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If I have knox bootloader can I:-
1) Root my device?
2) Flash different modem?
3) Flash any CM or AOSP ROM?
4) Flash any custom recovery?
I want these things to be clear for me.
Thanks.
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Yes to all. Except 3 some ppl have trouble flashing different modems.
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yeah there area ways to still do that stuff but it'll flag it, so that voids your warranty
SayWhat10 said:
yeah there area ways to still do that stuff but it'll flag it, so that voids your warranty
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I don't care about warranty.
I care about my freedom to choose modems and roms and edit my system as I want.
But I see Google android and Samsung in their way to loose more users by their new jails.
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yea
supposedly knox was for making the Galaxy an enterprise level security phone. so WTF is the warranty flag all about? right?
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anees02 said:
I don't care about warranty.
I care about my freedom to choose modems and roms and edit my system as I want.
But I see Google android and Samsung in their way to loose more users by their new jails.
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supposedly knox was for making the Galaxy an enterprise level security phone. so WTF is the warranty flag all about? right?
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Well, the knox warranty flag has nothing to do with the phone's warranty. It's purpose is to signal to the knox container that the phone has been tampered with and is no longer able to provide the required security to the phone. Now, since there is no way to reset it like we could 0 out the flash counter with triangle away, it can also allow Samsung to see that your rooted or tampered with your phone so they can deny you warranty service. I haven't seen one post from someone that has been denied warranty service after tripping the knox warranty flag, we just all assume this will be the case since rooting your phone violates your warranty.
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Well, the knox warranty flag has nothing to do with the phone's warranty. It's purpose is to signal to the knox container that the phone has been tampered with and is no longer able to provide the required security to the phone. Now, since there is no way to reset it like we could 0 out the flash counter with triangle away, it can also allow Samsung to see that your rooted or tampered with your phone so they can deny you warranty service. I haven't seen one post from someone that has been denied warranty service after tripping the knox warranty flag, we just all assume this will be the case since rooting your phone violates your warranty.
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Eh.... Doesn't your first sentence contradict everything else you said?
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Eh.... Doesn't your first sentence contradict everything else you said?
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No, the Knox warranty flag has nothing to do with the phone's warranty only knox's warranty. The later statements were just the way it is. Samsung has never said your phone's warranty is invalid if the Knox warranty flag is tripped. But, if you read their warranty, it does say if you tampered with your phone than your warranty may be void. So, yes, you can infer that a tripped Knox warranty flag also means your warranty is void.
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cant wait till someone figures out how to reset Knox..then this will get interesting!!!
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No, the Knox warranty flag has nothing to do with the phone's warranty only knox's warranty. The later statements were just the way it is. Samsung has never said your phone's warranty is invalid if the Knox warranty flag is tripped. But, if you read their warranty, it does say if you tampered with your phone than your warranty may be void. So, yes, you can infer that a tripped Knox warranty flag also means your warranty is void.
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Hi All,
I have been a samsung user for a long time and use to flash f*** it all the time and root the phone.
I need root to remove all unused bloatwate.
Since there is no way knox warranty bit can be reset upon root, i was wondering whether note 4 can be rooted without tripping the knox warranty.
Also, will the warranty be void if the knox bit is tripped? Cant we get it serviced even for a hardware issue? Although i have never faced any hardware issues within an year.
Thanks in advance.
Hi lycan_codex, based from what I've read the knox bit is hardware connected so once tripped it can't be reversed unless you replace the chip itself.
I would have also wanted to root my new Note 4 but it carries with it a 2 year warranty.
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u want to delete bloatware you have to be rooted or wait for a rom that does not have the bloat. Yes root will be needed. If your phone malfunctions and you tripped KNOX you can still get it repaired just make sure you unroot flash a stock firmware before getting it repaired. Or you can hope someone makes a no KNOX trip which last I heard Towelroot did not last to long
Thankfully with canadian phones you can disable 90% of the apps :laugh:
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If yo
u want to delete bloatware you have to be rooted or wait for a rom that does not have the bloat. Yes root will be needed. If your phone malfunctions and you tripped KNOX you can still get it repaired just make sure you unroot flash a stock firmware before getting it repaired. Or you can hope someone makes a no KNOX trip which last I heard Towelroot did not last to long
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since about 90% of bloat can be desactived....personally I"m gonna wait to see if there's a root without tripping knox who could go out soon....on the note 3 guy where able to root without tripping knox...so
To puss or not puss.... just root it.
Have been rooting every Samsung from galaxy s1 to s4 then note 3 to note 4. Cannot live without a rooted phone. From restoring my apps data with titanium, navbar customisations, root just makes it so much easier to use the handset. Have never ran into any problems like phone breaking down due to root so for me root is essential.
Seems you plan to do serious damage with your rooted phone that you need to keep knox intact but you say you've been flashing awhile so what are you really afraid of
I've been also rooting my samsung phone since s2, s3 and s4 but its been only in s4 where i had problem with the knox bit. Now I'm not sure if i still want to root my note 4 since its already butter smooth. Unlike my s3 and s4
I was a bit afraid of rooting the phone and the samsung service center guys refusing to service the phone as the knox warranty is tripped.
Anyways, F*** it, i just rooted my phone. Thanks for your inputs anyways.
samsung service center returned my note3 once they found out it had been rooted and tripped knox so i smashed the screen on and claimed on my house insurance :angel:
Im going to wait a bit longer before i root , its a bit early yet for custom roms
lycan_codex said:
I was a bit afraid of rooting the phone and the samsung service center guys refusing to service the phone as the knox warranty is tripped.
Anyways, F*** it, i just rooted my phone. Thanks for your inputs anyways.
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Congrats and relax!
I recommend getting 'abp' ad block since you're now rooted. It will block all anoying ads from aps and browsers. Also the blocked ads make chrome run even faster. SDMAID is a must also.
No risk No Reward [emoji3]
The manual states if you change anything eg root there is no warranty.
ant78 said:
samsung service center returned my note3 once they found out it had been rooted and tripped knox so i smashed the screen on and claimed on my house insurance :angel:
Im going to wait a bit longer before i root , its a bit early yet for custom roms
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LOL I had to do that first but you should have returned to stock firmware before taking it in but it seems you turned lemons into lemonade. Depending on your carrier roms will be up in no time
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lycan_codex said:
I was a bit afraid of rooting the phone and the samsung service center guys refusing to service the phone as the knox warranty is tripped.
Anyways, F*** it, i just rooted my phone. Thanks for your inputs anyways.
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Welcome to the darkside I m sure you ll enjoy your phone now that your bloatware is gone.
And roms are becoming available at a fast pace now
I'm planning on upgrading, but I was told the Note 4 *isn't* rootable or flashable, only the dev version is? (Verizon version)
I always root my phone since i joined xda with Galaxy S1, S3, Note 2, and now Note 4. But now on 5.1.1 Note 4, I'm satisfied with the phone's performance without root. Rooting my Note 4 on 5.1.1 breaks the Screen Mirroring functionality. I'm always using Screen Mirroring to my Samsung TV. At present I can't be satisfied without it.
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GrippingSphere said:
I always root my phone since i joined xda with Galaxy S1, S3, Note 2, and now Note 4. But now on 5.1.1 Note 4, I'm satisfied with the phone's performance without root. Rooting my Note 4 on 5.1.1 breaks the Screen Mirroring functionality. I'm always using Screen Mirroring to my Samsung TV. At present I can't be satisfied without it.
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Have you tried adding wlan.wfd.hdcp=disable to your build.prop? It should get Screen Mirroring working with root.
lycan_codex said:
I was a bit afraid of rooting the phone and the samsung service center guys refusing to service the phone as the knox warranty is tripped.
Anyways, F*** it, i just rooted my phone. Thanks for your inputs anyways.
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Can you tell me how you rooted it? What firmware version are you running?
Thanks
definitely root it if you don't care for your warranty, i rooted my F 5.1.1, with stock rootable kernel, and i didnt even disable everything i can, and i'm getting literally 2 days of batery, with 4h screen on time, i know it's not much, but my not rooted one lasted only 2-2:30.. Cheerz
1. Is the Note 4 still rootable if it's on the latest Lollipop?
2. What if it's a Tmobile phone?
3. What if it's a Verizon phone?
Hello everyone. I bought a Galaxy S5 SM-G900F 3 Months ago,and till then I kept it stock. I am undecided if to root/cwm and start modding it,or keep it stock till Android 5.0 From Samsung. The thing that stops me from doing that is the damned warranty that decays with Knox -.-" Till now the phone hasn't got any problems,nor I had to contact the customer care for issues. My question is,would it be worth to trip knox for modding it? And if the phone has any issue,can I avail myself of the European law on Android Phones? Sorry If this may be noob questions,but I'd really want to start mod my S5,and the only thing which stops me is Knox..
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Hello everyone. I bought a Galaxy S5 SM-G900F 3 Months ago,and till then I kept it stock. I am undecided if to root/cwm and start modding it,or keep it stock till Android 5.0 From Samsung. The thing that stops me from doing that is the damned warranty that decays with Knox -.-" Till now the phone hasn't got any problems,nor I had to contact the customer care for issues. My question is,would it be worth to trip knox for modding it? And if the phone has any issue,can I avail myself of the European law on Android Phones? Sorry If this may be noob questions,but I'd really want to start mod my S5,and the only thing which stops me is Knox..
Check this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54719865
Then if you need more info on options try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51949790
As for its it worth it to trip Knox, if you can avoid it great, it's your choice in the end but to me... I will never own a stock phone as long as XDA exists.. Just my opinion.
SM-G900W8, 0x1
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I knew of this,but it's only for root. I would install TWRP or CWM, and the CM12 Alpha..so knox gets tripped anyway no?
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Wolf80 said:
I knew of this,but it's only for root. I would install TWRP or CWM, and the CM12 Alpha..so knox gets tripped anyway no?
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Yes, as soon as you install recovery, you trip Knox.
I don't think you can install CM12 without a recovery so yup, a choice has to be made.
I also have insurance on my phone so I think it is worth the risk for the enjoyment I get from fooling it.
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ragz said:
Yes, as soon as you install recovery, you trip Knox.
I don't think you can install CM12 without a recovery so yup, a choice has to be made.
I also have insurance on my phone so I think it is worth the risk for the enjoyment I get from fooling it.
SM-G900W8, 0x1
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You think that it Will be worth to trip knox? I came from an S3 which was full modded lol
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Wolf80 said:
You think that it Will be worth to trip knox? I came from an S3 which was full modded lol
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I tripped mine 3 hours after I bought it, this is my 4th phone and all have been modded so I guess my opinion is obvious.
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Wolf80 said:
You think that it Will be worth to trip knox? I came from an S3 which was full modded lol
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It is worth it, I tripped my know the same day of purchase, to me warranty isn't an issue.
ila420 said:
It is worth it, I tripped my know the same day of purchase, to me warranty isn't an issue.
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Well,I kept mine stock with knox unaltered cause the first months there could be problems. I am 4th month now and no problems still....what will I lose apart the warranty? I read that fingerprinter scanner could not work anymore,right?
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Well,I kept mine stock with knox unaltered cause the first months there could be problems. I am 4th month now and no problems still....what will I lose apart the warranty? I read that fingerprinter scanner could not work anymore,right?
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Fingerprint scanner still works on tw roms after knox 0x1.
Edit: just enabled Fingerprint scanner and it is working perfect.
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Just an FYI, no fingerprint scanner, and no heartbeat sensor, and no tw camera on any aosp or cm based ROM. If you'll miss those don't even bother tripping Knox.
No one reads, searches anymore.
This klte forums are like a kindergarten. Nobody knows nothing and want stuff handed to them.
Is still CFAutoRoot still the only way to root our devices? Note 3 and S5 could root with TowelRoot and not void their warranty, we still cant Are any of the devs working on a workaround for this?
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Is still CFAutoRoot still the only way to root our devices? Note 3 and S5 could root with TowelRoot and not void their warranty, we still cant Are any of the devs working on a workaround for this?
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Currently CFAutoRoot is the only way to root your Note 4 at the moment, so this means you will lose your warranty if you rooted your Note 4. However many people are saying that tripping KNOX doesn't mean Samsung will not fix your phone if you have a hardware issue unless they can proof that the hardware issue is caused by the software you installed or rooting it.
I think developers are currently working on it, but I guess you just need to be patient. Hope I solved your question.
There is no workaround for knox.
Knox is a physical fuse (that meets DoD security standards), if you tamper with the secure knox box or root your device the fuse blows.
Therefore, by rooting your device you have physically damaged your phone and your warranty is void.
Here in the UK, we are under the false impression that by rooting we have not physically damaged the device, but in fact we have. Thus, if Samsung so chooses not to repair devices under warranty, we have no recourse.
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There is no workaround for knox.
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Most important information missing: "at present"
Knox is a physical fuse (that meets DoD security standards), if you tamper with the secure knox box or root your device the fuse blows.
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Most important information missing: "at present"
In the past, there were countless workarounds for achieving boot without tripping Knox.
Therefore, by rooting your device you have physically damaged your phone and your warranty is void.
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You didn't do any physical change. Samsung did, nobody else.
I guess we need to be patient; developers will concentrate on Lollipop - doesn't make much sense breaking your brains for rooting a firmware which will be more or less obsolete in a just few days.
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I guess we need to be patient; developers will concentrate on Lollipop - doesn't make much sense breaking your brains for rooting a firmware which will be more or less obsolete in a just few days.
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I guess you are right, i mean i thought that Lollipop would be out like a month ago, probably devs too, but i hope they start working on a workaround as soon lollipop is out, and that should be any day now, even official lollipop user manual is up on samsungs web
Galaxy note 4 sm n910g without tripping knox Counter?
Hello sir , is there any way to root Galaxy note 4 sm n910g without tripping knox Counter? i heard with towel root it's possible but sadly note 4 is not compatible with that :crying: can you help me with any other idea or way to root it? 2.question > is that truth if knox counter void the warranty still they will fix the hardware issue? i mean of course they will not fix the software issuse...but hardware yes? I am in INDIA
Anyway to root G935FD(Exynos) without tripping knox?
Cant wait to root my phone , but still worry about the screen replacement in the future
Do you guys have any idea?
No probably wont ever happen.
mindstorms54 said:
Anyway to root G935FD(Exynos) without tripping knox?
Cant wait to root my phone , but still worry about the screen replacement in the future
Do you guys have any idea?
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Root without tripping knox is possible if a Engineering Bootloader surfaces.
But I'm not sure whether even it can retain the 0x0 for a longer time.
No the system scans for any abnormalities in the system and if it senses any changes boom knox tripped
It's extremely unlikely we will get root without tripping knox and like @Ausboy 2011 said, the system will trip knox if it detects any system modifications. Something as simnple as installing a root app could trip knox in this case.
They released an engineering bootloader for the galaxy S6 Edge. So it IS possible. We just need to wait for that time to come. With the engineering bootloader you can modify anything on the system without tripping knox. You just need to flash EVERYTHING back to stock at the same time if you chose to remove said bootloader. Also, I know in the beginning phases of use of this engineering bootloader they lost use of their fingerprint reader. So there's always that possibility too. But we'll just have to see if/when that time comes.
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They released an engineering bootloader for the galaxy S6 Edge. So it IS possible. We just need to wait for that time to come. With the engineering bootloader you can modify anything on the system without tripping knox. You just need to flash EVERYTHING back to stock at the same time if you chose to remove said bootloader. Also, I know in the beginning phases of use of this engineering bootloader they lost use of their fingerprint reader. So there's always that possibility too. But we'll just have to see if/when that time comes.
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Looking forward to the day
Is Samsung pay rendered useless if you root then?
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Is Samsung pay rendered useless if you root then?
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If you trip knox then yes.
peachpuff said:
If you trip knox then yes.
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And you can't "untrip" knox by going back to stock I assume?
Yes
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thing is we have the engineer bootloader for the s7 edge already. just noone has it working yet
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Anyway to root G935FD(Exynos) without tripping knox?
Cant wait to root my phone , but still worry about the screen replacement in the future
Do you guys have any idea?
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what happens if knox is tripped? Can't i use mobile payment or anything?
tazoman said:
what happens if knox is tripped? Can't i use mobile payment or anything?
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No,if Knox is tripped Samsung Pay will not work
tazoman said:
what happens if knox is tripped? Can't i use mobile payment or anything?
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Btw
Your warranty will be void
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Your warranty will be void
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This actually varies depending on your location. For instance, in Europe, tripping knox will NOT void warranty. It is against EU law to refuse a hardware repair just because the software has been modified.
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This actually varies depending on your location. For instance, in Europe, tripping knox will NOT void warranty. It is against EU law to refuse a hardware repair just because the software has been modified.
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That's true, but most places don't care, as they just send it to Samsung and they deny warranty repair because of tripped knox. You can of course get the repair if you take the fight up.. But really, who want to? I sued the place where I bought my S6, because they would not repair a KNOWN HARDWARE failure on the S6 (pink dots on front camera) after I had rooted my phone. They sent it to Samsung and they denied. By law they should pay the repair then.
I was told I was right by Danish Customer Service, but they needed my phone for like 7-8 months and I did not have my S7 Edge there, so I would be without a phone, so I called it.. For really, what could I win? I knew I would upgrade when the S7 came out anyway.
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That's true, but most places don't care, as they just send it to Samsung and they deny warranty repair because of tripped knox. You can of course get the repair if you take the fight up.. But really, who want to? I sued the place where I bought my S6, because they would not repair a KNOWN HARDWARE failure on the S6 (pink dots on front camera) after I had rooted my phone. They sent it to Samsung and they denied. By law they should pay the repair then.
I was told I was right by Danish Customer Service, but they needed my phone for like 7-8 months and I did not have my S7 Edge there, so I would be without a phone, so I called it.. For really, what could I win? I knew I would upgrade when the S7 came out anyway.
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Here in the UK, Samsung will repair even if Knox is tripped. I have had a few repairs over the years and have always had tripped Knox. Some other UK users on here have confirmed the same.
Well that's nice. Sure they're are aware Knox was tripped? Because I was an idiot back then, I sent my phone in with a custom ROM, så they could not enter the binary, which was the reason they saw Knox was tripped.. When I said I would flash stock firmware, they said that was not possible without replacing something inside (the motherboard I think).
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Well that's nice. Sure they're are aware Knox was tripped? Because I was an idiot back then, I sent my phone in with a custom ROM, så they could not enter the binary, which was the reason they saw Knox was tripped.. When I said I would flash stock firmware, they said that was not possible without replacing something inside (the motherboard I think).
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A Samsung rep in one of the repair stores told me that it doesn't matter if it has a tripped Knox as long as we put the stock firmware on the phone and it is NOT rooted. If it's rooted they will refuse.
However, I have known people to get the repair even when rooted.
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