What lag? - Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions and Answers

I've read and seen videos saying that they've noticed lag. What lag? I haven't had any lag whatsoever. Screen is super responsive and so are the buttons. Transitions are seamless, no stutter whatsoever playing Asphalt 8. I don't get it. I've had the phone since release day haven't put it down and haven't noticed the slightest stutter either.
Am I not understanding the meaning of lag? Am I one lucky bastard with a perfect device? Can anyone give me examples of lag?

mrnovanova said:
I've read and seen videos saying that they've noticed lag. What lag? I haven't had any lag whatsoever. Screen is super responsive and so are the buttons. Transitions are seamless, no stutter whatsoever playing Asphalt 8. I don't get it. I've had the phone since release day haven't put it down and haven't noticed the slightest stutter either.
Am I not understanding the meaning of lag? Am I one lucky bastard with a perfect device? Can anyone give me examples of lag?
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That's because we have exynos. Poor guys have slow snapdragon [emoji23] [emoji107]
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Brava27 said:
That's because we have exynos. Poor guys have slow snapdragon [emoji23] [emoji107]
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Lol. You kill me bruh But for real, isn't the SD 920 "better"? That's not my opinion but what I've heard.

There is no lag on the Snapdragon version either except in a few games. Moving around the UI is just as fast as the 6S+ I came from and Asphalt 8 runs as smooth as butter.
Where there is lag is in certain games like Hearthstone. The game just doesn't feel optimized for the phone. Some have said it's an issue with Marshmallow on Samsung devices with certain games. It just doesn't make sense since the Snapdragon version has the most powerful mobile GPU on the market.

mrnovanova said:
Lol. You kill me bruh But for real, isn't the SD 920 "better"? That's not my opinion but what I've heard.
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Everything I've read seems like SD and EX swap blows for who'se best. I can't play with the EX version though so what do I know (resident of the United States of Litigation).

mrnovanova said:
Lol. You kill me bruh But for real, isn't the SD 920 "better"? That's not my opinion but what I've heard.
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nop, it only have 1-4fps advantage over the GPU`s apart, everything else the exynos wins, hands down!

jrwingate6 said:
There is no lag on the Snapdragon version either except in a few games. Moving around the UI is just as fast as the 6S+ I came from and Asphalt 8 runs as smooth as butter.
Where there is lag is in certain games like Hearthstone. The game just doesn't feel optimized for the phone. Some have said it's an issue with Marshmallow on Samsung devices with certain games. It just doesn't make sense since the Snapdragon version has the most powerful mobile GPU on the market.
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If we're talking about specific games not being optimized it's not lag per say. My iPhone 6s would just freeze for a second while scrolling through pages. That's what I call lag. Not sure what those people are talking about. Thanks for the reference. I did see the hearthstone being mentioned.

I haven't noticed any lag and I'm a power user on an 820. I think people may have stutters here and there. But I haven't experienced that. I did on my s6 once in a blue, but haven't at all yet on the s7 edge.
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h3ck said:
I haven't noticed any lag and I'm a power user on an 820. I think people may have stutters here and there. But I haven't experienced that. I did on my s6 once in a blue, but haven't at all yet on the s7 edge.
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The only issues I had on my s6 edge and note 5 was redraw and it only happened with the samsung clock/weather widget. Besides I find that any potential launcher lag can be easily fixed by switching to Nova. Otherwise I haven't had any redraws since my note 5.

It seems that most people repoprting issues such as lag and hot phones have the Snapdragon variant. Not all of them though as some have reported having no issues.It's strange.

CuBz90 said:
It seems that most people repoprting issues such as lag and hot phones have the Snapdragon variant. Not all of them though as some have reported having no issues.It's strange.
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Not so strange when you consider the amount of devices built at different assembly locations. With the sheer number of devices being pumped out you're bound to have a lemon or two. What I don't get is people starting threads saying they're going back to Apple because the s7 edge is laggy af when they just had a faulty device. My note 4 had this weird lag and I brought it to the Samsung service center and they fixed it. My iPhone 6s had this weird stutter but I won't go around trashing the iPhone 6s cause it lags that's simply not true.

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Not so strange when you consider the amount of devices built at different assembly locations. With the sheer number of devices being pumped out you're bound to have a lemon or two. What I don't get is people starting threads saying they're going back to Apple because the s7 edge is laggy af when they just had a faulty device. My note 4 had this weird lag and I brought it to the Samsung service center and they fixed it. My iPhone 6s had this weird stutter but I won't go around trashing the iPhone 6s cause it lags that's simply not true.
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Ye most of them are just trolls.
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The only thing my S7 Edge has lagged doing was playing Hearthstone. Everything else runs good. If i return it, it won't be because of lag. It will be due to the horrible standby battery drain.

jrwingate6 said:
The only thing my S7 Edge has lagged doing was playing Hearthstone. Everything else runs good. If i return it, it won't be because of lag. It will be due to the horrible standby battery drain.
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Which is another perfect example, I have 0 battery issues. I've gone 1.5 days on my phone with power use. Compared to the s6, this battery is amazing.
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h3ck said:
Which is another perfect example, I have 0 battery issues. I've gone 1.5 days on my phone with power use. Compared to the s6, this battery is amazing.
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What can I say other than we both played the Samsung lottery and I lost.

jrwingate6 said:
What can I say other than we both played the Samsung lottery and I lost.
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Have you done the tried and true double factory reset and test with no post set up apps? I've found a lot of apps, including Facebook are horrendous with battery abuse. Just a thought.
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jrwingate6 said:
The only thing my S7 Edge has lagged doing was playing Hearthstone. Everything else runs good. If i return it, it won't be because of lag. It will be due to the horrible standby battery drain.
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What drain? I lose about 3% overnight. Between 11:30 and 3:30.

mrnovanova said:
What drain? I lose about 3% overnight. Between 11:30 and 3:30.
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Lucky you. I lose about 15% overnight with all my power getting sucked up by Android system, Android OS and Phone Idle.
I'm hoping this latest update from T-Mobile fixed the battery drain in standby mode. If not, I'll likely go back to the store and exchange it for another. They told me another shipment was coming in this weekend and they still have quite a few S7 Edges left in store.

jrwingate6 said:
Lucky you. I lose about 15% overnight with all my power getting sucked up by Android system, Android OS and Phone Idle.
I'm hoping this latest update from T-Mobile fixed the battery drain in standby mode. If not, I'll likely go back to the store and exchange it for another. They told me another shipment was coming in this weekend and they still have quite a few S7 Edges left in store.
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Whoa! 15% overnight. That sounds like the Google services leak from back in the note 4 days. Did you check the T-Mobile Q&A thread to see if anyone else is experiencing this?

mrnovanova said:
Whoa! 15% overnight. That sounds like the Google services leak from back in the note 4 days. Did you check the T-Mobile Q&A thread to see if anyone else is experiencing this?
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Yea. Looks like some are experiencing even more although this latest update seemed to improve things. I'll have to do some further testing to know for sure.
Yesterday though, it did look like something was leaking. I turned WiFi on and didn't do anything at all. I even set WiFi to sleep when the device was turned off yet somehow GSAM reported 9mb downloaded over WiFi and like I said, I didn't do anything at all with WiFi.

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Anyone returning their G2?

Is anyone unhappy with the G2 and returning it? If so, why are returning it and which device are you getting?
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I am extremely happy with mine. No way I am returning it. Are you considering taking yours back?
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I will be returning mine. After the initial honeymoon period of around 5 days, I'm starting to dislike a few things enough to return it.
1. External speaker is quite terrible, it's very quiet and they place it exactly where your hands rest when you're playing games so it mutes the sound completely.
2. Speaking of gaming, this phone has serious thermal and throttling issues. I can't play any of my graphic intensive games, MC4, NFS Most Wanted, or Asphalt series for more than 10-15 minutes. The phone would get burning hot and throttle itself to a crawl, I would need to exit and wait 10-20 minutes before I could play another 10-15 minutes of gaming.
3. Not a fan of the on screen buttons, it takes up part of the screen..again when gaming I would accidentally tap it many times exiting me out of my game at the worst time.
4. Camera recording, I can't tap to focus during recording like I could on any of my other phones. HTC One, S4, Note II, iPhone ect. Sometimes I would be stuck recording a blur image for the first 5-10 seconds before it automatically tries to focus. 1080p 60 frames per second recording seems to only work in outdoor light or very good lighting, once you go indoors it records at like 5-10 frames per second.
5. Knock on is very inconsistent, I would have to double tap the screen 4 or 5 times sometimes to get it to register while it's sleeping.
I'm going to use the Note 3 for a while to see how that baby works. Really sad to see the G2 go, I had high hopes and a great initial impressions of it at first.
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I am extremely happy with mine. No way I am returning it. Are you considering taking yours back?
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Awesome. I have overall liked this phone very much and I just dumped my S4 over the weekend, so not sure what I would get even if I did return it lol.
So to answer your question, I'm keeping it. But if I can't figure out my battery drain issues, I will strongly consider returning it.
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Jury is still out. I don't game much, but I was playing Hex Defense (old tower defense game) and when objects really started to fly around the screen, it started to drag ass pretty bad. Not at all what I was expecting.
Even though I'm returning the G2, there are a few things I loved and will miss.
When not throttled the phone is a complete monster. Easily the fastest phone I've used by far.
I love the web browser, super fast and smooth. Signal strength still amazes me. Battery life is second to none. The screen and form factor is perfect. Oh and what a screen! It still takes my breath away. Camera in low light is awesome, daylight shots are the best.
Maybe im just too picky.
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Awesome. I have overall liked this phone very much and I just dumped my S4 over the weekend, so not sure what I would get even if I did return it lol.
So to answer your question, I'm keeping it. But if I can't figure out my battery drain issues, I will strongly consider returning it.
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A friend is having serious battery problems also, still trying to nail down what's causing it. He has disabled the apps that were keeping awake the most, even disabled gps, wifi location and the find my phone thing. He's lucky to get 8 hrs
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What gives with the bad gaming preformance? I thought this phone was built with graphic intensive tasks in mind by implementing GRAM and the snapdragon 800 should more than be able to handle it, no? Is it maybe because apps aren't written to utilize GRAM currently?
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What gives with the bad gaming preformance? I thought this phone was built with graphic intensive tasks in mind by implementing GRAM and the snapdragon 800 should more than be able to handle it, no? Is it maybe because apps aren't written to utilize GRAM currently?
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Sounds like thermal throttling, something that plagued the N4 as well.
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Sounds like thermal throttling, something that plagued the N4 as well.
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Is that something that can be overcame with software
I like the phone... even though a few things annoy me. love the stock launcher but the redraw makes it lag every time you go back.
I hate how laggy the drop down menu is on the lock screen too. god its awful lol
but anyway I have no reason to return it. the only other phone I'd want is the htc one but I doubt I could go down in screen size. seems like a nice phone but eh I hate blink feed and how non customizable the launcher is... and besides I still have a dna lol
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I haven't decided yet.
Reasons I want to return it:
Non-AMOLED display: I can see it flickering and the black contrast sucks comparatively.
Camera software needs some major help versus Samsung's TouchWiz camera
Lack of external storage, though I may order an OTG cable
CarrierIQ
Reasons I want to keep it: Snapdragon 800
I still have a Lumia 925 and an S4, and the S4 wouldn't be a terrible phone to go back to as my daily driver. But this Snapdragon 800 is noticeably quicker.
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Is that something that can be overcame with software
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With a kernel it can be.
Hell no. Loving it now that I have rooted it and killed all the bloat. Definitely a keeper for me for the next year.
It's worst feature (to me) is the shiny plastic back, which is at least fixable. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447349
I will be keeping it, but that doesn't mean i won't get rid of it if another maker improves on this design (battery, bezel)
I remember when upgrading from the Thunderbolt to the s3 it was like nice, I finally have a nice phone but this phone is just something different. I am not one to get excited about things but i thoroughly enjoy looking at the phone, picking it up, holding it and turning it on.
I'm not picky enough with the camera. I think it does wonderfully and will only get better as the phone matures (development)
I'm not picky with the screen changing what appears to be colors (probably also can be fixed).
Sure there are a few nuances like the knock knock not always working but honestly as far as perfect goes for me, this phone currently is it. Will it get better? I hope so.
Speakers are better than the s3 so thats a plus even though i dont use them. Although, watching youtube videos i do agree the speaker placement is a little weird but that is easily remedied by shifting your hands slightly. I would assume the same for gaming, which i don't really do much of since i play PC games.
Anything can be picked apart. Its really all about how much you can tolerate.
I think I might send mine back for now, till the bootloader gets unlocked and I can have slimrom back. I picked up my n4 today and its just so much faster/smoother.
Will miss the battery life however but my n4 gets me through the day %90 of the time.
Darkestred said:
Anything can be picked apart. Its really all about how much you can tolerate.
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I like the phone alot and have very few issues, none of which can't be overcome. This last part of your post truly says it all. No phone is perfect!!
randyspants said:
I think I might send mine back for now, till the bootloader gets unlocked and I can have slimrom back. I picked up my n4 today and its just so much faster/smoother.
Will miss the battery life however but my n4 gets me through the day %90 of the time.
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N4 isnt 4G, is it?
Keeping mine!!!!! Love the stock launcher and all the stock apps, text/email. Phone is quick and snappy everywhere. I rooted it and removed VZW crap and it flies. The only drawback of this phone, to me, is no SD card. Batt life is great....wireless charging, screen size is perfect. Wish I had a white one..wish the back was flat color, but it's not enough to return. There's no phone out there now that can compete. I left an S4 for it and it crushes that lag bag. The Note 3 will be too large for me, so not even an option.
chrisexv6 said:
N4 isnt 4G, is it?
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No it's not however I will be moving to India in a couple months so that won't matter to me soon.

1 week in... And I'm losing faith. Fast. - Updated.

9 Days ago, I made the decision to switch networks due to Sprint's inability to handle MMS, data, signal, calls, or anything else. I walked into a T-Mobile store, and after a brief credit check, I was told I can choose any phone I'd like. My original intent was to hang onto my Nexus 5, which I absolutely loved, but I was told I was required to get a new phone. I wasn't exactly upset knowing I'd be getting a new phone, so I walked over to the displays and struggled for over 20 minutes trying to decide which phone to get. I eventually whittled my choices down to two phones. The LG G3 and the HTC One M9. After a bit of research and test driving, I chose the HTC One M9.
It is a seriously nice phone. The materials used to craft this baby are top notch, and definitely give the impression of quality. I very much like the way it looks and sounds, and even though it could be unwieldy to hold (slippery), I got around that issue by slapping a nice Spigen case on it. HTC's Uh Oh protection is a nice touch and the specifications are equally as impressive, which helped sell this phone to me. The thought of a 64-bit 8-core CPU was exciting.
It's my first flagship phone; everything should be impressive. And yet, I'm kind of not impressed. My two main complaints about this phone are the button placement (I think having the power button and volume buttons on the same side of the phone and right next to each other is kind of silly, then again, my N5 wasn't like that, so I could just be used to that layout. ) and the performance. Yes, you heard me, the performance. I don't even care about the joke of a camera this thing has, it's really the performance of the cutting-edge octacore CPU that they slapped in this thing that really frustrates me. Out of the box, this phone comes underclocked due to overheating issues. That, to me, is downright laughable. Did anyone at HTC test this phone? A flagship device whose performance is throttled from the moment you turn it on. That's like buying a Corvette straight from the dealer, starting up the car and finding out that Chevy disabled two of the cylinders in the engine to ensure it didn't overheat. It's not just the thought of this that bugs me, the performance of the phone is actually terrible at times. My Nexus 5, given it was running a 5.1.1 ROM, was butter smooth in all but the most complicated of situations. This phone, however, limited to a paltry 1.5GHz and another cluster that is slow to wake up and help out, struggles with some truly mundane tasks. For example, swiping to my Google Now Cards is laggy, loading Google Messenger is choppy and slow. Scrolling, in general, is almost never smooth. I've tried different ROMs, Kernels, and governors but can never really find a nice balance between performance and battery life. The CPU is ALWAYS up to something too. Even when the screen is off. My Nexus 5 would achieve, regularly, about 70-75% Deep Sleep throughout the course of a day. It sipped battery. This phone achieves, on a normal day, about 60-65%. Thankfully it has a larger battery than the N5, otherwise I seriously doubt it'd last as long.
Overall it's been bittersweet experience. I really like this phone, I want to love it, but I can't. I realize that this device is still in its infancy and HTC can roll out updates to hopefully iron out some of these problems. I also realize that the community for this phone is also in its infancy, and that down the road, there may be terrific alternatives to Sense 7 and the Stock Kernel. But I have 5 days left, and the idea of swapping this phone out for something better is slowly starting to grow on me. I've been toying with the idea of getting an Xperia Z3 or LG G3 instead. It'll cost me $50 to swap the M9 out for a different phone. On the other hand, my mind is telling me to be patient and that it'll work out in time with this phone. So I turn to you. Anyone else share the same frustrations with me? What do you think I should do? Should I wait or should I swap this baby out for something else?
UPDATE June 8th 2015:
I went to the T-Mobile store the day after posting this. I researched and thought long and hard about the decision I had to make. After a while I came to the conclusion that I would be paying $50 (Restocking fee) to essentially downgrade to another device. In fact, the only other flagship device that even appeals to me at this point is the LG G4, which seems to be getting along as well as the S6 and One M9 have been (from what I've read). Thanks to recommendations from others in the community, I made some changes that have greatly improved my experience with this device. I'm still not a huge fan of Sense 7 nor am I astonished by the Camera's performance, but a new launcher restored much of the stock Android feel and an upcoming firmware update promises to improve the camera. Performance while multitasking is fantastic and while there are a few hiccups here and there, I can't say my experience is any worse than what it was with my Nexus 5. The Battery life, a common complaint from others about this phone, is fantastic in my eyes. It's nice to sometimes forget about charging my phone at night, waking up the next morning and still having enough juice to get me into the afternoon.
Overall, I've only recently concluded that I did not give this device a fair chance for as long as I should've. Coming from my Nexus 5, the change was a bit of a shock. I suppose that played into my initial disappointment. I'm actually starting to fall in love with this phone. Compliments and exclamations of wonder and impact are common from others that I let check out my phone, even from die-hard iPhone fans, which is always nice. I figured that I should update this thread because I see the conversation still continues. No phone is without its flaws, my beloved N5 was hardly without its own. Many "flaws" are a matter of perspective. I'm confident I've made the right choice with this device, and I look forward to the bright future that lies in store for it (please God, give me an AOSP ROM).
ps. The 1.5 clock only applies to the A53 cores. I'm sure people more technically inclined and chime in and confirm this.
I've had nothing but smooth operation on this phone. I am on Leedroid at the moment, but was on international stock rom before and was just as smooth.
I'd be looking as to why you are experiencing the performance issues, and if you're not happy, I'm sure the consumer protection laws in the US allow you to return it for something else?
Best of luck
You are in the 14 day window go an return it
Go get your nexus 5 back or talk to someone who isn't trying to hose you into buying a new phone.
https://support.t-mobile.com/message/389200
Granted I don't know if the specs on your phone didn't match up to what was described in this link, Or if you had it leased.
Alcolawl said:
My Nexus 5, given it was running a 5.1.1 ROM, was butter smooth in all but the most complicated of situations. This phone, however, limited to a paltry 1.5GHz and another cluster that is slow to wake up and help out, struggles with some truly mundane tasks. For example, swiping to my Google Now Cards is laggy, loading Google Messenger is choppy and slow. Scrolling, in general, is almost never smooth. I've tried different ROMs, Kernels, and governors but can never really find a nice balance between performance and battery life. The CPU is ALWAYS up to something too. Even when the screen is off. My Nexus 5 would achieve, regularly, about 70-75% Deep Sleep throughout the course of a day. It sipped battery. This phone achieves, on a normal day, about 60-65%. Thankfully it has a larger battery than the N5, otherwise I seriously doubt it'd last as long.
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Yeah, I've noticed the lag when swiping to the goole now screen. I'm confident that performance will be better when they give us 5.1, which by then they'll have figured out how to best optimize S810. Best to test out your options, you might even want to consider the M8 which has GPE 5.1 ROMS ready for it. That phone performs and has excellent battery life.
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Yeah, I've noticed the lag when swiping to the goole now screen. I'm confident that performance will be better when they give us 5.1, which by then they'll have figured out how to best optimize S810. Best to test out your options, you might even want to consider the M8 which has GPE 5.1 ROMS ready for it. That phone performs and has excellent battery life.
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Have you installed the xposed fix memory leak apk? That may help with lag on 5.0.x
BUBBA DUB'S said:
Have you installed the xposed fix memory leak apk? That may help with lag on 5.0.x
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Yeah I have (doesn't it only fix that off screen animation bug?). The lag when scrolling to the google now screen affects my M8 as well if I recall correctly.
Cryosx said:
Yeah I have (doesn't it only fix that off screen animation bug?). The lag when scrolling to the google now screen affects my M8 as well if I recall correctly.
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I thought it reduced the over all RAM usage from the system over a prolonged period of time. I thought that might affect lag overall on the phone, but I could be mistaken. I haven't experienced any lag on my device yet so I was just throwing out ideas.
Have you tried rooting and putting leedroid on it. It's a beast. No lag. No stutter. Smooth
I never experienced any lags except when gaming during charging the battery with a speed charger.
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BUBBA DUB'S said:
I thought it reduced the over all RAM usage from the system over a prolonged period of time. I thought that might affect lag overall on the phone, but I could be mistaken. I haven't experienced any lag on my device yet so I was just throwing out ideas.
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Same, lag isn't a problem except for when using google now launcher and swiping to the left for the google now screen. It's minor, but annoying nonetheless. For the OP who was used to the Nexus 5's smoothness it's probably extremely noticeable.
Cryosx said:
Same, lag isn't a problem except for when using google now launcher and swiping to the left for the google now screen. It's minor, but annoying nonetheless. For the OP who was used to the Nexus 5's smoothness it's probably extremely noticeable.
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True, I actually got rid of google now because it was annoying me every time my phone slipped out of my hand and started it. I still am hopeful knowing the m9 should get multiple updates in the future and run 5.1.
dondavis007 said:
I never experienced any lags except when gaming during charging the battery with a speed charger.
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why would you game while charging the s810 is power hungry i would be careful not killing my battery this way
reubenskelly1992 said:
Have you tried rooting and putting leedroid on it. It's a beast. No lag. No stutter. Smooth
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Wont make a difference, its the phone to blame to for now. I got 2 devices both same problems at times and tried everything for it, the roms run fine but battery life still bad and weird charging problems for me
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Wont make a difference, its the phone to blame to for now. I got 2 devices both same problems at times and tried everything for it, the roms run fine but battery life still bad and weird charging problems for me
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Weird
hamdir said:
why would you game while charging the s810 is power hungry i would be careful not killing my battery this way
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Because I only gaming before going to bed. Look at my sig and guess if I keep it long enough to notice
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Because I only gaming before going to bed. Look at my sig and guess if I keep it long enough to notice
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still you are brute forcing the M9 into throttling its GPU this way and about the best thing on the M9 is actually gaming speed thanks to it's very powerful GPU
Coming from a M8, at first i was a little frustrated for the overheating and the camera of the M9. But then, neither the m7 or m8 were great cameras.
I read a lot of reviews and even started thinking of selling the M9 but swap for what? S6 ? God no, please, no more touchwiz. Lg,i had the lg3 and it was L(a)G and slow, much slower than the M8 (i know, different screen's resolution). So, in the end, i prefer keep the M9, the camera improve a lot with the update, and many more updates will come.
Then, there is sense 7, sense is one of my favourites android skins. Light, smart and very, very fast. I absolutely have no lag in M9 (all stock). And i use a lot blinkfeed, i missed it in any non Htc phone. And there is the boomsound, the touch to awake screen...
When you say you have lag with Google Now cards, I'm assuming you are using the Google Launcher. I have noticed some lag here and there with the Google launcher, but the stock Sense launcher performs admirably. It's quick and never seems to drop frames when gaming either. How did you leave the phone stock before you started flashing different ROMs to it? I think that may actually be the issue. Every review of the M9 has stated that the phone is smooth and HTC's software is better than ever. Messing with the software may be what's causing the poor experience.
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why would you game while charging the s810 is power hungry i would be careful not killing my battery this way
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I occassionally play a round of Boom Beach, Clash of Clans or Limbo while the phone is on the charger. Can you elaborate a bit on how this could "kill the battery"? Is it related to charging while the GPU is cranking up the thermals?
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When you say you have lag with Google Now cards, I'm assuming you are using the Google Launcher. I have noticed some lag here and there with the Google launcher, but the stock Sense launcher performs admirably. It's quick and never seems to drop frames when gaming either. How did you leave the phone stock before you started flashing different ROMs to it? I think that may actually be the issue. Every review of the M9 has stated that the phone is smooth and HTC's software is better than ever. Messing with the software may be what's causing the poor experience.
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I'm using the stock Sense launcher and my phone is buttery smooth. While I don't use the Google Now Launcher, Google Now performs great on this phone.
All of the games that I play are also super smooth. Granted, I don't play games that demand a high frame rate, but those games that I do play are far smoother on this phone than my old M7.
The one issue I had with the phone was what seemed like spotty issues with wifi. I did a cache partition wipe yesterday and it seems to have helped the issue.

GearVR - SGS7 Edge overheating

I'm using the GearVR which I've got for the SGS6 Edge (works well with the SGS7 as well).
I do get messages while using it, that my phone is heating up and that I should disconnect my SGS7 and let it cool down before continuing.
Did anyone try to use the SGS7 Edge with GearVR? Are you facing the same issue?
Chipsets have auto-shutdown to make sure it's not damaged.
gilbnx said:
I'm using the GearVR which I've got for the SGS6 Edge (works well with the SGS7 as well).
I do get messages while using it, that my phone is heating up and that I should disconnect my SGS7 and let it cool down before continuing.
Did anyone try to use the SGS7 Edge with GearVR? Are you facing the same issue?
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Noticed the same observation made on the Oculus/Gear VR forums. Here is his words exactly. I was hoping that all that heat pipe talk allowed the phone to operate for longer periods.
"- Heating is still an issue - after 30 or so minutes of heavy use and downloading various apps and games I received a warning that I need to coll down the phone for optimal performance. However, unlike with S6 I did not notice any slowdown in performance when the phone overheated. "
https://forums.oculus.com/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=30325
cdmoore74 said:
Noticed the same observation made on the Oculus/Gear VR forums. Here is his words exactly. I was hoping that all that heat pipe talk allowed the phone to operate for longer periods.
"- Heating is still an issue - after 30 or so minutes of heavy use and downloading various apps and games I received a warning that I need to coll down the phone for optimal performance. However, unlike with S6 I did not notice any slowdown in performance when the phone overheated. "
https://forums.oculus.com/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=30325
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Right, I didn't notice any degradation in performance but at some point it didn't let me continue at all; I really had to take it out and let it rest. Given all the promotions and announcements, one would think they have made this solution work for more than 15-20min before the phone heats up and needs to rest... I hope for Samsung that updates will come out soon to better optimize the software and avoid the overheating problems.
I had the same issue for my Note 4 Gear. That's why I am selling the Gear once I get it, not even worth it if you can't watch a full movie through it..
Did you leave the outside lid off? I heard that helps.
Samsung needs to just release a cover with built-in fans. The people who added fans to the cover themselves said it fixed the problem.
I also had the same problem.what should I want to do I don't know Exactly
This doesn't sound good. I wanted the Gear VR specifically for watching movies in private
CuBz90 said:
This doesn't sound good. I wanted the Gear VR specifically for watching movies in private
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I may be mistaken, but I think the issue mainly arises when playing games as that pushes the gpu much harder.
Xileforce said:
I may be mistaken, but I think the issue mainly arises when playing games as that pushes the gpu much harder.
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I hope so. I don't play games much so that wouldn't be an issue for me.
I wonder if the Exynos model handles this better. I was told in the Samsung shop on Sunday that the GearVR demo model I tried had been in use all day and there was a queue if people waiting to use it behind me and my son as well. Fingers crossed.
So much for watercooling I guess.
It was always a PR gimmick.
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It was always a PR gimmick.
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To be fair. My snapdragon version definitely runs noticeably cooler side by side doing the same tasks as my s6
Beefheart said:
I wonder if the Exynos model handles this better. I was told in the Samsung shop on Sunday that the GearVR demo model I tried had been in use all day and there was a queue if people waiting to use it behind me and my son as well. Fingers crossed.
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I went into a Samsung store and it was quite empty so I had a free roam of the S7 and Edge. I did see the Gear VR just sat there but didn't reallt think to try it out. I wish I had.
Quick way to cool it down, throw it in an ice bucket for 30 seconds. That's some real liquid cooling
mklass said:
Quick way to cool it down, throw it in an ice bucket for 30 seconds. That's some real liquid cooling
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Brilliant!! :laugh:
mklass said:
Quick way to cool it down, throw it in an ice bucket for 30 seconds. That's some real liquid cooling
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Great way to personalize the glass on the phone to. Nothing is as unique as a crack.
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_Dennis_ said:
Great way to personalize the glass on the phone to. Nothing is as unique as a crack.
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I think he was joking
_Dennis_ said:
Great way to personalize the glass on the phone to. Nothing is as unique as a crack.
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Lol, I wonder if that would actually happen. Will be a good test that.
I've had a boiling hot pint glass run under a freezing cold tap a few times and never witnessed and cracking, I'm sure if a pint pot can hold up gorilla glass 4 should.
As I say would be a good test for some one to do.
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I think he was joking
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At least you get my sarcasm that will do me haha

The lag is Unreal

Anyone else phone just not smooth at all? I'm on latest 7.0 and my phone is so slow for a phone with these internals. I don't get it. Is there something I'm doing wrong. This phone all around has severally disappointed me. My edge is so slow that it makes the iPhone seem fast. What do I do? Seems like memory management is still poor and this processor was weak, I would have been happier with an 8 core exynos vs 4 core snap 821
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Anyone else phone just not smooth at all? I'm on latest 7.0 and my phone is so slow for a phone with these internals. I don't get it. Is there something I'm doing wrong. This phone all around has severally disappointed me. My edge is so slow that it makes the iPhone seem fast. What do I do? Seems like memory management is still poor and this processor was weak, I would have been happier with an 8 core exynos vs 4 core snap 821
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It's a Samsung with Samsung bloatware.. It's going to always have lag unfortunately. I've had almost every major Android phone since the HTC Hero that includes iPhone as well and Samsung is constantly the laggiest although my S7 edge has been pretty good still no where near an iPhone or pixel
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Try downloading package disabler pro and disabling some crapware
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brandoncheney05 said:
It's a Samsung with Samsung bloatware.. It's going to always have lag unfortunately. I've had almost every major Android phone since the HTC Hero that includes iPhone as well and Samsung is constantly the laggiest although my S7 edge has been pretty good still no where near an iPhone or pixel
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Try downloading package disabler pro and disabling some crapware
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Thanks for reply and suggestions! I've disabled a ton of stuff and it doesn't matter lol. I may trade this one in for an s8 or iPhone 7 plus. I really hate iPhones as I've had several of them and a ton of Android phones. The fact that we can't really mod this phone and run different ROMs made it dead on arrival. I guess I could try a different launcher again and maybe turn off all animations.
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Thanks for reply and suggestions! I've disabled a ton of stuff and it doesn't matter lol. I may trade this one in for an s8 or iPhone 7 plus. I really hate iPhones as I've had several of them and a ton of Android phones. The fact that we can't really mod this phone and run different ROMs made it dead on arrival. I guess I could try a different launcher again and maybe turn off all animations.
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That's what I did! Nova and 0 animations is a huge improvement. I'm considering trading my S7 Edge for a Moto G5 Plus next Friday just to ditch bloatware
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That's what I did! Nova and 0 animations is a huge improvement. I'm considering trading my S7 Edge for a Moto G5 Plus next Friday just to ditch bloatware
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That wouldn't be a bad idea. I was trying to hold off to see what new phones sprint gets in a month or 2 but it's driving me nuts with this phone. Google really killed my dreams by not getting the pixel and XL to all carriers.
kennypow3rs said:
That wouldn't be a bad idea. I was trying to hold off to see what new phones sprint gets in a month or 2 but it's driving me nuts with this phone. Google really killed my dreams by not getting the pixel and XL to all carriers.
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I'm on Sprint as well and know what you mean but you can still use the unlocked pixel on Sprint at least but hopefully next one won't be a Verizon exclusive
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kennypow3rs said:
Thanks for reply and suggestions! I've disabled a ton of stuff and it doesn't matter lol. I may trade this one in for an s8 or iPhone 7 plus. I really hate iPhones as I've had several of them and a ton of Android phones. The fact that we can't really mod this phone and run different ROMs made it dead on arrival. I guess I could try a different launcher again and maybe turn off all animations.
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If the S8 is anything like the Note 7, I'll gladly move to it. I'll pay the fee to get rid of the S7E and move to the S8Plus.
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If the S8 is anything like the Note 7, I'll gladly move to it. I'll pay the fee to get rid of the S7E and move to the S8Plus.
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Supposedly Samsung is going to sell 4.3 million refurbished Note 7s in the USA that has slight smaller battery capacity at a discounted price. if sprint gets their hands on some to lease out that would be dope. I'd either get that or just move to the s8. I hate the 4 core snapdragon 821 it's so ass...
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Supposedly Samsung is going to sell 4.3 million refurbished Note 7s in the USA that has slight smaller battery capacity at a discounted price. if sprint gets their hands on some to lease out that would be dope. I'd either get that or just move to the s8. I hate the 4 core snapdragon 821 it's so ass...
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Hadn't heard about that, looked it up, sadly it appears we're not going to get it in the US.
https://www.technobuffalo.com/2017/03/28/samsung-wont-release-a-refurbished-galaxy-note-7-in-the-us/
Only thing about the S8+ I won't like is the lack of a stylus. Tomorrows the revealing IIRC so I'll be anxious to see if that changes. I really wish it would and the bigger phone gets a stylus.
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Hadn't heard about that, looked it up, sadly it appears we're not going to get it in the US.
https://www.technobuffalo.com/2017/03/28/samsung-wont-release-a-refurbished-galaxy-note-7-in-the-us/
Only thing about the S8+ I won't like is the lack of a stylus. Tomorrows the revealing IIRC so I'll be anxious to see if that changes. I really wish it would and the bigger phone gets a stylus.
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So no Note 7 refurb in the US? Wow that's weak. That article I saw was a bit misleading I guess. It made it seem like world wide they would sell. I'm sure the refurbs will probably land on eBay but that's a full price phone is rather lease. Well, here's to hoping the s8 and s8+ live up to the hype since other Android​ OEMs aren't technically iPhone killers. Samsung is but they definitely suck in everything but hardware...
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Supposedly Samsung is going to sell 4.3 million refurbished Note 7s in the USA that has slight smaller battery capacity at a discounted price. if sprint gets their hands on some to lease out that would be dope. I'd either get that or just move to the s8. I hate the 4 core snapdragon 821 it's so ass...
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S7 Edge has the 820, not the 821, even though the only difference between the 2 is like a 10% increase in performance due to slightly higher clock speeds in the cores & gpu. What you are experiencing man is typical Samsung lag due to all of the damn bloat on the device. I've been using a HTC 10 the past couple weeks that I bought from someone on Let Go for only $200 due to the misses breaking her Moto X Pure. I gave her my S7 Edge to use until she upgrades to the S8+ next month & was going to resume using my Edge then but nope not now! The 820 is very smooth & efficient on here with virtually no lag at all & also I'm fully rooted. Only thing I miss is using Samsung Pay & earning reward points but that's only a small sacrifice, besides I can still use Android Pay & while rooted too thanks to Magisk & if I need to return to stock for any reason I don't have to worry about no stupid KNOX crippling core features on the phone & driving down its resale value. My S7 Edge will be going up for sale!
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Have you tried turning 2 of your cores off? I'm sure that would significantly help you with your extensive battery drainage.
godpowerrr said:
Have you tried turning 2 of your cores off? I'm sure that would significantly help you with your extensive battery drainage.
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Turn off 2 of 4 cores? That would make the lag even worse. With 4 cores this phones lag is horrible I couldn't imagine only using 2 cores ie power save etc lol.
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Turn off 2 of 4 cores? That would make the lag even worse. With 4 cores this phones lag is horrible I couldn't imagine only using 2 cores ie power save etc lol.
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Wow. You're mistaken. Try rooting and applying govtuner or you can continue to suffer haha
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godpowerrr said:
Wow. You're mistaken. Try rooting and applying govtuner or you can continue to suffer haha
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Nah, I'm not rooting this phone unless I can run stock Android over Samsung's laggy POS rom. No point. I won't be suffering for long, I'll probably just give sprint this one back when s8 launches. This phone sucks.
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Nah, I'm not rooting this phone unless I can run stock Android over Samsung's laggy POS rom. No point. I won't be suffering for long, I'll probably just give sprint this one back when s8 launches. This phone sucks.
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If you put forth the effort to eliminate the constant issues you're having, because its possible, then you wouldn't be so stressed and irritated. If you're holding on to it for a while, why not tweak it instead of doing absolutely nothing. :cyclops:
kennypow3rs said:
Nah, I'm not rooting this phone unless I can run stock Android over Samsung's laggy POS rom. No point. I won't be suffering for long, I'll probably just give sprint this one back when s8 launches. This phone sucks.
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Have you gone through and checked which apps could be causing the lag? (Facebook comes to mind)! I haven't rooted either and my phone has no lag. It's almost always some app that's draining resources.
The lag culprit has been found!!!
Just as I expected, the lag is do to thermal throttling. I get extremely low benchmark scores, like a little over half what I should be getting. Ran the benchmark programs with my phone in a cup of icewater.. My scores doubled.
I am on a S7 Edge 7.0 rooted android. How can I change my thermal throttling settings? Is there a script or a program to address this?
3D Mark Sling Shot Extreme Android benchmark test results:
No ice: 1549 (I got around this number every time without ice)
With ice: 2627
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Ran the benchmark programs with my phone in a cup of icewater.. My scores doubled.
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This just made me LOL ?
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Developer option to fix laggggg.
I found an option in developer options that seems to help a lot. It is called do not keep activities. These seems to help keep the ui from clogging up with old worthless data which seems to slow android or at least samsung phones down to the point you have to reset them. I am typing right now like it's an iPhone. I have a galaxy s6 currently but I doubt it has changed. The developer options has to be enabled and if memory serves you tap 7 times on the software info so.ew here in the settings. I am sure it's easily found on the net. Hope this helps.

Galaxy S8 (European Exynos) - performance - scroll stuttering

Hi,
I'm really disappointed, I got my brand new s8 yesterday, and it looks and feels amazing like really really great.
Sadely it stutters a lot after a few swipes scrolling down in many apps, most disappointing were Instagram and Fenix, two perfectly smooth apps on my Pixel.
Is my device defective? What's your experience?
I think I 'm going to return it though
Best,
Dreadk
Instagram feels fine while scrolling ... even fast scrolling is good.
Maybe your Inet connection bandwidth?
My s8 stutters. I have no lag in instagram. Samsung browser lags a lot, also apparant on xda-dev forum site. My s7 edge never stuttered, it's buttery smooth. Both devices are Exynos. I am contemplating about returning it and sticking to my galaxy s7 edge. Batterylife also is worse than my s7 edge. On my s7 edge, I averaged at around 1000-1500mAh used for the battery. On my s8, I averaged at around 800-900mAh....
My phone is always warm, Android System is also quite high at about 10% when the display is at 40%. I am not happy with the S8. My s7 edge is much louder with dualspeakermod as well. The s8 has a very very weak earpiece speaker, so dualspeakermod won't be amazing at all.
Rear-facing camera favours retaining highlights on the s8. On the s7 edge it always wants to up the shadows. S8 camera has less noise but it's nothing special compared to my s7 edge.
Front facing camera is nice on the s8...but the autofocus is a pain in the ass. On the s7 edge, focus is always perfect due to fixed focus. On s7 edge, sometimes it needs refocus and can result in blurred image....
I got a 500Mb fiber and my Pixel on the same wifi scrolls smoothly anyway.
Wish it could be a simple fix like that ^^
Wow looks like you have much more complaints than I do, anyway I didn't test the phone further, smooth scrolling is one on my most wanted feature ; so I stopped digging deeper.
Why no reviewer did notice this stuff though?
I remember it was the same with iPhone 7 stuttering everywhere (10.3 greatly improved that recently, but too late).
Guys,
How are you installing your apps?
Are you doing a transfer from old phone to S8?
Sometimes installing apps fresh is best. Also double check your settings.
I usually use Nova Launcher so will see what the stock launcher is like for a day or two and then decide if Nova will be better.
I did a transfer first and then two factory reset installs (only installing instagram and fenix) because I couldn't believe it
I wonder if it's not an Exynos only problem, I suspect Samsung might have optimized the snapdragon / US version much more than the European one; US market is way more important I guess.
Any clue about that?
choccy31 said:
I usually use Nova Launcher so will see what the stock launcher is like for a day or two and then decide if Nova will be better.
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Nova launcher works fine
Dreadk said:
I did a transfer first and then two factory reset installs (only installing instagram and fenix) because I couldn't believe it
I wonder if it's not an Exynos only problem, I suspect Samsung might have optimized the snapdragon / US version much more than the European one; US market is way more important I guess.
Any clue about that?
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I have the US Verizon variant and mine lags a lot. Tons of jank when simply pulling down the Notification Shade. Very disappointed. Doesn't matter whether I run the TW or GN launchers; both do the same thing. For having a SnapDragon 835 and a truckload of RAM, I expected it to be very smooth. I've tried turning down the display to just HD and that didn't make any difference at all.
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I have the US Verizon variant and mine lags a lot. Tons of jank when simply pulling down the Notification Shade. Very disappointed. Doesn't matter whether I run the TW or GN launchers; both do the same thing. For having a SnapDragon 835 and a truckload of RAM, I expected it to be very smooth. I've tried turning down the display to just HD and that didn't make any difference at all.
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I have a US GS8 on VZW and I actually feel this is the smoothest device I've ever used. I'm coming (back to Android after a mini break) from an iPhone 7 Plus and in some places the GS8 is smoother and more fluid than the iPhone. It's way better than what Android used to be.
Maybe there's an app or something running in the background?
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I have a US GS8 on VZW and I actually feel this is the smoothest device I've ever used. I'm coming (back to Android after a mini break) from an iPhone 7 Plus and in some places the GS8 is smoother and more fluid than the iPhone. It's way better than what Android used to be.
Maybe there's an app or something running in the background?
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I thought that too but this did it right out of the box before I even started loading apps. I'd love to figure out what's wrong. Considered doing an FDR just for the sake of doing it before I get too comfortable with the initial setup, as I know I'm lazy and will put it off. I mean could I have a CPU disabled or something? I guess I could contact Samsung support but I'm assuming they are going to be swamped for the next couple of weeks... but need an answer before my return window comes up.
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I have the US Verizon variant and mine lags a lot. Tons of jank when simply pulling down the Notification Shade. Very disappointed. Doesn't matter whether I run the TW or GN launchers; both do the same thing. For having a SnapDragon 835 and a truckload of RAM, I expected it to be very smooth. I've tried turning down the display to just HD and that didn't make any difference at all.
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I have a US GS8 on VZW and I actually feel this is the smoothest device I've ever used. I'm coming (back to Android after a mini break) from an iPhone 7 Plus and in some places the GS8 is smoother and more fluid than the iPhone. It's way better than what Android used to be.
Maybe there's an app or something running in the background?
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As I said, I factory reset two times, only installing instagram and fenix after initial setup and without modifying any option. No luck
Maybe I got a defective unit.
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Why no reviewer did notice this stuff though?
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Because everyone configures their phone differently and the likely cause of these random issues isn't the phone it's some combination of user specific apps and settings.
Dreadk said:
I did a transfer first and then two factory reset installs (only installing instagram and fenix) because I couldn't believe it
I wonder if it's not an Exynos only problem, I suspect Samsung might have optimized the snapdragon / US version much more than the European one; US market is way more important I guess.
Any clue about that?
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I remember a few years ago when the note 5 was released. Boy did that phone lag, it was unbelievable. The thing is not many people would notice it and like you I use fenix and talon for Twitter and if a phone lags on these 2 apps it's glaringly obvious for me. Please let me know how you get on with this as was hoping to get a s8 from work.
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Because everyone configures their phone differently and the likely cause of these random issues isn't the phone it's some combination of user specific apps and settings.
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Please read my posts, I did factory reset the phone two times only installing instagram and fenix, not changing any settings.
Definitely not user specific, I wish it could be though, easy fix...
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Please let me know how you get on with this as was hoping to get a s8 from work.
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I did a video, can you see the stutter (the video is 60fps) ?
https://youtu.be/YTTYtT8JR_U
The worst part is around 12 to 17 sec.
give the phone a bit of time to adapt, there is always small updates to fix these minor issues
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give the phone a bit of time to adapt, there is always small updates to fix these minor issues
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Guess you're right, I'm quite sure the stutter is caused by Samsung software trying too hard to smooth the scrolling.
Because to get the stutter I must scroll without pause, if I pause and scroll again things stay smooth.
I really hope they fix that soon but what if they don't and I can't return the phone...
PS: it tooks Apple 6 months to fix the same kind of issues on the iPhone 7.
UK s8. Upgraded from a Google Pixel and it feels like a downgrade in terms of speed and smoothness. Not buttery at all. Stutters everywhere!
Seriously, Samsung? Don't they test these things?

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