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Cannot change anything on my External Hard Drive

I have my USB 3.0 External Hard Drive plug it in the USB 3.0 port, and i cannot change anything on it with a File Manger, for some reason it is Read only,
can you please help me with that Mad Catz.
Tried it with Total Commander 2 and get Re-mount Error, and tried it with ES File Explorer 3 and get Sorry, operation failed.
I download allot and i need the Apps to download it strait to my External Hard Drive, whats te point of using a External Hard Drive if i cannot
change anything on it.
And why can i not plug the USB 3.0 External Hard Drive plug it in the USB 3.0 port, and plug a USB 2.0 stick in the USB 2.0 port at the same time?
This problem is not with my cheap MeLE M9 Android TV BOX.
And yes i have installed the latest Firmware 0202 and also have rooted it.

AmigaWolf said:
I have my USB 3.0 External Hard Drive plug it in the USB 3.0 port, and i cannot change anything on it with a File Manger, for some reason it is Read only,
can you please help me with that Mad Catz.
Tried it with Total Commander 2 and get Re-mount Error, and tried it with ES File Explorer 3 and get Sorry, operation failed.
I download allot and i need the Apps to download it strait to my External Hard Drive, whats te point of using a External Hard Drive if i cannot
change anything on it.
And why can i not plug the USB 3.0 External Hard Drive plug it in the USB 3.0 port, and plug a USB 2.0 stick in the USB 2.0 port at the same time?
This problem is not with my cheap MeLE M9 Android TV BOX.
And yes i have installed the latest Firmware 0202 and also have rooted it.
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If your drive is NTFS then it's read only on the MOJO.
You might want to look for apps which can write to NTFS, because the kernel isn't configured for NTFS write.
I've compile the kernel with read/write access but not too keen to try and 'install' it.. I don't want to brick it.. so i'm still doing research on this.

AmigaWolf said:
I have my USB 3.0 External Hard Drive plug it in the USB 3.0 port, and i cannot change anything on it with a File Manger, for some reason it is Read only,
can you please help me with that Mad Catz.
Tried it with Total Commander 2 and get Re-mount Error, and tried it with ES File Explorer 3 and get Sorry, operation failed.
I download allot and i need the Apps to download it strait to my External Hard Drive, whats te point of using a External Hard Drive if i cannot
change anything on it.
And why can i not plug the USB 3.0 External Hard Drive plug it in the USB 3.0 port, and plug a USB 2.0 stick in the USB 2.0 port at the same time?
This problem is not with my cheap MeLE M9 Android TV BOX.
And yes i have installed the latest Firmware 0202 and also have rooted it.
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try formating the drive into exFAT. I know its a pain but try it on a spare drive and tell us if it works. you can also try [root] Ntfs Mounter app from the play store.

mejdam said:
try formating the drive into exFAT.
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I don't think exFat is supported, just fat32, at least SDcards don't. TMK
I wouldn't be formatting a HD and transferring data
I'm hoping to have NTFS write support soon, just got to figure out how to put it on the mojo

gwaldo said:
I don't think exFat is supported, just fat32, at least SDcards don't. TMK
I wouldn't be formatting a HD and transferring data
I'm hoping to have NTFS write support soon, just got to figure out how to put it on the mojo
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Why must we do this??
They had to make it so that we have Read and Write support on the M.O.J.A.
All the reviews i have read and seen say almost the same thing, Mad Catz just put a half baked product on the market, that cost 2 times what other
Android TV BOXES cost, it a pity, because it have good spects.
My Mad Catz M.O.J.O. is overheating every time and then he just stop working he freezes.
So i gone sent him back to the store and i think i gone ask my money back, to many problems with this product.

AmigaWolf said:
Why must we do this??
They had to make it so that we have Read and Write support on the M.O.J.A.
All the reviews i have read and seen say almost the same thing, Mad Catz just put a half baked product on the market, that cost 2 times what other
Android TV BOXES cost, it a pity, because it have good spects.
My Mad Catz M.O.J.O. is overheating every time and then he just stop working he freezes.
So i gone sent him back to the store and i think i gone ask my money back, to many problems with this product.
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Try the app mejdam suggest for NTFS write support.
Not all devices have everything turned on.
Why.. I'm guessing license cost.. and there's no way to recoup their costs (ie via ecosystem, it's a barebone kernel but functional).
Still the kernel is out now so it's a matter of time.
I thought you already return on before?
Maybe third time lucky? :laugh:

gwaldo said:
Try the app mejdam suggest for NTFS write support.
Not all devices have everything turned on.
Why.. I'm guessing license cost.. and there's no way to recoup their costs (ie via ecosystem, it's a barebone kernel but functional).
Still the kernel is out now so it's a matter of time.
I thought you already return on before?
Maybe third time lucky? :laugh:
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HAha yes, but i was thinking of asking my money back, but there (M.O.J.O.) Android TV BOX cost 2 times more then all the other Android
TV BOXES, so for 100 Dollars more then it cost then the other Android TV BOXES you can't pay for a licenses, so that everything works perfect, is it
to much to ask for that then?
But if [root] Ntfs Mounter works i gone stay with this box, because i now have (had) MX Player working with Dolby Digital and DTS
And why don't i hear nothing from Mad Catz?
And thanks mejdam for [root] Ntfs Mounter.

AmigaWolf said:
HAha yes, but i was thinking of asking my money back, but there (M.O.J.O.) Android TV BOX cost 2 times more then all the other Android
TV BOXES, so for 100 Dollars more then it cost then the other Android TV BOXES you can't pay for a licenses, so that everything works perfect, is it
to much to ask for that then?
But if [root] Ntfs Mounter works i gone stay with this box, because i now have (had) MX Player working with Dolby Digital and DTS
And why don't i hear nothing from Mad Catz?
And thanks mejdam for [root] Ntfs Mounter.
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As a publicly listed company with major presence worldwide we have to adhere to licensing restrictions, costs etc. Some of those licensing costs are, frankly, too high to swallow on top of all the other licenses that are required, because they would mean we would have to push them on to you guys.
We can't comment too much on the Android boxes that you often compare us to, other than to say that we know that they're not officially Google licensed boxes. They still ship with Google Play access though which means that they're flying under the radar.
The cost difference is no longer $100 anyway - more like $50-$70 depending on where you buy and the difference is pretty clear once you start getting into 3D gaming and emulation (plus you're getting a top quality game controller included too!).

Mad Catz Rich said:
As a publicly listed company with major presence worldwide we have to adhere to licensing restrictions, costs etc. Some of those licensing costs are, frankly, too high to swallow on top of all the other licenses that are required, because they would mean we would have to push them on to you guys.
We can't comment too much on the Android boxes that you often compare us to, other than to say that we know that they're not officially Google licensed boxes. They still ship with Google Play access though which means that they're flying under the radar.
The cost difference is no longer $100 anyway - more like $50-$70 depending on where you buy and the difference is pretty clear once you start getting into 3D gaming and emulation (plus you're getting a top quality game controller included too!).
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Yes but now we have a machine that have no own Player (and no Dolby Digital and DTS) we do not have our own Key mapper for the GamePad, something
the NVIDIA Shield has, we do not have write support for NTFS external Hard Drives, we do not have support to use a external Hard Drive and a USB Stick
at the same time, and the list goes on and on, this box his android is to clean, we need all that to have a great Android TV BOX, now the box is not
complete like allot of review sites saying.
And all the others have all that, and all the others have a remote control or a air mouse with there Android TV BOX, so thats not a good reason that your
must cost allot more just because you have a GamePad with it, your Android TV BOX must even be cheaper because you have not paid for all does
licensing.
And the OUYA Consoles also sell there Android TV BOXES with a GamePad, but still it only cost $99.99 on Amazon, when Amazon is not the cheapest.
And the MeLE M9 cost on Amazon $113.78
And the most popular Android TV BOX out there the MiniX Neo X7 Mini cost $104.79 on Amazon.
And sorry to say but all the Emulators i tried SNES, N64, SEGA, AMIGA, Playstation 1, Neogeo arcade on Google Play work very good on does Android
TV BOXES, without any frame drops, they run 100%.
And all the 3D i played, like DEAD TRIGGER 1 and 2, SHADOWGUN, N.O.V.A. 3 - Near Orbit, play very good.

AmigaWolf said:
Yes but now we have a machine that have no own Player (and no Dolby Digital and DTS) we do not have our own Key mapper for the GamePad, something the NVIDIA Shield has, we do not have write support for NTFS external Hard Drives, we do not have support to use a external Hard Drive and a USB Stick at the same time, and the list goes on and on, this box his android is to clean, we need all that to have a great Android TV BOX, now the box is not complete like allot of review sites saying.
And all the others have all that, and all the others have a remote control or a air mouse with there Android TV BOX, so that not a good reason that your must cost allot more just because you have a GamePad with it.
And the OUYA Consoles also sell there Android TV BOXES with a GamePad, but still it only cost $99.99 on Amazon, when Amazon is not the cheapest.
And the MeLE M9 cost on Amazon $113.78
And the most popular Android TV BOX out there the MiniX Neo X7 Mini cost $104.79 on Amazon.
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You're still not comparing apples with apples - Tegra 4 is several classes beyond what's present in those boxes.
Regarding what apps you feel should be included with the box, this is Android and everyone has their own favourite app to use for each task. We leave it entirely up to you to put on the box what you feel you need. It's also why we've been quite candid about recommending that you root M.O.J.O..
For a keymapper, for the time being we can recommend Tincore Keymapper.
Dolby Digital and DTS support: as you've found this is an app issue. All the apps need to do is allow pass through of DTS or Dolby and it will work - we know there's an issue with XBMC on Android as we've been talking to people there about it. It's possible we'll see a fix but there's no news yet on that front.

Mad Catz Rich said:
You're still not comparing apples with apples - Tegra 4 is several classes beyond what's present in those boxes.
Regarding what apps you feel should be included with the box, this is Android and everyone has their own favourite app to use for each task. We leave it entirely up to you to put on the box what you feel you need. It's also why we've been quite candid about recommending that you root M.O.J.O..
For a keymapper, for the time being we can recommend Tincore Keymapper.
Dolby Digital and DTS support: as you've found this is an app issue. All the apps need to do is allow pass through of DTS or Dolby and it will work - we know there's an issue with XBMC on Android as we've been talking to people there about it. It's possible we'll see a fix but there's no news yet on that front.
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No do NOT need pass through for does audio, they need the codec, and you have to pay for it, or download it illegally (like for MX Player), and the GPU
Tegra 4 is fast, but i have not found any 3D shooters out there that needs a 72 Core GPU, all those games play good on a PowerVR SGX544MP2.
But yes the interface is very fast, also booting up is fast, only we miss a off button, and write support for NTFS formatted External Hard Drives, because
now we have no use for a fast USB port (USB 3.0).

Running PC Game Streaming silently?

Hello all,
The main reason I bought an Nvidia Shield Android TV was to replace my PS3 as a media server and most importantly to free up my desktop so my wife could use it for her work.
However, I've since discovered that the shield game streaming facility uses up the monitors, keyboard and mouse, rendering the desktop PC a complete slave to the shield console, it doesn't stream the game silently in the background like say a media server would like plex or whatever.
I've tried installing the drivers for the onboard graphics card, sticking a HDMI cable in the back of one of the monitors and using the onboard HDMI, using that monitor's interface as the primary one so my wife could use it, but when I try and stream a game on the shield it just tells me that the GeForce GPU needs to be the primary source.
A bit annoying, I might need to fork out some money on a new machine just so she can use the desk, we don't have much room in the house.
I can't really think of any other way to get around this. Anyone else had any luck??
any help would be greatly appreciated!!
many thanks
Antóin

As far as I have seen there is no software to do what your wanting.

darhoade said:
As far as I have seen there is no software to do what your wanting.
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That is truly a bummer...

antoin_currie said:
Hello all,
The main reason I bought an Nvidia Shield Android TV was to replace my PS3 as a media server and most importantly to free up my desktop so my wife could use it for her work.
However, I've since discovered that the shield game streaming facility uses up the monitors, keyboard and mouse, rendering the desktop PC a complete slave to the shield console, it doesn't stream the game silently in the background like say a media server would like plex or whatever.
I've tried installing the drivers for the onboard graphics card, sticking a HDMI cable in the back of one of the monitors and using the onboard HDMI, using that monitor's interface as the primary one so my wife could use it, but when I try and stream a game on the shield it just tells me that the GeForce GPU needs to be the primary source.
A bit annoying, I might need to fork out some money on a new machine just so she can use the desk, we don't have much room in the house.
I can't really think of any other way to get around this. Anyone else had any luck??
any help would be greatly appreciated!!
many thanks
Antóin
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I guess you misunderstood what they meant by streaming the game form your pc. All your Shield TV is doing is being a controller basically. Your PC is actually sending a h.264 video of what is on your PC to your Shield TV.

lol

I agree, I wish it did it in the background as well. Hopefully that is the option in the future as streaming matures. I'd take a slightly lower quality (720p 60fps) if it meant my wife could use the PC while I stream a game.

try this with most of your games on your current machine as is. while yes there might be a few you can multitask with, alot of apps and programs require "focus". focus is what happens when your background windows jump to the foreground. you cant click on and interact with background windows without putting them into focus. yes you can leave them running but games require this same interaction. its just the way most operating systems and programs work.
again, yes i realize that some games do allow this, but not all, as it comes down to how the game is programmed, therefore its not nvidia's fault. Some games dont even allow you to play with the gamepad if the game is not in focus. Hope this helps better understand the situation.

Hello, do you can turn monitor off?

Nvidia shield as a fileserver/torrentbox/Kodi-box?

Hello there peeps!
Im thinking of getting rid of my old laptop as my torrentbox/Kodi and fileserver. Its noisy, draws lots of power and it can barely handle 1080p HEVC movies. So Im really longing to buy a Nvidia Shield TV 16GB
Im thinking of buying the 16GB version, putting a 128GB micro-sd card in it and use a powered usb3.0 HUB to connect my current 3 external HDDs to it.
My plans is to let the 128GB micro-sd card act as the torrent partition and storage for the games and apps. When the apps are finished Im moving the stuff to the three external NTFS HDDs and store it on them. All this would be nice to be able to manage with my Android phone. Im thinking that it might be hard on the unit to handle torrents at the same time we watch movies or play games. Is there an app to paus the torrents if the rest needs more resources, or make some kind of script?
Will all this work? Ive read that the Shield TV cant handle more than two external USBs thanks to the limitatons of Android but this can be fixed by rooting it. Is it correct?

You need to get a SMB server app working on it. Google: Funkyfresh Samba
uTorrent has an Android version.
I think Android can handle more than two ext HDD's. My sister has 4-5 HDD's connected to her AFTV, same with my cousin. Try StickMount.
I don't know but I think it's going to be hard to do what you want. I'd buy an Asus ChromeBox, put Win10 on it and use that for Kodi MySQL server, torrent, media, etc.

Ive been curious about this, when you say your sister had 4-5 HDDs connected to AFTV, im assuming she has them connected via some sort of usb hub?

I wouldn't use an SD card for long-term torrenting as they're not very good at handling frequent writing.

hobs0n said:
Hello there peeps!
Im thinking of getting rid of my old laptop as my torrentbox/Kodi and fileserver. Its noisy, draws lots of power and it can barely handle 1080p HEVC movies. So Im really longing to buy a Nvidia Shield TV 16GB
Im thinking of buying the 16GB version, putting a 128GB micro-sd card in it and use a powered usb3.0 HUB to connect my current 3 external HDDs to it.
My plans is to let the 128GB micro-sd card act as the torrent partition and storage for the games and apps. When the apps are finished Im moving the stuff to the three external NTFS HDDs and store it on them. All this would be nice to be able to manage with my Android phone. Im thinking that it might be hard on the unit to handle torrents at the same time we watch movies or play games. Is there an app to paus the torrents if the rest needs more resources, or make some kind of script?
Will all this work? Ive read that the Shield TV cant handle more than two external USBs thanks to the limitatons of Android but this can be fixed by rooting it. Is it correct?
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So heres my experience so far: Currently I have 1 external usb 3.0 HDD connected to my shield tv. using an android app called servers ultimate pro, I was able to create multiple file servers. The nice thing is that shield tv is already low powered, but can even go into sleep mode and still run the server (i have a feeling sleep mode just turns off the screen). with servers ultimate, you can get lots of configuration options, limiting the amount of users, ip addresses that can access, you can set up basic rules, and notifications for things like if the server stops or starts, to email, text, pop up a notification, etc. Its pretty nice.
But heres the catch: I've been searching for a solution for over a month now, but transfer rates are slow im getting 5-10MBps on average, but i know the network is capable of more. after searching, it seems to be a limitation of either android, or the protocols the app is using. Another user on here pointed out to me that the SMB protocol for instance, seems to be running SMB v1 (which is already up to like V3- or V4, which are more feature rich and capable of much faster speeds)
then theres the issue of what devices will be accessing it. So far, ive tried my android phone, my windows 10 PC, and an iphone. the android phone can see the servers just fine when configured properly, iphone didn't seem to want to work without any sort of specialized app (which honestly i didn't even try after that point), and windows 10 works, but if you want to map a network drive, your going to need the SMB protocol, and even then it took several weeks of google searching until several tweaks, registry settings, etc finally allowed windows 10 to see my server.
I don't torrent, so unfortunately can't help you on that front, but like another user pointed out, using the sd card will just wear out the amount of times it can read/write. if it does work out for your needs, why not just save directly to the external HDDs?
For the record, I was able to stream using things like kodi or another media player, but i do notice that any initial loading takes several seconds. for example, initial playback will take several seconds to load, but once the video plays, it plays smooth and doesnt stutter or pause, UNLESS i were to try fast forwarding or skipping to another section, then the video takes several seconds again. this all works for my personal needs (for now) but other users might want more demand.
hope any of this helps.

unvaluablespace said:
Ive been curious about this, when you say your sister had 4-5 HDDs connected to AFTV, im assuming she has them connected via some sort of usb hub?
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Yea, both my sister and cousin have the 10 port USB 2.0 hub from Amazon working fine on their Amazon Fire TV's.

Cool, thats good to know. I've been kind of curious about this for in the future (i don't see myself using more than 4 HDD's for whatever server setup i use) Hopefully the shield wont have an issue with this, either. Now just trying to figure out my transfer speed issue. lol

Thank you very much for the experience and help!
This certainly learned me very valuable points

what is the point of putting a server on shield tv?
can you download torrents directly to the shield (hd)?
and would plex be able to see these files?

I have personally done exactly what you are looking for with one of my shield boxes. I installed a Linux chroot on my shield tv (I ended up flashing foll android as it was easier), installed transmission-cli in there, and ran kodi on top then enabled media sharing, and put an ssh server on the machine. Works fantastically.

what does this all enable to do?

This is pretty close to my plans, minus the torrent box and fileserver.
my plan is to load up my new external drive and copy everything from my laptop and existing externals into one location (so I can eliminate duplicates) and then move it to the SHIELD TV and setup KODI so it sees all my files and use it for playback (I can always routinely plan file transfers to it manually thru the USB and computer when I need to add new content), but it would be nice to be able to access the external over the network if possible.

kdb424 said:
I have personally done exactly what you are looking for with one of my shield boxes. I installed a Linux chroot on my shield tv (I ended up flashing foll android as it was easier), installed transmission-cli in there, and ran kodi on top then enabled media sharing, and put an ssh server on the machine. Works fantastically.
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Uhm so you are running some kind of Linux or what is foll Android?

unvaluablespace said:
So heres my experience so far: Currently I have 1 external usb 3.0 HDD connected to my shield tv. using an android app called servers ultimate pro, I was able to create multiple file servers. The nice thing is that shield tv is already low powered, but can even go into sleep mode and still run the server (i have a feeling sleep mode just turns off the screen). with servers ultimate, you can get lots of configuration options, limiting the amount of users, ip addresses that can access, you can set up basic rules, and notifications for things like if the server stops or starts, to email, text, pop up a notification, etc. Its pretty nice.
But heres the catch: I've been searching for a solution for over a month now, but transfer rates are slow im getting 5-10MBps on average, but i know the network is capable of more. after searching, it seems to be a limitation of either android, or the protocols the app is using. Another user on here pointed out to me that the SMB protocol for instance, seems to be running SMB v1 (which is already up to like V3- or V4, which are more feature rich and capable of much faster speeds)
then theres the issue of what devices will be accessing it. So far, ive tried my android phone, my windows 10 PC, and an iphone. the android phone can see the servers just fine when configured properly, iphone didn't seem to want to work without any sort of specialized app (which honestly i didn't even try after that point), and windows 10 works, but if you want to map a network drive, your going to need the SMB protocol, and even then it took several weeks of google searching until several tweaks, registry settings, etc finally allowed windows 10 to see my server.
I don't torrent, so unfortunately can't help you on that front, but like another user pointed out, using the sd card will just wear out the amount of times it can read/write. if it does work out for your needs, why not just save directly to the external HDDs?
For the record, I was able to stream using things like kodi or another media player, but i do notice that any initial loading takes several seconds. for example, initial playback will take several seconds to load, but once the video plays, it plays smooth and doesnt stutter or pause, UNLESS i were to try fast forwarding or skipping to another section, then the video takes several seconds again. this all works for my personal needs (for now) but other users might want more demand.
hope any of this helps.
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Thanks for the all the valuable info!
Using the Shield TV as a torrentbox/fileserver/NAS is only temporary until I can afford a real NAS, or preferably get a mini Linux box running as a VPN server and router but that's in the future, in fact Shield tv is also in the future since I can't afford it now =)
But back to your comments, I checked out Ultimate Pro and it seems it's dead but maybe some of its servers works good Regarding SMB I'm thinking of getting another app for SMB sharing.
Another thing I'm wondering is the multitasking abilities of the Shield TV, sure it's by far the most powerful Android TV box but how can it handle torrenting, SMB sharing, running Kodi at the same time? Or do you have to manually manage it? Or get some apps that let you set up certain priorities? And will it be able to game on the Shield while Kodi/SMB/torrents running in the background?

hobs0n said:
Thanks for the all the valuable info!
Using the Shield TV as a torrentbox/fileserver/NAS is only temporary until I can afford a real NAS, or preferably get a mini Linux box running as a VPN server and router but that's in the future, in fact Shield tv is also in the future since I can't afford it now =)
But back to your comments, I checked out Ultimate Pro and it seems it's dead but maybe some of its servers works good Regarding SMB I'm thinking of getting another app for SMB sharing.
Another thing I'm wondering is the multitasking abilities of the Shield TV, sure it's by far the most powerful Android TV box but how can it handle torrenting, SMB sharing, running Kodi at the same time? Or do you have to manually manage it? Or get some apps that let you set up certain priorities? And will it be able to game on the Shield while Kodi/SMB/torrents running in the background?
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I don't torrent, so unfortunately I can't help you there, but I have tried using my file server in multiple ways: file transfers & streaming video, while running another app, even streaming games. Here are a few examples of things i've tried:
file transferring a big file to my pc, while gamestreaming on the nvidia shield tv at the same time (worked great. I saw no issues during this time)
file transferring a big file to my pc, while running a local app such as netflix, emulators, youtube, (as you can see i tried both maximizing bandwidth, while even testing lag with cpu intensive tasks. again, worked great)
streaming a 1080p movie from the shield tv, to my pc, while gamestreaming from the same pc, back to the shield tv (seemed to work fine. honestly didnt test this for extended period.)
streaming a 1080p movie from the shield tv to my pc, while running local apps on shield tv such as netflix, emulators, youtube, etc (once again, seemed to work fine)
So as you can see, the shield tv seemed to handle everything i threw at it rather well. i even tried multiple apps for multitasking on the shield and i just honestly did not see any performance hints with the media server, aside from anything youd normally expect on the shield tv. keep in mind i am running on a gigabit ethernet network, wired on both ends, from the shield tv to the router, and router to the pc.
my only issue with it all is as mentioned before: transfer speeds are just barely fast enough, even though i know my network and the device is capable of much faster speeds, but the cpu and ram on the shield tv seemed to handle everything i tried rather well.
as for your comment about trying other smb apps, ive gone through several, and the ones i was able to manage to get working, all ended up with the same speeds as with ultimate servers pro. :\ If you can find something that gives you faster speeds, i would love to hear about it so i can try it. i tried ftp server, smb server, webdav server, etc and all seem to max out at about the same speed.

Thanks for your reply!
It really seems the Shield is awesome and powerful to handle multitasking! I'm longing to get my own!
Crappy about the SMB speeds, let's find solutions to that problems

Hm I havent found any real data on the speed between a computer and an Android device when it comes to SMB...
When I transfer between my old gaming laptop from the external usb2.0 HDDs to my Xperia Z3, I get between 700KB/s to 1100KB/s.
The laptop is connected with Ethernet cable to the Netgear CG3799 router and the Z3 is connected with full connection on 802.11N 5Ghz. Altho the laptop is pretty sweaty atm, its converting old DVDs to HEVC and downloading around 15 torrents
Ill compare speeds later when the laptop isnt as busy
What kind of speeds do you peeps get when transfering between Android devices other devices?

Which Samba app are you using?

Hey folks,
I'm trying the same now. Had an Odroid XU4 as file and MySQL Server and try to replace it for an all in one Shield TV Solution.
I'm running a rooted Shield with SambaDroid for the SMB Share which works fine. And KSWEB Server for MySQL and ftp.
Sometimes it seems like the apps are closing in the background, I don't know why, seems to be a android multitadking problem to free up RAM.
But my biggest problem is the transfer speeds. No matter what protocoll (smb/ftp) I'm not getting more then 8 MB/s read out of the box. I tried to read from internal memory, sdcard and my external HDD. All came out with the same speed connected over GBit LAN to my PC.
Write side it much faster with 20 MB/s what I do not really understand but you need root to write to external memory like sdcard or usb.
So far it works, but it is less then optimal compared to my Ordoid XU4 what did 80MB/s but has no HDMI 2.0 output :/
Maybe Android 6.0 brings more speed for the network because It has to be bottlenecked somewhere in the OS, FTP and SMB showing the same speeds.

What's funny is I was actually doing the reverse of what you're doing. I got my Shield as an Android media center device since my Odroid U2 never seemed up to my standards with Kodi. When HardKernel came out with the XU4 I scooped it up and made it my webserver, after seeing an Android TV rom out for it, I flashed it and now Kodi's UI will lag like crazy after about a half hour of usage.
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New MOJO owner. My issues + YouTube Video.

Hello All.
I'm new to the forum and I've been messing around with my MOJO for about a week now since I received it in the mail. I have been plagued with a couple issues, but the experience has been overall positive. I updated the firmware and rooted it using Mad Catz's tutorial. And recently I noticed the new OS upgrade by Unjustified Dev. I haven't decided whether I want to move forward with it yet, because it does void the warranty after all.
I downloaded a boatload of apps and games to play around with. So far no issues until 2 days ago when the MOJO started freezing. It would sometimes get stuck and then eventually respond, but other times it would freeze entirely. It froze 3 times yesterday and 2 times today before I gave up with it. Not sure what to do. Should I upgrade to the new unofficial OS, or should I just return the MOJO?
I also made a quick review of the MOJO a couple days ago before the freezing began happening. See it at /watch?v=MjALrGzpQ4A
The video shows the PSX to USB adapter I tested with much success! As well as a webcam that works with video AND microphone audio. I just can't figure out how to get it to work with Skype and Messenger, as if it were a built-in camera like any other smartphone.

I had constant freezes too using the official software. I upgraded to CyanogenMod 12.1 and it has never frozen since.

Edit: I moved this post over to the CM12.1 thead instead because it was more relevant.

UPDATE: I upgraded to CM12.1 by Unjustified Dev and it works great. Unfortunately I had some trouble getting it to work in the beginning but it seems to function perfect now. It still works with the PSX to USB adapter, but I have yet to try it with a webcam.

Hi all,
I've only had my MOJO for a week or two at this point, but I wanted to throw my two cents in since I had the freezing and didn't end up updating to one of unjustified's roms yet (although I did root with towelroot).
I noticed the freezing occasionally when I had the MOJO multitasking quite a bit.
Restarting the MOJO once a day or so seems to have kept the freezing at bay. I have limitless remote service installed so I can control the MOJO with my phone to save controller battery, so I just use that to restart the thing if I remember or if I feel like it needs it. Being an "always on device" I'm not sure if the caches being cleared etc. is what the issue was, but since I've been restarting the MOJO on a regular basis (much the way I do with my phone) it hasn't really been an issue.
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krikit said:
Hi all,
I've only had my MOJO for a week or two at this point, but I wanted to throw my two cents in since I had the freezing and didn't end up updating to one of unjustified's roms yet (although I did root with towelroot).
I noticed the freezing occasionally when I had the MOJO multitasking quite a bit.
Restarting the MOJO once a day or so seems to have kept the freezing at bay. I have limitless remote service installed so I can control the MOJO with my phone to save controller battery, so I just use that to restart the thing if I remember or if I feel like it needs it. Being an "always on device" I'm not sure if the caches being cleared etc. is what the issue was, but since I've been restarting the MOJO on a regular basis (much the way I do with my phone) it hasn't really been an issue.
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The freezing only started for me about the same time (after 2 weeks from purchase). But after upgrading to CM12, I can confidently say that it is far superior to the Mad Catz stock version of Android, and its totally reversible. If you need any further assistance on how to get it installed, I can help. However, I didn't do the towelroot way, I used USB-USB.
I actually didn't even know that Remix 2.0 was a thing. And now that I know, I may try installing it on my old Dell netbook. Windows Starter ran like crap, but Ubuntu worked better. I can only hope that Remix 2.0 will run even more smoothly.

TwistyTravster said:
I also made a quick review of the MOJO a couple days ago before the freezing began happening. See it at /watch?v=MjALrGzpQ4A
The video shows the PSX to USB adapter I tested with much success! As well as a webcam that works with video AND microphone audio. I just can't figure out how to get it to work with Skype and Messenger, as if it were a built-in camera like any other smartphone.
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Hey, thanks for talking about the peripherals here and in your video. I went ahead and got the playstation to usb adapter. I just need to keymap the dual-shock 2's, and 4-player games can be a thing without having to buy more controllers.
Another side-note: I believe you were speculating in your video about if an optical drive would work with the MOJO? I tested mine out (LG GP50NB40) , but couldn't get it to work with or without extra external power. I did find out that Samsung makes one specifically meant to mount on Android devices that's supposed to work on the Nvidia Shield, so I imagine that one works.

krikit said:
Hey, thanks for talking about the peripherals here and in your video. I went ahead and got the playstation to usb adapter. I just need to keymap the dual-shock 2's, and 4-player games can be a thing without having to buy more controllers.
Another side-note: I believe you were speculating in your video about if an optical drive would work with the MOJO? I tested mine out (LG GP50NB40) , but couldn't get it to work with or without extra external power. I did find out that Samsung makes one specifically meant to mount on Android devices that's supposed to work on the Nvidia Shield, so I imagine that one works.
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I saw, somewhere on the TransformerForums, a post about that--some optical drives can be set to work with Android. (Asus Transformers, at least the older ones, are Tegra-powered Droids). If I get time I'll try to find the post, not right now for sure. Google is a good friend of mine...

krikit said:
Hey, thanks for talking about the peripherals here and in your video. I went ahead and got the playstation to usb adapter. I just need to keymap the dual-shock 2's, and 4-player games can be a thing without having to buy more controllers.
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Yes, I was extremely surprised that the PSX to USB adapter worked so perfectly. I do wonder if you could get 2 of them and connect them to powered USB hub and get all 4 wired controllers to be registered.
FYI, I found out recently that you can actually stream ROM files through ES File Explorer using any of Robert Broglia's emulators on a DLNA/uPnP server, which is AWESOME! That means you could have multiple Android devices streaming games to multiple emulators all from one place, without needing to be directly connected.
krikit said:
Another side-note: I believe you were speculating in your video about if an optical drive would work with the MOJO? I tested mine out (LG GP50NB40) , but couldn't get it to work with or without extra external power. I did find out that Samsung makes one specifically meant to mount on Android devices that's supposed to work on the Nvidia Shield, so I imagine that one works.
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This is the video I saw regarding the external optical drive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvoyab75QgQ
It may be a FAT32 format issue.

What I found on transformerforums.com was a link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2402880
I checked Amazon, it's available in black or white, a bit over US$100.

kevinthefixer said:
What I found on transformerforums.com was a link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2402880
I checked Amazon, it's available in black or white, a bit over US$100.
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Thanks for posting this, that's a good find. I guess it's just a question of if a person's needs justify paying a bit more for a bluray drive that won't let them watch bluray's on the MOJO legally. Even if that's not a consideration, it's a clear case of proprietary garbage rearing it's self-eating head again. I digress.
It almost seems just a matter of time before Google builds this into a future version of Android (unless physical media sales continue to be replaced by digital).
Here's the Samsung DVD drive demo'd on the Shield TV that I was mentioning above: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnwynmT8GVI
Apparently, Samsung has been quick to make Android compatible optical drives to enhance their Galaxy brand: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406001,00.asp

krikit said:
Thanks for posting this, that's a good find. I guess it's just a question of if a person's needs justify paying a bit more for a bluray drive that won't let them watch bluray's on the MOJO legally. Even if that's not a consideration, it's a clear case of proprietary garbage rearing it's self-eating head again. I digress.
It almost seems just a matter of time before Google builds this into a future version of Android (unless physical media sales continue to be replaced by digital).
Here's the Samsung DVD drive demo'd on the Shield TV that I was mentioning above: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnwynmT8GVI
Apparently, Samsung has been quick to make Android compatible optical drives to enhance their Galaxy brand: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406001,00.asp
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I'm thinking the question is why Google hasn't added the few necessary drivers & codecs to Android to support optical drives natively--maybe just to support Samsung's market corner? Or simply not enough interest? It's not a big deal for me, I'd as soon rip a dvd and watch the resulting mp4, store the source dvd for backup purposes. But that's not quite so easy for Windows users, they must pay for an effective dvd ripper, while Linux has several open-source ones. I like Handbrake.

krikit said:
Thanks for posting this, that's a good find. I guess it's just a question of if a person's needs justify paying a bit more for a bluray drive that won't let them watch bluray's on the MOJO legally. Even if that's not a consideration, it's a clear case of proprietary garbage rearing it's self-eating head again. I digress.
It almost seems just a matter of time before Google builds this into a future version of Android (unless physical media sales continue to be replaced by digital).
Here's the Samsung DVD drive demo'd on the Shield TV that I was mentioning above: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnwynmT8GVI
Apparently, Samsung has been quick to make Android compatible optical drives to enhance their Galaxy brand: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406001,00.asp
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I was gonna start a new thread to post about this but I searched DVD and this active thread will do as well as any, I suppose. Hopefully this interests someone!
Earlier today I figured out how to watch encrypted (DRM) retail DVD movies by sharing my PC's DVD drive on my SMB network. My PC is wired via ethernet but the MOJO is fully wifi. The same trick should work for a lot of Blu-Ray and all HD-DVD discs.
First off, I tried just sharing the optical drive on the network. Sorta worked, I could view the files but I couldn't play the movie. So I did a bit more research and figured out that Android doesn't have anything to decrypt your DVD's DRM (as some of you have noted) so I went back to the drawing board. Eventually I came across a Windows program called AnyDVD HD that decrypts DVDs, Blu-Rays, and HD-DVDs on the fly, seconds after you pop them into the drive. I downloaded and installed version 7.3.0.0 from a certain torrent site, you know the one. Don't worry, AnyDVD is no longer in business because they weren't allowed to be making the program in the first place, so you couldn't buy the program if you tried. Installed and patched AnyDVD HD, popped in my retail Scarface anniversary edition DVD and voila! Starts up and plays in seconds via Kodi. Even gets rid of those pesky trailers and FBI warnings. Like I said, this should work with most if not all DVDs and HD-DVDs. Blu-Rays are a little more hit or miss because as I understand it, with each new release they tweak the DRM a bit making it hard for programs like this to keep up.
It might not be as streamlined as having an external plugged directly into it, but for as often as I watch physical media I don't mind walking 20 ft over to my PC and popping the disc in the drive. Hopefully this is useful to everyone! If anyone has questions, feel free to ask!
EDIT: I'm thinking about maybe starting a YouTube channel for MOJO/possibly just general Android Box discoveries, and tips and tricks I've learned. Is this interesting to anyone/would anyone want to contribute?

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Earlier today I figured out how to watch encrypted (DRM) retail DVD movies by sharing my PC's DVD drive on my SMB network. My PC is wired via ethernet but the MOJO is fully wifi. The same trick should work for a lot of Blu-Ray and all HD-DVD discs.
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EDIT: I'm thinking about maybe starting a YouTube channel for MOJO/possibly just general Android Box discoveries, and tips and tricks I've learned. Is this interesting to anyone/would anyone want to contribute?
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Excellent work! If I thought I got surprised finding out about streaming shared ROM files, through ES File Explorer, directly to any of Robert Broglia's emulators. That totally blows my mind. But streaming DVD's wirelessly from one device to another? LOL Hot damn.
Technology... you scare me sometimes.

[Q]Did Nvidia GameStream ever make it to the M.O.J.O.?

I have my M.O.J.O. in my living room and I use it for SPMC(kodi)/NetFlix/Hulu/etc and not much gaming. But I was researching and came across articles such as https://www.engadget.com/2013/11/10/nvidia-gamestream-third-party-devices/
So, the question is: Did nvidia gamestream capabilities ever make it over to the M.O.J.O. or was it all just hype on Mad Catz's part to sell more units? And if it was never officially brought over to the M.O.J.O., is it still possible? Or is it just a waste of time and energy at this point?
I'm looking at wanting to possibly play some pc steam games from the comfort of my living room, so I'm entertaining all options at this point. Do I sell the M.O.J.O. and by a Shield TV? Do I buy a Steam Link? Are there other options?

Hi @greevedogg It did make it to the MOJO... only via a third party client. The project is called Moonlight
It works amazingly well, I've played for hours streaming from my PC to my MOJO
A couple of suggestions: Firstly I found my MOJO starts jittering after playing on in for anything over half an hour. I eventually found out that the MOJO was over heating. I guess it's working pretty hard with all that streaming. I found that if i stand it on it's side, leaving a little gap underneath, there will be better airflow, and it no longer jitters.
Also they suggest using ethernet instead of WIFI, I can agree with this, you get serious lag if you play over WIFI... don't even try it. I play on an ethernet over power adapter and it works perfectly.
You need at least an Nvidia 650 card, and I found it necessary to manually add some games, as they weren't always detected by the Nvidia client.
High FPS games worked perfectly - like DIRT3 but point and clicks are more fun when lying on the couch - have fun with your MOJO
You can find the play store link here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.limelight.root
And the project homepage here: http://moonlight-stream.com/

Thanks @timjharvey! Yeah, I actually stumbled upon the Moonlight option after posting this thread! I had 2 Radeon 1gb video cards in crossfire set up on my pc, but I just switched them out for a 4gb GTX 1050 Ti card, so I could try out Moonlight. Like you said, it works surprising well, from what I have tested out so far... I only tried Counterstrike: Source for a brief moment the other night with a crappy BT keyboard. In the near future, I'll hook up a better set up and load up another game. I am hard-wired with ethernet, so it's pretty snappy there. Traditionally, I'm more of a keyboard and mouse gamer, but I might try to get used to the C.T.R.L.R. if it'll map out keys correctly...I think I'll also try to hook up the good kb & m just for s & g's. Thanks again for the input!

greevedogg said:
I have my M.O.J.O. in my living room and I use it for SPMC(kodi)/NetFlix/Hulu/etc and not much gaming. But I was researching and came across articles such as https://www.engadget.com/2013/11/10/nvidia-gamestream-third-party-devices/
So, the question is: Did nvidia gamestream capabilities ever make it over to the M.O.J.O. or was it all just hype on Mad Catz's part to sell more units? And if it was never officially brought over to the M.O.J.O., is it still possible? Or is it just a waste of time and energy at this point?
I'm looking at wanting to possibly play some pc steam games from the comfort of my living room, so I'm entertaining all options at this point. Do I sell the M.O.J.O. and by a Shield TV? Do I buy a Steam Link? Are there other options?
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timjharvey said:
Hi @greevedogg It did make it to the MOJO... only via a third party client. The project is called Moonlight
It works amazingly well, I've played for hours streaming from my PC to my MOJO
A couple of suggestions: Firstly I found my MOJO starts jittering after playing on in for anything over half an hour. I eventually found out that the MOJO was over heating. I guess it's working pretty hard with all that streaming. I found that if i stand it on it's side, leaving a little gap underneath, there will be better airflow, and it no longer jitters.
Also they suggest using ethernet instead of WIFI, I can agree with this, you get serious lag if you play over WIFI... don't even try it. I play on an ethernet over power adapter and it works perfectly.
You need at least an Nvidia 650 card, and I found it necessary to manually add some games, as they weren't always detected by the Nvidia client.
High FPS games worked perfectly - like DIRT3 but point and clicks are more fun when lying on the couch - have fun with your MOJO
You can find the play store link here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.limelight.root
And the project homepage here: http://moonlight-stream.com/
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this is about four years too late to save the mojo, but it should work https://liquidsky.com it brings true cloud gaming to your phone, tablet, laptop, pc , n of course the mojo and no you don't need a pc of any sort

What firmware are you use?
I have problem with position of mouse
My PC 1080p and my TV 1080p, but mouse cursor has bad position
How i can fix it
My Android 4.2.2 - last official

wave_is said:
What firmware are you use?
I have problem with position of mouse
My PC 1080p and my TV 1080p, but mouse cursor has bad position
How i can fix it
My Android 4.2.2 - last official
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Hi @wave_js I'm running Remix OS - mainly because Netflix also works on this rom. What game are you having mouse cursor issues with? Is the game that you are having cursor issues with running at 1080?