Can someone please recommend me a really good remote control for the Ouya?
I mostly use Ouya for XBMC and I really hate the Ouya controller, but would like to use a remote control to control the Ouya's main menu & XBMC. Does a remote controller exist for the ouya?
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I would think if you found a Bluetooth remote you could make it work
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I am holding off on a remote until after the next ouya firmware update. They specifically say they are working on HDMI-CEC next ...this feature works great on my raspberry pi xbmc, I just use my TV remote to control xbmc and tv seamlessly
CEC sounds awesome. but - "CEC wiring is mandatory, although implementation of CEC in a product is optional." - does that mean that the TV has to support it, or the ouya has to have it? or both? (i.e. is the new tv I bought last month already out of date?!)
I have been using a cheap Rii BT kbd/trackpad. the trackpad is fairly awful, just all over the place. which is surprising since it works 100% perfect when paired to Windoze laptop. the ouya controller touchpad, in comparison, is nearly perfect.
also been trying one of those PS3 BT+IR remotes - no luck so far, even with all the helpful guides.
I think the main problem is using typical android apps, and also the more-usual android launchers. the sticks/buttons on the ouya controller are often (surprisingly) non-functional when using xbmc or actual android apps (including the settings menu). whereas a BT or USB kbd/mouse is occasionally non-functional using the default ouya UI.
thanks everybody for your replies.
I ended up following this guide http://ouyaforum.com/showthread.php?8670-PS3-BD-Remote-XBMC
And now I'm currently using my PS3 Bluetooth Remote Control (which was collecting dust since I haven't used it in years) which works far superior than I ever hoped for. It works flawlessly through the Ouya interface and XBMC
baxy said:
I am holding off on a remote until after the next ouya firmware update. They specifically say they are working on HDMI-CEC next ...this feature works great on my raspberry pi xbmc, I just use my TV remote to control xbmc and tv seamlessly
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Can you confirm theyre working on it or said they were, cant find it anywhere.
EFEXR said:
thanks everybody for your replies.
I ended up following this guide http://ouyaforum.com/showthread.php?8670-PS3-BD-Remote-XBMC
And now I'm currently using my PS3 Bluetooth Remote Control (which was collecting dust since I haven't used it in years) which works far superior than I ever hoped for. It works flawlessly through the Ouya interface and XBMC
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wait till the remote falls asleep then you'll think differently.
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Can you confirm theyre working on it or said they were, cant find it anywhere.
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Did you check the ouya website?
see here https://www.ouya.tv/ouya-system-hotfix-for-abominable-snowman-december-18-2013/
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tarvoke said:
CEC sounds awesome. but - "CEC wiring is mandatory, although implementation of CEC in a product is optional." - does that mean that the TV has to support it, or the ouya has to have it? or both? (i.e. is the new tv I bought last month already out of date?!)
I have been using a cheap Rii BT kbd/trackpad. the trackpad is fairly awful, just all over the place. which is surprising since it works 100% perfect when paired to Windoze laptop. the ouya controller touchpad, in comparison, is nearly perfect.
also been trying one of those PS3 BT+IR remotes - no luck so far, even with all the helpful guides.
I think the main problem is using typical android apps, and also the more-usual android launchers. the sticks/buttons on the ouya controller are often (surprisingly) non-functional when using xbmc or actual android apps (including the settings menu). whereas a BT or USB kbd/mouse is occasionally non-functional using the default ouya UI.
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Both devices must support it. Almost all recent name brand TV support it i believe although they call it different names ie:Sony call it BraviaLink
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I have been following various threads on the Onlivefans.com forum about using an Android device to play Onlive games and mapping hardware buttons to software controls. None are perfect and do not play the games I would like. Now the Sony Tablet S is compatible with Onlive using a real PS3 controller. The Sony Tablet S is a Playstation Certified tablet. What would I have to modify on my Nook Color to make it think it is a Tablet S? I already have Sixaxis Controller app to allow bluetooth connectivity to my PS3 controller and it works great for all my emulators. I am really hoping this will let me avoid a $50 purchase of Onlive's official Universal Controller.
Thoughts? Ideas? Thanks in advance.
could you clarify what you mean when you say bluetooth works fine? I was under the impression that book's bt radio was too weak to even keyboard properly?
there are apps on market that allow you to spoof other devices but if it is a hardware or driver limitation you might be able to usb joystick it
The bluetooth has worked great with my PS3 controller. I have used it up to 3 feet away with no issue. I have not tried to use two controllers at once but it seems technically possible.
I guess my real question is, does anyone have a build.prop from a Sony Tablet S and I will try asking in one of those forums.
The PS3 controller works a little bit while using OnLive but they do not allow you to map keys. They want you to use their controller only.
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The bluetooth has worked great with my PS3 controller. I have used it up to 3 feet away with no issue. I have not tried to use two controllers at once but it seems technically possible.
I guess my real question is, does anyone have a build.prop from a Sony Tablet S and I will try asking in one of those forums.
The PS3 controller works a little bit while using OnLive but they do not allow you to map keys. They want you to use their controller only.
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The sixaxis app says it lets you connect four controller but the nook apparently only recognizes one at a time.
This is not possible, correct? There is no IR "receiver" on the unit IIRC.
This will determine whether I put the Ouya in the main TV room where it's used by my wife and parents when they're over babysitting. Right now, I have the Apple TV2 and it's programmed in my Harmony so it's easy for them to use.
So, just to be sure, this can't be programmed with a universal remote?
There's no IR receiver, so the only think that comes to mind is a USB IR receiver, even then dunno what the remote would be able to actually control.
has anyone gotten cec to work with the ouya. there was a discussion on the ouya devs forum about it. cant post the link apparently
I'm curious if this would work. It's a universal remote with bluetooth for a ps3
can't post a url, but the product is SMK-Link Blu-Link - Universal remote control - Bluetooth/infrared
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I'm curious if this would work. It's a universal remote with bluetooth for a ps3
can't post a url, but the product is SMK-Link Blu-Link - Universal remote control - Bluetooth/infrared
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I have a Logitech Harmony One and have the IR to Bluetooth adapter Logitech made for communication with the PS3.
I don't have my OUYA yet, but when I do get one, it will be the first thing that I attempt to use. It only simulates PS3 controller inputs, and from what I understand, PS3 controllers work with the OUYA? Obviously would have no clue how to pair the adapter with the OUYA, but will be fun to tinker nevertheless.
Regardless, for XBMC purposes, imo nothing beats Yatse on my Nexus 4. Sure it would be nice to have all-in-one with the Harmony, but Yatse is just too nice, esp with the plugins (SMS popups on the TV and auto-pause/resume for phone calls). So not end of the world, but still would be nice to see if I could with the Harmony. At very least I'd expect someone to come out with drivers and a usb dongle.
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I'm curious if this would work. It's a universal remote with bluetooth for a ps3
can't post a url, but the product is SMK-Link Blu-Link - Universal remote control - Bluetooth/infrared
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Why did you pick this off-brand PS3 remote? The Sony branded PS3 remote has the same capabilities (bluetooth and IR), but is cheaper than SMK. The Sony branded remote is $18 right now on Amazon. The SMK one is like $30, Amazon and Target.
I don't have either device. But I have a generic IR remote with a USB receiver, and on my computer it acts as a keyboard input. I'm hoping it works on the Ouya. I think I can remap the keys using XBMC.
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Why did you pick this off-brand PS3 remote? The Sony branded PS3 remote has the same capabilities (bluetooth and IR), but is cheaper than SMK. The Sony branded remote is $18 right now on Amazon. The SMK one is like $30, Amazon and Target.
I don't have either device. But I have a generic IR remote with a USB receiver, and on my computer it acts as a keyboard input. I'm hoping it works on the Ouya. I think I can remap the keys using XBMC.
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I have something similar myself. USB IR receiver with a remote that has a "touch disc" on it.
The device actually shows up on Windows as a Universal HID device that works as both a mouse & keyboard.
The media keys and stuff are mapped really oddly, but if you're gonna use it to drive XBMC, you can keymap all that crap without issue.
Then you'll have to make sure you put the receiver where you can get Line Of Sight.
Honestly I am kinda on the fence about this crap at present. I HAVE my Ouya, and it plays games and junk well, but I have a couple issues that I am sort of waiting on:
-No DTS / DD audio passthrough via HDMI to a receiver
-No HDMI-CEC
-Ouya & other game controllers only work as a very limited/terrible keyboard device in current XBMC builds
-No surround sound output from Ouya system-wide (output currently "stuck" on stereo)
-Can't change Ouya output resolution (currently stuck @ 1080P) (My projector wants 720P or 1080i to do SBS 3D content)
Some / all of these are supposedly going to be fixed in software eventually and all are things that the Ouya hardware CAN do. So far my short term lazy solution has just been to use YATSE on my 7" tablet (my main mobile device), which works fine for XBMC needs. I haven't really bothered to fully set up my XBMC stuff (like my library and a nice skin and junk) because I "need" audio passthrough for it to feel like a fully baked solution I will use all the time for movies and junk.
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Why did you pick this off-brand PS3 remote? The Sony branded PS3 remote has the same capabilities (bluetooth and IR), but is cheaper than SMK. The Sony branded remote is $18 right now on Amazon. The SMK one is like $30, Amazon and Target.
I don't have either device. But I have a generic IR remote with a USB receiver, and on my computer it acts as a keyboard input. I'm hoping it works on the Ouya. I think I can remap the keys using XBMC.
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wasn't aware the official remote also worked as a universal remote.. (no ps3) I saw the blue-link mentioned on the xbmc site as well as the official ps3 remote
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Honestly I am kinda on the fence about this crap at present. I HAVE my Ouya, and it plays games and junk well, but I have a couple issues that I am sort of waiting on:
-No DTS / DD audio passthrough via HDMI to a receiver
-No HDMI-CEC
-Ouya & other game controllers only work as a very limited/terrible keyboard device in current XBMC builds
-No surround sound output from Ouya system-wide (output currently "stuck" on stereo)
-Can't change Ouya output resolution (currently stuck @ 1080P) (My projector wants 720P or 1080i to do SBS 3D content)
Some / all of these are supposedly going to be fixed in software eventually and all are things that the Ouya hardware CAN do. So far my short term lazy solution has just been to use YATSE on my 7" tablet (my main mobile device), which works fine for XBMC needs. I haven't really bothered to fully set up my XBMC stuff (like my library and a nice skin and junk) because I "need" audio passthrough for it to feel like a fully baked solution I will use all the time for movies and junk.
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How is HDMI-CEC important if the Ouya already acts as the HTPC? Maybe you had something in mind that was different than what I was thinking of? Isn't CEC just a way for the TV device to control the source via the HDMI connection? Can't you just control the Ouya directly for whatever you wanted the CEC control to be?
Personally, a simple remote (like the Sony PS3 remote) that has IR to turn the TV on/off, and bluetooth to control the Ouya (pause/play/select) is most of what I'm looking for. Using a tablet or smartphone seem to not be as convenient for me.
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wasn't aware the official remote also worked as a universal remote.. (no ps3) I saw the blue-link mentioned on the xbmc site as well as the official ps3 remote
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To me, the required features are to have IR (to control the TV) and bluetooth (to control the Ouya). That'll keep you from needing to hold two remotes.
If anyone has the PS3 remote and an Ouya, I'd be interested in a detail review of how they work together with XBMC. Particularly, how you navigate the menu structure with the arrow keys. It would be nice to not have to use a coffee table mouse for XBMC.
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How is HDMI-CEC important if the Ouya already acts as the HTPC? Maybe you had something in mind that was different than what I was thinking of? Isn't CEC just a way for the TV device to control the source via the HDMI connection? Can't you just control the Ouya directly for whatever you wanted the CEC control to be?
Personally, a simple remote (like the Sony PS3 remote) that has IR to turn the TV on/off, and bluetooth to control the Ouya (pause/play/select) is most of what I'm looking for. Using a tablet or smartphone seem to not be as convenient for me.
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To me, the required features are to have IR (to control the TV) and bluetooth (to control the Ouya). That'll keep you from needing to hold two remotes.
If anyone has the PS3 remote and an Ouya, I'd be interested in a detail review of how they work together with XBMC. Particularly, how you navigate the menu structure with the arrow keys. It would be nice to not have to use a coffee table mouse for XBMC.
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I do and as far as xbmc navigation goes all the major functions work except for the pause and play button and volume but thats not a big deal since its programed to my tv. Navigating through the ouya menu isnt as good since the enter button doesnt work. Also if you have xbmc set to launch at startup and use the ps3 remote that will cause xbmc to crash initially and using the power button to turn the tv off causes the ps3 remote to lose connection to the ouya so yuo'll have to resart the ouya for it to work again. One last thing is you'll need this app to pair it since ouya cant do it out of the box https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sImNvbS5qcG4uZnJvbnRpYS53YWthLkJsdWV0b290aCJd
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Also if you have xbmc set to launch at startup and use the ps3 remote that will cause xbmc to crash initially and using the power button to turn the tv off causes the ps3 remote to lose connection to the ouya so yuo'll have to resart the ouya for it to work again.
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Am I correct in thinking the PS3 remote connects to the Ouya via bluetooth? So on the PS3 remote, the power button doesn't just send the power IR signal to the TV, but also acts as a soft-off to turn off the PS3 remote? Is that why the remote is losing its connection to the Ouya
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Am I correct in thinking the PS3 remote connects to the Ouya via bluetooth? So on the PS3 remote, the power button doesn't just send the power IR signal to the TV, but also acts as a soft-off to turn off the PS3 remote? Is that why the remote is losing its connection to the Ouya
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yes its bluetooth, It seems that the power button also shuts off the remote. Its definitly not ready for day to day yet (I just went to use it and it caused xbmc to crash)
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yes its bluetooth, It seems that the power button also shuts off the remote. Its definitly not ready for day to day yet (I just went to use it and it caused xbmc to crash)
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Thanks for the heads up. That's the kind of operational thing that makes a huge difference in how a device can be used, but you'd never know it from reading the spec sheet.
My plan for the Ouya was to use the PS3 remote, but the disconnect issue might be a big deal. I have a bluetooth mouse (microsoft brand) that I know goes to sleep when not in use, but it wakes up fast and connects fast. The sleep function is really not an issue for that bluetooth mouse.
I plan on primarily using it for XBMC. The support looks good, along with the price and specs. What do you guys think?
I think it depends on how you plan to access your media. If you plan to use a NAS, you might be alright; if you were planning to use an external drive from the USB port, you need to wait for the OUYA team to fix the problem with detection of the hard drive. Also, you may find yourself needing to use the gamepad to control the interface--if that's a deal breaker you need to plan accordingly.
Also, bear in mind that the XBMC for Android is still in early alpha!
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As someone who had never used XBMC or Plex (or anything else like that for that matter) prior to this past month, I am so excited about how well XBMC works with the OUYA!
You sound like someone who has used it before. If you're familiar with the basics then getting the OUYA to run XBMC in (almost) flawless 1080p is...well...easy! With the release of an official version of XBMCHUB last week, I don't think I'll ever hook my laptop up to my TV again.
Going into the OUYA, I had no idea of it's potential as a do-all media center. I was hoping it'd have Netflix and flash content, but that's about as far as I had hoped, so I'm very excited about all of this.
At only $99, I've been hearing people say there is no better box for XBMC, but maybe other, more experienced people could chime in.
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I think it depends on how you plan to access your media. If you plan to use a NAS, you might be alright; if you were planning to use an external drive from the USB port, you need to wait for the OUYA team to fix the problem with detection of the hard drive. Also, you may find yourself needing to use the gamepad to control the interface--if that's a deal breaker you need to plan accordingly.
Also, bear in mind that the XBMC for Android is still in early alpha!
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I'm not sure what USB port problem you mean? I am using a 1TB WD USB HDD and have no problems with read.
I personally bought the ouya strictly for XBMC. I've used xbmc streaming from smb shares since original Xbox and it was called Xbox media center. I still use original Xbox with xbmc and the ouya is its replacement. Xbmc works amazingly better on it even in its alpha state. Those guys are pros and I have every faith they will deliver on the android platform. The only caveats so far is that I'd like a remote control instead of controller and it doesn't exist yet. Perhaps in the future it will. I've set my ouya to boot directly into xbmc but like above poster said the USB support needs work and the issue with the ouya turning itself on when its asleep and not shut down. That's annoying. Also don't plan to use WiFi. Ouyas metal casing hinders WiFi too much for streaming video in decent quality.
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I'm not sure what USB port problem you mean? I am using a 1TB WD USB HDD and have no problems with read.
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I have a 2TB WD drive and a 3TB Toshiba drive, both using external power. With either of them if I plug in the drive light comes on and blinks but the OUYA doesn't mount it no matter how long I wait. One is formatted as FAT32, the other as NTFS. It makes no difference.
The workaround I've found (don't remember where I saw this originally) is to plug in the drive while the OUYA is powered off and unplugged, then do a system reset. After this, the external drive is recognized and mounted as /usbdrive and the light on the drive only flashes when being read from or written to. I can install XBMC, scan my movies and shows into the library, use the external drive for my emulator roms, etc, etc. It works.
The problem is if I remove the drive for any reason or if I get an update the drive is no longer recognized and I need to do another system reset again, add back all my games, reinstall XBMC and rescan my library (import doesn't seem to work for me) and hope that I don't have to deal with another system update any time soon....
That's why I'm not currently recommending the OUYA if people plan to use an external hard drive to access their media. I'm not the only one with these issues, if you Google for OUYA and external drive you'll see many others are having the same issues.
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Ouya is stuck on 60hz framerate. So 24hz or 50hz files will have some stutter. Maybe stutter is not the right description, it's not perfectly smooth due to framerate adapting to 60hz. I have XBMC with hardware acceleration installed, it really is framerate conversion (or whatever you call it) that causes this.
I like XBMC on Ouya but prefer a media player that adapts its framerate output to the media file, like my Boxee Box does. You'll have a perfectly smooth picture. It really is a lot better to look at.
Using the XAF edition while I wait for Gotham to become stable for android. Works amazingly well.
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Does Dolby digital and dts work with this?
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Ouya is stuck on 60hz framerate. So 24hz or 50hz files will have some stutter. Maybe stutter is not the right description, it's not perfectly smooth due to framerate adapting to 60hz. I have XBMC with hardware acceleration installed, it really is framerate conversion (or whatever you call it) that causes this.
I like XBMC on Ouya but prefer a media player that adapts its framerate output to the media file, like my Boxee Box does. You'll have a perfectly smooth picture. It really is a lot better to look at.
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Yeah, I read about that. Is that a limitation that can be fixed with development, or is it impossible?
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I think it depends on how you plan to access your media. If you plan to use a NAS, you might be alright; if you were planning to use an external drive from the USB port, you need to wait for the OUYA team to fix the problem with detection of the hard drive. Also, you may find yourself needing to use the gamepad to control the interface--if that's a deal breaker you need to plan accordingly.
Also, bear in mind that the XBMC for Android is still in early alpha!
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I have a 1TB Seagate with which I used to have the problem with it not being recognized by my Ouya. Since then I have tried different OTG mounting apps. The best I've found is an app called Paragon which mounts USB drives to '/mnt/usbdrive' by default and has full NTFS read/write capabilities. Also it's automated so it mounts the USB drive at startup without any prompting. The only thing is it requires full root and superuser access. Not a big deal, but a formality nonetheless. Mainly I'm just saying that's there's simple enough workarounds for the Ouya's external hard drive issues.
Also the XBMC Android build found here (http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=152005) works great on my Ouya. Navigating using the gamepad may be a little clunky but the capabilities of using the Ouya for full media playback is already there. Hell, I'm working on turning an Ouya into a full-fledged internet/digital PVR box.
just got my Ouya yesterday and I had xbmc with the 0.6 release installed and the xbmchub fusion wizard thing installed. The issues I have encountered are typing on that xbmc keyboard with only the touchpad is a very arduous experience. Navi-x is installed alongside all the 1 channel stuff but this has a script error but does not stop it from working.
It does crash in navi-x but the speed at which this thing boots up and restarts is rapid so it does not cause that much of a headache, but dont forget that this info comes from less than 24 hours usage.
Overal i am happy with this device and the xbmc install but i would like a easier way of starting the software similar to netflix on the apple tv as the kids can play what they like and not get on my back.
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...The only caveats so far is that I'd like a remote control instead of controller and it doesn't exist yet...
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There are two remotes for XBMC the official remote doesn't seem to work for me. But Yatse works well but drains my phones battery really fast. And as a response to a USB drive not working, I have a 2TB WD Passport for my Ouya that works like a charm.
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There are two remotes for XBMC the official remote doesn't seem to work for me. But Yatse works well but drains my phones battery really fast. And as a response to a USB drive not working, I have a 2TB WD Passport for my Ouya that works like a charm.
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I'm talking an IR remote that can turn the console on/off as well... I have the android app remote working just fine. the official one even.
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I have a 1TB Seagate with which I used to have the problem with it not being recognized by my Ouya. Since then I have tried different OTG mounting apps. The best I've found is an app called Paragon which mounts USB drives to '/mnt/usbdrive' by default and has full NTFS read/write capabilities. Also it's automated so it mounts the USB drive at startup without any prompting. The only thing is it requires full root and superuser access. Not a big deal, but a formality nonetheless. Mainly I'm just saying that's there's simple enough workarounds for the Ouya's external hard drive issues.
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Perhaps, but so far the OUYA has been the only Android device I've not felt a need to root and I'd like to keep it that way. Maybe it's just an artificial distinction, but to my mind if I have to root to get basic functionality then the OUYA ceases to be a console (plug and play) and becomes a small computer. If I'm to treat the OUYA as a small computer then I may as well simply run Cyanogen Mod and not waste any money with the OUYA games, because I'll be too busy mapping the game pad to play the many titles available in the Play Store. It becomes a silly, pointless waste of time and money, because I have several desktops which I can use on my television and had in the past been running XBMC just fine on those desktops with my 5.1 surround sound card and speakers.
I bought the OUYA because it promised me XBMC + Games + Android in a simple to use console. Most of those interested in the OUYA as and XBMC box are also people who've already run XBMC on their televisions via an old desktop or htpc, and want a console which will make doing this easier and standardized to just work. We already hacked together something on the desktop; we're looking for the easy button.
Otherwise, we'd have just bought a Midnight box or a Pivos....
I'd say yes.
I've got XBMC running on a load of devices, Raspberry Pi, Pivos Xios DS, Odroid U2, Nexus 7, HTC One X, Intel i5 w/ATI 7770... The RPi and Pivos are sluggish, the Odroid very buggy, the Nexus, One X and Ouya (all tegra 3) are very usable and provide nearly as smooth an experience as the powerful PC.
There are a few bugs still being ironed out but none are show stoppers. The current libstagefright build works nicely enough and will only get better. We should have an interim 12.2 build hit the Ouya store soon which will be mostly bug free and feature complete.
For remote the controller is ok and will be better when they finish key mapping it. You can also connect the ps3 bluetooth media remote which makes for a better experience. Other options are IR remotes that present as keyboards or the FLIRC device.
The main thing to bare in mind is that the Ouya is a pretty new device with lots of development being done every day, something like 10 OS updates in the past 4 months - give the devs time and we'll have a very nice little Tegra 3 box; I'm looking forward to seeing where we'll be in 6 months time. Not to mention the work being done on XBMCs side. A lot of core devs are working on supporting the Ouya as they all have the device.
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I have a 1TB Seagate with which I used to have the problem with it not being recognized by my Ouya. Since then I have tried different OTG mounting apps. The best I've found is an app called Paragon which mounts USB drives to '/mnt/usbdrive' by default and has full NTFS read/write capabilities. Also it's automated so it mounts the USB drive at startup without any prompting. The only thing is it requires full root and superuser access. Not a big deal, but a formality nonetheless. Mainly I'm just saying that's there's simple enough workarounds for the Ouya's external hard drive issues.
Also the XBMC Android build found here (http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=152005) works great on my Ouya. Navigating using the gamepad may be a little clunky but the capabilities of using the Ouya for full media playback is already there. Hell, I'm working on turning an Ouya into a full-fledged internet/digital PVR box.
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I am also trying to replace cable TV with my Ouya and use it as a DVR. I would love some help, tips on getting it done.
* I have XBMC installed, but it doesnt see my network drives (shared drives on a Win7 PC), although all my other PCs can see them and use them?
* I planned on downloading the TV shows from 'sources' on the web, but wasn't sure how to setup auto gather new shows?
* I heard about Sick Beard and Coach Potato, but I never used them, I would love a guide or steps to help me set it up
* I wanted to get Amazon Video working too, since I pay for Prime, no official app, and I couldn't get a good Android one yet?
* Wouldn't mind having Hulu and Netflix too, I heard the google tv apks are best - any comments on that?
Anything you could help me with, would be very appreciated. I hate overpaying for Cable, and the service/quality sux
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I bought the OUYA because it promised me XBMC + Games + Android in a simple to use console. Most of those interested in the OUYA as and XBMC box are also people who've already run XBMC on their televisions via an old desktop or htpc, and want a console which will make doing this easier and standardized to just work. We already hacked together something on the desktop; we're looking for the easy button.
Otherwise, we'd have just bought a Midnight box or a Pivos....
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You can't blame the lack of XBMC support on Ouya, it was up to the XBMC team to follow through on that. Ouya only announced it was going to come to the Ouya because that's what XBMC said on their own website. They're finally working on an Ouya fork for the next XBMC release, probably integrating libstagefright into it (because those work best on the Ouya).
And you could've gone for one of those other boxes. They're around the same price as an Ouya. I was a KS backer but I supported it hoping, yet not expecting, some ROM dev support for the console. I know there's CM10 but I'm going to wait for better unlocking of the system before I go full custom ROM. Unless the custom ROMs have better overscan compensation support already (a huge issue with Ouya on my TV).
Zehrfox said:
I am also trying to replace cable TV with my Ouya and use it as a DVR. I would love some help, tips on getting it done.
* I have XBMC installed, but it doesnt see my network drives (shared drives on a Win7 PC), although all my other PCs can see them and use them?
* I planned on downloading the TV shows from 'sources' on the web, but wasn't sure how to setup auto gather new shows?
* I heard about Sick Beard and Coach Potato, but I never used them, I would love a guide or steps to help me set it up
* I wanted to get Amazon Video working too, since I pay for Prime, no official app, and I couldn't get a good Android one yet?
* Wouldn't mind having Hulu and Netflix too, I heard the google tv apks are best - any comments on that?
Anything you could help me with, would be very appreciated. I hate overpaying for Cable, and the service/quality sux
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1) I don't use network shares on my XBMC Ouya setup right now. All video files are stored locally to the external hard drive I have connected to my Ouya.
2 & 3) I actually couldn't get the Sick Beard Android app to load on the Ouya. I ended up buying an app called PowerNZB which came with its own Sick Beard server. It's just not as automated right now as it would be on PC when used in conjunction with SabNZBd and I hope to see that change soon. I don't know if I can talk about what 'web sources' I use openly either, but you can figure it out. Also I'll just bluntly tell you to Google Sick Beard tutorials to get a better idea of how to use it.
4 & 5) No clue. I don't have any of these on my Ouya at all. Sorry if I'm not as much help as you'd like.
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You can't blame the lack of XBMC support on Ouya
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I don't.
As far as I'm concerned, XBMC has already produced a build for the OUYA which works quite well and which I expect to continue to get better and better. Instead I blame OUYA for being unable to (or unwilling?) to fix USB drive detection.
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I appreciate the help
* at NssOne - Thanks, I do appreciate the help I wanted to use the network shares, that way I could have my win7 pc obtain all the shows and movies for me, using PC software, then place it on a shared network drive, where the Ouya could access them and play them. I figured that would be easier that having the Ouya run all that software and handle all those processes.
Which version of XBMC works best on Ouya, I saw several people post different versions, I know you need HW accel, but an exact file name or link would be appreciated.
Is Sick Beard better than Coach Potato? - I have never used either one? will they look for new shows and grab them for me?
Any one else trying to replace Cable TV with Ouya and XBMC? - Any advise, tips, software suggestions?
For XBMC Google the libstagefright version. And I don't know the difference between Sick Beard and Couch Potato. I've stuck with Sick Beard the whole time.
I know the nexus player has usb, so the controller can be plugged in, however im not sure if it will work wirelessly or even at all for that matter. I am planning on buying a nexus player, and want to see if i can skip out on buying a controller for it.
Thanks
NickM_27 said:
I know the nexus player has usb, so the controller can be plugged in, however im not sure if it will work wirelessly or even at all for that matter. I am planning on buying a nexus player, and want to see if i can skip out on buying a controller for it.
Thanks
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The PS3 controller can be used on most any other rooted android device if you use the Sixaxis Controller app from the Play store. This does require root, however, so we'll have to wait for root before verifying that the PS3 controller will indeed work on the NP. I am near certain it will since it works great on the Nexus 7 and 10.
Once we have root, we can verify support with this checker app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dancingpixelstudios.sixaxiscompatibilitychecker
If it says yes, you'd purchase and install this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dancingpixelstudios.sixaxiscontroller&hl=en
I doubt there'd be a leanback interface for the app before root comes, but it'd most likely work as is.
The Sixaxis Controller app for Android doesn't seem to work with Android 5.0 anymore.
I tried it with my Nexus 7 (2012) running rooted stock 5.0, using SuperSU 2.23, and it errors out.
Looks like it's gonna have to be updated for Lollipop, so it might be a no-go for the Nexus Player for a while.
The sixaxis controller app just got updated to support lollipop, so I'm gonna try it tonight and I'll report back.
brandon_edge1994 said:
The sixaxis controller app just got updated to support lollipop, so I'm gonna try it tonight and I'll report back.
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It works!!! Was getting some settings crashes and the app took a bit to pair but seems to be working ok now.
ggrammer said:
It works!!! Was getting some settings crashes and the app took a bit to pair but seems to be working ok now.
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I wasn't able to get my Nexus Player to pair my controller, but I ended up just using my Nexus 7 to pair it. It's a pain to get it to work, but it seems to be working great on mine too.
brandon_edge1994 said:
I wasn't able to get my Nexus Player to pair my controller, but I ended up just using my Nexus 7 to pair it. It's a pain to get it to work, but it seems to be working great on mine too.
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After pairing, what can you use your Nexus 7 as?
Oh. I just used my Nexus 7 to pair the controller with the Nexus Player. I didn't pair the Nexus 7 with the Nexus Player. I actually tried to do that, but I couldn't get the Nexus player to recognize the Nexus 7.
Grabbed a dualshock 4 ps4 controller today during BF sale. Paired with Nexus Player like a champ, haven't had time to check the touchpad functionality though but I am enjoying this controller for my gaming. I am going to try to pair both the DS3 and DS4 and see how they work together
ggrammer said:
Grabbed a dualshock 4 ps4 controller today during BF sale. Paired with Nexus Player like a champ, haven't had time to check the touchpad functionality though but I am enjoying this controller for my gaming. I am going to try to pair both the DS3 and DS4 and see how they work together
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To clarify, does the DS4 pair with the NP out of the box, or does it require root and an app? As dumb as this question sounds, my understanding is that the DS4 pairs with Bluetooth enabled PCs much more easily than the DS3 did, so I'm wondering if Android treats it any differently.
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To clarify, does the DS4 pair with the NP out of the box, or does it require root and an app? As dumb as this question sounds, my understanding is that the DS4 pairs with Bluetooth enabled PCs much more easily than the DS3 did, so I'm wondering if Android treats it any differently.
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Truth be told I didn't even try it straight to the NP I used sixaxis right away. It works great. The new sixaxis app sometimes finds my DS3 as a fake controller other times it works fine but the DS4 always pops in fine. the touchpad is tweaky at best so i tend not to use it but this will be extremely handy once it is fixed properly.
Just tried it straight Bluetooth. The NP sees it as a Bluetooth controller but fails at pairing it. Tried multiple times but the NP just hangs. I really wish the Bluetooth stack in Android would finally support these devices (DS4, wiimotes, etc) properly...
ggrammer said:
Just tried it straight Bluetooth. The NP sees it as a Bluetooth controller but fails at pairing it. Tried multiple times but the NP just hangs. I really wish the Bluetooth stack in Android would finally support these devices (DS4, wiimotes, etc) properly...
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I'm not sure that's a failing of Android. It's Nintendo/Sony using proprietary software with their hardware. Windows won't recognize them 100% without 3rd party software as well, as far as I remember.
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I'm not sure that's a failing of Android. It's Nintendo/Sony using proprietary software with their hardware. Windows won't recognize them 100% without 3rd party software as well, as far as I remember.
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The android bluetooth stack has gone through a few changes over the last couple of version which have wreaked havoc on third party accessories.
ggrammer said:
The android bluetooth stack has gone through a few changes over the last couple of version which have wreaked havoc on third party accessories.
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While this is correct, it doesn't change the fact that Nintendo and Sony use proprietary software with their hardware, thus negating whatever bluetooth stack is being used.
That said, prior to Android 4.3, the Bluetooth stack used on your Android device was up to the OEM, and it differed from device to device. With Android 4.3, Google told OEMs which BT stack to use. This is to help with compatibility and consistency.
I read in another thread that you cannot have both sixaxis (for PS3 / PS4 controller etc) and the remote working at the same time. Wonder if anything can be done about that?
jaykresge said:
While this is correct, it doesn't change the fact that Nintendo and Sony use proprietary software with their hardware, thus negating whatever bluetooth stack is being used.
That said, prior to Android 4.3, the Bluetooth stack used on your Android device was up to the OEM, and it differed from device to device. With Android 4.3, Google told OEMs which BT stack to use. This is to help with compatibility and consistency.
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The wii remote doesn't use "proprietary software" that negates the bluetooth stack. it connects to pc bluetooth stacks fine. in fact android can detect the wii remote it just won't pair with it. cyanogen had actually included support for wii remotes in CM11 as long as your kernel supports wiimotes (most kernels just a downported driver).
This article http://lwn.net/Articles/597293/
has some interesting info on the bluetooth stack change.
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I'm not sure that's a failing of Android. It's Nintendo/Sony using proprietary software with their hardware. Windows won't recognize them 100% without 3rd party software as well, as far as I remember.
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I am able to pair my DS4 with with my Droid Turbo running 4.4.4 w/ no 3rd party software. Although it could be possible that Motorola modified the BT stack to allow this? It also paired w/ my old OPO and N5 both running CM11s. It would not pair w/ the N5 running vanilla KK. It doesn't seem like it's too hard to include whatever it is to make the DS4 compatible with android but for some reason Google doesn't include it out of the box. My DS4 also pairs w/ my MS Surface 2 Pro on Windows 8.1 with no special drivers or software.
brandon_edge1994 said:
Oh. I just used my Nexus 7 to pair the controller with the Nexus Player. I didn't pair the Nexus 7 with the Nexus Player. I actually tried to do that, but I couldn't get the Nexus player to recognize the Nexus 7.
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How did you get the Nexus 7 to pair your PS3 controller with the Nexus Player? Could you let us know how you pulled it off?
I've side-loaded the Sixaxis controller app onto my nexus player and can't get it to connect. It did once, but crashed instantly and deleted my NP remote from the 'remote & accessories' menu lol. Causing me to resort to a factory reset to get it back.
I can pair the controller with the N7, no problem, NP just doesn't want to work. Any guidance would be appreciated
I think you may have been able to use a phone/tablet with the android tv remote app to re-add the stock remote. Not sure but worth a try over a FR.
JDthree said:
How did you get the Nexus 7 to pair your PS3 controller with the Nexus Player? Could you let us know how you pulled it off?
Ive side-loaded the Sixaxis controller app onto my nexus player and cant get it to connect. It did once, but crashed instantly and deleted my NP remote from the remote & accessories menu lol. Causing me to resort to a factory reset to get it back.
I can pair the controller with the N7, no problem, NP just doesnt want to work. Any guidance would be appreciated
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Open the Sixaxis app on the nexus player and start it, and it'll show the Mac address of the nexus player. If you open it on your nexus 7 and connect the controller with a USB OTG cable, and click pair inside the sixaxis app, it'll prompt you to enter the Mac address, and it'll have the nexus 7's Mac address by default. Change it to the Mac address displayed on the nexus player. Once that's done, disconnect it and click the PS button. It should connect to the nexus player instead. I got it to work well, but I had the same issue and my nexus player remote stopped working, so I haven't looked into it any further.
Hi Folks!
I am looking into getting an affordable android box that will be able to use the dolphin emulator, so 2015 shield came to mind.
I control my android box with keyboard and mouse exclusively and would like to turn off Bluetooth and Wi-Fi completely for low EMF output.
Is this known to be possible on the shield? I'm aware the remote uses one or the other of these.
If so- how can it be done? If not- is there another similarly powerful box that can do it?
Thank you so much already!
There's this thing called the Raspberry Pi...
ldeveraux said:
There's this thing called the Raspberry Pi...
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yeah, thought about it. sadly not really strong enough for emulation of newer consoles. Theres LineageOS, too- maybe using that on the shield, BT and WiFi can be disabled- Someone with a shield could test that.