Hello everybody,
I saw that there was for the wm5 and some lower version that there was a remote controller tool for tv. With info that it only works on HP devices but that was a few years ago.
Does someone know if it is possible or that there is a tv remote controller application for the HD2? It will be really cool to have all those nice functions.
Greets
Tim
Wouldn't that rely on infra-red? Which a lot of modern phones no longer feature because, frankly, it's useless?
Yes- current devices have dropped I/R because no-one uses it anymore, so TV remote applications won't work.
Not that they were ever any good anyway
coddeest said:
Hello everybody,
I saw that there was for the wm5 and some lower version that there was a remote controller tool for tv. With info that it only works on HP devices but that was a few years ago.
Does someone know if it is possible or that there is a tv remote controller application for the HD2? It will be really cool to have all those nice functions.
Greets
Tim
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
some new tv's LED have bluetooth and i reckon it is just a matter of time they do a remote control. hang on....
NeilM said:
Yes- current devices have dropped I/R because no-one uses it anymore, so TV remote applications won't work.
Not that they were ever any good anyway
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you are wrong, you have never know how useful it was when I had the Dell Axim, Novii Remote was one of my must have app, it was a huge disappointment most of the modern devices dropped the infra red. With such app, you can customize almost anything you want with any electronics with remote control.
precsmo said:
you are wrong, you have never know how useful it was when I had the Dell Axim, Novii Remote was one of my must have app, it was a huge disappointment most of the modern devices dropped the infra red. With such app, you can customize almost anything you want with any electronics with remote control.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
maybe, but thats one application and a tiny handful of users. With the advent of bluetooth, the low-range, line-of-sight-only IR was rendered useless. Most people use it for file transfer or hands-frees now and tbh not having to have the device in line-of-sight is a godsend. Gdayhtc might be onto something with TVs switching to bluetooth. IR in home devices is pretty much a dead technology.
Related
I've installed TV remote controller 5.5 from www.pdawin.com but cannot get any of the built in settings ie. SONY TV to controll my equipment. I cannot get the XDA2 to respond to the softwares learn function either. Can anyone please help?
I had this exact same issue. I gave up after 20 minutes. If anyone has any tips on using as a remote, I would also be very interested to know.
well i cant say for xda2 but i had it running on xda1 and the Infrared transmitter is WEAK! the tv would only react if the xda1 were as close as 30cm from the reciever of the tv
so unless the Infrared t ransceiver is much more powerfull then the one in xda1 then even if you find a remote program it's next to useless with such a short range
unless you build something like this
http://www.pdawin.com/irtranceiver.html
I had TV remote working on my previous Dell Axim X5. The IR transmitter was weak too, think it had to be within a metre or so from memory.
I've tried the XDA2 only inches away from the IR sensor on the TV and it still doesn't work, either it is really low powered? or there is a fault somewhere?
This is probably a hardware limitation.
It's possible that the used infrared led's aren't emitting in the standard consumer electronics spectrum.
If this is the case, the XDA II can't be used for remote control applications, unless you replace the IR transmitter (which means opening the case and voiding warranty).
It wont work due to the fact that the Xda II does not have a consumer standard IrDA module on it. A severe limitation of the Xda II as well I feel. A bit of a step backward from the Xda I too.
Grrr. I didnt want it anyway.
its not a hardware problem.... its a software problem...
RichMercer said:
It wont work due to the fact that the Xda II does not have a consumer standard IrDA module on it. A severe limitation of the Xda II as well I feel. A bit of a step backward from the Xda I too.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, XDA2 can not be used for remote control applications!
I wonder why anybody would want to turn this beautiful cutting edge piece of technology into a remote control when a very comprehensive learning remote can be had for about £5.
cruisin-thru said:
I wonder why anybody would want to turn this beautiful cutting edge piece of technology into a remote control when a very comprehensive learning remote can be had for about £5.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've often asked myself the same question I do see people with PDA's creating the odd havoc in TV shops n department stores switching the channels etc.
Really have not wanted to control my TV, aircon or anything else with my XDA II .
I wonder why anybody would want to turn this beautiful cutting edge piece of technology into a remote control when a very comprehensive learning remote can be had for about £5.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well i suppose many people say the same thing with a search replace of remote to phone when they see how much more we pay to get a pda and cellphone in one
Even fully compliant IrDA components are only rated for a transmit distance of 1 meter. Consumer remote controls are much brighter.
Yes and since the cheapest usable tv remote controller with a more powerfull beam can be bought for around 5 dollar... why didn´t they put these ir leds in the mda xda ii?? max difference 1 dollar in large quantities?
With all these remotes laying around on the table (about 8 of them) tv remote on the pocketpc would be very usefull. Learning mode, program what you need or get them from the database on internet. Also the possibility to program macro´s so you press one button to play and watch dvd and power on 5.1 surround system.....
How can the ir leds be tweaked?
michiel
Yes and since the cheapest usable tv remote controller with a more powerfull beam can be bought for around 5 dollar... why didn´t they put these ir leds in the mda xda ii?? max difference 1 dollar in large quantities?
With all these remotes laying around on the table (about 8 of them) tv remote on the pocketpc would be very usefull. Learning mode, program what you need or get them from the database on internet. Also the possibility to program macro´s so you press one button to play and watch dvd and power on 5.1 surround system.....
How can the ir leds be tweaked?
michiel
Yes and since the cheapest usable tv remote controller with a more powerfull beam can be bought for around 5 dollar... why didn´t they put these ir leds in the mda xda ii?? max difference 1 dollar in large quantities?
With all these remotes laying around on the table (about 8 of them) tv remote on the pocketpc would be very usefull. Learning mode, program what you need or get them from the database on internet. Also the possibility to program macro´s so you press one button to play and watch dvd and power on 5.1 surround system.....
How can the ir leds be tweaked?
michiel
the only useful app that ive ever found for any pda to control a pice of equpiment was one for a palm that i had,
the software was called mini-disk titler ,
you just filled in the track names on the screen then tapped on title. the pda then sent the sequence of button presses to title the disk in about 20 seconds , much quicker than faffing with all the menus on the player
ian
well the very brigth remote leds may not be able to transmit data as far as the ir in the xda
about extenders for the ir
http://www.pdawin.com/irtranceiver.html
http://www.homeautomationnet.com/Shopping/remote-control-accessories.asp
http://www.smarthome.com/8220A.html
I have tried a couple, but one does not support the processor type and the other just hangs my MDA.
Anyone know of any decent remote control apps to control TV's etc?
I have tried 2... one from Vito and one called TV Remote Controller 5.7. I have been unable to get either to work and no support at all from either on my support requests.
I probably try like 4-5 programs but non work.
You'll be struggling anyway. IR on the wizard is a short range type so unless you want get off the couch to go shove the PDA a foot away from the TV you'll be disappointed.
I do not care about distance of remote as i desperatly need something that will allow me to access the service modes of my 55" television. A quick in and out and not for normal use.
I just need software that works for Philips Service modes. And that is a special order remote if i cant get this software going.
It's getting off topic but why don't you just buy a universal remote - they come with the codes for the various manufacturers.
JoninLA, i agree with you
the only time i ever used a sftware remote...was at school....used to rewind the tapes and turn tv on and off
otherwise its not for everyday use
and i also heard the wizard IR device cant supprt the signal..
The Wizard's OMAP processor is giving everyone fits. There are no remote control apps that work on the Wizard yet. Novii looks to be closest; they just signed a developer agreement with TI. Read more about this here.
MrCyberdude said:
I do not care about distance of remote as i desperatly need something that will allow me to access the service modes of my 55" television. A quick in and out and not for normal use.
I just need software that works for Philips Service modes. And that is a special order remote if i cant get this software going.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So does NoviiRemote Deluxe - more than 700 codes are available. I finally found a codebase for my TV that is 17 years old
anybody here know to to enable HD2's infrared port for us to use it on Novii IR Remote?
Thanks.
the HD2 has no IR port.
I would love to get an ir remote program working on the hd2. there are portable ir transmitters that plug into the 3.5" audio port that with the right program can be used as remote controls for tvs/dvd players/etc. The redeye mini is a recent on i saw released for the iphone... if someone developed a program for wm that used those transmitters, I would definitely buy it.
zarathustrax said:
I would love to get an ir remote program working on the hd2. there are portable ir transmitters that plug into the 3.5" audio port that with the right program can be used as remote controls for tvs/dvd players/etc. The redeye mini is a recent on i saw released for the iphone... if someone developed a program for wm that used those transmitters, I would definitely buy it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can get a good All-in-one-IR-Remote Control (p.ex. from Logitech) for almost the same price as a transmitter so why you want to use that? Its uncomfortable, slower in use and the haptic feedback on the flat screen of the HD2 is worse than on a real hardware remote control... Just help me understand
elburna said:
You can get a good All-in-one-IR-Remote Control (p.ex. from Logitech) for almost the same price as a transmitter so why you want to use that? Its uncomfortable, slower in use and the haptic feedback on the flat screen of the HD2 is worse than on a real hardware remote control... Just help me understand
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because I have different devices throughout my home that I could use that for, not to mention at my moms and brothers homes, and I always have my phone with me. I don't want to have to carry a remote, also. Plus remotes have a habit of getting lost in my house. It would be convenient to be able to pull my phone out where ever Im at and control everything in my house. $50 for the redeye mini is kinda expensive, but I think I've seen cheaper ones.
zarathustrax said:
Because I have different devices throughout my home that I could use that for, not to mention at my moms and brothers homes, and I always have my phone with me. I don't want to have to carry a remote, also. Plus remotes have a habit of getting lost in my house. It would be convenient to be able to pull my phone out where ever Im at and control everything in my house. $50 for the redeye mini is kinda expensive, but I think I've seen cheaper ones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the infared feature is damn great to works with...esp last time when i was using xda flame....super infared device....basically control any ir stb or devices except my air-con.....how i wish thinkflood will release redeye also for windows mobile..
So I was digging through the source code Samsung released for the Galaxy S, and in the eclair zip I started digging through the bluetooth folder and came across multiple files that look like they support pairing a PS3 controller...
when you have functions like
Code:
static int ps3remote_decode
it gets you thinking lol.
So anyone with some experience with this device let me know if its even possible to pair with a sixaxis or dual shock 3, and if you have some experience with source take a look at the attached zip, its the
external/bluetooth/bluez/input folders contents
Main references are in sixpair.c which is the actual pairing application I'd assume, and in fakehid.c, and fakehid.h
chaoscentral said:
So I was digging through the source code Samsung released for the Galaxy S, and in the eclair zip I started digging through the bluetooth folder and came across multiple files that look like they support pairing a PS3 controller...
when you have functions like
Code:
static int ps3remote_decode
it gets you thinking lol.
So anyone with some experience with this device let me know if its even possible to pair with a sixaxis or dual shock 3, and if you have some experience with source take a look at the attached zip, its the
external/bluetooth/bluez/input folders contents
Main references are in sixpair.c which is the actual pairing application I'd assume, and in fakehid.c, and fakehid.h
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wouldn't jump to conclusions to fast. Because of the DLNA support I think they are talking about the PS3 remote control not the controller.
I'm sure the support can be added but it probably would take a little bit of hacking.
you know I'm not so sure now. I just looked in the main branch of Froyo source, and sure enough those files are still there. So I don't think it has anything to do with DLNA. Plus if it did, why would it have anything in there having to do with pairing a PS3 controller and decoding the button presses of one and assigning them to keyboard presses. Has absolutely nothing to do with DLNA
As I said its probably referencing the video playback remote control and not the game controller. Both use Bluetooth
Sent from my Behold II using XDA App
and like I said Sixpair.c specifically Mentions Dualshock 3, so I don't think thats what it's mentioning. Especially considering theres button mapping for L3 and R3 which isnt on the bluetooth remote for PS3
chaoscentral said:
and like I said Sixpair.c specifically Mentions Dualshock 3, so I don't think thats what it's mentioning. Especially considering theres button mapping for L3 and R3 which isnt on the bluetooth remote for PS3
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good Point but it think there is i'll go check mine later
chaoscentral said:
and like I said Sixpair.c specifically Mentions Dualshock 3, so I don't think thats what it's mentioning. Especially considering theres button mapping for L3 and R3 which isnt on the bluetooth remote for PS3
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You didn't mention that in your first post. You just said can it be configured with a dual shock or sixaxis controller.
sixpair is a helper to pair with a Sony DS3/Sixaxis bluetooth controller.
it is part of the bluetooth protocol stack for Linux, called Bluez.
they used this helper to get the DS3/6axis to work on the Nokia N900.
So it is possible!!!
this is just amazing if it could do that
psychoace said:
As I said its probably referencing the video playback remote control and not the game controller. Both use Bluetooth
Sent from my Behold II using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
video playback remote control is just a rearrangement of ps3 controller button functions into a tradition remote control format.
Wii/PS3 bluetooth controller problem?
All reports of the WiiMoteController say it doesnt work on the Galaxy S.
Do we know why exactly? the author comments on this for the HTC devices. does the galaxy S share the same problem?
"on some devices, mostly HTC, the application starts searching and then stops immediately with the "Error no -1" message, even if the bluetooth is on. Most likely a fault from HTC and unfixible for now. See this thread for technical info. If you're a developer and have solved this kind of issue before, please tell how! A lot of Android users will be very grateful
(finding the wiimote with the phone is not the actuall issue here, but rather the lack of support for the low-level connectivity with the phone's bluetooth. BAD, BAD HTC! Go stand in the corner!)"
is this a quick fix or something deeper?
With regards to the htc sense affecting the wii controller app - I believe theres a bug with the htc bluetooth stack that returns null when pairing devices this stops code beyond this from executing, or something along those lines.
The way around this is to use a ROM, without Htc sense like OpenDesire, which has been tested on these forums.
Still as yet i don't know what the reason is for the Samsung Galaxy S, if its a similar bluetooth issue, but i'm as eager as you to find out because it would make the perfect emulation device with that screen!
jazzyjeffm said:
With regards to the htc sense affecting the wii controller app - I believe theres a bug with the htc bluetooth stack that returns null when pairing devices this stops code beyond this from executing, or something along those lines.
The way around this is to use a ROM, without Htc sense like OpenDesire, which has been tested on these forums.
Still as yet i don't know what the reason is for the Samsung Galaxy S, if its a similar bluetooth issue, but i'm as eager as you to find out because it would make the perfect emulation device with that screen!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes it would! i 100% agree hence my interest too. especially with the ps1 emulator around the corner...
would love more input on this, i might try tweeting paul later see if he replies.
OrionTC said:
yes it would! i 100% agree hence my interest too. especially with the ps1 emulator around the corner...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Awaking from sleepy mode : What? Around the corner? How far till a workin one?
I would LOOOVE a psx emulator with a working PS3 controler.. Maybe with froyo (also around the corner) we get 2 flies at once.. Faster emulator and (support for) a real controler (WOW!)
droidforums.net/forum/droid-games/35309-playstation-emulator-development-40.html
its pretty much ready just waiting for a few tweaks from the emulator android guy. only the dev's word on that though, but its the same guys who did the iphone emulators zottd (or something) and the guy who did the android emulators. should be a good product.
and yes wtb froyo and increased bluetooth support for controllers
they also mention about the PS3 controller and there may be a way to sync it but you need to sync with a PC first...not sure on the reasoning behind that.
OrionTC said:
droidforums.net/forum/droid-games/35309-playstation-emulator-development-40.html
its pretty much ready just waiting for a few tweaks from the emulator android guy. only the dev's word on that though, but its the same guys who did the iphone emulators zottd (or something) and the guy who did the android emulators. should be a good product.
and yes wtb froyo and increased bluetooth support for controllers
they also mention about the PS3 controller and there may be a way to sync it but you need to sync with a PC first...not sure on the reasoning behind that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Bit offtopic.. But interesting in this context:
http://www.zodttd.com/wp/2010/07/are-you-still-working-on-porting-your-emulators-over-for-android/
http://www.zodttd.com/wp/2010/07/are-you-still-working-on-the-n64-emulator-for-android/
I LOVE SAMSUNG GALAXY S. I really want to buy it... but physical keyboard= better gaming. Solution Wii mote ime... so I emailed the dev. Still no response. Will keep you updated.
Sent from my CM7 IN_STEREO ((WHERE AVAILABLE)) G1 using XDA App
Man, that would be sweet. One thing about the galaxy s is that it has a great screen and powerful GPU but the only controls are the ones on the screen that are difficult to play with. I know this is of topic but does anyone know if the wiimote will ever be compadable with the galaxy s. I have tried it and does not work as of now.
It will work when the cyanogenmod ROM comes out, they have announced they are supporting the Galaxys S, should only be a matter of time.
It's just to use the ps3 controller to control your games. You can do the same with the WiiMote, you can even use it in the NES and SNES emulators.
Hey all,
I am interested in the idea of using my phone to control my home theatre equipment. The ability to control any IR equipment with your phone would be a very neat feature and a nice selling point, especially as Google has made clear their intentions to enter the home automation field. However at present it seems very hard to do this with Android.
I know that a solution is to use an IR transmitter connected to the 3.5mm headphone jack. The leader in this market seems to be a company called ThinkFlood who have a product called RedEye Mini. Here's an explanation of how it works...
http://thinkflood.com/products/redeye-mini/#how-does-it-work
Unfortunately for us Android users the software is in beta testing and the RedEye Mini hardware is not compatible yet.
I am wondering if anyone can shed some light on this project and whether it can be achieved yet by any other means?
Also does anyone know whether native support of IR hardware has been considered for Android. Seeing as this technology could very easily be built into phones it seems like a smart move for Google with their home automation drive and all.
I am interested to hear your thoughts and solutions.
Thanks
The concept of home automation would be improved if IR were not used at all. Line of sight comms is very limiting. On the plus side of course it means there are fewer radio waves flying round my house and frying my brain!
I agree 100%. I need to keep all the brain cells I can
Unfortunately though most home theatre equipment still relies of IR and I believe it will for a few more years. Google should jump on IR if they are serious about home automation.
if you use XBMC than there is an nice app to control it and many more.
Controlling the PC is easy as apps can communicate with it via my home network. The problem I have is using my phone to communicate with other equipment such as my TV and AV receiver. For these the only way I can think of controlling them is via IR.
edcoppen, as far as I know you have 2 options for IR on Android:
1/ - Already available DIY solutions -
You can check the Androlirc application (that would be me!)
And a friend of the project has developed a enhanced Audio2IR module that is called Irdroid (mine was just a proof of concept)
You'll have to be (or get) familiar with LIRC to go down that path.
2/ - Anounced and "soon to be available" IR equipped Android devices -
Touchsquid
Conspin Andi One
That a lot of link dropping for a first post, I hope xdadevelopers will let me submit that... (Submit...) Yeah, that's what I thought, you'll just have to look for web sites by yourself then.
Anyway I think we're gonna get some action in the IR/Tablet world soon... Until we get rid of that 30 years old, one way tech (on the plus side, it "owns" 100% of the market and the battery autonomy for a traditional remote control has to be measured in years... that's close to an infinity in the Android world)!
Quite interesting that there will be IR equipped mobile devices any more. I thought the technology would die out. I actually still carry my Nokia N73 with me and from time to time change the channel on the TV in the pub. Great fun!!!
Yeah, I had a nokia 7650 ten years ago with an IR transmitter/receiver and used to have so much fun changing channels in my sports bar. I reckon the technology has less interest nowadays as we move further into the digital age. The best and easiest way to automate your home theatre and stereo systems is to connect them to a pc and control everything from your phone. there are tons of apps in the market that allow you to do this. I have tried a few and am currently using three I find the best: Unified remote (specifically for their spotify remote, which now a days is my stereo system, but they have tons of other remotes and works great over LAN), phonemypc (for me one of the best vnc apps in the market) and remote desktop client, a great RDP app. Whatever you can connect to your pc (with the right hardware/firmware you can even connect all the appliances in your home, even your lights and air-conditioned, to a main server) you can control from your phone, either through LAN - using your home network - or even away from home using the internet (WAN). IR is an obsolete technology in the digital age.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA Premium App
StreetGuru said:
Whatever you can connect to your pc (with the right hardware/firmware you can even connect all the appliances in your home, even your lights and air-conditioned, to a main server) you can control from your phone, either through LAN - using your home network - or even away from home using the internet (WAN). IR is an obsolete technology in the digital age.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I dont agree that it is a dead technology... yet! Most AV devices in the home still rely on it and unless i'm mistaken cannot be connected via the PC. Take for example my Samsung TV or my Harman Kardon AVR. I really want to be able to control these from my phone and cant find a viable solution. I have all the apps you mentioned and none of them help me here. You say via the right hardware/firmware can help... but what hardware would you use to connect the two devices I named to a PC, and how mush does it cost?
If an IR transmitter could be built into a watch 10 years ago I see no reason why it coultn't easily be added to a mobile phone. I know its personal preference but I would see it as a strong selling point.
IR hardware range too weak
My older HTC Windows phone had IR support, I had hoped to install AV remote sw on it. Found out the hard way that the IR range on many phones that had the hardware was only a few feet. It was intended as a bidirectional business card sharing type of thing before bluetooth took over. I'm thinking bluetooth is why most phones don't even have the IR hardware built in anymore.
I'm currently looking for a T-Mobile Froyo phone that has IR with sufficient range for AV remote use, any experts out there?
I don't want to depend on any dongles plugged in to the phone, but I would consider an external wireless box that had the IR command set and transmitter and a wireless way to communicate with the phone, preferably bluetooth so I don't have to turn on the wifi radio every time I use it.
i have a new enough Sammy tv to use DLNA etc, but that means turning on the wifi.