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[Q] How to Unroot Note 3 SM-N900?

Hello,
1) How do I unroot my Note 3 SM-N900 model.
2) I know my warranty is void as I rooted the phone, but was just wondering if theres any way I could unroot and reset knox counter as well. I highly doubt this is possible but just wanted to confirm.
Thanks..

roni2915 said:
Hello,
1) How do I unroot my Note 3 SM-N900 model.
2) I know my warranty is void as I rooted the phone, but was just wondering if theres any way I could unroot and reset knox counter as well. I highly doubt this is possible but just wanted to confirm.
Thanks..
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1) There's an option on supersu for unroot, I've never tried it but if it doesn't work you could always flash a stock rom with odin.
2) There isn't yet. It's doubtful that there'll be a method to fix it but we can't know for sure. (In Chainfire we trust )

muhtesem insan said:
1) There's an option on supersu for unroot, I've never tried it but if it doesn't work you could always flash a stock rom with odin.
2) There isn't yet. It's doubtful that there'll be a method to fix it but we can't know for sure. (In Chainfire we trust )
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Chainfire mentioned himself that knox counter issue is hard to solve as it's integrated in android system as layer and there might not be a chance in future that knox issue can be solved. But still I had to root my device cause what's the use of an android device anyway if there's no freedom to root??? I think device manufacturers themselves should rather put an option at first boot to allow us to root our devices at first place instead of making things harder!!!
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Too many cases of idiots rooting these days. They grab one of those toolkits and use it to root without really bothering to take the time to understand what they are actually doing or what the risks are. Next thing they bricked it and they send it back to claim warranty. Either that or they succeed and do something dumb like over clocking until it starts smoking then claim warranty.
Of course there are plenty of competent modders out there too but there must be enough abortions going on that Samsung need to do something about it. They aren't actually stopping us from rooting mind, they are only safeguarding against fraudulent claims on warranty after it goes wrong.
Sent from my SM-N9005

muhtesem insan said:
1) There's an option on supersu for unroot, I've never tried it but if it doesn't work you could always flash a stock rom with odin.
2) There isn't yet. It's doubtful that there'll be a method to fix it but we can't know for sure. (In Chainfire we trust )
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Can anyone confirm if option 1 is working?
Also, can I modify SM-N900 to work on AWS network (Wind Mobile/Mobilicity). I am thinking of selling this phone and getting the snapdragon version. and I have a buyer who wants to work the phone on wind.

dr.m0x said:
Too many cases of idiots rooting these days. They grab one of those toolkits and use it to root without really bothering to take the time to understand what they are actually doing or what the risks are. Next thing they bricked it and they send it back to claim warranty. Either that or they succeed and do something dumb like over clocking until it starts smoking then claim warranty.
Of course there are plenty of competent modders out there too but there must be enough abortions going on that Samsung need to do something about it. They aren't actually stopping us from rooting mind, they are only safeguarding against fraudulent claims on warranty after it goes wrong.
Sent from my SM-N9005
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I'm thinkin you are right. I have a buddy that works for one of the manufactures and they have a whole department dedicated to "returns". And return numbers are much much higher than they want them to be. So anything that will bring those numbers down at all, they will do!

I would also like to know if it is possible to unroot and reset knox on the n900.
As for the warranty goes, I think that if you bring the device back because the usb port or ear phone jack or the home button fails, this should be repaired regardless if you rooted your phone.
Can you overclock your home button? What about the power button and vol up?
Lol.
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does this work
Hello guys , just came across this link while surfing the net, it claims to restore warranty of rooted phone SM N 900. Please look at this. has anyone tried? please post results
http://theunlockr.com/2013/10/13/how-to-unroot-the-samsung-galaxy-note-3/

There are rooting methods without tripping Knox and in those cases removing root will bring phone back to original 100%, so to speak. However once tripped, I'm not aware of any way to undo Knox flag. The method above does not mention anything about Knox and I'm 90% sure it does not remove Knox flag, it just removes the root using Chainfire method.
However, rooted phone shows up as custom right away in about menu and it's easy to see, where Knox flag only shows up in download menu and it's more involved to find, therefore the chances are, unless it is Samsung service, they may not look or even care about Knox flag as long as it doesn't show custom/rooted, especially that Knox is only Samsung thing.
I agree 100% "genius" customers are the reason for all the blocks and lockdowns on our phones. I just read some thread about some Einstein calling customer care asking them for help in rooting the phone, I'm kidding you not and he went on and on how useless the service department is when they tried to explain that they not support custom programing etc.

captainhakan said:
Chainfire mentioned himself that knox counter issue is hard to solve as it's integrated in android system as layer and there might not be a chance in future that knox issue can be solved. But still I had to root my device cause what's the use of an android device anyway if there's no freedom to root??? I think device manufacturers themselves should rather put an option at first boot to allow us to root our devices at first place instead of making things harder!!!
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I agree that manufacturers should allow for root access, however carriers would lose their minds. It (and im basing this on the sweat of others) appears that doing a hotspot that doesn't eat the data allowed by the carrier is super easy once root access is granted. But to the point, I agree that ROOT should be given as an option OTB.
CHEERS!

UNROOT GALAXY Note 3 (SM N 900)
I bought Samsung Galaxy Note 3 in USA. And the device is an unlocked to use in every operators in North, Central, South America and Caribbean. Actually I bought the phone to use in Sri Lanka, since it was not compatible in Sri Lanka I found a guy who unlock it. To be honest I didn't know that he was going to root my phone until I tried to update my phone. It says " The device has been modified..no updates are available" That guy has rooted the device in superSU.
But I want to unroot my phone to the factory status. And I tried my self to completely unroot in the setting of superSU. And I did it..but there were no any changes in the status of my phone "CUSTOM" And I uninstalled the superUS. When I install it again through Play Store, it says "There is no US binary installed.And Super US by cannot be installed"
So please tell me how to unroot my phone to the original status to update it. Because I tried to find the firmwares, the safest and easiest way of unrooting. But I could not find it as I do not know what's is my Region code and other related details. Can anyone tell me how to do it or can you send any links to download them please ? Attached photograph will show some details of my device details of firmware. If possible inbox me [email protected] or post on this page..Thank you so much.

good job
folks... this works great..... I recommend this...

About rooting galaxy s4

Hello,
I was wondering if the application "kingroot" is a good and trustable option to trust my device?
I also saw a site "oneclickroot.com" that looked intresting but after research I saw it's not trustable that they are out of your money.
Or what would you guys advice me?
It's not for intalling roms and so on. Just for other options that I want to root my device.
Greetings

CF-Auto-Root. It's the only way to go. And you can't without a PC.

ah owkey, and "kingroot" is unsafe then?
Oh and what about unrooting the device is that also possible with cf auto root?

And what about towelroot??
http://gs4.wonderhowto.com/how-to/root-any-samsung-galaxy-s4-one-click-0155622/

Avanox said:
And what about towelroot??
http://gs4.wonderhowto.com/how-to/root-any-samsung-galaxy-s4-one-click-0155622/
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Towelroot will simply not work on 5.0 (will reboot the phone after a while from clicking "make it ra1n" but no root access delivered)
For 4.4 you need GNF1 or older kernel for it to work - see HERE if you have newer version but still KK.

Ah ok and kingroot is also no option?
I m searching for the easyest way.
And is your way also possible to unroot?

The easiest way is CF-Autoroot, period. Flash it with the Odin software, let it deliver its payload, and you're done. If you want to unroot afterward, simply uninstall SuperSU.

Ah owkey so it's possible to unroot the device.
Will my warranty then not be rooted.
It's about galaxy s4
Some people talk about "trig Knox flag to 0x1?"
What is that???
Is it something with the warranty???
Because I don't want that my warranty is woided.

If I use your method and I must remove it with time the root.
Is this the application that I will need to reset the trig knox flag to 0x0 ???
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway
Greetings

I believe it was @zelendel who brought this up on another thread, but he asks people what root is and why they need it. Since you're clearly new at this, I'm taking a page from his book.
1. What is root?
2. Why do you need root?
If you cannot answer both questions, you have no business nor need of rooting your S4. That said, there is an entire thread on Knox in the General forum that you should be reading if you want to know more. However, regardless of the methods used, if you root the Knox flag will be tripped. Once tripped, it stays tripped. There is no way to reset it, period.

Avanox said:
Ah owkey so it's possible to unroot the device.
Will my warranty then not be rooted.
It's about galaxy s4
Some people talk about "trig Knox flag to 0x1?"
What is that???
Is it something with the warranty???
Because I don't want that my warranty is woided.
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Knox is some kind of security crap from Samsung. You can find more about it in the s4 general section or by googling it.
Knox default status is 0x0.
Tripping knox to 0x1 will voind your warranty.

1. rooting the the device is to have acces to the root of the phone so you can do more with your phone.
2. I want to root it because I want to have following options enabled at my phone.
* Moving programs to my sd card (not possible anymore without rooting)
* More control over 3G/4G/Wifi/Gps (from my computer) when phone is lost
* Set a security code on the phone factory reset (with avast root edition)
* Using less battery to let greenpower auto disable the 3G or wifi and so on.
At the moment this are the most important things for me.
Flashing roms and so on doesn't intrest me now , because everything is working fine.
Greetings Avanox
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
I believe it was @zelendel who brought this up on another thread, but he asks people what root is and why they need it. Since you're clearly new at this, I'm taking a page from his book.
1. What is root?
2. Why do you need root?
If you cannot answer both questions, you have no business nor need of rooting your S4. That said, there is an entire thread on Knox in the General forum that you should be reading if you want to know more. However, regardless of the methods used, if you root the Knox flag will be tripped. Once tripped, it stays tripped. There is no way to reset it, period.
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Fantastic. The reason I asked was to get you to slow down a bit and think about what you're doing. Your previous posts in the thread were all over the place and gave the impression that you didn't know what you were doing.
Back to Knox, do you still have a warranty on the S4? Most units will be out of warranty, in which case it won't matter if you trip the Knox flag. If you're trying to preserve your warranty, it probably will not be possible due to changes to Android.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Fantastic. The reason I asked was to get you to slow down a bit and think about what you're doing. Your previous posts in the thread were all over the place and gave the impression that you didn't know what you were doing.
Back to Knox, do you still have a warranty on the S4? Most units will be out of warranty, in which case it won't matter if you trip the Knox flag. If you're trying to preserve your warranty, it probably will not be possible due to changes to Android.
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Well yes I do have 2 year warranty because I did bought the galaxy s4 just 2 weeks ago, that's why I don't want to root it.
But if I could root it and still have the warranty on one or other way or set it back to normal , well that changes everything.
There are to much cool featers with this rooting stuff.
And also because I can't copy any files anymore to the sd card , stupidest change in android I've seen :'o
Greetings Avanox

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Fantastic. The reason I asked was to get you to slow down a bit and think about what you're doing. Your previous posts in the thread were all over the place and gave the impression that you didn't know what you were doing.
Back to Knox, do you still have a warranty on the S4? Most units will be out of warranty, in which case it won't matter if you trip the Knox flag. If you're trying to preserve your warranty, it probably will not be possible due to changes to Android.
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Ah owkey np.
Well yes I do have 2 year warranty because I did bought the galaxy s4 just 2 weeks ago, that's why I don't want to root it.
But if I could root it and still have the warranty on one or other way or set it back to normal , well that changes everything.
There are to much cool featers with this rooting stuff.
And also because I can't copy any files anymore to the sd card , stupidest change in android I've seen :'o
Greetings Avanox

So apparently you're still on Android 4.4.2, since Android 5.x removed the MicroSD card restriction. Is that correct?
As long as you are NOT on Android 5.x, you can root without tripping Knox, by downgrading the bootloader and modem to an earlier version, then running Towelroot. The drawback is that you won't be able to upgrade to Android 5.x. OTA updates won't function, and using Odin to upgrade wipes the /system partition, which will cost you root.
Regardless of the warranty, I personally would trip Knox and not lose any sleep over it.

Hey
Sorry for my double post.
Euh no, android 5.0.1 was already pre installed on this phone.
It is galaxy s4 black edition gt-i9515
Hmm maybe I must wait for a moment maybe there will come new safer methods
Greetings

The fact you have a value edition S4 changes things. You might as well flash CF-Autoroot now, because there are no safe methods for you. There are no custom ROMs either, but I digress.

@darrendude1: Rule number 1 of this site is to search before you post. The entire reason the rule is present is to avoid having people ask the same questions over and over again, simply because the question has likely been already answered. It applies regardless of whether you are a noob, senior member, recognized developer, or any other title the site may bestow.
In the case of the OP, you clearly didn't read the thread, because I explained to the OP exactly why I asked the questions. He understood why I asked them, and from there we have continued the conversation. To a noob, I would hope they would take rule 1 to heart, and actually did some research into what root is so they could actually explain why they think they need it.

Anyway to root G935FD(Exynos) without tripping knox?

Anyway to root G935FD(Exynos) without tripping knox?
Cant wait to root my phone , but still worry about the screen replacement in the future
Do you guys have any idea?

No probably wont ever happen.

mindstorms54 said:
Anyway to root G935FD(Exynos) without tripping knox?
Cant wait to root my phone , but still worry about the screen replacement in the future
Do you guys have any idea?
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Root without tripping knox is possible if a Engineering Bootloader surfaces.
But I'm not sure whether even it can retain the 0x0 for a longer time.

No the system scans for any abnormalities in the system and if it senses any changes boom knox tripped

It's extremely unlikely we will get root without tripping knox and like @Ausboy 2011 said, the system will trip knox if it detects any system modifications. Something as simnple as installing a root app could trip knox in this case.

They released an engineering bootloader for the galaxy S6 Edge. So it IS possible. We just need to wait for that time to come. With the engineering bootloader you can modify anything on the system without tripping knox. You just need to flash EVERYTHING back to stock at the same time if you chose to remove said bootloader. Also, I know in the beginning phases of use of this engineering bootloader they lost use of their fingerprint reader. So there's always that possibility too. But we'll just have to see if/when that time comes.

jaredroid said:
They released an engineering bootloader for the galaxy S6 Edge. So it IS possible. We just need to wait for that time to come. With the engineering bootloader you can modify anything on the system without tripping knox. You just need to flash EVERYTHING back to stock at the same time if you chose to remove said bootloader. Also, I know in the beginning phases of use of this engineering bootloader they lost use of their fingerprint reader. So there's always that possibility too. But we'll just have to see if/when that time comes.
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Looking forward to the day

Is Samsung pay rendered useless if you root then?

psufan5 said:
Is Samsung pay rendered useless if you root then?
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If you trip knox then yes.

peachpuff said:
If you trip knox then yes.
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And you can't "untrip" knox by going back to stock I assume?

Yes
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thing is we have the engineer bootloader for the s7 edge already. just noone has it working yet

mindstorms54 said:
Anyway to root G935FD(Exynos) without tripping knox?
Cant wait to root my phone , but still worry about the screen replacement in the future
Do you guys have any idea?
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what happens if knox is tripped? Can't i use mobile payment or anything?

tazoman said:
what happens if knox is tripped? Can't i use mobile payment or anything?
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No,if Knox is tripped Samsung Pay will not work

tazoman said:
what happens if knox is tripped? Can't i use mobile payment or anything?
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Btw
Your warranty will be void

mindstorms54 said:
Btw
Your warranty will be void
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This actually varies depending on your location. For instance, in Europe, tripping knox will NOT void warranty. It is against EU law to refuse a hardware repair just because the software has been modified.

CuBz90 said:
This actually varies depending on your location. For instance, in Europe, tripping knox will NOT void warranty. It is against EU law to refuse a hardware repair just because the software has been modified.
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That's true, but most places don't care, as they just send it to Samsung and they deny warranty repair because of tripped knox. You can of course get the repair if you take the fight up.. But really, who want to? I sued the place where I bought my S6, because they would not repair a KNOWN HARDWARE failure on the S6 (pink dots on front camera) after I had rooted my phone. They sent it to Samsung and they denied. By law they should pay the repair then.
I was told I was right by Danish Customer Service, but they needed my phone for like 7-8 months and I did not have my S7 Edge there, so I would be without a phone, so I called it.. For really, what could I win? I knew I would upgrade when the S7 came out anyway.

Faspaiso said:
That's true, but most places don't care, as they just send it to Samsung and they deny warranty repair because of tripped knox. You can of course get the repair if you take the fight up.. But really, who want to? I sued the place where I bought my S6, because they would not repair a KNOWN HARDWARE failure on the S6 (pink dots on front camera) after I had rooted my phone. They sent it to Samsung and they denied. By law they should pay the repair then.
I was told I was right by Danish Customer Service, but they needed my phone for like 7-8 months and I did not have my S7 Edge there, so I would be without a phone, so I called it.. For really, what could I win? I knew I would upgrade when the S7 came out anyway.
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Here in the UK, Samsung will repair even if Knox is tripped. I have had a few repairs over the years and have always had tripped Knox. Some other UK users on here have confirmed the same.

Well that's nice. Sure they're are aware Knox was tripped? Because I was an idiot back then, I sent my phone in with a custom ROM, så they could not enter the binary, which was the reason they saw Knox was tripped.. When I said I would flash stock firmware, they said that was not possible without replacing something inside (the motherboard I think).

Faspaiso said:
Well that's nice. Sure they're are aware Knox was tripped? Because I was an idiot back then, I sent my phone in with a custom ROM, så they could not enter the binary, which was the reason they saw Knox was tripped.. When I said I would flash stock firmware, they said that was not possible without replacing something inside (the motherboard I think).
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A Samsung rep in one of the repair stores told me that it doesn't matter if it has a tripped Knox as long as we put the stock firmware on the phone and it is NOT rooted. If it's rooted they will refuse.
However, I have known people to get the repair even when rooted.
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Knox Warranty and Rooting - Advice Wanted

Curiosity got the better of me, and I just installed a custom recovery and a custom rom on my S8.
Obviously the knox warranty void thing now reads 0x1.
I wish I hadn't bothered as custom rom doesn't run as stable and nice as the factory EE firmware that was on my phone before
I'm going to revert my phone back to original firmware with Odin later. Could anyone advise me whether it is possible to reset the Knox 0x1 thing back to original 0x0? I'm guessing not. If that's the case, how will this affect things when I'm back on original firmware? Will I still recieve OTA updates in the usual way etc.? What are the disadvantages apart from the void warranty?
Joe

u cant revert e-fuse knox bit. losing it means lose for good.
all secure apps like samsungpay, some banking app, etc wont work.
tripped knox shud still avail to receive OTA but rooting prohibit it & OTA needs original stock recovery to work.

JoeDarbyd said:
Curiosity got the better of me, and I just installed a custom recovery and a custom rom on my S8.
Obviously the knox warranty void thing now reads 0x1.
I wish I hadn't bothered as custom rom doesn't run as stable and nice as the factory EE firmware that was on my phone before
I'm going to revert my phone back to original firmware with Odin later. Could anyone advise me whether it is possible to reset the Knox 0x1 thing back to original 0x0? I'm guessing not. If that's the case, how will this affect things when I'm back on original firmware? Will I still recieve OTA updates in the usual way etc.? What are the disadvantages apart from the void warranty?
Joe
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Knoxed is knoxed. Can't reset that one. You can of course flash original firmware back with Odin if you wish. But Samsung Pay will never work. S-Health might work, but i'm not sure if you need custom rom to make it work (with magisk)
OTA's will come as usual even with knoxed device if you are on original firmware. (not rooted)

Thanks for your advice! I have no intention of using Samsung Pay, but DO use Android Pay. Will it still work when I've reverted back?
Joe

JoeDarbyd said:
Thanks for your advice! I have no intention of using Samsung Pay, but DO use Android Pay. Will it still work when I've reverted back?
Joe
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Without further investigation i don't believe android pay will care about knox being 0x1. But with root it won't work. (again, maybe with magisk).

I tested this last week and I had no issues using either Android Pay or Samsung Pay on my rooted s8+. I just hid the root from the apps in magisk and I was good to go. Knox is obviously tripped so I dont think that's a deal breaker.

xeathpk said:
I tested this last week and I had no issues using either Android Pay or Samsung Pay on my rooted s8+. I just hid the root from the apps in magisk and I was good to go. Knox is obviously tripped so I dont think that's a deal breaker.
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I guarantee you, that won't last.
By the time a security/knox upgrade comes in the Magisk hide loophole will be patched.

Skander1998 said:
I guarantee you, that won't last.
By the time a security/knox upgrade comes in the Magisk hide loophole will be patched.
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Wouldn't bother me for a few reasons.
1. I rarely use NFC pay as it is.
2. I don't use Samsung or Android Pay, I only installed and tested them because of all the fuss going on over people afraid of losing the feature.
3. My bank ANZ Australia has their own NFC mobile pay app that I like better anyways.
Just wanted to clarify for some users that as of right now on the current up-to-date firmware, you can certainly use these NFC pay features. Whether that changes in the future and and how soon is anyone's guess.

Knox apps destroyed

Hi just got my s8 plus and I'm just wondering I want to root and been searching around about what tripping knox brakes but keep getting mixed views
I will be rooting and flashing a custom Rom and kernel would someone be kind enough to list every app that get broken and is not fixed even by a custom Rom or kernel (like iris scanner,s Health, ect)
As I really want to root but don't want to damage too many apps in the process
Many thanks also my model is the SM-G955F

brockyneo said:
Hi just got my s8 plus and I'm just wondering I want to root and been searching around about what tripping knox brakes but keep getting mixed views
I will be rooting and flashing a custom Rom and kernel would someone be kind enough to list every app that get broken and is not fixed even by a custom Rom or kernel (like iris scanner,s Health, ect)
As I really want to root but don't want to damage too many apps in the process
Many thanks also my model is the SM-G955F
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Samsung pay - permanently broken
Secure folder - permanently broken
That's it really

callumbr1 said:
Samsung pay - permanently broken
Secure folder - permanently broken
That's it really
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Cant they work with faked 0x0 knox kernel ?

Well if that's it then I'll go ahead and root as I don't use them 2 apps anyways
Thanks

nikexv2 said:
Cant they work with faked 0x0 knox kernel ?
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No unfortunately not, Knox is a fuse on the motherboard. Once tripped it burns. So far only way to get Knox back would be to change the motherboard

callumbr1 said:
No unfortunately not, Knox is a fuse on the motherboard. Once tripped it burns. So far only way to get Knox back would be to change the motherboard
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Yes but the apps and system dont read the statuts directly from the bootloader but from the kernel, this is why there is a kernel that has faked 0x0 knox, but the fuse is still blown yes.

nikexv2 said:
Yes but the apps and system dont read the statuts directly from the bootloader but from the kernel, this is why there is a kernel that has faked 0x0 knox, but the fuse is still blown yes.
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You can use terminal to change Knox to 0x0 but still. S health will work and some apps, but not secure folder or Samsung pay

so, knox tripped and rooted on stock unmodified rom :
safety net fail : (no apps like samsung pay, Pokemon go, Mario run, snapchat login ,etc)
no system updates
samsung apps won't work : samsung pass, samsung pay, Shealth, secure folder, issue with private mode on samsung internet,
if you use a custom rom most of stuff CAN be fixed like
safety net pass with magisk hide (root)
s health work
private mode on internet
BUT some are permanent and can't be fixed even with custom rom so once rooted , no way back except buy new phone
samsung pass, samsung pay, secure folder
Remember that once you are rooted and knox counter is tripped (0x1), its irreversible and can't be "unrooted" or be official and reset knox counter even by flashing stock firmware though odin because since galaxy s7 the knox counter is not software related but its hardware. its an electronic fuse and if you root or install custom recovery etc the electronic fuse will broke and broken fuse mean tripped knox counter. this is because even flashing stock firmware is useless, as most of Samsung apps knox related don't only check root but also the knox counter, so unroot won't help. so think twice before rooting your device

callumbr1 said:
You can use terminal to change Knox to 0x0 but still. S health will work and some apps, but not secure folder or Samsung pay
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Didn't know that, what's the command to do so ? I couldn't find anything on google

nikexv2 said:
Didn't know that, what's the command to do so ? I couldn't find anything on google
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su
resetprop -v ro.config.tima 0
Type that in terminal. It will make Knox show 0x0 on device ONLY. Download mode will still show as 0x1.

nikexv2 said:
Didn't know that, what's the command to do so ? I couldn't find anything on google
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its useless, Samsung knox apps dont check if they see 0x0 but it just put some electricity though the knox fuse and if it get though it its ok but if the electricity dont success to get through the fuse it mean its broken so I mean knox is 0x1 and rooted.
fake knox counter is useless as every knox eligibility checks are hardware and not software. fake 0x0 is only for you ^^to reset the counter only way is the replace the motherboard, even Samsung can't reset it

robhug said:
its useless, Samsung knox apps dont check if they see 0x0 but it just put some electricity though the knox fuse and if it get though it its ok but if the electricity dont success to get through the fuse it mean its broken so I mean knox is 0x1 and rooted.
fake knox counter is useless as every knox eligibility checks are hardware and not software. fake 0x0 is only for you ^^to reset the counter only way is the replace the motherboard, even Samsung can't reset it
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There has to be some hardware abstraction layer, you can't just test the fuse each time, that would mean that the apps have really low level rights/api to do so wich is risky. The bootloader tests the fuse and writes the value to the kernel, wich can be faked to make some apps work.
If the value is checked by apps then there is a software value other than the hardware status.
But dont quote me on that.
For apps that dont work i think there is some selinux policies issues or root gets detected.
Why would devs include the fake 0x0 counter if it was useless ?

darn making me think twice about rooting now i mainly want it for debloating,apps ad blocking,viper4android,and a few mods like stereo speaker and camera mod
also the youtube mod which allows us to stream 4k (i know we only have 2k display) but i still like to stream in 4k

brockyneo said:
darn making me think twice about rooting now i mainly want it for debloating,apps ad blocking,viper4android,and a few mods like stereo speaker and camera mod
also the youtube mod which allows us to stream 4k (i know we only have 2k display) but i still like to stream in 4k
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I have rooted for the exact reasons you stated above. Wouldn't go back even if I could. Using the terminal code I posted allows you to use some apps that rely on 0x0. Samsung health is one of them as I use it every day.

callumbr1 said:
I have rooted for the exact reasons you stated above. Wouldn't go back even if I could. Using the terminal code I posted allows you to use some apps that rely on 0x0. Samsung health is one of them as I use it every day.
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to be honest ive rooted every device ive had dating back to the htc hd2 lol
that's why i sent the xperia xz premium back was due to locked bootloader which looks near impossible to root
ill properly root i just didn't want to destroy any apps which made any hardware not work properly but if everything works (apart from samsung pay and secure folder) which i don't use both then should be worth the trip lol :silly:

brockyneo said:
to be honest ive rooted every device ive had dating back to the htc hd2 lol
that's why i sent the xperia xz premium back was due to locked bootloader which looks near impossible to root
ill properly root i just didn't want to destroy any apps which made any hardware not work properly but if everything works (apart from samsung pay and secure folder) which i don't use both then should be worth the trip lol :silly:
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And also I can confirm Samsung pass doesn't work also. However I never use it so that doesn't bother me. To be honest I would root just for viper4android. And I use android pay instead of Samsung pay which also works perfect

Still haven't rooted yet darn cart make my mind up I've rooted every phone I've had and it's the first thing I normally do :silly:
Does anyone think there will be more knox apps coming out which if knox is tripped we will be missing out on
Or what if Samsung make a few more apps go through knox like s health or iris scanner then we would be stuck then lol
I don't know miss the good old days where you could just go back to stock no worrys

brockyneo said:
Still haven't rooted yet darn cart make my mind up I've rooted every phone I've had and it's the first thing I normally do :silly:
Does anyone think there will be more knox apps coming out which if knox is tripped we will be missing out on
Or what if Samsung make a few more apps go through knox like s health or iris scanner then we would be stuck then lol
I don't know miss the good old days where you could just go back to stock no worrys
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I don't think they will release anything else knox related. At least not for the s8 anyway
S health and iris scanner work perfect now after root, they won't implement them into knox status don't worry.

callumbr1 said:
I don't think they will release anything else knox related. At least not for the s8 anyway
S health and iris scanner work perfect now after root, they won't implement them into knox status don't worry.
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Thanks I'm going to have to root I miss it too much I've given it 3 weeks and I've never used secure folder or Samsung pass so I won't miss them and Samsung pay although i haven't used I will miss lol
Isn't android pay ment to be better anyway?
Thanks again

brockyneo said:
Thanks I'm going to have to root I miss it too much I've given it 3 weeks and I've never used secure folder or Samsung pass so I won't miss them and Samsung pay although i haven't used I will miss lol
Isn't android pay ment to be better anyway?
Thanks again
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I had to root for viper4android amd I'm not running renovate ROM and it so much better than stock.
In my opinion android pay is better and it's supported in many places. But that's my opinion.
If you root I recommend rooting with magisk. So you can use magisk hide and modules. Good luck and post here if you need any help :good: