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Just an observation which I'm pretty sure is software related. The same chipset with less ram is in my brother's moto g and there's no perceivable lag on that phone. An occasional stutter here and there is understandable but damn this thing slows way down. My guess is a dirty non optimized Sharp rom. Really, this thing should fly!
Something I noticed when comparing the Moto G with the Crystal on CPU-Z is Motorola has the CPU governor set to "Interactive" whereas the Crystal is set to "Ondemand"
Also you can't use ART on this phone which is a bummer because it definitely would help!
Also I've disabled Clip Now, Clip Now Setting, and Lumen toolbar so they're not running in the background.
I have too noticed some lag. It is most apparent for me when I switch apps quickly and open Hangouts to send a message and Swiftkey will not recognize any taps for about 20 seconds or so, and when I enter my PIN. I see more stuttering on the Crystal while scrolling through my Play apps while installing updates than what I did with my Optimus F3 that has a dual-core. It also was odd that ART is not available since it is with KK.
It looks like there is some kind of update for the Softbank version here http://www.softbank.jp/mobile/info/personal/software/20140917-01/ , so it might be making the rounds in carrier testing in the US. In Chrome's translation of the Japanese on the website it says that the Crystal will be supported for 3 years, so that looks nice.
As useful as Clip Now is, regular screenshots might be more efficient. I saw the app Greenify on the side-bar here on XDA, checked it out, and it works well to save battery life. It essentially "hibernates" apps and stops them from running in the background.
After reading the specs on this device awhile back, what you're describing isn't really a surprise.......which is probably why I won't purchase unless the Japanese version comes to the US.
Crystal Lag? Not on mine!
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After reading the specs on this device awhile back, what you're describing isn't really a surprise.......which is probably why I won't purchase unless the Japanese version comes to the US.
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Guys, I've lost count on how many smartphones & tablets I've had in past 8 years. Prior to getting the 306SH I was carrying a Note 3 from Tmobile which was rooted with a tweaked ROM and that sucker was F A S T! For most tasks I find my Sharp to be just as fast and in some cases FASTER than my former Note 3!
Yes, I uninstalled and disabled some apps I never use, like Drive, Google Play Books and Google Play Newsstand.
Bottom Line: Numbers don't always tell the truth when it comes to real life.
My Sharp Aquos Crystal flies. Sorry if yours doesn't.
Glenn
I think this is really nice phone. Not just the looks, but it performs quite well too.
I have not experienced any lag, so far, installed about 30 apps, took pictures, played music...
The music sounds pretty good coming out of the speakers too! Oh, I did install Apollo Music Player, as I did not see "stock" player there, only g-Music... As with all Androids, I think Greenify is a must-have app; even though we do not have root yet, it kills (user) apps that try to constantly run in background (FB, Skype, etc..).
After the first full charge yesterday when I bought it, right now is down to about 28%, so that's 1 day and 2 hours on battery. Not bad.
The wife loves it, mainly because of the unique design, but like the performance too; it's an upgrade for her aging Epic 4G Touch...
So far so good!
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Guys, I've lost count on how many smartphones & tablets I've had in past 8 years. Prior to getting the 306SH I was carrying a Note 3 from Tmobile which was rooted with a tweaked ROM and that sucker was F A S T! For most tasks I find my Sharp to be just as fast and in some cases FASTER than my former Note 3!
Yes, I uninstalled and disabled some apps I never use, like Drive, Google Play Books and Google Play Newsstand.
Bottom Line: Numbers don't always tell the truth when it comes to real life.
My Sharp Aquos Crystal flies. Sorry if yours doesn't.
Glenn
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No Glenn, your Crystal doesn't fly. It's
just faster than your Note 3, which isn't slightly surprising. Touchwiz ruins Android on many levels. Aside from that the fact remains it should run a near stock version of Android faster and smother than it does. Coming from a Nexus 4 I know what fast is.
I have both the Crystal and a Moto G. They perform exactly the same to me - both are pretty responsive and although I can get both to lag a little bit if I really try, it is pretty good considering the hardware.. I wonder if you might have some apps that are slowing things down for you?
I've had the Sprint prepaid and Boost versions of this phone. Texting becomes annoying with any keyboard I am using because touch and response doesn't always match up for some reason. Just can't get it right on this phone. This lag you speak of I definitely experienced. It happens most often when the battery is low under 15%. Try it out for yourself. You'll notice that's when the lag comes out to play. I mean its still operatable so can't complain too much but it's definitely noticeable. Must be a hidden power save feature. With that being said I've noticed the lag other times when too many apps are open in recents or the phone's been being used to long. Memory problem? Idk.
I have absolutely no lag on this phone what so ever. Sorry to those that are experiencing that, return it for a warranty replacement. I use this phone a lot, and it never slows down. I have been playing asphalt 8 with the graphics settings cranked up and no lag. You guys just got bad models, it happens with every manufacturer. My last phone was the lg optimus f7, I had to return it 4 times before I got one that was good.
i meet the same problem
I've read and seen videos saying that they've noticed lag. What lag? I haven't had any lag whatsoever. Screen is super responsive and so are the buttons. Transitions are seamless, no stutter whatsoever playing Asphalt 8. I don't get it. I've had the phone since release day haven't put it down and haven't noticed the slightest stutter either.
Am I not understanding the meaning of lag? Am I one lucky bastard with a perfect device? Can anyone give me examples of lag?
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I've read and seen videos saying that they've noticed lag. What lag? I haven't had any lag whatsoever. Screen is super responsive and so are the buttons. Transitions are seamless, no stutter whatsoever playing Asphalt 8. I don't get it. I've had the phone since release day haven't put it down and haven't noticed the slightest stutter either.
Am I not understanding the meaning of lag? Am I one lucky bastard with a perfect device? Can anyone give me examples of lag?
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That's because we have exynos. Poor guys have slow snapdragon [emoji23] [emoji107]
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That's because we have exynos. Poor guys have slow snapdragon [emoji23] [emoji107]
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Lol. You kill me bruh But for real, isn't the SD 920 "better"? That's not my opinion but what I've heard.
There is no lag on the Snapdragon version either except in a few games. Moving around the UI is just as fast as the 6S+ I came from and Asphalt 8 runs as smooth as butter.
Where there is lag is in certain games like Hearthstone. The game just doesn't feel optimized for the phone. Some have said it's an issue with Marshmallow on Samsung devices with certain games. It just doesn't make sense since the Snapdragon version has the most powerful mobile GPU on the market.
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Lol. You kill me bruh But for real, isn't the SD 920 "better"? That's not my opinion but what I've heard.
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Everything I've read seems like SD and EX swap blows for who'se best. I can't play with the EX version though so what do I know (resident of the United States of Litigation).
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Lol. You kill me bruh But for real, isn't the SD 920 "better"? That's not my opinion but what I've heard.
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nop, it only have 1-4fps advantage over the GPU`s apart, everything else the exynos wins, hands down!
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There is no lag on the Snapdragon version either except in a few games. Moving around the UI is just as fast as the 6S+ I came from and Asphalt 8 runs as smooth as butter.
Where there is lag is in certain games like Hearthstone. The game just doesn't feel optimized for the phone. Some have said it's an issue with Marshmallow on Samsung devices with certain games. It just doesn't make sense since the Snapdragon version has the most powerful mobile GPU on the market.
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If we're talking about specific games not being optimized it's not lag per say. My iPhone 6s would just freeze for a second while scrolling through pages. That's what I call lag. Not sure what those people are talking about. Thanks for the reference. I did see the hearthstone being mentioned.
I haven't noticed any lag and I'm a power user on an 820. I think people may have stutters here and there. But I haven't experienced that. I did on my s6 once in a blue, but haven't at all yet on the s7 edge.
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I haven't noticed any lag and I'm a power user on an 820. I think people may have stutters here and there. But I haven't experienced that. I did on my s6 once in a blue, but haven't at all yet on the s7 edge.
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The only issues I had on my s6 edge and note 5 was redraw and it only happened with the samsung clock/weather widget. Besides I find that any potential launcher lag can be easily fixed by switching to Nova. Otherwise I haven't had any redraws since my note 5.
It seems that most people repoprting issues such as lag and hot phones have the Snapdragon variant. Not all of them though as some have reported having no issues.It's strange.
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It seems that most people repoprting issues such as lag and hot phones have the Snapdragon variant. Not all of them though as some have reported having no issues.It's strange.
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Not so strange when you consider the amount of devices built at different assembly locations. With the sheer number of devices being pumped out you're bound to have a lemon or two. What I don't get is people starting threads saying they're going back to Apple because the s7 edge is laggy af when they just had a faulty device. My note 4 had this weird lag and I brought it to the Samsung service center and they fixed it. My iPhone 6s had this weird stutter but I won't go around trashing the iPhone 6s cause it lags that's simply not true.
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Not so strange when you consider the amount of devices built at different assembly locations. With the sheer number of devices being pumped out you're bound to have a lemon or two. What I don't get is people starting threads saying they're going back to Apple because the s7 edge is laggy af when they just had a faulty device. My note 4 had this weird lag and I brought it to the Samsung service center and they fixed it. My iPhone 6s had this weird stutter but I won't go around trashing the iPhone 6s cause it lags that's simply not true.
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Ye most of them are just trolls.
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The only thing my S7 Edge has lagged doing was playing Hearthstone. Everything else runs good. If i return it, it won't be because of lag. It will be due to the horrible standby battery drain.
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The only thing my S7 Edge has lagged doing was playing Hearthstone. Everything else runs good. If i return it, it won't be because of lag. It will be due to the horrible standby battery drain.
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Which is another perfect example, I have 0 battery issues. I've gone 1.5 days on my phone with power use. Compared to the s6, this battery is amazing.
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Which is another perfect example, I have 0 battery issues. I've gone 1.5 days on my phone with power use. Compared to the s6, this battery is amazing.
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What can I say other than we both played the Samsung lottery and I lost.
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What can I say other than we both played the Samsung lottery and I lost.
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Have you done the tried and true double factory reset and test with no post set up apps? I've found a lot of apps, including Facebook are horrendous with battery abuse. Just a thought.
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The only thing my S7 Edge has lagged doing was playing Hearthstone. Everything else runs good. If i return it, it won't be because of lag. It will be due to the horrible standby battery drain.
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What drain? I lose about 3% overnight. Between 11:30 and 3:30.
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What drain? I lose about 3% overnight. Between 11:30 and 3:30.
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Lucky you. I lose about 15% overnight with all my power getting sucked up by Android system, Android OS and Phone Idle.
I'm hoping this latest update from T-Mobile fixed the battery drain in standby mode. If not, I'll likely go back to the store and exchange it for another. They told me another shipment was coming in this weekend and they still have quite a few S7 Edges left in store.
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Lucky you. I lose about 15% overnight with all my power getting sucked up by Android system, Android OS and Phone Idle.
I'm hoping this latest update from T-Mobile fixed the battery drain in standby mode. If not, I'll likely go back to the store and exchange it for another. They told me another shipment was coming in this weekend and they still have quite a few S7 Edges left in store.
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Whoa! 15% overnight. That sounds like the Google services leak from back in the note 4 days. Did you check the T-Mobile Q&A thread to see if anyone else is experiencing this?
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Whoa! 15% overnight. That sounds like the Google services leak from back in the note 4 days. Did you check the T-Mobile Q&A thread to see if anyone else is experiencing this?
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Yea. Looks like some are experiencing even more although this latest update seemed to improve things. I'll have to do some further testing to know for sure.
Yesterday though, it did look like something was leaking. I turned WiFi on and didn't do anything at all. I even set WiFi to sleep when the device was turned off yet somehow GSAM reported 9mb downloaded over WiFi and like I said, I didn't do anything at all with WiFi.
Hi,
I'm really disappointed, I got my brand new s8 yesterday, and it looks and feels amazing like really really great.
Sadely it stutters a lot after a few swipes scrolling down in many apps, most disappointing were Instagram and Fenix, two perfectly smooth apps on my Pixel.
Is my device defective? What's your experience?
I think I 'm going to return it though
Best,
Dreadk
Instagram feels fine while scrolling ... even fast scrolling is good.
Maybe your Inet connection bandwidth?
My s8 stutters. I have no lag in instagram. Samsung browser lags a lot, also apparant on xda-dev forum site. My s7 edge never stuttered, it's buttery smooth. Both devices are Exynos. I am contemplating about returning it and sticking to my galaxy s7 edge. Batterylife also is worse than my s7 edge. On my s7 edge, I averaged at around 1000-1500mAh used for the battery. On my s8, I averaged at around 800-900mAh....
My phone is always warm, Android System is also quite high at about 10% when the display is at 40%. I am not happy with the S8. My s7 edge is much louder with dualspeakermod as well. The s8 has a very very weak earpiece speaker, so dualspeakermod won't be amazing at all.
Rear-facing camera favours retaining highlights on the s8. On the s7 edge it always wants to up the shadows. S8 camera has less noise but it's nothing special compared to my s7 edge.
Front facing camera is nice on the s8...but the autofocus is a pain in the ass. On the s7 edge, focus is always perfect due to fixed focus. On s7 edge, sometimes it needs refocus and can result in blurred image....
I got a 500Mb fiber and my Pixel on the same wifi scrolls smoothly anyway.
Wish it could be a simple fix like that ^^
Wow looks like you have much more complaints than I do, anyway I didn't test the phone further, smooth scrolling is one on my most wanted feature ; so I stopped digging deeper.
Why no reviewer did notice this stuff though?
I remember it was the same with iPhone 7 stuttering everywhere (10.3 greatly improved that recently, but too late).
Guys,
How are you installing your apps?
Are you doing a transfer from old phone to S8?
Sometimes installing apps fresh is best. Also double check your settings.
I usually use Nova Launcher so will see what the stock launcher is like for a day or two and then decide if Nova will be better.
I did a transfer first and then two factory reset installs (only installing instagram and fenix) because I couldn't believe it
I wonder if it's not an Exynos only problem, I suspect Samsung might have optimized the snapdragon / US version much more than the European one; US market is way more important I guess.
Any clue about that?
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I usually use Nova Launcher so will see what the stock launcher is like for a day or two and then decide if Nova will be better.
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I did a transfer first and then two factory reset installs (only installing instagram and fenix) because I couldn't believe it
I wonder if it's not an Exynos only problem, I suspect Samsung might have optimized the snapdragon / US version much more than the European one; US market is way more important I guess.
Any clue about that?
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I have the US Verizon variant and mine lags a lot. Tons of jank when simply pulling down the Notification Shade. Very disappointed. Doesn't matter whether I run the TW or GN launchers; both do the same thing. For having a SnapDragon 835 and a truckload of RAM, I expected it to be very smooth. I've tried turning down the display to just HD and that didn't make any difference at all.
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I have the US Verizon variant and mine lags a lot. Tons of jank when simply pulling down the Notification Shade. Very disappointed. Doesn't matter whether I run the TW or GN launchers; both do the same thing. For having a SnapDragon 835 and a truckload of RAM, I expected it to be very smooth. I've tried turning down the display to just HD and that didn't make any difference at all.
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I have a US GS8 on VZW and I actually feel this is the smoothest device I've ever used. I'm coming (back to Android after a mini break) from an iPhone 7 Plus and in some places the GS8 is smoother and more fluid than the iPhone. It's way better than what Android used to be.
Maybe there's an app or something running in the background?
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I have a US GS8 on VZW and I actually feel this is the smoothest device I've ever used. I'm coming (back to Android after a mini break) from an iPhone 7 Plus and in some places the GS8 is smoother and more fluid than the iPhone. It's way better than what Android used to be.
Maybe there's an app or something running in the background?
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I thought that too but this did it right out of the box before I even started loading apps. I'd love to figure out what's wrong. Considered doing an FDR just for the sake of doing it before I get too comfortable with the initial setup, as I know I'm lazy and will put it off. I mean could I have a CPU disabled or something? I guess I could contact Samsung support but I'm assuming they are going to be swamped for the next couple of weeks... but need an answer before my return window comes up.
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I have the US Verizon variant and mine lags a lot. Tons of jank when simply pulling down the Notification Shade. Very disappointed. Doesn't matter whether I run the TW or GN launchers; both do the same thing. For having a SnapDragon 835 and a truckload of RAM, I expected it to be very smooth. I've tried turning down the display to just HD and that didn't make any difference at all.
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I have a US GS8 on VZW and I actually feel this is the smoothest device I've ever used. I'm coming (back to Android after a mini break) from an iPhone 7 Plus and in some places the GS8 is smoother and more fluid than the iPhone. It's way better than what Android used to be.
Maybe there's an app or something running in the background?
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Maybe there's an app or something running in the background?
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As I said, I factory reset two times, only installing instagram and fenix after initial setup and without modifying any option. No luck
Maybe I got a defective unit.
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Why no reviewer did notice this stuff though?
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Because everyone configures their phone differently and the likely cause of these random issues isn't the phone it's some combination of user specific apps and settings.
Dreadk said:
I did a transfer first and then two factory reset installs (only installing instagram and fenix) because I couldn't believe it
I wonder if it's not an Exynos only problem, I suspect Samsung might have optimized the snapdragon / US version much more than the European one; US market is way more important I guess.
Any clue about that?
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I remember a few years ago when the note 5 was released. Boy did that phone lag, it was unbelievable. The thing is not many people would notice it and like you I use fenix and talon for Twitter and if a phone lags on these 2 apps it's glaringly obvious for me. Please let me know how you get on with this as was hoping to get a s8 from work.
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Because everyone configures their phone differently and the likely cause of these random issues isn't the phone it's some combination of user specific apps and settings.
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Please read my posts, I did factory reset the phone two times only installing instagram and fenix, not changing any settings.
Definitely not user specific, I wish it could be though, easy fix...
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Please let me know how you get on with this as was hoping to get a s8 from work.
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I did a video, can you see the stutter (the video is 60fps) ?
https://youtu.be/YTTYtT8JR_U
The worst part is around 12 to 17 sec.
give the phone a bit of time to adapt, there is always small updates to fix these minor issues
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give the phone a bit of time to adapt, there is always small updates to fix these minor issues
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Guess you're right, I'm quite sure the stutter is caused by Samsung software trying too hard to smooth the scrolling.
Because to get the stutter I must scroll without pause, if I pause and scroll again things stay smooth.
I really hope they fix that soon but what if they don't and I can't return the phone...
PS: it tooks Apple 6 months to fix the same kind of issues on the iPhone 7.
UK s8. Upgraded from a Google Pixel and it feels like a downgrade in terms of speed and smoothness. Not buttery at all. Stutters everywhere!
Seriously, Samsung? Don't they test these things?
Some phones exhibit choppy scrolling, especially when navigating long web pages when multiple apps are running in the background. Rate this thread to express how you smooth scrolling feels on the LG G8 under such conditions. A higher rating indicates that scrolling is always buttery smooth, even when you're reading a 10,000 word article on "how to kiss a girl".
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I don`t have the LG G8 but some reviewers are talking about a lag. Have you experienced such thing?
This quote is from phonearena review
One thing that surprised us negatively when using the LG G8 was the amount of lag and stutter in places where you would not expect it like in the home screen and the recent apps interface.
This definitely feels like a bug in the LG interface and something that we have seen on pre-production devices, but definitely not something that we can tolerate in a phone, let alone a flagship. The stutter is quite noticeable, but we do hope that the company will fix it with an update as this seems to be some kind of a bug and this is definitely not expected in a phone with the latest and most powerful Snapdragon chip around.
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I have a LG G8 and I have seen this issue.
Scrolling smoothness and responsiveness is always perfect after a reboot, but after some time (a day or 2) it gets choppy and a little laggy. It clears up after a reboot. I have not been able to clear it up by closing apps. And it does not seem to be affected by the resolution setting. I also have not found that starting any specific app seems to cause it.
I have seen the choppiness in Nova Launcher's app draw, Chrome and Kiwi Browser, and several other apps. The choppiness is like the frame rate is dropping from 60FPS to sub 30 FPS.
Perhaps the issues is a power management bug or some kind of CPU throttling.
Anandtech states the same thing which is disappointing , hopefully it's a software issue rather than hardware.
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I have a LG G8 and I have seen this issue.
Scrolling smoothness and responsiveness is always perfect after a reboot, but after some time (a day or 2) it gets choppy and a little laggy. It clears up after a reboot. I have not been able to clear it up by closing apps. And it does not seem to be affected by the resolution setting. I also have not found that starting any specific app seems to cause it.
I have seen the choppiness in Nova Launcher's app draw, Chrome and Kiwi Browser, and several other apps. The choppiness is like the frame rate is dropping from 60FPS to sub 30 FPS.
Perhaps the issues is a power management bug or some kind of CPU throttling.
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I too reboot to make sure there's like choppiness on a phone with SD845 LG G7, but in LG G8, surprised that it's the software to blame, not the SoC
In my LG G7, Settings/Battery/power Saving Exclusions/ tick all apps "On" I don't know why LG added this useless feature? LG should damn bootloader unlock all variants, so that a rooted phone with custom kernel with different CPU Governors have an impact on smoothness in the UI ! Even a USA unlocked model unfortunately, no support from LG.
Settings/Developer Options/ tick on "Force GPU Rendering" & OpenGL "Skia" should make the underrated beast smoother/snappier! How sad, LG
Haven't seen a stutter yet
I haven't rebooted in 5 days, and performance had been good. Only thing I have changed is I set my live wallpaper to the fluid Sim one on the play store. Probably not related unless it's something to do with a power saving state like I speculated before and that wallpaper is causing the CPU/gpu to go to a higher power state (probably not though).
Probably just a coincidence.
I haven't experienced any issues with scrolling. No stutters or anything, wonderful performance on this phone since I got it.
Mine was clean and smooth for the first 2 days, then finally developed noticeable lag that required a restart. I wish I could cange my vote.
I wonder if this is Pie, more than LG. When my s8 'upgraded', I had to restart every day to steady the frame rate, despite my tweaking of every power saving setting and animation related dev tool.
I totally aggree, if they can't bother to make it work right, they really ought to let the community do it. While my inexperienced eye was granting power saving exclusions to every app, I noticed a system app called "SuperBatterySaving". Is this new to android? Perhaps the issue?
Oh, and I found no "Skia" opengl setting.
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I too reboot to make sure there's like choppiness on a phone with SD845 LG G7, but in LG G8, surprised that it's the software to blame, not the SoC
In my LG G7, Settings/Battery/power Saving Exclusions/ tick all apps "On" I don't know why LG added this useless feature? LG should damn bootloader unlock all variants, so that a rooted phone with custom kernel with different CPU Governors have an impact on smoothness in the UI ! Even a USA unlocked model unfortunately, no support from LG.
Settings/Developer Options/ tick on "Force GPU Rendering" & OpenGL "Skia" should make the underrated beast smoother/snappier! How sad, LG
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I switched on power exclusions for every app, switched off Adaptive battery, forced gpu rendering. Nothing helps. After 1 or 2 days, the frames drop in most animation, even simple games.
After this happened with my s8 as well, I'm pointing my finger at Pie. My wild guess is that it averages your use and throttles the cpu to that average. I use Bose sleepbuds, which require an app to run all night, but only sipping power. I dunno, I've thought about it every morning since Pie entered.
What do you all think?
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I switched on power exclusions for every app, switched off Adaptive battery, forced gpu rendering. Nothing helps. After 1 or 2 days, the frames drop in most animation, even simple games.
After this happened with my s8 as well, I'm pointing my finger at Pie. My wild guess is that it averages your use and throttles the cpu to that average. I use Bose sleepbuds, which require an app to run all night, but only sipping power. I dunno, I've thought about it every morning since Pie entered.
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:good::good::good:
I can't believe how often I have to restart this phone to smooth the frame rate. Sometimes twice per day. It's so aggravating to have an expensive flagship act like a budget pos. I will note that it seems to happen more on days that I use hdmi out.
People with other phones have complained about similar issues with the arrival of Pie. How can we complain to Google, or at least see if a fix is in the works?
I've got the unlocked US T-Mobile red version and there is definitely lag/stutter on the UI but it's something I can live with. It seems to have a cold a start then catch up then sends fine afterwards.
My 6T maybe fast but it's definitely not as smooth as other phones out there.
Update: My issue seems to be related to using hdmi out. I haven't used it in a couple weeks, and have had no more stuttering problems at all. Nice and smooth. Now I'm glad I voted high here. It's been a real pleasure.
So, if you're going to use hdmi out, restarting should be part of the routine.
Is anybody else having a similar experience?
I voted a 4. I have seen smoother phones with lesser hardware. I'm rating the plain jane LG G8 with their software, not some launcher, and it has some jittery feel to it.
Would you say that the Samsung Galaxy S20 FE is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Samsung Galaxy S20 FE exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
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Good speed, but not as fast as the regular S20. I don't do any heavy gaming, but some apps open slightly slower with the FE. Reduced RAM?
Just bought it and quite disappointed with its battery and speed
Using a Dual-SIM Exynos FE 6/128: G780F/DS.
Speed is great so far, but this is my first modern "flagship" phone though, so can't really compare it to anything.
Screen on time is not great though. 4.5 hours after a week of use.
I have no issues thus far with speed
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Just bought it and quite disappointed with its battery and speed
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Do you have Exynos or Snapdragon?
very slow. I'm so disappointed. my note 10 was faster. despite the 120hz (which feels incredible) the inconsistency gives me literal actual nausea. the frame rate stays at 120hz for 0.2-0.5s at first during scrolling then drops down to 30-20fps... when I set it to 60hz it's obviously slower but i prefer it because it just feels more consistent. it's nicer on the eyes.. very sad and dissapointing.
AmyTheBun said:
very slow. I'm so disappointed. my note 10 was faster. despite the 120hz (which feels incredible) the inconsistency gives me literal actual nausea. the frame rate stays at 120hz for 0.2-0.5s at first during scrolling then drops down to 30-20fps... when I set it to 60hz it's obviously slower but i prefer it because it just feels more consistent. it's nicer on the eyes.. very sad and dissapointing.
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Do you have Exynos or Snapdragon?
It's 5g so I think it's snapdragon. My brother was the one who actually got it and said it but the package doesn't say 5g. The model number is G870f/ds. And had 128gb of storage and 8gb of ram
The major horrible lag went away after letting the phone sit on the table for some time. It was very new at the time. It still lags but it's usable now. It has the good old samsung/xiaomi (I never used a non samsung/xiaomi android phone since other phones are not available here) stuttering. When I scroll there's like 3-4 frames that daty stuck for 200-100ms. It's very noticable but nothing like the mess it was at first (I had literal nausea using it)
Is the snapdragon that much better really btw?
Overall the smoothness is nowhere near a 3 year old iphone x with 80% battery health (my brother uses his a ton.) But the higher refresh rate is sooo nice. It's hard to say which I prefer but the iphone feels better honestly
It's just sad to see a great 120hz panel ruined slightly by bad software
AmyTheBun said:
It's 5g so I think it's snapdragon
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Yes.
AmyTheBun said:
The major horrible lag went away after letting the phone sit on the table for some time. It was very new at the time.
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If you've just installed all the apps you're using on your new phone, of course it's going to take a few hours to days for everything to settle down, as well as a few other restarts. Then it only makes sense to comment on his behavior.
Installing everything you had on your previous phone at the same time is not the best course of action. By gradually adding one application at a time, you can more easily detect one that has a serious problem, for example, with the A11, or with the phone itself.
However, if you are lagging without installing other apps, something is completely wrong.
AmyTheBun said:
Is the snapdragon that much better really btw?
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Yes.
AmyTheBun said:
Overall the smoothness is nowhere near a 3 year old iphone x with 80% battery health (my brother uses his a ton.) But the higher refresh rate is sooo nice. It's hard to say which I prefer but the iphone feels better honestly
It's just sad to see a great 120hz panel ruined slightly by bad software
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Strange. For me, my new Samsung (Snapdragon 865, 6/128GB) is the smoothest phone I've ever had. My previous phone was Asus ZenFone 6 (Snapdragon 855, 6/128GB).
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Yes.
If you've just installed all the apps you're using on your new phone, of course it's going to take a few hours to days for everything to settle down, as well as a few other restarts. Then it only makes sense to comment on his behavior.
Plugging in everything you had on your previous phone at the same time is not the best course of action. By gradually adding one application at a time, you can more easily detect one that has a serious problem, for example, with the A11, or with the phone itself.
However, if you are lagging without installing other apps, something is completely wrong.
Yes.
Strange. For me, my new Samsung (Snapdragon 865, 6/128GB) is the smoothest phone I've ever had. My previous phone was Asus ZenFone 6 (Snapdragon 855, 6/128GB).
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I'm not sure what you mean by plugging but I installed cpu z and it's actually exynos ( it's been a day and a restart yesterday and honestly still. It lags but it's usable. I'll upload a video on youtube. If you're interested reply so I'll get a notification about it (it's gonna take a bit to upload)
Have you ever used a new iphone? Iphone x or newer. My iphone X was sooo smooth in comparison. Not to mention the far lower latency (input delay.) Overall the phone felt nicer on my eyes and brain to use despite the 60hz. But it wasn't as "fluid" as this one. But the consistency made up for it. And not to mention the thoughtful detailed animations that follow your fingers acceleration and speed etc.
I've been spoiled by an iphone x before and I'm quite sensitive to stutter tbh!
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this is the s20 fe. now that I see it in slow motion it's embarrassingly awful. I'm uploading a slow motion of proper 120hz without stutter too.
> I installed cpu z and it's actually exynos
Then this wasn't true and you only have the 4G version (SM-G780F):
> It's 5g so I think it's snapdragon
> The model number is G870f/ds
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> I installed cpu z and it's actually exynos
Then this wasn't true and you only have the 4G version (SM-G780F):
> It's 5g so I think it's snapdragon
> The model number is G870f/ds
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Yeah sadly the person at the store either made a mistake or lied to my brother. I wasn't there to confirm
But the video I attached shows the issues. It's outright embarrassing that samsung is this bad still. It takes actual skill to make such a fast processor this slow.
If you check my channel you can see what proper 120hz looks like in comparison. I was too lazy to attach the videos
activate your developer options @AmyTheBun by going to settings / about phone / software ...and tap on the build number 7 times in a row. this gives you an extra menu called developer options. inside that, near the top you'll see running services.
click running services after the phones has become slow and see what's using CPU and ram.
your phone performance is not normal. if it's not something like an old out of date app causing problems I'd take that phone back for a refund.
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activate your developer options @AmyTheBun by going to settings / about phone / software ...and tap on the build number 7 times in a row. this gives you an extra menu called developer options. inside that, near the top you'll see running services.
click running services after the phones has become slow and see what's using CPU and ram.
your phone performance is not normal. if it's not something like an old out of date app causing problems I'd take that phone back for a refund.
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smart pass was on the top. nothing special was using too many resources.
the video was in slow-motion btw.
oh and mine is exynos... we have no other choice where I live. not even a single snapdragon model!
I had the 5g version of the fe, it was complete **** so much it was slow. I instantly sold it back. Lots of stuttering, my old s9 was feeling faster (in Android). I then tried the 4g version of the s20 fe (exynos) and was surprised by how snappy it was. The menus where opening quickly, swaping between apps was a breeze. I was impressed.
So there sure is a rat under the carpet with Samsung, maybe software problems, maybe cpu/hardware/chipset problems, maybe both.
I have the 5G/Snapdragon version (recent firmware) and it's fast enough. The 120 Hz screen is smooth, all apps running smoothly including those with heavy JS graphics, which were garbage on my previous phone, A6.