Anyway to root G935FD(Exynos) without tripping knox?
Cant wait to root my phone , but still worry about the screen replacement in the future
Do you guys have any idea?
No probably wont ever happen.
mindstorms54 said:
Anyway to root G935FD(Exynos) without tripping knox?
Cant wait to root my phone , but still worry about the screen replacement in the future
Do you guys have any idea?
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Root without tripping knox is possible if a Engineering Bootloader surfaces.
But I'm not sure whether even it can retain the 0x0 for a longer time.
No the system scans for any abnormalities in the system and if it senses any changes boom knox tripped
It's extremely unlikely we will get root without tripping knox and like @Ausboy 2011 said, the system will trip knox if it detects any system modifications. Something as simnple as installing a root app could trip knox in this case.
They released an engineering bootloader for the galaxy S6 Edge. So it IS possible. We just need to wait for that time to come. With the engineering bootloader you can modify anything on the system without tripping knox. You just need to flash EVERYTHING back to stock at the same time if you chose to remove said bootloader. Also, I know in the beginning phases of use of this engineering bootloader they lost use of their fingerprint reader. So there's always that possibility too. But we'll just have to see if/when that time comes.
jaredroid said:
They released an engineering bootloader for the galaxy S6 Edge. So it IS possible. We just need to wait for that time to come. With the engineering bootloader you can modify anything on the system without tripping knox. You just need to flash EVERYTHING back to stock at the same time if you chose to remove said bootloader. Also, I know in the beginning phases of use of this engineering bootloader they lost use of their fingerprint reader. So there's always that possibility too. But we'll just have to see if/when that time comes.
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Looking forward to the day
Is Samsung pay rendered useless if you root then?
psufan5 said:
Is Samsung pay rendered useless if you root then?
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If you trip knox then yes.
peachpuff said:
If you trip knox then yes.
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And you can't "untrip" knox by going back to stock I assume?
Yes
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thing is we have the engineer bootloader for the s7 edge already. just noone has it working yet
mindstorms54 said:
Anyway to root G935FD(Exynos) without tripping knox?
Cant wait to root my phone , but still worry about the screen replacement in the future
Do you guys have any idea?
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what happens if knox is tripped? Can't i use mobile payment or anything?
tazoman said:
what happens if knox is tripped? Can't i use mobile payment or anything?
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No,if Knox is tripped Samsung Pay will not work
tazoman said:
what happens if knox is tripped? Can't i use mobile payment or anything?
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Btw
Your warranty will be void
mindstorms54 said:
Btw
Your warranty will be void
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This actually varies depending on your location. For instance, in Europe, tripping knox will NOT void warranty. It is against EU law to refuse a hardware repair just because the software has been modified.
CuBz90 said:
This actually varies depending on your location. For instance, in Europe, tripping knox will NOT void warranty. It is against EU law to refuse a hardware repair just because the software has been modified.
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That's true, but most places don't care, as they just send it to Samsung and they deny warranty repair because of tripped knox. You can of course get the repair if you take the fight up.. But really, who want to? I sued the place where I bought my S6, because they would not repair a KNOWN HARDWARE failure on the S6 (pink dots on front camera) after I had rooted my phone. They sent it to Samsung and they denied. By law they should pay the repair then.
I was told I was right by Danish Customer Service, but they needed my phone for like 7-8 months and I did not have my S7 Edge there, so I would be without a phone, so I called it.. For really, what could I win? I knew I would upgrade when the S7 came out anyway.
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That's true, but most places don't care, as they just send it to Samsung and they deny warranty repair because of tripped knox. You can of course get the repair if you take the fight up.. But really, who want to? I sued the place where I bought my S6, because they would not repair a KNOWN HARDWARE failure on the S6 (pink dots on front camera) after I had rooted my phone. They sent it to Samsung and they denied. By law they should pay the repair then.
I was told I was right by Danish Customer Service, but they needed my phone for like 7-8 months and I did not have my S7 Edge there, so I would be without a phone, so I called it.. For really, what could I win? I knew I would upgrade when the S7 came out anyway.
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Here in the UK, Samsung will repair even if Knox is tripped. I have had a few repairs over the years and have always had tripped Knox. Some other UK users on here have confirmed the same.
Well that's nice. Sure they're are aware Knox was tripped? Because I was an idiot back then, I sent my phone in with a custom ROM, så they could not enter the binary, which was the reason they saw Knox was tripped.. When I said I would flash stock firmware, they said that was not possible without replacing something inside (the motherboard I think).
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Well that's nice. Sure they're are aware Knox was tripped? Because I was an idiot back then, I sent my phone in with a custom ROM, så they could not enter the binary, which was the reason they saw Knox was tripped.. When I said I would flash stock firmware, they said that was not possible without replacing something inside (the motherboard I think).
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A Samsung rep in one of the repair stores told me that it doesn't matter if it has a tripped Knox as long as we put the stock firmware on the phone and it is NOT rooted. If it's rooted they will refuse.
However, I have known people to get the repair even when rooted.
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This is the most expensive phone(almost $900 AUD) I bought an I've never needed warranty before, but because of the Knox issue I'm afraid to root it and lose my 2 year manufacturer warranty.
Would you root your phone if there was no Knox counter?
ilikegoogle said:
This is the most expensive phone(almost $900 AUD) I bought an I've never needed warranty before, but because of the Knox issue I'm afraid to root it and lose my 2 year manufacturer warranty.
Would you root your phone if there was no Knox counter?
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i rooted anyway, im insured so if the phone software breaks i will smash the screen so no one will see lol
you can root with 0+0 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2479952
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We still don't have knox ?
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Oh my god those spammers. ^
Just use Root de la Vega, I rooted and am on KNOX 0x0.
Nothing stopped me from Rooting. But flashing a custom recovery is another case, if that is what you meant.
nicholaschum said:
Just use Root de la Vega, I rooted and am on KNOX 0x0.
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Tempted to try that, but seeing a couple people trip the knox counter. I might wait a couple weeks before I try though. Coming from a Nexus 4, touchwiz doesn't seem that bad, so wouldn't really care about custom roms at the moment. Though rooting to get adblock and GMD gesture would be my main reasons.
ilikegoogle said:
This is the most expensive phone(almost $900 AUD) I bought an I've never needed warranty before, but because of the Knox issue I'm afraid to root it and lose my 2 year manufacturer warranty.
Would you root your phone if there was no Knox counter?
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I rooted my device and triggered the Knox counter so my warranty is void. I could care less as I want full control over my device and find manufacturers always hinder the device limitations. As for Knox... I'm sure someone will soon come out with a patch you can run to reset the counter. Unfortunately, I did not buy insurance with my device as I was ROOTING to use on another carrier but yeah, I would just go for it.
Hey guys,
I've read lots of articles about Knox and the whole eFuse thing but the more I read the more unsure I get about rooting my S4 mini. Because of this and because I think you don't get any S4s without "activated" Knox Bootloader anymore I thought it would be helpful for all S4 mini owners (and maybe all Knox device owners in general) to list all downsides and also rumors about "blowing the eFuse" to hopefully take away some of the fears.
I think it's already clear that you could loose your warranty if you got a 0x1 flag. Which doesn't seem to affect EU people But anyway, I'd rather like to get a list of all the irreversible consequences with your device itself when rooting etc:
:: EDITED & ADDED SOME QUESTIONS ::
The answers in green = positive or red = negative show the current state according to the replies in here, If you have other experiences please let us know.
[ROOTING tripping KNOX 0x1]
Are there any irreversible malfunctions when rooting your device (especially the GT-I9195) and turning to "knox warranty void 0x1"?
Are all (pre-installed) apps - except the Knox apps - still working as they should on rooted stock roms (s-apps, cam, calendar,..)?
[GOING BACK TO DEFAULT FACTORY STATUS]
Regarding the software only:
can you go back to 100% factory status (unrooted, stock etc) with a "Knox Warranty Void 0x1?
- Yes, according to iPAQS4 you can go back with no malfunctions
Do you get the Knox warnings again?
No, according to iPAQS4
Are there any other app or system malfunctions?
- No
Is it true that OTA updates won't work anymore once you tripped your knox flag?
- No, according to iPAQS4 they still work
Is it possible to get official updates via Kies / USB cable still?
- Yes, according to iPAQS4
[FAILURES ROOTING, KNOX]
Regarding the Knox environment only, not self-caused rooting failures:
can there else go anything wrong that can't be undone like breaking important hardware?
or is there a higher chance to brick your device with Knox than without?
is an intact eFuse required by some other hardware (NFC, etc)?
Are there any other known problems/downsides?
Here is an interesting article about all myths & truths about Knox. It's very informative and also answers a few of my questions: http://androidforums.com/boost-mobi...t/807188-guide-q-myths-truths-about-knox.html
Honky-Tonk said:
Hey guys,
I've read lots of articles about Knox and the whole eFuse thing but the more I read the more unsure I get about rooting my S4 mini. Because of this and because I think you don't get any S4s without "activated" Knox Bootloader anymore I thought it would be helpful for all S4 mini owners (and maybe all Knox device owners in general) to list all downsides and also rumors about "blowing the eFuse" to hopefully take away some of the fears.
I think it's already clear that you can loose your warranty if you got a 0x1 flag. But I'd rather like to get a list of all the irreversivble consequences with your device itself when rooting etc:
Can you go back to stock Rom (un-rooted) with a "Knox Warranty Void 0x1"? And with which problems do you have to deal (software warnings, malfunctions...)?
Can you still get official Samsung updates via Kies or over unofficial channels?
Are there any known hardware or software malfunctions because of the broken eFuse?
Are there any other known problems/downsides?
@ all_experienced_owners: would you still recommend rooting a Knox device or breaking the eFuse?
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If you flash stock ROM (XXUBML1 for example) via Odin, the System Status will turn back to Official but of course the Knox flag remains 0x1.
Kies will also recognize your phone.
I don't know whether Kies/OTA updates will work, I never used/saw them.
If you don't care about warranty I recommend rooting
ladislav.heller said:
If you flash stock ROM (XXUBML1 for example) via Odin, the System Status will turn back to Official but of course the Knox flag remains 0x1.
Kies will also recognize your phone.
I don't know whether Kies/OTA updates will work, I never used/saw them.
If you don't care about warranty I recommend rooting
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According to other posts OTA updates won't work anymore, unfortunately. Does anyone else know if updates via Kies/ USB cable will still work?
Have there been any Knox warnings when going back to stock again? It always says to disable all Knox apps once you have rooted your phone but back on un-rooted stock this is not possible, I guess?! So I think you will get these warnings again, don't you?
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Honky-Tonk said:
According to other posts OTA updates won't work anymore, unfortunately. Does anyone else know if updates via Kies/ USB cable will still work?
Have there been any Knox warnings when going back to stock again? It always says to disable all Knox apps once you have rooted your phone but back on un-rooted stock this is not possible, I guess?! So I think you will get these warnings again, don't you?
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Updates via Kies/ USB cable will still work.
Going back to stock is posible whitout extra knox warnings. Knox will behave as before.
iPAQS4 said:
Updates via Kies/ USB cable will still work.
Going back to stock is posible whitout extra knox warnings. Knox will behave as before.
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Sounds great, so you can always go back to original phone status (except your Bootloader and the OTA updates)? Just to make sure: you tripped Knox warranty void to 0x1, right?
What about rooted status (stock rom), did you notice any malfunctions with any apps, especially the s-apps?
Which rooting method did you use?
Thx
Honky-Tonk said:
I think it's already clear that you can loose your warranty if you got a 0x1 flag. But I'd rather like to get a list of all the irreversivble consequences with your device itself when rooting etc:
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Not if you're in the EU. Under legislation, companies aren't allowed to void a warranty because of a software change etc (eg if a piece of hardware fails, they can't turn around and say you rooted your phone so you're not covered).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998801
You can use this method to root with out trip the Knox flag: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
I've tried it on mine i9190 without any issue.
Honky-Tonk said:
Sounds great, so you can always go back to original phone status (except your Bootloader and the OTA updates)? Just to make sure: you tripped Knox warranty void to 0x1, right?
What about rooted status (stock rom), did you notice any malfunctions with any apps, especially the s-apps?
Which rooting method did you use?
Thx
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When you go back to original phone status OTA updates will olso work and there are no malfunctions with any apps.
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When you go back to original phone status OTA updates will olso work and there are no malfunctions with any apps.
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really ??
i updated once via kies to the latest firmware and my gt-i9195 was useless, could not turn on wifi and it was lagging a lot and etc...
so i needed to flash it back to my previus firmware version...
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really ??
i updated once via kies to the latest firmware and my gt-i9195 was useless, could not turn on wifi and it was lagging a lot and etc...
so i needed to flash it back to my previus firmware version...
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I unrooted my phone by flashing it with the original firmware with odin and than wipe data/ factory reset in recovery mode.
After that my phone had a ota from MJ7 to ML4.
If you recently bought the phone, I don't recommend rooting (although I rooted the phone the same day I bought it) If you really don't care about the warranty and the OTA updates, root your phone. I literally can do nothing without root.
As we heard today, our S4 Mini will update to 4.4.2 so I don't recommend rooting until it is out so you cqn get the OTA update.
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Not if you're in the EU. Under legislation, companies aren't allowed to void a warranty because of a software change etc (eg if a piece of hardware fails, they can't turn around and say you rooted your phone so you're not covered).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998801
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Good to know, thank's a lot
Sky91 said:
Not if you're in the EU. Under legislation, companies aren't allowed to void a warranty because of a software change etc (eg if a piece of hardware fails, they can't turn around and say you rooted your phone so you're not covered).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998801
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Thx, yes that makes sense. I've also read a few articles about the warranty facts and always wondered why sellers can refuse warranty just because of the "wrong" software. I mean I never heard of anything like that with personal computers, notebooks etc. Would be very interesting, though if a mainboard manufacturer doesn't give warranty and claims that Windows, OSX, Linux etc destroyed it because you used it as an Admin . So actually I think, this regulation should apply world wide not only in the EU.
But we should keep in mind that warranty is not the same as guaranty which is probably really gone with a void 0x1 flag?! However it's great (at least for European people) to have a last hope in mind!
But the reason I wanted to list all downsides is to make sure that you can also root Knox system without any hesitation - to keep the fun for rooting so to say
iPAQS4 said:
I unrooted my phone by flashing it with the original firmware with odin and than wipe data/ factory reset in recovery mode.
After that my phone had a ota from MJ7 to ML4.
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I just found this article about all myths & truths about Knox http://androidforums.com/boost-mobi...t/807188-guide-q-myths-truths-about-knox.html
It's very informative but I'm now confused again because the Article says that you can't use Knox apps anymore, once you tripped the flag:
"[...]If the KNOX warranty void line says 0x1 then you cannot use KNOX software as your device has been flagged as insecure.[...]"
Does this only concern additional Knox Apps not the default ones which produce the warning messages? Or are the Knox Apps just no installed anymore when going back on a 0x1 device or kind of deactivated by default? Could you check that?
RoyaLKurTx3 said:
If you recently bought the phone, I don't recommend rooting (although I rooted the phone the same day I bought it) If you really don't care about the warranty and the OTA updates, root your phone. I literally can do nothing without root.
As we heard today, our S4 Mini will update to 4.4.2 so I don't recommend rooting until it is out so you cqn get the OTA update.
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Thx, I personally don't care about warranty. So this was really rather meant to only treat the functional downsides if there are any at all. I wanted to make sure to not have a trash phone with lots of battery drain or even worse: some irreversible hardware malfunctions after rooting. I'm also looking forward to KitKat but I doubt that the update will remove Knox again since even the army is already working together with Samsung now!
But according to iPAQS4 you can't do so much wrong with rooting (regarding the Knox environment of course)?!
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Thx, yes that makes sense. I've also read a few articles about the warranty facts and always wondered why sellers can refuse warranty just because of the "wrong" software. I mean I never heard of anything like that with personal computers, notebooks etc. Would be very interesting, though if a mainboard manufacturer doesn't give warranty and claims that Windows, OSX, Linux etc destroyed it because you used it as an Admin . So actually I think, this regulation should apply world wide not only in the EU.
But we should keep in mind that warranty is not the same as guaranty which is probably really gone with a void 0x1 flag?! However it's great (at least for European people) to have a last hope in mind!
But the reason I wanted to list all downsides is to make sure that you can also root Knox system without any hesitation - to keep the fun for rooting so to say
I just found this article about all myths & truths about Knox http://androidforums.com/boost-mobi...t/807188-guide-q-myths-truths-about-knox.html
It's very informative but I'm now confused again because the Article says that you can't use Knox apps anymore, once you tripped the flag:
"[...]If the KNOX warranty void line says 0x1 then you cannot use KNOX software as your device has been flagged as insecure.[...]"
Does this only concern additional Knox Apps not the default ones which produce the warning messages? Or are the Knox Apps just no installed anymore when going back on a 0x1 device or kind of deactivated by default? Could you check that?
Thx, I personally don't care about warranty. So this was really rather meant to only treat the functional downsides if there are any at all. I wanted to make sure to not have a trash phone with lots of battery drain or even worse: some irreversible hardware malfunctions after rooting. I'm also looking forward to KitKat but I doubt that the update will remove Knox again since even the army is already working together with Samsung now!
But according to iPAQS4 you can't do so much wrong with rooting (regarding the Knox environment of course)?!
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I will flash a new ROM and I'll see if the KNOX stays like it was. But I'll do that later today or tomorrow.
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Honky-Tonk said:
I just found this article about all myths & truths about Knox
It's very informative but I'm now confused again because the Article says that you can't use Knox apps anymore, once you tripped the flag:
"[...]If the KNOX warranty void line says 0x1 then you cannot use KNOX software as your device has been flagged as insecure.[...]"
Does this only concern additional Knox Apps not the default ones which produce the warning messages? Or are the Knox Apps just no installed anymore when going back on a 0x1 device or kind of deactivated by default? Could you check that?
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According myths & truths about Knox
If the KNOX warranty void line says 0x1 then you cannot use KNOX software as your device has been flagged as insecure. By this I mean that if your workplace / company supports bring your own device to work for corporate emails etc and they use KNOX to keep security your device will not allow this. You are still able to use future Samsung firmware releases with the KNOX flag 0x1.
Confirmed. If you flash a new ROM TWICE, your KNOX counter will get 0x0. It will look like it is new.
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RoyaLKurTx3 said:
Confirmed. If you flash a new ROM TWICE, your KNOX counter will get 0x0. It will look like it is new.
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Is your phone knox previously tripped 0x1 and when you flash new rom twice become 0x0 ? thanks
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Is your phone knox previously tripped 0x1 and when you flash new rom twice become 0x0 ? thanks
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Yep.
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Yep.
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wiered it needs more researching .. mate knox flag is nearly impossible to reset and you are sayin flashing a stock rom twice fixes it !!
Is still CFAutoRoot still the only way to root our devices? Note 3 and S5 could root with TowelRoot and not void their warranty, we still cant Are any of the devs working on a workaround for this?
tomashaker4e said:
Is still CFAutoRoot still the only way to root our devices? Note 3 and S5 could root with TowelRoot and not void their warranty, we still cant Are any of the devs working on a workaround for this?
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Currently CFAutoRoot is the only way to root your Note 4 at the moment, so this means you will lose your warranty if you rooted your Note 4. However many people are saying that tripping KNOX doesn't mean Samsung will not fix your phone if you have a hardware issue unless they can proof that the hardware issue is caused by the software you installed or rooting it.
I think developers are currently working on it, but I guess you just need to be patient. Hope I solved your question.
There is no workaround for knox.
Knox is a physical fuse (that meets DoD security standards), if you tamper with the secure knox box or root your device the fuse blows.
Therefore, by rooting your device you have physically damaged your phone and your warranty is void.
Here in the UK, we are under the false impression that by rooting we have not physically damaged the device, but in fact we have. Thus, if Samsung so chooses not to repair devices under warranty, we have no recourse.
Sent from my SM-N910F
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There is no workaround for knox.
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Most important information missing: "at present"
Knox is a physical fuse (that meets DoD security standards), if you tamper with the secure knox box or root your device the fuse blows.
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Most important information missing: "at present"
In the past, there were countless workarounds for achieving boot without tripping Knox.
Therefore, by rooting your device you have physically damaged your phone and your warranty is void.
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You didn't do any physical change. Samsung did, nobody else.
I guess we need to be patient; developers will concentrate on Lollipop - doesn't make much sense breaking your brains for rooting a firmware which will be more or less obsolete in a just few days.
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I guess we need to be patient; developers will concentrate on Lollipop - doesn't make much sense breaking your brains for rooting a firmware which will be more or less obsolete in a just few days.
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I guess you are right, i mean i thought that Lollipop would be out like a month ago, probably devs too, but i hope they start working on a workaround as soon lollipop is out, and that should be any day now, even official lollipop user manual is up on samsungs web
Galaxy note 4 sm n910g without tripping knox Counter?
Hello sir , is there any way to root Galaxy note 4 sm n910g without tripping knox Counter? i heard with towel root it's possible but sadly note 4 is not compatible with that :crying: can you help me with any other idea or way to root it? 2.question > is that truth if knox counter void the warranty still they will fix the hardware issue? i mean of course they will not fix the software issuse...but hardware yes? I am in INDIA
Hi
Is there way to root S7 Edge with out loosing warranty? I tried to google it but didnt find any methods that are safe. By safe I mean something that does not remove warranty.
Currently there is no guaranteed way to root without losing warranty. There maybe a work around by doing systemless root but that is still in the beta stage and may not be perfected for a while.
There are countless threads regarding this issue. There is no way to root the Exynos S7 (Edge) without tripping Knox, thus warranty. Systemless root will NEVER root a Samsung without tripping Knox. Systemless root modifies the kernel to achieve root. This will ALWAYS trigger the Knox counter. Flashing modified image = tripping Knox.
Even flashing a custom recovery kills the warranty unfortunately . Anything without Samsung Signature or with modified code, will break the warranty. And Samsung Signature will be ignored after knox has been set to 0x1, this way Your phone won't reset itself after flashing official rom.
Sort answer: No
Long answer: There is not
Thanks.
I was wondering how tripping warranty works? Does it send something to Samsung servers? I was just wondering if it would be possible to add something in hosts file to prevent it from happening?
Or does anyone know the location of binary that check for signature? In that case one could just modify that binary to accept everything.
The reason I got interested in rooting is that I have some bloatware that I cant uninstall. Forexample some yahoo thing that consumed 12 MB of datatransfer. There is no way to take away it's permission, and there is no uninstall option and when I try to remove it with adb shell (using rm command in /system/app for that) it says file system is readonly.
sysctl said:
Thanks.
I was wondering how tripping warranty works? Does it send something to Samsung servers? I was just wondering if it would be possible to add something in hosts file to prevent it from happening?
Or does anyone know the location of binary that check for signature? In that case one could just modify that binary to accept everything.
The reason I got interested in rooting is that I have some bloatware that I cant uninstall. Forexample some yahoo thing that consumed 12 MB of datatransfer. There is no way to take away it's permission, and there is no uninstall option and when I try to remove it with adb shell (using rm command in /system/app for that) it says file system is readonly.
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Just disable yahoo, or install package disabler and disable all the bloat from there
xAD3r1ty said:
Just disable yahoo, or install package disabler and disable all the bloat from there
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There is no way to disable it I'll tried some uninstaller app and it did not manage to kill it..
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There is no way to disable it I'll tried some uninstaller app and it did not manage to kill it..
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
Both are working fine, but you can't delete it without root, just disable.
I love how Samsung have become everything I hated about Apple. I own an S7 Edge and I'm half considering selling it for a Xiaomi. I get equal warranty with a Xiaomi, but I can get the phone for like £100.
Seems to be confusion between tripping Knox and warranty here. You can't "trip warranty". In some countries, tripping Knox voids your warranty, but not all. I had my Edge+ fixed twice under warranty, no problem - informed the dealer that I'd removed Knox 30 minutes after purchase, they said it was fine. Same with my son's Note 3.
Unfortunately the only way to be sure is flash a recovery and/or root, bork your phone, and see what happens?
I had few questions raising in my mind:
1) Will ripping warranty also disable software updates?
2) How important is warranty for S7 Edge? Does this phone break easily? My friend told me that Samsung phones will have all kinds of defects and that I am very likely to need warranty, but what about S7 Edge? What's the chances that I need warranty in 2 years given that the phone was brand new when I brought it few months ago?
1) Rooting will break OTA update, so you will have to update software by flashing it manually (which is easy, but still)
2) You can never know. Had a Note 4, thought it would never fail, in the end it did and I needed warranty. That's why I am staying away from it on my S7 edge, too expensive in case of failure. And in my country they're strict with Knox
No way till now.
And in my country they're strict with Knox
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How do I get to know which countries are strict with Knox and which are not? So after rooting I get no updates at all or it only means I wont get automatically android 7 when Samsung decides to release it?
Isn't there way that I write something smart in hosts file and then Samsung wont get notified?
Ajshal said:
No way till now.
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Elaborate ?
sysctl said:
How do I get to know which countries are strict with Knox and which are not?
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By hearing experiences from users around the globe. There's no list or something
sysctl said:
So after rooting I get no updates at all or it only means I wont get automatically android 7 when Samsung decides to release it
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You don't get any OTA updates any more
sysctl said:
Isn't there way that I write something smart in hosts file and then Samsung wont get notified?
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Unnecessary, Samsung doesn't get notified online or over the Internet from your device
sysctl said:
How do I get to know which countries are strict with Knox and which are not? So after rooting I get no updates at all or it only means I wont get automatically android 7 when Samsung decides to release it?
Isn't there way that I write something smart in hosts file and then Samsung wont get notified?
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From my experience and hearing from users around the world, central and southern Europe seem to be very strict regarding warranty and tripped Knox. Some countries in eastern Europe, northern Europe are less strict about it.
The Arab peninsula doesn't seem to care at all about Knox and warranty. Don't know much about African countries. Heard users saying they do and don't care about a tripped Knox. Never heard about issues from the United States about warranty and tripped Knox.
Feel free to correct me.
1) Does it only mean no updates for samsung software or no update at all? I mean would it also breaks updates for lets say firefox or vlc or termux (which are not shipped by samsung)?
What do you mean by "flashing it manually" Like manually reinsali firefox when I want newer version of it? Or that I only have to flash manually when I want to update OS?
nitrous² said:
There are countless threads regarding this issue. There is no way to root the Exynos S7 (Edge) without tripping Knox, thus warranty. Systemless root will NEVER root a Samsung without tripping Knox. Systemless root modifies the kernel to achieve root. This will ALWAYS trigger the Knox counter. Flashing modified image = tripping Knox.
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What are side effects of tripping knox besides loosing warranty? Will i loose any features?
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EarthMonster said:
Just the title
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rooting a Samsung phone almost always ‘trips Knox’
(permanently blows an e-fuse) and voids the warranty
dezborders said:
rooting a Samsung phone almost always ‘trips Knox’
(permanently blows an e-fuse) and voids the warranty
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Even using magisk + custom recovery? I've heard things like Netflix don't usually work with root but this way it does.
U cant have your cake and eat it too.
Knox being broken shouldn't void warranty under EU consumer laws. But you best do your due diligence and not just take my word for it.
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The answer is no. At least nothing publicly available.
Theres plenty of USA s10+ owners who would be all over if it was possible since we cant even unlock the BL which means stuck waiting around for alternate root methods
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rooting a Samsung phone almost always ‘trips Knox’
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This is not true. It depends on "how" you root. Finding a way to root without unlocking the BL and using custom boot/recovery usually does not trip Knox. Of course these methods are becoming more and more rare. For example I rooted s8/s8+ USA variants back when they launched which was using a few vulns, certain signed samsung firmware and system root and Knox was fine. They also can root USA Note 8 devices using other means without tripping Knox. I also rooted USA N9 on combo firmware without tripping knox/warranty bit.
Heck even unlocking bootloader sometimes doesnt trip Knox until you actually flash custom firmware. Typically if you use Magisk root or TWRP on an unlocked bootloader then you definitely will trip Knox. Point is that it's possible to root without tripping knox as it has been done many times over the years. Nowadays though most people just buy unlockable variants so it's really all anyone sees or knows about most the time.
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Even using magisk + custom recovery? I've heard things like Netflix don't usually work with root but this way it does.
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Lol
Seeing as how magisk patched firmware and TWRP specifically require an unlocked BL which is exactly what trips knox your answer is no. That will 100% trip your knox flag.
As far as Netflix (and many other companies) they are always trying to be as secure as possible. Theres many who find ways to get around those types of issues. It's just a cat n mouse game sometimes i.e devs get it working then Netflix breaks it again then users find a way to get around it etc etc
elliwigy said:
This is not true. It depends on "how" you root. Finding a way to root without unlocking the BL and using custom boot/recovery usually does not trip Knox. Of course these methods are becoming more and more rare. For example I rooted s8/s8+ USA variants back when they launched which was using a few vulns, certain signed samsung firmware and system root and Knox was fine. They also can root USA Note 8 devices using other means without tripping Knox. I also rooted USA N9 on combo firmware without tripping knox/warranty bit.
Heck even unlocking bootloader sometimes doesnt trip Knox until you actually flash custom firmware. Typically if you use Magisk root or TWRP on an unlocked bootloader then you definitely will trip Knox. Point is that it's possible to root without tripping knox as it has been done many times over the years. Nowadays though most people just buy unlockable variants so it's really all anyone sees or knows about most the time.
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What you say is true anything is “possible”
However as the OP is on the O2 network he has an Exynos chipset.
Is it currently possible to root an Exynos S10+ without tripping Knox ?
I stopped rooting about 5 years ago so don’t know of a way right now
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What you say is true anything is “possible”
However as the OP is on the O2 network he has an Exynos chipset.
Is it currently possible to root an Exynos S10+ without tripping Knox ?
I stopped rooting about 5 years ago so don’t know of a way right now
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ive never owned one.. i imagine most just unlock bl.. but from wat my sources tell me there is easy root on exynos without tripping knox.. I am not able to provide details tho as they are private methods.. they use it for business and such apparently so take it with a grain of salt lol
exynos are notoriously known to b a lot easier to root than SD variants
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