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Hello everybody,
I saw that there was for the wm5 and some lower version that there was a remote controller tool for tv. With info that it only works on HP devices but that was a few years ago.
Does someone know if it is possible or that there is a tv remote controller application for the HD2? It will be really cool to have all those nice functions.
Greets
Tim
Wouldn't that rely on infra-red? Which a lot of modern phones no longer feature because, frankly, it's useless?
Yes- current devices have dropped I/R because no-one uses it anymore, so TV remote applications won't work.
Not that they were ever any good anyway
coddeest said:
Hello everybody,
I saw that there was for the wm5 and some lower version that there was a remote controller tool for tv. With info that it only works on HP devices but that was a few years ago.
Does someone know if it is possible or that there is a tv remote controller application for the HD2? It will be really cool to have all those nice functions.
Greets
Tim
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some new tv's LED have bluetooth and i reckon it is just a matter of time they do a remote control. hang on....
NeilM said:
Yes- current devices have dropped I/R because no-one uses it anymore, so TV remote applications won't work.
Not that they were ever any good anyway
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you are wrong, you have never know how useful it was when I had the Dell Axim, Novii Remote was one of my must have app, it was a huge disappointment most of the modern devices dropped the infra red. With such app, you can customize almost anything you want with any electronics with remote control.
precsmo said:
you are wrong, you have never know how useful it was when I had the Dell Axim, Novii Remote was one of my must have app, it was a huge disappointment most of the modern devices dropped the infra red. With such app, you can customize almost anything you want with any electronics with remote control.
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maybe, but thats one application and a tiny handful of users. With the advent of bluetooth, the low-range, line-of-sight-only IR was rendered useless. Most people use it for file transfer or hands-frees now and tbh not having to have the device in line-of-sight is a godsend. Gdayhtc might be onto something with TVs switching to bluetooth. IR in home devices is pretty much a dead technology.
If someone can/has figured this out I'll buy you a beer.
you can use a wiimote..
Actually, you can't:
forum%xda-developers%com/showpost.php?p=7388551&postcount=7 (account not allowed to post links yet)
It is unclear to me whether this is because the Captivate lacks HID profile support, or because as a BT 3.0 device there is some kind of incompatability (I have heard both).
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If someone can/has figured this out I'll buy you a beer.
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Sorry, never gonna happen. PS3 controller maybe but the 360 controller isn't BT, it uses a proprietary wireless standard.
Why Xbox or Playstation crap is way overpriced!
If you want to use your phone as an emulator that bad you might as well just pay the $10 for a cheapo BT controller. Don't you want something a lot smaller than a bigun PS3 or x360 controller, I'd think something micro would be better suited for travel.
Plus if you're going to be inside to use this (unless your TV is outside), why not just use a PC and out it at 1080 for the real deal? Or is it more for nostalgia
Cool factor only. But it would be neat if I could use the video out to the TV at the shore house and play a game on that. No PC at my shore house:-(
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Sorry, never gonna happen. PS3 controller maybe but the 360 controller isn't BT, it uses a proprietary wireless standard.
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But they also have wired versions that use USB. I don't have a clue about this at all, so I don't know if that's even remotely possible, just throwing one more idea out there. Not as pretty of a solution but if the USB could be sized down to micro and plugged in... Probably not, like I said, just throwing it out there. Would definitely be cool though.
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But they also have wired versions that use USB. I don't have a clue about this at all, so I don't know if that's even remotely possible, just throwing one more idea out there. Not as pretty of a solution but if the USB could be sized down to micro and plugged in... Probably not, like I said, just throwing it out there. Would definitely be cool though.
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Not really possible because the USB doesn't have host support. If someone could write it into the kernel it would be awesome but then there would be many driver issues to arise.
I would just opt for a mini BT gamepad, I am thinking of getting one and loading some old SNES games on my phone.
Wait... is there an actual mini BT game controller that works? I would simply buy one now. Can you point us?
The zeemote looks complicated, you would think a wireless bluetooth snes style controller without axis controls would be simple enough, although I know everyone wants the ps3 for its controls. But this would be an awesome start.
Hopefully with more buttons than the wiimote so snes games play decent.
I would just use the computer you are posting from for this kinda thing.
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.13760
Some have modded these with a SNES controller. If I had any soldering skills I would try it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP8JgqmVES8
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Not really possible because the USB doesn't have host support. If someone could write it into the kernel it would be awesome but then there would be many driver issues to arise.
I would just opt for a mini BT gamepad, I am thinking of getting one and loading some old SNES games on my phone.
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Yeah, I kinda wondered about that, but like I said, I'm new to Android so I'm still learning what it can and can't do.
Still, a controller, especially wireless would be awesome to have. I have reason to believe from talking to someone involved that the Wiimote may not be totally out of the equation. Even if not on stock ROMs, custom ROMs may be able to make it work. I guess like everything else we'll just have to wait and see.
wiimote wont work with samsung phones. The developer of wiimote controller emailed me and said its because of the way samsungs added junk deals with bluetooth. Apparently they modify how bluetooth is dealt with from the stock android.
Hmmm... Interesting ideas.... I never even thought about a Bluetooth controller, that could possibly be the answer right there. Has anyone ever messed around with one? Would it be easy to set up with the captivate? Basically I just wanna be able to go over to my friends place and be like, "yo dudes, check THIS OUT!" And play old school games from my phone. More of a novelty than anything really.
illl try to set one up tomorrow and let you guys know if a reg bluetooth one will work with our 3.0. i remember hearing that it wont but i'll verify.
My understanding is that the galaxy S phones dont use the standard "BlueZ" stack. which is why it wont work.
Can anyone confirm if that bluetooth controller linked above from DealExtreme would work? So theoretically, a controller made for bluetooth 3.0 devices would work?
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Can anyone confirm if that bluetooth controller linked above from DealExtreme would work? So theoretically, a controller made for bluetooth 3.0 devices would work?
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It def. works with Android, but a paid drivers pack from the market is required. Now whether it works with the Galaxy S due to the different Bluetooth stack is the unknown part.
I am not sure how deeply the drivers interact with the bluetooth stack, and if they only work with the stock Android stack. I am planning on buying both the controller above and a SNES controller to mod for use with my PC, and phone if it works.
I am having trouble finding a SNES controller locally but I am told that I can get one on Monday from a buddy at my work.
Just checking to see if anybody has made progress on finding a controller for the captivate/galaxy s?
This is probably one of my most wanted features... get that wiimote working somehow.
This is not possible, correct? There is no IR "receiver" on the unit IIRC.
This will determine whether I put the Ouya in the main TV room where it's used by my wife and parents when they're over babysitting. Right now, I have the Apple TV2 and it's programmed in my Harmony so it's easy for them to use.
So, just to be sure, this can't be programmed with a universal remote?
There's no IR receiver, so the only think that comes to mind is a USB IR receiver, even then dunno what the remote would be able to actually control.
has anyone gotten cec to work with the ouya. there was a discussion on the ouya devs forum about it. cant post the link apparently
I'm curious if this would work. It's a universal remote with bluetooth for a ps3
can't post a url, but the product is SMK-Link Blu-Link - Universal remote control - Bluetooth/infrared
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I'm curious if this would work. It's a universal remote with bluetooth for a ps3
can't post a url, but the product is SMK-Link Blu-Link - Universal remote control - Bluetooth/infrared
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I have a Logitech Harmony One and have the IR to Bluetooth adapter Logitech made for communication with the PS3.
I don't have my OUYA yet, but when I do get one, it will be the first thing that I attempt to use. It only simulates PS3 controller inputs, and from what I understand, PS3 controllers work with the OUYA? Obviously would have no clue how to pair the adapter with the OUYA, but will be fun to tinker nevertheless.
Regardless, for XBMC purposes, imo nothing beats Yatse on my Nexus 4. Sure it would be nice to have all-in-one with the Harmony, but Yatse is just too nice, esp with the plugins (SMS popups on the TV and auto-pause/resume for phone calls). So not end of the world, but still would be nice to see if I could with the Harmony. At very least I'd expect someone to come out with drivers and a usb dongle.
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I'm curious if this would work. It's a universal remote with bluetooth for a ps3
can't post a url, but the product is SMK-Link Blu-Link - Universal remote control - Bluetooth/infrared
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Why did you pick this off-brand PS3 remote? The Sony branded PS3 remote has the same capabilities (bluetooth and IR), but is cheaper than SMK. The Sony branded remote is $18 right now on Amazon. The SMK one is like $30, Amazon and Target.
I don't have either device. But I have a generic IR remote with a USB receiver, and on my computer it acts as a keyboard input. I'm hoping it works on the Ouya. I think I can remap the keys using XBMC.
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Why did you pick this off-brand PS3 remote? The Sony branded PS3 remote has the same capabilities (bluetooth and IR), but is cheaper than SMK. The Sony branded remote is $18 right now on Amazon. The SMK one is like $30, Amazon and Target.
I don't have either device. But I have a generic IR remote with a USB receiver, and on my computer it acts as a keyboard input. I'm hoping it works on the Ouya. I think I can remap the keys using XBMC.
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I have something similar myself. USB IR receiver with a remote that has a "touch disc" on it.
The device actually shows up on Windows as a Universal HID device that works as both a mouse & keyboard.
The media keys and stuff are mapped really oddly, but if you're gonna use it to drive XBMC, you can keymap all that crap without issue.
Then you'll have to make sure you put the receiver where you can get Line Of Sight.
Honestly I am kinda on the fence about this crap at present. I HAVE my Ouya, and it plays games and junk well, but I have a couple issues that I am sort of waiting on:
-No DTS / DD audio passthrough via HDMI to a receiver
-No HDMI-CEC
-Ouya & other game controllers only work as a very limited/terrible keyboard device in current XBMC builds
-No surround sound output from Ouya system-wide (output currently "stuck" on stereo)
-Can't change Ouya output resolution (currently stuck @ 1080P) (My projector wants 720P or 1080i to do SBS 3D content)
Some / all of these are supposedly going to be fixed in software eventually and all are things that the Ouya hardware CAN do. So far my short term lazy solution has just been to use YATSE on my 7" tablet (my main mobile device), which works fine for XBMC needs. I haven't really bothered to fully set up my XBMC stuff (like my library and a nice skin and junk) because I "need" audio passthrough for it to feel like a fully baked solution I will use all the time for movies and junk.
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Why did you pick this off-brand PS3 remote? The Sony branded PS3 remote has the same capabilities (bluetooth and IR), but is cheaper than SMK. The Sony branded remote is $18 right now on Amazon. The SMK one is like $30, Amazon and Target.
I don't have either device. But I have a generic IR remote with a USB receiver, and on my computer it acts as a keyboard input. I'm hoping it works on the Ouya. I think I can remap the keys using XBMC.
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wasn't aware the official remote also worked as a universal remote.. (no ps3) I saw the blue-link mentioned on the xbmc site as well as the official ps3 remote
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Honestly I am kinda on the fence about this crap at present. I HAVE my Ouya, and it plays games and junk well, but I have a couple issues that I am sort of waiting on:
-No DTS / DD audio passthrough via HDMI to a receiver
-No HDMI-CEC
-Ouya & other game controllers only work as a very limited/terrible keyboard device in current XBMC builds
-No surround sound output from Ouya system-wide (output currently "stuck" on stereo)
-Can't change Ouya output resolution (currently stuck @ 1080P) (My projector wants 720P or 1080i to do SBS 3D content)
Some / all of these are supposedly going to be fixed in software eventually and all are things that the Ouya hardware CAN do. So far my short term lazy solution has just been to use YATSE on my 7" tablet (my main mobile device), which works fine for XBMC needs. I haven't really bothered to fully set up my XBMC stuff (like my library and a nice skin and junk) because I "need" audio passthrough for it to feel like a fully baked solution I will use all the time for movies and junk.
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How is HDMI-CEC important if the Ouya already acts as the HTPC? Maybe you had something in mind that was different than what I was thinking of? Isn't CEC just a way for the TV device to control the source via the HDMI connection? Can't you just control the Ouya directly for whatever you wanted the CEC control to be?
Personally, a simple remote (like the Sony PS3 remote) that has IR to turn the TV on/off, and bluetooth to control the Ouya (pause/play/select) is most of what I'm looking for. Using a tablet or smartphone seem to not be as convenient for me.
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xMCNUGGETx said:
wasn't aware the official remote also worked as a universal remote.. (no ps3) I saw the blue-link mentioned on the xbmc site as well as the official ps3 remote
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To me, the required features are to have IR (to control the TV) and bluetooth (to control the Ouya). That'll keep you from needing to hold two remotes.
If anyone has the PS3 remote and an Ouya, I'd be interested in a detail review of how they work together with XBMC. Particularly, how you navigate the menu structure with the arrow keys. It would be nice to not have to use a coffee table mouse for XBMC.
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How is HDMI-CEC important if the Ouya already acts as the HTPC? Maybe you had something in mind that was different than what I was thinking of? Isn't CEC just a way for the TV device to control the source via the HDMI connection? Can't you just control the Ouya directly for whatever you wanted the CEC control to be?
Personally, a simple remote (like the Sony PS3 remote) that has IR to turn the TV on/off, and bluetooth to control the Ouya (pause/play/select) is most of what I'm looking for. Using a tablet or smartphone seem to not be as convenient for me.
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To me, the required features are to have IR (to control the TV) and bluetooth (to control the Ouya). That'll keep you from needing to hold two remotes.
If anyone has the PS3 remote and an Ouya, I'd be interested in a detail review of how they work together with XBMC. Particularly, how you navigate the menu structure with the arrow keys. It would be nice to not have to use a coffee table mouse for XBMC.
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I do and as far as xbmc navigation goes all the major functions work except for the pause and play button and volume but thats not a big deal since its programed to my tv. Navigating through the ouya menu isnt as good since the enter button doesnt work. Also if you have xbmc set to launch at startup and use the ps3 remote that will cause xbmc to crash initially and using the power button to turn the tv off causes the ps3 remote to lose connection to the ouya so yuo'll have to resart the ouya for it to work again. One last thing is you'll need this app to pair it since ouya cant do it out of the box https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sImNvbS5qcG4uZnJvbnRpYS53YWthLkJsdWV0b290aCJd
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Also if you have xbmc set to launch at startup and use the ps3 remote that will cause xbmc to crash initially and using the power button to turn the tv off causes the ps3 remote to lose connection to the ouya so yuo'll have to resart the ouya for it to work again.
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Am I correct in thinking the PS3 remote connects to the Ouya via bluetooth? So on the PS3 remote, the power button doesn't just send the power IR signal to the TV, but also acts as a soft-off to turn off the PS3 remote? Is that why the remote is losing its connection to the Ouya
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Am I correct in thinking the PS3 remote connects to the Ouya via bluetooth? So on the PS3 remote, the power button doesn't just send the power IR signal to the TV, but also acts as a soft-off to turn off the PS3 remote? Is that why the remote is losing its connection to the Ouya
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yes its bluetooth, It seems that the power button also shuts off the remote. Its definitly not ready for day to day yet (I just went to use it and it caused xbmc to crash)
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yes its bluetooth, It seems that the power button also shuts off the remote. Its definitly not ready for day to day yet (I just went to use it and it caused xbmc to crash)
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Thanks for the heads up. That's the kind of operational thing that makes a huge difference in how a device can be used, but you'd never know it from reading the spec sheet.
My plan for the Ouya was to use the PS3 remote, but the disconnect issue might be a big deal. I have a bluetooth mouse (microsoft brand) that I know goes to sleep when not in use, but it wakes up fast and connects fast. The sleep function is really not an issue for that bluetooth mouse.
Can someone please recommend me a really good remote control for the Ouya?
I mostly use Ouya for XBMC and I really hate the Ouya controller, but would like to use a remote control to control the Ouya's main menu & XBMC. Does a remote controller exist for the ouya?
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I would think if you found a Bluetooth remote you could make it work
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I am holding off on a remote until after the next ouya firmware update. They specifically say they are working on HDMI-CEC next ...this feature works great on my raspberry pi xbmc, I just use my TV remote to control xbmc and tv seamlessly
CEC sounds awesome. but - "CEC wiring is mandatory, although implementation of CEC in a product is optional." - does that mean that the TV has to support it, or the ouya has to have it? or both? (i.e. is the new tv I bought last month already out of date?!)
I have been using a cheap Rii BT kbd/trackpad. the trackpad is fairly awful, just all over the place. which is surprising since it works 100% perfect when paired to Windoze laptop. the ouya controller touchpad, in comparison, is nearly perfect.
also been trying one of those PS3 BT+IR remotes - no luck so far, even with all the helpful guides.
I think the main problem is using typical android apps, and also the more-usual android launchers. the sticks/buttons on the ouya controller are often (surprisingly) non-functional when using xbmc or actual android apps (including the settings menu). whereas a BT or USB kbd/mouse is occasionally non-functional using the default ouya UI.
thanks everybody for your replies.
I ended up following this guide http://ouyaforum.com/showthread.php?8670-PS3-BD-Remote-XBMC
And now I'm currently using my PS3 Bluetooth Remote Control (which was collecting dust since I haven't used it in years) which works far superior than I ever hoped for. It works flawlessly through the Ouya interface and XBMC
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I am holding off on a remote until after the next ouya firmware update. They specifically say they are working on HDMI-CEC next ...this feature works great on my raspberry pi xbmc, I just use my TV remote to control xbmc and tv seamlessly
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Can you confirm theyre working on it or said they were, cant find it anywhere.
EFEXR said:
thanks everybody for your replies.
I ended up following this guide http://ouyaforum.com/showthread.php?8670-PS3-BD-Remote-XBMC
And now I'm currently using my PS3 Bluetooth Remote Control (which was collecting dust since I haven't used it in years) which works far superior than I ever hoped for. It works flawlessly through the Ouya interface and XBMC
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wait till the remote falls asleep then you'll think differently.
FatalIll said:
Can you confirm theyre working on it or said they were, cant find it anywhere.
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Did you check the ouya website?
see here https://www.ouya.tv/ouya-system-hotfix-for-abominable-snowman-december-18-2013/
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tarvoke said:
CEC sounds awesome. but - "CEC wiring is mandatory, although implementation of CEC in a product is optional." - does that mean that the TV has to support it, or the ouya has to have it? or both? (i.e. is the new tv I bought last month already out of date?!)
I have been using a cheap Rii BT kbd/trackpad. the trackpad is fairly awful, just all over the place. which is surprising since it works 100% perfect when paired to Windoze laptop. the ouya controller touchpad, in comparison, is nearly perfect.
also been trying one of those PS3 BT+IR remotes - no luck so far, even with all the helpful guides.
I think the main problem is using typical android apps, and also the more-usual android launchers. the sticks/buttons on the ouya controller are often (surprisingly) non-functional when using xbmc or actual android apps (including the settings menu). whereas a BT or USB kbd/mouse is occasionally non-functional using the default ouya UI.
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Both devices must support it. Almost all recent name brand TV support it i believe although they call it different names ie:Sony call it BraviaLink
Hi,
I've bought Shield TV (2017 version) with a vision that I could play all android games on it with a controller. The reality shows that it's not so easy. I have installed one (not from TV shop) and I was surprised that I can't press start. I learned that this android (TV version) doesn't support touch. I could sit and cry or try to do something with that. I tied emulation apps (DroidMote, Game Controller 2 Touch) but also find out that it's not possible. I wonder how can I tackle this. Maybe downgrade or installing a full version of android? I don't care about the warranty but I want to use controller, not my phone.
Thank you in advance for any help.
Regards.
xfenixxx said:
Hi,
I've bought Shield TV (2017 version) with a vision that I could play all android games on it with a controller. The reality shows that it's not so easy. I have installed one (not from TV shop) and I was surprised that I can't press start. I learned that this android (TV version) doesn't support touch. I could sit and cry or try to do something with that. I tied emulation apps (DroidMote, Game Controller 2 Touch) but also find out that it's not possible. I wonder how can I tackle this. Maybe downgrade or installing a full version of android? I don't care about the warranty but I want to use controller, not my phone.
Thank you in advance for any help.
Regards.
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You can by a Bluetooth mouse pad. They are pretty cheap on Amazon. A lot of them have the little keypads. It's really not ideal but IDK any other way to play games meant for touch.
SantinoInc said:
You can by a Bluetooth mouse pad. They are pretty cheap on Amazon. A lot of them have the little keypads. It's really not ideal but IDK any other way to play games meant for touch.
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Hi Santinoln,
thank you for your answer.
I have bought Logitech K400 Plus and even Microsoft Sculpt Comfort Mouse but nothing helped. Do you know from personal experience thank some model actually works?
xfenixxx said:
Hi Santinoln,
thank you for your answer.
I have bought Logitech K400 Plus and even Microsoft Sculpt Comfort Mouse but nothing helped. Do you know from personal experience thank some model actually works?
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Wireless Mini Android Keyboard 2.4GHz 3 in 1 Touchpad Mouse Keyboard Combo Mini KODI XBMC Portable Perfect for PC Google Android Smart TV Tivo Box Mini TV PC Stick HTPC IPTV Laptop Raspberry PI PS3 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01COVNW7U?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf