This will be a bit of a rant/cry for help. Caution:
I've about had it with this Shield TV controller. I'm almost to the point of "downgrading" to a Shield K1 tablet and using it in console mode.
My Shield TV controller seems to encounter some sort of compatibility issue on every other game I purchase. Snowboard Party 2 won't let me use the "grab" button at all. Zen Pinball's flappers won't work. And let's not forget that they disabled the mousepad on the controller, which would solve MANY issues with compatibility in games/apps.
Then you add the fact that MANY popular android games that work with the Shield Tablet won't work with the Shield TV. It must be an architecture problem, since both use the same gamepad, right?
I'd root the thing and be on my way but then I won't get wireless controller support, which is a must.
Can anybody help me out or offer some guidance about their experience with this device? It has so much potential and I hate to give up on it.
it's not an architecture problem, it's due to the Shield Android TV running Google's Android TV OS instead of vanilla Android. The result is semi-shoddy support for some apps , and some incompatibilities with others, generally the result of "game made for this device" is dependent whether or not the dev slapped on a tiny chunk of code identifying it as Android TV compatible.
As to the touchpad compatibility issue, it's due to the fact that Google wrote the framework of Android-TV (which is android based) as being a NON-Touch OS which they opted to remove all touch feature compatibility and when Nvidia was either asked by google , or they asked google , to be able to use the Android TV OS , one rule Google's android teams said was that the touchpad feature of the controller was incompatible with the OS. Funny thing is the first 1-2 versions of Android TV didn't disable the touchpad of the controller as a mouse. It actually worked, until an update. I looked into it some months back, and according to some other people who were in talks with tech support from Nvidia, they said it's due to google demanding that there be no touch hardware on an Android TV device and they considered the touchpad on the controller to be a touch device.
the solution of course is to root / hack the shield android tv and flash a more vanilla android ROM , with support for the controller and Nvidia libraries.
for what it's worth, I use a wireless USB mouse and sometimes a keyboard as well, both of which work fine on the shield android tv (stock)
Ugg just came across this issue with Stickman Skate Battle. Odd thing is that it is built for using a controller, it just does not register the Shield controller. It is not a touch based game issue, so it has to be something else.
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Just read my solution on GeForce forum, had to unplug my other device from the usb port, as it was registering as player 1... Which really sucks, as I use that (Mele F10 Deluxe) as my main remote for everything nongaming...
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Can someone please recommend me a really good remote control for the Ouya?
I mostly use Ouya for XBMC and I really hate the Ouya controller, but would like to use a remote control to control the Ouya's main menu & XBMC. Does a remote controller exist for the ouya?
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I would think if you found a Bluetooth remote you could make it work
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I am holding off on a remote until after the next ouya firmware update. They specifically say they are working on HDMI-CEC next ...this feature works great on my raspberry pi xbmc, I just use my TV remote to control xbmc and tv seamlessly
CEC sounds awesome. but - "CEC wiring is mandatory, although implementation of CEC in a product is optional." - does that mean that the TV has to support it, or the ouya has to have it? or both? (i.e. is the new tv I bought last month already out of date?!)
I have been using a cheap Rii BT kbd/trackpad. the trackpad is fairly awful, just all over the place. which is surprising since it works 100% perfect when paired to Windoze laptop. the ouya controller touchpad, in comparison, is nearly perfect.
also been trying one of those PS3 BT+IR remotes - no luck so far, even with all the helpful guides.
I think the main problem is using typical android apps, and also the more-usual android launchers. the sticks/buttons on the ouya controller are often (surprisingly) non-functional when using xbmc or actual android apps (including the settings menu). whereas a BT or USB kbd/mouse is occasionally non-functional using the default ouya UI.
thanks everybody for your replies.
I ended up following this guide http://ouyaforum.com/showthread.php?8670-PS3-BD-Remote-XBMC
And now I'm currently using my PS3 Bluetooth Remote Control (which was collecting dust since I haven't used it in years) which works far superior than I ever hoped for. It works flawlessly through the Ouya interface and XBMC
baxy said:
I am holding off on a remote until after the next ouya firmware update. They specifically say they are working on HDMI-CEC next ...this feature works great on my raspberry pi xbmc, I just use my TV remote to control xbmc and tv seamlessly
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Can you confirm theyre working on it or said they were, cant find it anywhere.
EFEXR said:
thanks everybody for your replies.
I ended up following this guide http://ouyaforum.com/showthread.php?8670-PS3-BD-Remote-XBMC
And now I'm currently using my PS3 Bluetooth Remote Control (which was collecting dust since I haven't used it in years) which works far superior than I ever hoped for. It works flawlessly through the Ouya interface and XBMC
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wait till the remote falls asleep then you'll think differently.
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Can you confirm theyre working on it or said they were, cant find it anywhere.
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Did you check the ouya website?
see here https://www.ouya.tv/ouya-system-hotfix-for-abominable-snowman-december-18-2013/
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tarvoke said:
CEC sounds awesome. but - "CEC wiring is mandatory, although implementation of CEC in a product is optional." - does that mean that the TV has to support it, or the ouya has to have it? or both? (i.e. is the new tv I bought last month already out of date?!)
I have been using a cheap Rii BT kbd/trackpad. the trackpad is fairly awful, just all over the place. which is surprising since it works 100% perfect when paired to Windoze laptop. the ouya controller touchpad, in comparison, is nearly perfect.
also been trying one of those PS3 BT+IR remotes - no luck so far, even with all the helpful guides.
I think the main problem is using typical android apps, and also the more-usual android launchers. the sticks/buttons on the ouya controller are often (surprisingly) non-functional when using xbmc or actual android apps (including the settings menu). whereas a BT or USB kbd/mouse is occasionally non-functional using the default ouya UI.
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Both devices must support it. Almost all recent name brand TV support it i believe although they call it different names ie:Sony call it BraviaLink
Just came off live chat with someone at nvidia about the "up to four controller support". Anyways, turns out nvidia's "up to four controller support is only for android games and doesn't include streamed pc games (as of yet). Really wish nvidia had mentioned this somewhere. So anyone trying to use more than one controller in console mode for game steaming, it's not available atm and it seems like they don't know when it will be sorted either (a limitation of all shield devices apparently).
(I have the chat log but unfortunately can't post it as a new user)
Yeah unfortunately i found this out the hard way after buying 2 controllers, but at least i now have one for my desk and one for the bag when im on the go
UPDATE: Okay the latest update to the Nvidia Shield Hub has fixed this issue. I've tested it and it works amazingly!
Yes, it is now fixed for pc streaming.
Still waiting for multiple gamepad support in Grid...
I've installed full Android on my shield TV. I have an issue with extreme lag using a ps4 and shield gamepads usb wired. Its very strange because in the stock Android interface everything works flawless. But when I use GeForce Now i get extreme lag on button presses where i have to hold face buttons for about 2 seconds to get a response. But this only happens when a game is loaded. When im in the GeForce Now Menu my conttoller works and response is fine. Same thing with RetroArch. Ive tried bluetooth with my PS4 controller and I get the same result.
Also, how would i be able to get my Shield gamepad working wirelessly?? I heard something about using with droidmote client server but its not really clear to me.
Can somebody help me figure this out? I switched to Full Android for more freedom and apps but if I cant use my controllers then i will have to revert to rooted stock firmware for my shield.
You're probably going to want to go back to stock firmware then. There is no fix for getting the Nvidia wireless controllers working with Full Android. This is due to the closed source nature of the wireless controller drivers.
But what about other controllers like PS4? I heard PS4 can work wirelessy and Shield controller can work wired
I was going to go and buy a steam link to play my PC games downstairs but saw that the Mad Catz Mojo is only £20 more and comes with a controller.
Doing a quick google search I found some mention of game streaming available on the Mojo:
Can't add links but there is an article on techradar.com & engadget.com saying gamestream will be included in the Mojos firmware updates.
However these both seem quite outdated and I can't see any information stating that it was implemented in the end.
Has anyone got game streaming to work smoothly on the Mojo? Perhaps through limelight / moonlight? I have a gtx 970 so should be good to go.
I use my Shield TV with gamestream in the bedroom with no issues however don't want to spend another £120 if I can get away with £60 for the Mojo.
This works very well with the splashtop software. I use antimicro zu remap the controller buttons. you can even emulate a mouse.
but keep in mind, you have to do everything yourself, the shield is a lot easier to use.
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moonlight works great with for example remix OS. As far as i know it also works on unrooted Mojo.
With LAN connection 1080p and 60fps works like a charme.
If game streaming is your primary intention, then I would recommend sticking with the NVIDIA Shield. If you buy the MOJO, you can definitely stream games at the same quality as the Shield, but it takes a lot of work to get the MOJO working at full capacity, whereas, the Shield is all ready to go out of the box.
I upgraded the stock firmware shipped with the MOJO to CyanogenMod 12.1. The stock firmware had issues with freezing and really wasn't running at the full potential that the MOJO had to offer. After upgrading it has been a breeze, with the exception of a few small hiccups. But again, this is a lot more work than getting a Shield for the extra dollars more, except that the MOJO can likely do more with regards to Emulation, Movies, Social Media, etc.
I use Moonlight Streaming from a GTX 650 on a Wireless AC network, and it works great with the included controller. I originally tried using Remotr and it lagged like crazy. The support that the controller has with the Gamesmart technology is incredibly impressive. It seems to 'just know' exactly how the controls should be mapped with basic common sense. With that said, if your intention is to stream games from Steam that already have full controller support, then this feature doesn't really bring anything special to the table.
Just wanted to know if there has been any updates on the Nvidia Shield TVs' support for the Xbox One S controller? I don't really like the feel of the Shield controller and I've always liked the Xbox controllers, so I'm considering purchasing a couple of them to use for GameStream on the Nvidia Shield.
I've read posts on here and various other forums about how well this controller works, and came to the following conclusion:
#1: You need to update the controller to the latest firmware to fix button mapping.
#2: The controller needs to be re-paired each time the Shield reboots.
#3: Rumble doesn't work.
Is #2 and #3 still the case? Or has that been solved recently? If not, can you recommend me another wireless controller that works well with the Shield?