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Will LIKELY upgrade to P10 Plus from the LG v20...

I'm the not-so-proud owner of the LG v20 dual SIM phone...and with it, 6 months on...it's STILL lacking a viable root option on 7.0 Nougat and there's not a SQUEAK of support on the development side coming from LG. So, I've turned to this new release. The P10 Plus looks quite attractive as a potential upgrade from me. Here's why, in my books:
- MIMO dual antenna is excellent for COVERAGE concerns/download speeds
- Retains a useful IR blaster (hooray, it's not dead on smartphones afterall!)
- LED notification status indicator/light (User manual page 4 indicates green, red and orange thus far...think I've also seen white)
Then you add the fact that it comes boxed with a case (or even without the cut diamond reduces fingerprints and is a nice feature); it is available in Dual SIM (and also B28 700Mhz frequency; important for me in Australia); it's no bigger than 5.5" - and while it 2K IPS, it more than makes up for the hefty 3750mAh battery drainer with a massive battery. That's enough to convince me to change.
But first things first - viable root. Who is getting this phone? Whats the liklihood, as Huawei did for the P9 Plus, to release the open source kernal for download? Who is going to attempt and develop root for it? If any owners are reading this, PLEASE post a video testing out the NFC and the notification lights (with lightflow, if possible) - that would be super helpful!
P10 Plus HUAWEI Phone support:
http://consumer.huawei.com/en/support/mobile-phones/huaweip10plus-en-sup.htm
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You realise you've posted in the P10 Plus section?
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scook94 said:
You realise you've posted in the P10 Plus section?
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Haha. Thanks. I'll change the heading..

I'm also sitting here with a V20 and boy do I regret getting this phone.. Even though I have root and am able to flash a couple of custom ROMS availlble for my device, I'm still not one bit satisfied with this phone. GPS totally sucks! I'm being navigated to a location and all of the sudden I hear nothing because the app is "looking for GPS signal" and never locks in... This happens in both stock and custom (with updated GPS files)
I'm really attracted to the P10 Plus and am really considering in purchasing the phone. I don't think we'll know about dev until a little bit more time passes as this phone is still a little bit new.

I've come to the P10 Plus from the LG G6, which I REALLY didn't like, and I'm happy to confirm that it's a great device. Superb camera, really nice feel and design (I have the blue diamond cut version), and it's much smoother than the LG in handling tasks. Battery is ok, but I'm still in that new phone, constantly tweaking, phase, so I'll see what happens when I revert back to normal usage. I can definitely recommend getting one if you're on the fence about it.

Cocytan said:
I've come to the P10 Plus from the LG G6, which I REALLY didn't like, and I'm happy to confirm that it's a great device. Superb camera, really nice feel and design (I have the blue diamond cut version), and it's much smoother than the LG in handling tasks. Battery is ok, but I'm still in that new phone, constantly tweaking, phase, so I'll see what happens when I revert back to normal usage. I can definitely recommend getting one if you're on the fence about it.
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Thank you! I really appreciate it your input!
Where did you purchase yours from? I'm in the USA, not too sure which version to purchase for full LTE speeds on AT&T hmm

I live and work in China, so not too hard for me to get hold of one here, lol - they're EVERYWHERE at the moment, big push for them before the S8 hits

I picked one up myself. I'm loving the camera, but i haven't made it my daily driver yet as i'm patiently waiting for a new rom and recovery. Almost went with OPPO but they are really locking down their devices.

How do you guys find battery life and standby?

Standby appears to be great. Battery... Not so much. BUT! I'm still in the honeymoon phase with phone, so it is getting used a lot. I'll post again in a few days when I have taught myself not to keep playing with it. The phone too

Love this p10 plus!

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I live and work in China .... they're EVERYWHERE at the moment, big push for them before the S8 hits
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Surprising regional strategy by Huawei....as Samsung is as big as Apple here, yet their AUS region service people and marketing know nothing st all, so that's as good as not even existing. They need to start pushing in countries where LG is doing well, because there's people who will ditch their sh*tty brand and lack of dev support for their models in favour of this phone:
Cocytan said:
I've come to the P10 Plus from the LG G6, which I REALLY didn't like, and I'm happy to confirm that it's a great device ...I can definitely recommend getting one if you're on the fence about it.
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Another unsatisfied LG customer.
xxxrichievxxx said:
I'm also sitting here with a V20 and boy do I regret getting this phone..
I'm really attracted to the P10 Plus and am really considering in purchasing the phone. I don't think we'll know about dev until a little bit more time passes as this phone is still a little bit new.
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Yep! You and me both. Except YOU are enjoying root at the very least...you can't have DUAL SIM and root, so I'm looking to ditch this sooner rather than later.
Anyone able to post any videos of using NFC or the LED notification light? Want to see how either it is to detect and its brightness, etc.
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Cocytan said:
Standby appears to be great. Battery... Not so much. BUT! I'm still in the honeymoon phase with phone, so it is getting used a lot. I'll post again in a few days when I have taught myself not to keep playing with it. The phone too
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any updates on battery life?

Im lookin at this phone also.. But I need some screen on time shots and battery usage to know how well it fares with the competition. Also how dev friendly is Huawei?? I've never used a Kirin soc before. I have not seen benches on it too. Anyone post any yet?
I had an S7 Edge Qualcomm but screen wanted to get a pink line down it so I sold it off. (I had lineage booting on it) Tried Dual sim LG V20 for a few days.. absolutely hated that phone. So I'm shopping around trying to find my next phone I want to bring Lineage to.

Seems Huawei forums are dead on here until months after release. I wonder how hard it is to employ someone, part time, as a social media marketing expert who jumps on these places, lends their time every so often and PROMOTES their product, PUSHES it to people, COMPARES against the competition. Rather than just waiting for people to spend big dollars to get their hands on it, dislike it (if they do, for whatever reason), and then sell it? There's just no useful information that can be obtained on here yet...
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How will updates be? Like Nexus/Pixel line?

One of the strong points of the Nexus and Pixel line is that you can get frequent updates (https://developers.google.com/android/images). How will the updates look like from Essential? One time upgrade, and then abandon us? Or frequent ASOP updates with fixes?

Whatever they may say about it, we won't really know until the updates come or not. It's being said it's either very close to stock or stock so getting upgrades out should be easy enough in a practical sense.

I'm pretty sure Rubin said in his hour long interview witih Walt Mossberg that it would get regular month security updates, if not better.
The bigger concern is how long will they support the phone for? Just two or three years like Google (making the phone insecure and obsolete after that)? Or five years like Apple? Even more importantly, what if they just don't succeed. If the company folds after a year or two, there will certainly be no updates after that. That's a chance one takes with a new company.

The community will carry it for a while if they move enough of them. As to Rubin, the proof is in the pudding. We've been sold the regular updates thing before and never actually got them or had them stop short. Time will tell.

I don't see updates being a problem. It seems to pretty much be stock Android with a few added features for the cameras and their modules to be released.

Right, but the question is how long they will lag. Lots of manufacturers make claims about updates.
Have they made any statements?

I played with one yesterday and it is almost completely stock 7.1.1 except for the camera software and the little bits in the code that control the modules. I see Andy making sure this gets updated to Oreo by the time the new pixels drop. that is 2 months out. dont quote me though

This is what I wanted to know, since its basically stock. Will it get Oreo (Android 8.0) fairly soon?

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This is what I wanted to know, since its basically stock. Will it get Oreo (Android 8.0) fairly soon?
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Considering how Android Oreo is built I say there is a good chance of quickish updates. 8.0 keeps the make Android code separate from any customizations now. They leave the hooks open do to your own thing besides their code. I think this is why Andy went super stock with 7.1.1 to make it easier later on and they can do more customization leader with their software because it will be easier after Oreo.
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MKBHD and I were talking to one of their software engineers (who use to work for Google as well) at the event on Monday and he told us they were already working on Oreo. In MKBHD's unboxing and first impressions video he mentioned a few of the things that were talked about in that discussion like it being easier to quickly update because it's so close to stock etc.. Although, once they release their home device with Ambient OS I bet we see more customizations on the phone firmware to accommodate that

One thing I question, why 7.1.1 vs 7.1.2? .2 offered a few neat last bit of features before 8.0 so its interesting why almost all OEM's have stuck with 1.1 before possibly jumping to 8.0.

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One thing I question, why 7.1.1 vs 7.1.2? .2 offered a few neat last bit of features before 8.0 so its interesting why almost all OEM's have stuck with 1.1 before possibly jumping to 8.0.
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Unless I'm reading it wrong it looks like the 7.1.2 update was targeted for Nexus and Pixel devices. Most of the fixes fix issues specific to those devices so why would an OEM port an update that doesn't affect their device.
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superchilpil said:
Unless I'm reading it wrong it looks like the 7.1.2 update was targeted for Nexus and Pixel devices. Most of the fixes fix issues specific to those devices so why would an OEM port an update that doesn't affect their device.
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This may be true, but it did also bring thins like the long touch shortcut feature as well as the fingerprint sensor swipe feature that may work on other hardware that had the same sensor hardware.
It's not a big deal, and though we have 8.0 now, I might want to wait a bit for Google to release a update to that as well hearing what I am from early adopters that have 8.0 now on their Pixel's. New features and battery life improvements plagued with persistent notifications, worse BT, and other odds and bits that seem like rushed bugs.
Exactly what I would expect from Version X.0 for a major OS change so not surprising at all.

cb474 said:
I'm pretty sure Rubin said in his hour long interview witih Walt Mossberg that it would get regular month security updates, if not better.
The bigger concern is how long will they support the phone for? Just two or three years like Google (making the phone insecure and obsolete after that)? Or five years like Apple? Even more importantly, what if they just don't succeed. If the company folds after a year or two, there will certainly be no updates after that. That's a chance one takes with a new company.
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A very valid concern. Especially since these sorts of people and companies throw a bunch of money at stuff and if it doesnt look like it is going to get the giant return on the investment they hope within a year or so then they do shut it down and move on to their next big thing.
My other concern with this is if we will get full kernel source or not as well. I would assume yes, since Andy helped make the deal about Andsroid being so open and sources available, but you never know with phone OEMs. Even though this is basically stock ROM, I bet the kernel source will be needed so we can interface the best with the accessory pins and make use of the custom camera stuff.

EniGmA1987 said:
A very valid concern. Especially since these sorts of people and companies throw a bunch of money at stuff and if it doesnt look like it is going to get the giant return on the investment they hope within a year or so then they do shut it down and move on to their next big thing.
My other concern with this is if we will get full kernel source or not as well. I would assume yes, since Andy helped make the deal about Andsroid being so open and sources available, but you never know with phone OEMs. Even though this is basically stock ROM, I bet the kernel source will be needed so we can interface the best with the accessory pins and make use of the custom camera stuff.
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Also, even if they make the kernel source available, will the phone be popular with developers? It seems like the sort of phone that might. As you say, Rubin is very supportive of open source (even on the hardware for the modules). But on the other hand, it's an expensive and quirky phone. Even the Pixel (with its huge price jump and move away from the Nexus brand) took much longer to catch on with developers than previous Nexus phones had. I'm hoping the devs like it.

What's your ETA for the Android O update?

So, a few sources say that our devices will receive the Android O update very soon and to pass the time, why not share our expected or assumed OTA roll-out dates? I think that we will receive the update by the end of this month. What about you?

Agreed. I think they will probably release a rollback package or something like that with the original firmware to go along with it (7.0).

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Sources say that our devices will receive the Android O update very soon?
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https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-oreo-emui-8-pro-9i-7x/
Have Patience...
Don't Root..

They've said Q1, I'll go with February

entirely irrelevant.... it's coming
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Hua...o-Honor-8-Lite-Honor-9i-and-Honor-7X_id101611

Thanks a lot

optionalmgrr.la said:
entirely irrelevant.... it's coming
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Hua...o-Honor-8-Lite-Honor-9i-and-Honor-7X_id101611
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It's ironic how you say this topic is irrelevant when you only reply with, "it's coming" which indicates absolutely nothing. This is a thread for everyone's expected ETA as the official rollout date is still unannounced. On another note, hopefully I won't deal with dense users like I did on the Le 2 forums, shudders.
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It's coming along with face unlock
Hope camera is tweek'd as well very dull
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From everything that I've read and taking Honor's past into consideration I think we may have to wait until March, which makes little to sense to me.
Why isn't Honor putting a little more effort into marketing this device? I've bought a half a dozen so far, primarily for friends that were still using phones from 3-5 years ago. They all love it and of course, coming from older devices, they feel like this device is a flagship!
Only real thing I miss is NFC, but my watch has it. 2.4 GHz is what I use for everything but my video streaming devices. I really could care less it still has a MicroUSB port.

badmark said:
From everything that I've read and taking Honor's past into consideration I think we may have to wait until March, which makes little to sense to me.
Why isn't Honor putting a little more effort into marketing this device? I've bought a half a dozen so far, primarily for friends that were still using phones from 3-5 years ago. They all love it and of course, coming from older devices, they feel like this device is a flagship!
Only real thing I miss is NFC, but my watch has it. 2.4 GHz is what I use for everything but my video streaming devices. I really could care less it still has a MicroUSB port.
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Your Comments Caught My Eye...
You seem to be a very Nice and Thoughtful friend.. To purchased not only 1 of these devices for yourself.. but to gift over $1,200.00 U.S.D. / 985 EURO's to friends to update their devices.. is truly a friend indeed :good:
Since you are obviously a man of means... what brought you to this budget device in the Honor 7X ?
It's certainly not the fastest..
Or.. has the best display...
Or.. the most RAM..
Why not the View 10, Huawei Mate 10 Pro, One Plus 5T, Pixel, S8, Note 8 ???
What brought a man of your means to the Honor 7X.. I'm really curious to know if you don't mind sharing..

As a software developer I own a plethora of devices and usually carry a minimum of 2 devices. Generally I am very conscious of the condition of my devices and despite the fact the majority of them never leave an office environment, they are all plastered in screen protectors and cases, it seems like they become more fragile every year. The S8 has been my secondary to my Pixel XL 2 since I got it, but as soon as I received the Honor 7X I put the S8 in the drawer. The 7X runs naked and I'm not worried about dropping it. It has enough of what I need. I run package Disabler and remove most of EMUI and Huawei's bloat, with Pixel launcher installed, I have a very close to stock Android on a rugged unit that's as tough as a 90s Nokia!

Don't support Samsung's Never no updates.

Please all give your support, if you all so are sick and tired, for having paid nearly 1000$ for a phone that still is on Android Nougat 7.0. If we are lucky some will maybe get Oreo in marts, but more likely first after launch of Samsung Galaxy 9.
I will never buy Samsung phone again for sure. Overpaid switzerknife.

Most of us are already running Oreo on our devices

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Please all give your support, if you all so are sick and tired, for having paid nearly 1000$ for a phone that still is on Android Nougat 7.0. If we are lucky some will maybe get Oreo in marts, but more likely first after launch of Samsung Galaxy 9.
I will never buy Samsung phone again for sure. Overpaid switzerknife.
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You only have yourself to blame, should have done your research before you buy a phone, sure Samsung don't haven't the fastest release cycle but this is not something new, you must have a lot money to throw money around willy nilly without doing your own due diligence 1st.

We've had Android phones for eight years. You should know by now which brands release updates faster than others. And Samsung isn't one of them.
That being said, I'm in no hurry to get Android Oreo. Nougat is one of the best Android has ever released, and it's working extremely well on my S7 and S8. Besides, they've been releasing security patches quite regularly, so they can release Oreo whenever they feel is ready.

What on earth gave you the idea that anyone cared in slightest what you think about samsungs release schedule, moreso what you plan purchasing or not purchasing (as the case may be)
Seriously i want to know so that i can hopefully make them stop.
Maybe a mod will see this and grant my second place wish, which is to lock this thread as not only does it not ask a question or answer one, it has no positive value whatsoever.

Sorry man people are right ! Samsung is not the fastest to give update but they aways bring the upadate for example oreo will be out at the end of february if you dont like to wait costom roms wit oreo as many as you like in here.....

Why when they do reviews they never complain about Bloat and no Updates?
It is like no reviewer has a clue..... S7, S8, S9
You get one update maybe 6 months after it is released. Yes Oreo is out 9 months after it was released, good luck getting the next release after Oreo.
You do not want any Samsung Apps .... good luck disabling them.
Me I am going with the next Pixel Phone I have had it with Samsung.

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What on earth gave you the idea that anyone cared in slightest what you think about samsungs release schedule, moreso what you plan purchasing or not purchasing (as the case may be)
Seriously i want to know so that i can hopefully make them stop.
Maybe a mod will see this and grant my second place wish, which is to lock this thread as not only does it not ask a question or answer one, it has no positive value whatsoever.
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Why would you respond if you didn't care? ?

To be honest, for myself, having the newest Android isn't a problem.
I prefer having a phone with good overall hardware and processing capabilities. Also, so far, nothing very important comes to android oreo.
For instance, I prefer having a S8, 700~$ android nougat phone with Samsung Dex capabilities and great camera rather than having another brand, 500-600$ish android oreo phone with mediocre camera and hardware.

Exactly! There's so much to enjoy the S7 and S8 with Nougat.

I have oreo on my s8 and there isnt really a whole lot new, some, but not a lot.

I researched heavily into update releases, I originally bought the Sony XZ1 Compact with Oreo as Sony are supposedly really good at updates and to be honest they arent bad but the default Oreo software on those phones is seriously flawed with constant reboots on a number of exchanged devices. I ended up with Samsung as for the price they are ok, not super slow but not super fast and I've got a great little phone too.
Pixel 2 was a lot more expensive at the point I upgraded but if not Id have gone for that purely because of the updates.
My only disappointment with my S8 is the curved screen which looks great but serves no real purpose and inhibits the use of glass screen protectors. I now have to use a bulky wrap around case or take a big expensive risk. If it had a flat screen it would have been easy to get a screen protector for it. Oreo is great and im waiting for the final release too but I already have the beta and would be happy with Nougat too if I wasnt in beta.

This thread is closed As it is not a Question And no Good will ever come of this thread

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Nokia 7 Plus, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Nokia 7 Plus is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

This is a great phone, love it:good:

Well if HMD isn't going to show North America any consideration, i think i might just import this phone - even with no LTE support.
The last time i imported a phone unreleased in the US was the Nokia N80 and it was one of my favourite phones to date.

I do hope they're going to provide a possibility to unlock the bootloader. But i bought it anyway because it seemed just to good for it's price.
And so far i love it!
It looks so damn sexy, feels great and performs very well.
I only have it for a small week now but i really love it.
Performs well in games also without heating up and so far the camera is very good as well.
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matthewkuhl said:
Well if HMD isn't going to show North America any consideration, i think i might just import this phone - even with no LTE support.
The last time i imported a phone unreleased in the US was the Nokia N80 and it was one of my favourite phones to date.
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You can get the Chinese variant because it has band 4 LTE according to gsmarena and you will get LTE in NA.

With no Google services? No thanks
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You can get the Chinese variant because it has band 4 LTE according to gsmarena and you will get LTE in NA.
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With no Google services? No thanks.

Pollie81 said:
I do hope they're going to provide a possibility to unlock the bootloader. But i bought it anyway because it seemed just to good for it's price.
And so far i love it!
It looks so damn sexy, feels great and performs very well.
I only have it for a small week now but i really love it.
Performs well in games also without heating up and so far the camera is very good as well.
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Can u post some sample Portrait shots taken with Human subject?
Also did u try the official way to unlock bootloader? Since its an Android One device?

matthewkuhl said:
Well if HMD isn't going to show North America any consideration, i think i might just import this phone - even with no LTE support.
The last time i imported a phone unreleased in the US was the Nokia N80 and it was one of my favourite phones to date.
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U can alway import from country where it is going to launch soon.I think India is closest within 2 weeks on 22 april ie 10 days from now on. Pre-order are going on in germany too. Ucan try there as well

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U can alway import from country where it is going to launch soon.I think India is closest within 2 weeks on 22 april ie 10 days from now on. Pre-order are going on in germany too. Ucan try there as well
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What still in preorders? We have the phone here available since maybe 3 weeks.

DgnrtnX said:
U can alway import from country where it is going to launch soon.I think India is closest within 2 weeks on 22 april ie 10 days from now on. Pre-order are going on in germany too. Ucan try there as well
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Perhaps you missed that LTE support was the ideal scenario.
As a last resort, i would import from Europe - but the global ROM on a Chinese variant is a far more enticing prospect for at least ONE North American LTE band.

A mini-review.
A mini-review from a Nokia fan!
Cheers:highfive:

Bought this phone, and returned it. Absence of notification LED is an absurd omission.

Imaginos.88 said:
Bought this phone, and returned it. Absence of notification LED is an absurd omission.
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That's my only gripe with the phone(and the bootloader unlock uncertainty) but that can be address with some apps, future updates to the ambient display functionality or just a minor adjustment from our part.
I wasn't sure I could live without the led and even tried some apps but the reality is, after one week, I did not miss any more notifications that I was already missing with my last phone. For now this is the phone I've should have bought after leaving the Nexus 5. But hey, lesson learned, I'm not buying another Xiaomi, that's for sure...

I bought black/copper version yesterday and man I'm loving this phone. Coming from OnePlus 3T. I kinda wished that notification light, but I have allready forgotten "need" for that. Yes. it's convinient to have it, but lifting phone to check notifications is quick. Or you can double tap screen to wake screen and see whole notifications.
I think there could be place to optimize os a bit further. There are minor lags and hungups here and there. I know that we are dealing with S660, but I feel like these could be addressed by optimizing os.
I feel sort of nostalgic to have Nokia phone again after so many years. Last Nokia phone was 5800 XpressMusic and man that phone sucked quite many way.

Beautiful phone. Got this from 2 days ago and I am surprised.
I don't need notification led .
I love battery capacity and Android One
The phone is very smooth and 8.1 response very fast with SD660.
The only minus is volte and vowifi for my carrier.

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That's my only gripe with the phone(and the bootloader unlock uncertainty) but that can be address with some apps, future updates to the ambient display functionality or just a minor adjustment from our part.
I wasn't sure I could live without the led and even tried some apps but the reality is, after one week, I did not miss any more notifications that I was already missing with my last phone. For now this is the phone I've should have bought after leaving the Nexus 5. But hey, lesson learned, I'm not buying another Xiaomi, that's for sure...
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I just can't live without it. I don't know how many times a day I glance the phone, especially from a distance.
I don't understand the logic behind not having a notification LED.

Imaginos.88 said:
I just can't live without it. I don't know how many times a day I glance the phone, especially from a distance.
I don't understand the logic behind not having a notification LED.
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C'mon mate in these days all the people around the world are checking their phones regularly.It's became already a bad habit.
In my point of view the notification led is history...

Quite a nice phone. I'm still unsure whether I'm going to return it or not, but for now I'm keen on keeping it.
I was looking for a replacement for my [too heavily modded and slowly killed of - sorry mate...] Xiaomi Mi5 in the 400 euro price range, and I think I actually found it.
Feels great in the hand, weight and everything, the big screen is really nice, the camera is pretty good, the audio is good enough for my ears, with 2.5h+ sot and two configurations with lots of backed up data/one factory reset + 8.1 update while still having 60% battery is really nice (all the while being on data) and the stock Android is just perfect for me, would not want more. My only gripes would be the slight hangs in scrolling speed, when it tries up to lazy load the next scrolling page (the mi5 was not as obvious as the nokia when it tried to do this), the slight lag when opening the recents tab and the slight delay when unlocking with the fingerprint reader, but I suppose this is something I can go by with.
Why did I go for the Nokia when I could've go for last year's flagships? I honestly wanted a newer chipset, stock Android (without any flashing in between) at an affordable price, and I think this hits the marks.

I feel depressed af. After using a device with the worst community ever(it did not even have a dedicated XDA forum) I bought this, now with release of Moto g6 series and Nokia x6 I feel angry and depressed at the same time. What the **** is wrong with Nokia why the **** would they release x6 when they already have the 7 plus. The x6 has better specs, better designfor a lesser price. But the thing that really makes me angry is that there is no distinctive feature about this phone. To top that there are so less accessories for this phone and the ones available are not even good. There are no skins available for this phone either and even if they will be available all the copper on the phone will make the phone look ridiculous. Now the x6 is released for lesser price and by the number of people who bought it or pre ordered it, it looks like it will have a better accessories.l, and the glass back also looks better than the 7 plus. You may say the 7 plus is an Android one phone but Nokia releases different updates to different regions where some regions have certain features and some not. To sum it up the phone is good but with no option to unlock bootloader and no market for accessories it sucks.

KraCkaVeli33 said:
I feel depressed af. After using a device with the worst community ever(it did not even have a dedicated XDA forum) I bought this, now with release of Moto g6 series and Nokia x6 I feel angry and depressed at the same time. What the **** is wrong with Nokia why the **** would they release x6 when they already have the 7 plus. The x6 has better specs, better designfor a lesser price. But the thing that really makes me angry is that there is no distinctive feature about this phone. To top that there are so less accessories for this phone and the ones available are not even good. There are no skins available for this phone either and even if they will be available all the copper on the phone will make the phone look ridiculous. Now the x6 is released for lesser price and by the number of people who bought it or pre ordered it, it looks like it will have a better accessories.l, and the glass back also looks better than the 7 plus. You may say the 7 plus is an Android one phone but Nokia releases different updates to different regions where some regions have certain features and some not. To sum it up the phone is good but with no option to unlock bootloader and no market for accessories it sucks.
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I'm not sure where you are heading.
The X6 has worse chipset, worse camera specs, having glass back is not a plus in my book (breaks easily). I've been able to find alle covers etc on aliexpress/ebay for my 7+ needs.
But it's a shame with the lack up updates for some people, big bummer by Nokia there, they should release updates worldwide for everybody at same time. And locked bootloader etc is a shame too. But overall I'm very happy with the phone.