stupid enough to enable the trigger condition for a known and documented MMC chip bug. The I9100 kernel development team was smart enough to remove MMC_CAP_ERASE from the MSHCI driver or not enable it in the first place.
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I also don't understand the complaints for official ICS, I have updated mine and everything is running smooth...there seems to be a problem for people who did not factory reset before upgrading?
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In general - if you perform a wipe data/factory reset on any stock ICS kernel, you run a significant chance of permanently trashing your phone's internal storage.
It's a MAJOR bug that Samsung should NEVER have allowed to go out the door.
So after having been running ICS roms for the past 2 months or so, I decided to switch back to my favorite Gingerbread rom for the hell of it, to see exactly what I'd been giving up for ICS. And WOW, was I blown away. I remember GB was a lot faster than ICS, but geez I did not remember it being this fast. EVERYTHING opens and closes quicker, touch responsiveness is amazing, screens swipe lightning quick, and I'm sorry, even though I did realize ICS improved battery life a little bit from my initial impressions, GB is giving me better battery life than most of the ICS roms I have used. Most importantly to me though, my phone has simply just become more of a joy to use. And less of CHORE. ICS makes texting a pain in the ass. And not only that, but basically doing anything, browsing, having to constantly re-press anything, scrolling.......omg scrolling. Going down your facebook newsfeed is definitely a chore on ICS. Seeing as it goes up a little, half the time you scroll down. But typing is probably the biggest thing for me, since I text a decent amount. I even installed the same GB keyboard I'd used on gingerbread roms (it's a modified stock gb keyboard called "gingerbread keyboard") which I had been able to type so quick and so accuretly with (except for the occasional double letter that the keyboard puts in), but on ICS it was just as inaccurate as any other crap keyboard I'd try out. You just have to type slowwwww, and press hard. Who the hell wants to use their phone like an old person? I sure don't. ICS makes my phone a chore to use.
I'm looking to get some other impressions here, and from both sides (mostly ICS fans, if you don't mind), and just get an overall consensus of what the deal is. I knew I'd missed GB, but I didn't realize it was this much!
Things I'd be missing from ICS: brightness minimum and maximum (having a lower min is really appreciated in my room at night - some later GB roms have this implemented though), the updated Gallery (soo much better on ICS), some features that are nice to have but I don't really change anyway (screen mode, gamma sensitivity, etc.), Chome (LOL jk, chrome sucks **** on mobile), better default video player, having my phone say 4.03, 4.04, or 4.1.1 that's about it. Lemme know some other things you'd miss from ICS if you were to revert back.
Also, I have tried most roms for ICS, ranging from AOKP, AOSP based roms, CM9, Sammywiz ones, MIUI variations. Just for reference, I've tried Shishir, Ressurection AOKP, Foxhound's roms, Basically all of Kaffee's roms, cMIUI, RGUI, AdyScorp's V4, AOKP official, Rootbox, etc. My favorite of those personally was probably Ressurection, and cMIUI. Not a huge fan of AOKP (or the wole CM interface), so cMIUI a bit more.
Btw, the GB rom I'm referring to is AdyScorpius' MIUI GB. Fastest rom I've ever used, period. Battery life from what I remember was not even that good (I mean it's MIUI) even compared to other MIUI's. So considering that I'm noticing it to be on par, if not better than ICS I was running, is noteworthy.
Lay your comments down below.
EDIT: Oh and I've tried a few JB roms already, including CM10, Kaffee's CM10, and X-treme's CM10 based rom. To be honest it's really smooth (coming from ICS though), however it's wayyy too early in the game to compare it to GB for me. To be quite honest, it's really smooth and relatively fast, but since it's still based on ICS, I doubt it will ever feel as good as GB.
I do agree but i got used to ICS and the little problems bundled with it. When samsung decides to update our phones to JB, i hope it'll be a different story
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VanillaCracker said:
So after having been running ICS roms for the past 2 months or so, I decided to switch back to my favorite Gingerbread rom for the hell of it, to see exactly what I'd been giving up for ICS. And WOW, was I blown away. [...] I'm looking to get some other impressions here, and from both sides (mostly ICS fans, if you don't mind), and just get an overall consensus of what the deal is. I knew I'd missed GB, but I didn't realize it was this much!
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Well, I'm not an pure ICS fan - both versions have their advantages - but I like CM, AOSP and MIUI - and Samsungs camera app. As almost everything here at XDA and other boards is about ICS and now JB I have not expected someone coming up with a thread like this, thanks
I must admit reverting to a 2.6.9 GB MIUI (external link to Fluxi's MIUI GB thread) quite often, too - It somehow just "feels" better than any ICS ROM I tried so far (only 2 months \w I9100, i9000 before, always working on kernels) - touch sensitivity and wakeup lag definately are two reasons for me, too. Battery seems to be almost equal to me.
I'm still looking for "the" firmware, currently testing MIUI 2.7.27 which seems to work quite well, too. But I have a feeling that I'll switch back to GB tonight...
Read in another thread you posted that the WIUI dev might update the GB version, may I ask where you have that information from? Interesting.
Gingerbread was far better than ICS from a raw performance standpoint, i was 100 and 1% happy with the way my phone performed with GB and then i flashed to ICS and got used to extra features (and im the kind of person that doesn't like to be behind the curve).
If google had ported all of the new functionality to GB along with some of the work they did with project butter we would have a MUCH MUCH better platform than we are currently stuck with.
Having a device that doesn't respond the way you would expect to touch input and has noticeable jank and lag in this day and age is NOT acceptable when you have the likes WP7 and iOS out there.
Time is running out Google (& to a degree Samsung) , I've been an Android user since the G1 and 3 devices on my patience is growing short.
We already had these kind of threads before
i will downgrade to 2.3.3 if there isn't a newer 2.3.x of Nee which i believe there is but i ain't finding them
i downgrading due to lockscreen stopped work on Stock ICS but it seems to be working on gingerbread
The only reason why I am on ics is that I can not connect to my college's wifi network... On ics wifi works fine...
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I downgraded from ics back to GB 2.3.4 due to ics bugs, lag on the touch screen (sometimes felt like a resistive screen) jerky swipes between home screens, black screen of death, random shut down and disappearing widgets. Like the op says, GB was a revelation again and the galaxy feels reliable, responsive and fast again. I'm staying put now till next year when my contact ends, I came from iPhone to android and maybe it will be wp8 next, or maybe a galaxy s3.....
I miss the face unlock, swipe to dismiss notifications and the task manager of ics, that's about all
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I do agree but i got used to ICS and the little problems bundled with it. When samsung decides to update our phones to JB, i hope it'll be a different story
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I'm hoping the same thing man haha. But honestly I'm not having my hopes up anymore. I know that the CM10 preview builds don't have HW Accelerator working, and that the sensitivity does seem a bit better than ICS (more in the 'ok-eh' category instead of 'bad' like ICS), but I've seen a couple builds that claim to have HW Acceleration working, so if that makes a drastic improvement we'll see. Honestly I thought when ICS came out that it was just early in developemnt and that they'd work out the jags and stuff....yeah no. It's 3 months later and performance-wise it's relatively similar. AOKP has gotten much smoother though, but there's only so much you can do.
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Well, I'm not an pure ICS fan - both versions have their advantages - but I like CM, AOSP and MIUI - and Samsungs camera app. As almost everything here at XDA and other boards is about ICS and now JB I have not expected someone coming up with a thread like this, thanks
I must admit reverting to a 2.6.9 GB MIUI (external link to Fluxi's MIUI GB thread) quite often, too - It somehow just "feels" better than any ICS ROM I tried so far (only 2 months \w I9100, i9000 before, always working on kernels) - touch sensitivity and wakeup lag definately are two reasons for me, too. Battery seems to be almost equal to me.
I'm still looking for "the" firmware, currently testing MIUI 2.7.27 which seems to work quite well, too. But I have a feeling that I'll switch back to GB tonight...
Read in another thread you posted that the WIUI dev might update the GB version, may I ask where you have that information from? Interesting.
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I really appreciate your comments, especially coming from someone who has experience with kernels, it gives the whole discussion a little more validity. Wake lag is definitely annoying, honestly that's one of those things that by itself, you would think could be dismissed, but when added to the touch sensitivty, and sluggishness, just makes you think..what the hell.
Btw I was actually looking at WIUI last night by chance and also saw that he actually is updating his GB version. I had to re-read it a few times to make sure I wasn't mistaken. He's got a 6.29 version out, and in the comments he said he would do 8.4 (around there). I'll probably flash that, as my April GB rom is probably really outdated....hah.
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Gingerbread was far better than ICS from a raw performance standpoint, i was 100 and 1% happy with the way my phone performed with GB and then i flashed to ICS and got used to extra features (and im the kind of person that doesn't like to be behind the curve).
If google had ported all of the new functionality to GB along with some of the work they did with project butter we would have a MUCH MUCH better platform than we are currently stuck with.
Having a device that doesn't respond the way you would expect to touch input and has noticeable jank and lag in this day and age is NOT acceptable when you have the likes WP7 and iOS out there.
Time is running out Google (& to a degree Samsung) , I've been an Android user since the G1 and 3 devices on my patience is growing short.
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I agree with you that it probably would have made a lot more people happy had they stuck with a thoroughly upgraded GB instead of making a new platform. However although ICS sucks performance-wise (interface, anyway), it is actually pretty good in terms of efficiency. If you notice while restoring text messages or installing something via titanium backup, or shutting off your phone, things run quicker on ICS. ICS is more efficient, for sure. Which is why I hate even more how it is, because it has potential but for some reason still just completely sucks.
I'm gonna have to rant on google: *these are new thoughts just realized a minute ago* Google is definitely behind the ball in terms of what they're releasing. Google has always been out of touch with the people[/B. I'm only 20 but I was able to pick this up over the last couple years. They suck at knowing what people want, or at least are too hung up with their own projections that they don't see the people in which they're serving. You can tell google doesn't know what they're doing because you see it in everything they do. Example 1) Changing Android Market to Google Play Store. Obviously, there are plenty of reasons for them to do that (main probably being to get their name out - not everyone knows android is google based, and also to put all their apps into one [google music, google books, ect]), but they could have done that without changing the name to something EVERYONE HATES. Example 2) Google chrome (desktop). I use Chrome on my home PC. It's really fast. Other than that, I hate everything about it. The interface is styled, but looks like it was organized by an amateur, and is poorly structured. Functinoality is splintered and not well thought out. Firefox beats it in every single category, except for performance. Wish I could go back to firefox. Example 3) Chrome (Mobile), this app is unstable, and probably the slowest browser on the market...and yet it is the only video playing browser available on JB (no flash anymore)... Firefox BETA is 300% more stable than chrome's Non Beta app.
GB was fine, but ICS's regression is total bull (and I'm not talking to official update - samsung), and honestly as mentioned above it is just debasing them for the future. Honestly, I had an itouch for a couple years, and have used countless friends iphones over the years, so I know what it's like. Just the simple fact that going back to MIUI GB has made me the happiest I've been in a while...is saying something. I hate to be the ass who brings up negative things, but if they had been doing things right in the first place, things wouldn't have to be mentioned. I'm not too picky, but I do demand quality. Although I've never even considered it in the past, I'm looking forward to seeing what they're rolling out for the iphone 5, cus it may actually make a difference in my next phone.
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We already had these kind of threads before
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I saw one, but it does not discuss the same thing..it meerly has the same subject. This thread heads in a much different direction, also the former post is outdated with the progression of ICS currently.
LastStandingDroid said:
i will downgrade to 2.3.3 if there isn't a newer 2.3.x of Nee which i believe there is but i ain't finding them
i downgrading due to lockscreen stopped work on Stock ICS but it seems to be working on gingerbread
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You may find one! I know finding official releases past 4.x.x is hard. WIUI is pulling from somewhere though, I know that. Could be it's all just his own input.
Dark Emotion said:
The only reason why I am on ics is that I can not connect to my college's wifi network... On ics wifi works fine...
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I know ICS has better range for WIFI, other than that I don't know the actual differences.
*Sorry for long post*
It is not the range, it is wpa2 thing...
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Oh no!! This thread is killing me for going back to Gb. Damn damn damn....
Sliding answering options, fantastic lockscreen, system wide font synchronization, what more I am missing....God knows....!!
i never use GB on my phone it came with ICS out of box but i want to try it, stock and custom just wanna see how different it is performance wise.
ithehappy said:
Oh no!! This thread is killing me for going back to Gb. Damn damn damn....
Sliding answering options, fantastic lockscreen, system wide font synchronization, what more I am missing....God knows....!!
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Lol I hope you're not trolling. Honestly I doubt GB has much of anything that ICS doesn't have. Except ICS option menu is dumb (although samsung's gb is RETARDED), and GB has more simple, intuitive button layout (delete, menu key layout, etc.)
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i never use GB on my phone it came with ICS out of box but i want to try it, stock and custom just wanna see how different it is performance wise.
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Yeah I mean if you haven't rooted yet you're definitely missing out on like 50+ roms to try. There's plenty of different categories and types. You'll probably be amazed when you flash one of the latest (or last) GB build roms. They're blazing. Ady MIUI is like iOS on steroids. Cept the battery is meh. That's the only problem. And of course GB seems outdated now, but it's still got higher usability, imo. Part of what kills ICS is it takes so much longer for you to do things on your phone. I bet it drives up screen on time
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Lol I hope you're not trolling.
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Whatever I do, I'll never troll.
after brick my phone with the so called chip bug and change the mb after paying 100 with the same chip with a bug, flashing XWLPO and then XWLPT I decided to go back to 2.3.4. My battery last +2 days (everything disabled and underclocked) and everything looks smooth enogh for me. If you want a cool interface like ICS has (I see no reason at all to run ICS other than the interface) just install the free version of Go Launcher
Yeah I mean if you haven't rooted yet you're definitely missing out on like 50+ roms to try. There's plenty of different categories and types. You'll probably be amazed when you flash one of the latest (or last) GB build roms. They're blazing. Ady MIUI is like iOS on steroids. Cept the battery is meh. That's the only problem. And of course GB seems outdated now, but it's still got higher usability, imo. Part of what kills ICS is it takes so much longer for you to do things on your phone. I bet it drives up screen on time
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no my phone is rooted and i already flashed custom roms for more then 10 times( all ics expect 2 latest build of cmx) not a big fan of ios looks but im looking forward to try out other gb roms, but im keep coming back to stock based roms just b'coz of camera and that is wht i really want to see in stock gb : camera
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ithehappy said:
Whatever I do, I'll never troll.
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Good to hear it :good:
heavens dragon said:
no my phone is rooted and i already flashed custom roms for more then 10 times( all ics expect 2 latest build of cmx) not a big fan of ios looks but im looking forward to try out other gb roms, but im keep coming back to stock based roms just b'coz of camera and that is wht i really want to see in stock gb : camera
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Oh I gotcha. Yeah honestly stock camera blows all the other cameras away. Stock ICS camera is pretty decent too, but the button on stock gb is the best. feels more secure, and focus is instantaneous with press. MIUI (GB) is decent too except I found the quality a little worse and instant focus a little less accurate. Anti-shake is terrible on MIUI camera too.
Wow GB. Amazing memories .I think the best GB was XXKI4. But what can I know... I had GB for 2 or 3 months since this year's winter and then Boom! Boot loop. You know why guys?? I had brand XWKI4 and there were battery mods for XXKI4.So I flashed those ;p. And then came XXLPS.Now I am on LQ7 but It's not the same. Thanks bro I was waiting for man wich will lead me to GB. BTW first rom for SGS2 is XWKDD so?! Coman guys we have Gingerbread to flash
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can someone link the "best" (in his eyes) gb roms ?
i would love to try a few if they are really faster than ics (smoother).
was so close to try cm10 but so much stuff needs to be fixed...
for me the most important thing would be cam and a smooth feeling.
and can i use nova launcher prime on gb (is it looking the same?)
i never tried gb (my s2 came with ics, so....)
I haven't used GB since I got my S2, but I used it exclusively on my original S. When I moved from phone to phone I found the speed increase of GB on an S to ICS on my S2 simply mind blowing. I know it's nearly a 200% processor boost, but still. Now I'm using JellyBean. I get a full day of near constant use with an extended battery. (I'm a teen, we text all the time, so it gets a pretty heavy workout.) and the speed BLOWS AWAY Gingerbread and ICS without question.
So no, I don't miss it personally. And I'm using SwiftKey, which is an absolute dream. Way better than any stock kb I've ever used.
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Seriously, it's like treacle! I'm about ready to root and install gingerbread.
Dialler takes forever to come up, when I tap the search button it takes many seconds for the keyboard to appear.
No-one else seems to mention this problem?
I have very few apps installed, and certainly no bloatware like task killers, etc.
No, you aren't the only one. Our phone is just a bit too old. All we can do now is bear with it until we upgrade.
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Jelly bean is slow as **** for me. I guess most of the people just can't notice that jb's animations and reaction time when touching the screen is just delayed.
I've been frustrated with my nexus not acting fast untill i tried one combination. I'm i9023 user and this combo is just perfect for my phone. No input lag whatsoever, no animation lag, everything is just fast and instantly responsive. Give it a try and tell me what you think.
Cm9.1 stable:
http://get.cm/get/3F6
Air kernel 4.4:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lfonudtw9ngerwf/Air_Kernel_v4.4_65fps+blue.zip
Gapps:
http://cmw.22aaf3.com/gapps/gapps-ics-20120317-signed.zip
Use it with apex launcher, because trebuchet may lag when opening app drawer. To avoid dialler lag, i suggest using exdialer, it's downloadable from the market.
Please try that and let me know if I'm the only one who sees the difference
Even the keyboard is just faster than on jb. Scrolling, switching between windows, statusbar is more responsive. Try and tell me what you think.
Sometime I wonder how come poeple say jelly bean is faster than ics. First impressions are good, but after very short time of usage jelly bean is full of slow ****. Every rom based on jb is just slower than this combo.
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Nope. No problems here. Phone is fast and stable, although a little struggling with battery life, but like I said before somewhere in these forums, life is full of tradeoffs.
Yes this thing is slow. Its actually kept me from being involved with the phone. I don't add different ROMs or anything anymore because they all feel to heavy for this phone.
I'm just counting down the days until the next Nexus is released.
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"Am I the only one who finds ICS & JB unbearably slow on Nexus S?"
Pretty much, no problems here.
Xperia ROM
Hi,
For all of you who are not happy with the speed of Nexus S, try using this rom -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827071&highlight=xperia
I can assure it is definitely much faster than the stock ICS or jellybean ROMs. If you have been using the stock Nexus S ROMS, you will see noticeable difference in the colours. They are much better on this Xperia ROM and does not have that yellow shade. I love the ROM and believe me I have tried almost every ROM available on XDA for for Nexus S.
Though there are 2 issues, for which I haven't found any solution, it blocks the calls coming from unknown numbers and you do not even see a missed call. And you can't use the default screen locks. But apart from these, the ROM is rock solid, never crashes or hangs, everything works fine and it is ultra smooth.
If you think your phone is running slow, I highly recommend this ROM. Everyone should give this ROM at least a try.
Let me know if I helped by clicking Thanks
Mines seems fast but battery life is terrible getting a galaxy nexus next week
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I don't really notice a difference speedwise between ICS and JB. They are both a little slower than GB was, but not unbearable. The added features of ICS/JB are well worth it IMO.
Overclocking a little bit can help, although it can hurt battery performance a bit.
muldy said:
"Am I the only one who finds ICS & JB unbearably slow on Nexus S?"
Pretty much, no problems here.
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Agreed. Current combo keeps up with wife's combo. Don't know what the OP is talking about. See sig for both setups.
I agree with jellybean being kinda slow. However, i dont know if it's just the rom's were installing on our device, cause i kinda remember stock JB being pretty fluid which is kinda making wanna go back to stock again
GB was stale, solid, and best battery life.
I miss having a flashlight app that worked and better battery life.
ICS and JB have been ok up until I started having power button issues last week.
JRO03L update seems to have fixed the majority of freezes, crashes, and power button issue.
After the reality has set in, I would have stick with GB
no problems here. aokp jb build 2 and beladus marmite 4.4 kernel combo is running smooth on mine.
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Slow? My phone is faster than ever. The fact though that your phone is not rooted explains your struggle.
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Slow? My phone is faster than ever. The fact though that your phone is not rooted explains your struggle.
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Are you implying that every end-user of android phones should learn to root or install custom roms/kernel to get a DECENT experience? While I'm content to see Google supporting a device almost 2 years after its release (Apple does that as well btw), I'm kind of feeling disgusted about the overall user experience, laggyness, crashes, random reboots and decreased battery life. I wish Google released a FINISHED product/operating system and not leave its customers in a sort of beta-testing fog.
I'd suggest backing up your data and wipe your whole device like a madman. Format.
And start from scratch with the rom of your choice
Might be that time for your ol' precious Nexus S.
I did. And its very worth it :thumbup:
And for the others.. like the previous post..
Jump on the apple train. Yes, There os is stable... but stale
Dive in!
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Memory management is the problem...
I think the problem has to do with the way memory is managed in ICS/JB... I still can't find found a recent ROM that will keep the launcher in memory no matter what. That's terrible for user experience! None of the task or memory manager apps in the Google Play Store seem to help either.
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slow??? my NS is lightning fast! with slim bean ROM and bedalus kernel
DMardroid said:
I'd suggest backing up your data and wipe your whole device like a madman. Format.
And start from scratch with the rom of your choice
Might be that time for your ol' precious Nexus S.
I did. And its very worth it :thumbup:
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^ this. I was having a bad experience with JB as well until I formatted my sdcard. And I'm not talking about wiping from CWM. I'm talking about mounting it as USB storage and formatting from a PC.
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Highway 55 said:
^ this. I was having a bad experience with JB as well until I formatted my sdcard. And I'm not talking about wiping from CWM. I'm talking about mounting it as USB storage and formatting from a PC.
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+1
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