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Hiya guys,
I was just wondering if anyone else has either used xoskins or xtreme guard protectors and been left feeling disappointed? I originally had an SGP ultra on my nexus 4 but I was feeling a little annoyed that it didn't cover the full screen. Other than that they're perfect, nice screen hardness difficult to scratch and leave the screen looking amazing. I really thought the xoskins one would be perfect so I paid the price and ordered (shipped from US to UK).
Finally arrived, installed straight away. Let me just say I've fitted lots of screen protectors before to various phones and I'm pretty good at it. So much so friends and family ask me to do theirs for them. Still, the xoskins one felt a little fiddly. The solution they provide makes it very slippy, so using the squigy afterwards made it squirm around which was annoying. Also, even though both sides were wet the squigy still left slight burns after only 3-4 swipes. It took a full 48 hours for it to dry.
The cut on the protector was good, and it was nice and clear. It seemed to leave a slight orange peel effect across the screen though, and I had 4-5 thin rainbow type lines/scratches about 1cm long on the one side which were clearly on the underside of the protector (all perfectly straight and all facing down perfectly so I'm thinking manufacturing fault?). The feel of the protector was frankly awful. It flexes under finger and restricted swiping somewhat. Worst of all, any slight knock leaves imprints. I tested it by lightly rubbing my nail across it, it left a clear mark that was there for 2-3 days! It flexes way more than I'd like, I can't see it providing much protection from knocks tbh. Granted I wouldn't do this in normal usage but any other knocks left imprints too.
So I removed it, and thought I'd try the xtreme guard. My god, I've never used such a rubbish protector. The cut is dubious at best, the screen clearly looks worse when its on and it suffers from the same indentations and flexing as the xoskins ones.
Maybe I've been spoilt by the SGP ones (I still have the back protector SGP skin on there as its a perfect fit as its flat) or maybe all wet application protectors are like this to be more flexible for the curved glass?
Either way I've ordered another set of SGP protectors and I'll put up with the exposed edges. I'm sure there's people out there that are happy with their protectors, but I just wanted to share my experiences.
Wet applied screen protector can never compete with the dry one..even the $1 junk one.
I took off my Xtremeguard and using the junk that came with my nillkin case..which is still much clearer than the xtremeguard.
But I keep the back of xtreme since it make it less slippery.
Glad its not just me who found this then I can see how having a *stickier* back protector could be beneficial. The SGP one I have is still rather slippy. Hoping it will help strengthen the back though in case it has any accidents The SGP ones saved my iPhone 4 before. One was a drop from my ear onto a wooden floor!
It's nice to read that I am not the only one who dislike the Xtreme guard screen protectors.
I just cant believe how sticky it feels and how much it gets scratches and dents.
I've got a fillkin flip case comming my way as well so I think I'm also going to replace the front xtreme guard screen protecotr with the nillkin one.
One thing to keep in mind for all wet protectors is that when you need to push out the bubbles, never used a squeegee. It is very difficult to avoid burns on the surface with a squeegee. Instead wet your finger tips and push the bubbles out with your finger. Much easier and doesn't leave burn marks.
If you absolutely need to use a squeegee, the paper one provided by SGP (ironically) is pretty good for wet protectors. Use the corner as much as possible and don't push too hard.
I myself prefer dry protectors as well but there are indeed some good things about wet ones. They are very scratch resistant, provide more grip, and doesn't show finger prints as much.
The xo skin i have is trash the front has so many random Knicks and bubbles and stuff the back does too but I'm going to leave that on and just use these 3 for $5 screen protectors from amazon until the glass protector comes out with reviews
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I am using the XG and granted it has it's orange peel look to it, but I don't mind it. The look reminds me that I have a sp on and I can safely put the phone in my Seidio holster without looking. LOL.
Yes, the screen looks way better with a dry sp on, but I am happy with the cutouts and fitment. And plus doesn't affect the Diztronic Ultra hard case at all when taking off or putting on. Which is good IMO.
Am I 100% happy? No, I say maybe 96%. But for the price of 3 front and backs for 6 bux. I can't really complain too much.
Xtreme Guard are excellent. You just need to take your time applying it and pushing out the bubbles. Minimal orange peel and the protection is perfect around the curved edges.
After having mine on for nearly a week i'd still disagree. I have no bubbles or marks on the xg but it does have the black spots issue I've read about which suck! The cuts off on mine everything is aligned perfectly with screen edges but 1/4 of the camera lens is covered. Honestly its not how I fitted it. The feel is also pretty bad. I genuinely cannot wait until I get my new SGP ones.
Xoskins replied to my email about 4-5 days after I showed photos of the defects. They are sending me out a new protector at least. Will probably sell it on eBay to claw back some cash.
I'm not going to bother emailing xg as they're cheap and tbh I won't be going near their protectors again!
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The problem I had with XO Skins was that the protector for the back of my n4 had a little pin hole in it! Luckily they are replacing it free of charge, including shipping! Which is good cause I'm in the UK and did not want to pay to send it back to the US.
The protector for the screen however has been brilliant, I've had it for about two weeks on there and the sort of rubbery feeling goes away and it feels very similar to the glass on touch. If a little more squishy. It does not drag against my finger anymore.
As for bumps leaving marks, I've noticed that, but they always go away within about thirty seconds.
All the bubbles have disappeared on my screen and its very clear.
I definitely agree with the OP about the application process though, the solution makes it very slippery, which is good when trying to position the skin. But when using the squeegee to push out the air bubbles and liquid the skin moved everywhere. After that though, it dried family quickly, did leave it overnight anyway.
I'd say I'm pretty pleased with my XO Skins purchase.
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After having mine on for nearly a week i'd still disagree. I have no bubbles or marks on the xg but it does have the black spots issue I've read about which suck! The cuts off on mine everything is aligned perfectly with screen edges but 1/4 of the camera lens is covered. Honestly its not how I fitted it. The feel is also pretty bad. I genuinely cannot wait until I get my new SGP ones.
Xoskins replied to my email about 4-5 days after I showed photos of the defects. They are sending me out a new protector at least. Will probably sell it on eBay to claw back some cash.
I'm not going to bother emailing xg as they're cheap and tbh I won't be going near their protectors again!
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That's no even possible.
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That's no even possible.
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Why not? I'm talking about the front facing camera not on the rear. My SGP ones arrived this morning so the xg one was ripped off almost straight away so unfortunately I can't take you a photo to show you.
The cut was definitely off, there was some extra material right in the dip of the cut out that goes around the lens as if it hadn't been cut cleanly. The dip wasn't rounded like it should of been. Maybe I just got a bad one in this respect, but it shows there is very little quality control. Especially as mine also suffered from the same black spots I've seen elsewhere.
The bottom of the protector was literally up against the chrome rim, I couldn't of positioned it any lower so it wasn't due to bad positioning. It was just poorly made.
I've just ordered a Nillkin case which will hopefully help protect the bits of glass the SGP ones miss. The feel and screen clarity is so much nicer!
Well, xoskins replacement arrived today. It had been put into an envelope that has a bright blue lining and the edges of the protector now have a lovely blue haze. Great! It didn't even have a piece of card in to stop bending etc. so lucky it survived at all.
Not even worth trying to sell it, If I purchased one off ebay myself and it had this haze I'd be gutted. Really disappointed with them.
I did notice they seem to of changed the design too. My previous xoskins one had a U shaped cut out for both the front camera and the proximity sensor. This new replacement has O shaped holes for both so that there is something actually protecting the top edge all the way along.
That sounds like your first one was a case fit and your new one is a full skin. When I got a replacement it came sealed in a baggy, crazy. I would hit them up again.
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That sounds like your first one was a case fit and your new one is a full skin. When I got a replacement it came sealed in a baggy, crazy. I would hit them up again.
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The first one I had definitely went right up to the chrome edges on every part other than the top by the proximity sensor and camera where there was a U shape.
I'll drop them another email and see what happens. They can only say no.
Well, what can I say? I'm using the xg for the front and for the back of my nexus 4 and I'm very pleased with it. I have them on for about 2 weeks now and everything is well..
The cut of the xg protector is one of the best out there. In my past galaxy nexus I used a clear screen protector and every 2 months I had to change it with a new one because of the dust that got under it... Causing to many bubbles.
That's not the case with the xg protector. This thing is not going anywhere.. And I also use it with the official LG bumper case with no problems..
I'll try to upload some pictures for you to see.. The only disadvantage is that the feel of the xg protector is worst from other clear screen protectors, using the dry install method.
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I agree. You must have a defective one. My second set has all the correct cutouts. Here's my with the XDA case with XG front and rear protector on. The link is to the front.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36718215&postcount=7
so I just got my new s4 otterbox defender, it comes with a built in screen protector. I want to make the screen 100% clear of any dust, and get the screen protector on perfectly, so I don't see trapped dust under the screen protector..
how the heck do you do that? ! I tried microfiber and a 100% silk tie to wipe the screen and screen protector, but both left slight residue. I'm at a total loss.. anyone know of a way to wipe down a screen without adding to the problem ?
fun fact, I didn't open my s4 till I got my otterbox defender, used rubber gloves on a freshly certain wrapped desk, and put the phone right into the case. I can absolutely confirm the phone screen comes with imperfections and small micro scratches on the glass. mostly invisible to the naked eye, but it makes me wonder how they get their in the first place? noticed this on all 3 s4's my family got.
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soraxd said:
so I just got my new s4 otterbox defender, it comes with a built in screen protector. I want to make the screen 100% clear of any dust, and get the screen protector on perfectly, so I don't see trapped dust under the screen protector..
how the heck do you do that? ! I tried microfiber and a 100% silk tie to wipe the screen and screen protector, but both left slight residue. I'm at a total loss.. anyone know of a way to wipe down a screen without adding to the problem ?
fun fact, I didn't open my s4 till I got my otterbox defender, used rubber gloves on a freshly certain wrapped desk, and put the phone right into the case. I can absolutely confirm the phone screen comes with imperfections and small micro scratches on the glass. mostly invisible to the naked eye, but it makes me wonder how they get their in the first place? noticed this on all 3 s4's my family got.
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I had my phone for a few days with no screen protector, and when it was time to apply, the screen looked 99% pristine, just a single scratch made by me. Not sure what you are seeing as "imperfections".
Anyway, to your question. I never used Otterbox Defender. Do you still stick the protector to the screen? Or it is attached to outside frame? If the latter, then I bet dust will accumulate under it with time any way. If the former, you can follow multiple youtube instructions on how to get rid of dust/bubbles.
I did wipe my phone with rubbing alcohol (90%, not the green but clear) to get rid of dust and smudges before sticking on the protector, it worked perfectly. I then used scotch tape to remove dust particles that floated in from the air.
How do you like this particular otterbox?
Otterboxes trap dirt underneath the built in screen bad. If you want it to be clear of dust take off the Otterbox and remove the screen it came with. Then put on something like the zagg protector and put it back on. Otherwise wipe down the screen with a cloth and then run scotch tape across the top to grab the dust specks left behind, works great before applying a screen protector.
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If your really neurotic... go into the bathroom, turn the shower on nice and hot, close the door, wait a couple of minutes and then go through the steps of applying the screen protector. The steam will settle and airborne particulates. (Also a handy trick for those home HD repairs :wink: )
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yea the shower trick works or u can get a better screen protector: sgp olephobic...i had to swap my s4 and i peeled it off and put it on the new one in the store and no bubbles/dust...and its veryy thin
modmyphone said:
If your really neurotic... go into the bathroom, turn the shower on nice and hot, close the door, wait a couple of minutes and then go through the steps of applying the screen protector. The steam will settle and airborne particulates. (Also a handy trick for those home HD repairs :wink: )
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This x1000
Put an xtremeguard on mine front and back, and it is BEAUTIFUL. Nothing trapped underneath. Plus a hair dryer on the corners of the back.
dang these are some solid tips!
I think I'll try the steamy bathroom with scotch tape
as for alcohol, I don't know what kind of material or fabric to use, as cotton balls left cotton residue, like everything else =/
as for the case, having used the s3 defender, I'm very pleased! it's much slimmer and easier to hold. the gap between the screen and screen protector is like glue, I actually see oil-looking colorful patterns between the screen and protector as I move my thumb around the screen. not sure what to make of it, but it's as tight as stretching a piece of cellophane wrap tightly around the screen.
the case is much slimmer, and less bulky than the s3's. less barrel all around and a notable redesign of the case and hard cradle case. the hard cradle case adds little to no additional bulk unlike the s3, and it doesn't block volume toggling anymore.
also as asked before, all sensors still work perfectly, including IR blaster and gestures.
DRY APPLICATION ONLY.
All you have to do. Apply screen protector to fit cut outs correctly. Doesnt matter if bubbles dust or lint is there. Get scotch tape. One to lift up screen protector. Another piece to pick up the dirt either facing up or down depending where the dirt is stuck to (glass or screen protector). It will Not affect quality as long as you use Scotch tape. Surprised many aren't aware of this. BTW this is for dry applications, I stay away from wet applications. End result, if you get a nice ultra clear screen protector, you won't even notice theres a screen protector.
Can't find any ones that I like so far. I know the edge makes things difficult but all the glass one I've seen don't have adhesive all over just along the edge and the film one i bought doesn't stay down on the edge so has anyone found a good one or decent one?
Please specify it's full coverage...glass or film...works with case and of so what case
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Can't find any ones that I like so far. I know the edge makes things difficult but all the glass one I've seen don't have adhesive all over just along the edge and the film one i bought doesn't stay down on the edge so has anyone found a good one or decent one?
Please specify it's full coverage...glass or film...works with case and of so what case
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I try using the screen protector that came with the ghostek case I bought install it cover the entire front area of phone plus edges let set for about an hour try to put case on but everytime I did it would lift off the sides of the screen protector so I just took off the screen protector till I find that works. Also try the supershieldz ones same thing.
This is the one I am going to get https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01G7LQZW...TF8&colid=38DVAL1VV0RQM&coliid=I2N75A0MPNERT6
Omega Ra said:
This is the one I am going to get https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01G7LQZW...TF8&colid=38DVAL1VV0RQM&coliid=I2N75A0MPNERT6
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I was thinking about that one but im not sure about the wet install. I'm good at putting screen protectors on but I've never did a wet install before...i May have to check it out
If you have some time and patience go for the Invisible Shield hd dry full body coverage. I originally ordered a Naked skin from slickwraps but its been processing since the 18th. So when my N7 arrived today I went on the search around town and ended up in a Verizon store. They kindly put it on for me, took two tries lol. Mid-install the Verizon guy just rips it and balls it up and went to grab another. When I got home I went through the packaging and noticed he skimmed me on the install. and didn't install the back.. I tell you what that was the worst torture in my life but hey pics below! Came out beautiful. +extra dbrand lens laying around conveniently . :good: winning
I put on a IQ shield matte. I like the matte finish but it is not for everyone. There is some lost clarity but much less glare and no fingerprints. I like the wet install for no bubbles and being easy. It takes some time to let the edges dry so they will stick. Let it sit at least overnight before using or putting on a case.
My case (Spigen Ultra Hybrid)did cause the corners to lift, a common problem with cases. IQ Shield has since come out with a "case friendly" updated version that is getting good reviews. I've got one on its way.
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I put on a IQ shield matte. I like the matte finish but it is not for everyone. There is some lost clarity but much less glare and no fingerprints. I like the wet install for no bubbles and being easy. It takes some time to let the edges dry so they will stick. Let it sit at least overnight before using or putting on a case.
My case (Spigen Ultra Hybrid)did cause the corners to lift, a common problem with cases. IQ Shield has since come out with a "case friendly" updated version that is getting good reviews. I've got one on its way.
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I ended up buying the skinomi matte screen protector which stuck on the edges perfect. Went without a case for a week and then put the spigen neo hybrid on which is my favorite case of all time and it peeled the corners still. I warmed the screen protector and was able to reform the corners a bit and it helped but i still want a problem free combination
This is the case and glass screen protector that I use. The setup is perfect for me. You could use any screen protector with this case. It also holds the glass ones down and keep them in place.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01INYYYDI/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_CE9Zxb7RJCJPC
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JTYPSLI/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_hB9ZxbR2MKR17
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This is the case and glass screen protector that I use. The setup is perfect for me. You could use any screen protector with this case. It also holds the glass ones down and keep them in place.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01INYYYDI/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_CE9Zxb7RJCJPC
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JTYPSLI/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_hB9ZxbR2MKR17
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Without clicking the link I'm gonna guess that's the unicorn beetle case. I have that myself and love it. I use the holster while at work
Great case. It works well with a glass screen protector.
I have an armorsuit on this phone, as well as several tablets and phones prior. Was originally skeptical of the curved edge, but it is working great so far. In the past 6 years armorsuits and common sense have kept me from having any cracked screens. And when I upgrade and sell the old phones, removing the armorsuit has always left a perfect as-new screen (but the housings usually have suffered damage from drops, etc.).
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duracool said:
This is the case and glass screen protector that I use. The setup is perfect for me. You could use any screen protector with this case. It also holds the glass ones down and keep them in place.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01INYYYDI/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_CE9Zxb7RJCJPC
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JTYPSLI/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_hB9ZxbR2MKR17
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Is your tempered glass screen protector any good? How is the clarity? Sensitivity?
The clarity and sensitivity is great. I have one on my phone and my fiances phone. This is the third one we bought and its pretty close to the flat ones. Just line it up because the cut outs are exact. No room for error.
DISCLAIMER: TRY AT YOUR OWN RISK!
Supplies: Fresh screen film, a thin, soft cotton cloth, and adjustable temp iron, spay bottle, and preferably a infrared thermometer.
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If you're anything like myself, then you've discovered a long time ago, that although unsightly, screen protectors do exactly what they are supposed to do.
Enter Google Pixel: A beautiful screen that's just begging for protection so that it may remain as such for years to come... But there's a major problem. The screen is curved!
After failures from tempered glass and a few different brands of film protectors, I ordered the iCarez film protectors. The technique they recommend works really well. Nailed it on the first try, no bubbles or fuzzies!
After a few minutes, I noticed the right side peeling up. Pressed and rubbed and did everything I could would not stick. Tried again with a fresh film. Same thing, although this is the closest I've gotten to perfection so far.
Here's where the disclaimer comes in.
I grab the iron and set it to "synthetic". I let it heat up for a minute and check the temperature with my infrared thermometer. It's at about *220 f. I place the phone on the cloth and fold cloth over screen. Just one layer. Lightly spray the cloth with water so it's just a little damp. Then I grab the iron and with slow, firm movements, press the edge of the screen where the bubbles are, making sure to not leave it in one place for too long.
I pull back the towel and wipe away the moisture on the screen to reveal it's working! I have 90% of the halo gone!
The last bit just wouldn't go down. So I turned the iron up to about *270 f and repeated the same motion. Boom! Flat, no bubbles or halo.
If you try this, please be careful. I'm sure exposure to high temperatures is only OK for very short periods of time.
**I will reiterate that this should be done at your own risk.**
DON'T BE A DUMMY. DO NOT PLACE A HOT IRON DIRECTLY ON YOUR PHONE.
Good luck!
You could at least post a video or picture of the results.
Boo this man.
haitu said:
You could at least post a video or picture of the results.
Boo this man.
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Noted... BRB
Had a heck of a time finding a hosting site, so I just had uncle Google create a video. I hope it's adequate.
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I never run a screen protector. Honestly by the time I was ready to switch phones I had one or two tiny scratches on the screen. My wife always runs a screen protector and while I am sure she is just using cheap screen protectors her screen always looks like shiz. Oh the reason I dont use screen protectors is because glass apparently keeps getting better and better so where is the need.
I also don't put things in my pocket with my phone and I tend tp put the glass side in towards my skin.
Just some perspective from a guy that doesn’t use screen protectors or cases. By all means your money is not mine and spend it how you will, this is just some insight.
I ordered the iCarez [HD Clear] Screen Protector for Google Pixel XL. I have had it on for 6 days and have had No issues at all. Very nice film screen protector. For years I have used, http://www.clarivue.com/browse-by-brand-screen-protector.html. Very solid ultra clear protector.
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You could at least post a video or picture of the results.
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I never run a screen protector. Honestly by the time I was ready to switch phones I had one or two tiny scratches on the screen. My wife always runs a screen protector and while I am sure she is just using cheap screen protectors her screen always looks like shiz. Oh the reason I dont use screen protectors is because glass apparently keeps getting better and better so where is the need.
I also don't put things in my pocket with my phone and I tend tp put the glass side in towards my skin.
Just some perspective from a guy that doesn’t use screen protectors or cases. By all means your money is not mine and spend it how you will, this is just some insight.
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I see where you're coming from. I treated this phone like a sleeping baby on a land mine for the first few days waiting for a case and screen protector to come in the mail. Even then I still got a few small superficial scratches on the screen and a pretty noticeable one the softer back glass. A properly installed screen protector is barely noticeable and I change it out every few months when it gets scratched up. Small price to pay for the added protection.
It boils down to preference. At any rate, if you do like them, it's hard to install one on this phone. This is a way to get it to fit better. It's been a few days now and it's holding strong. I'm pleased.
I've noticed after my screen protectors get crappy and I haven't had them on my phone for a while, my screen never really gets scratched up. Therefore, I don't really use screen protectors anymore.
The only thing that ever scratched my screen was a titanium keychain accessory on my keyring. Regular keys never scratched my screen, but the titanium sure did. Luckily it was on a horrible temp phone I was using until my pixel arrived
I quit using protectors. Don't like the way they feel. And they have come a long way in scratch proof glass
Bought a tempered glass one about 2 weeks after getting the phone. And I got it about a day or 2 after its initial release.
Havent had any issues with it at all. Can't remember the brand, I just know it's a full protector, covers the entire front of the phone.
I bought the Supershieldz tempered glass 2 pack off Amazon as I have had success in the past with their screen protectors. It covers JUST the usable portion of the screen, not the entire front, and it works just fine. Zero bubbles and no "halo".
I've just got the orzly pro protector, covers the entire front as well with perfect cutouts
Easy to install, just hinge it and flap it on lol
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I ordered a $2.15 LOCA tempered glass screen protector on Aliexpress. Purchased 08/28 and received it today 09/17. I live in San Francisco. Overall the quality of the screen is pretty much the same as the Whitestone. This one doesn't come with the plastic alignment case that the Whitestone comes with, but you get a UV light and single bottle of glue. I used the same procedure as Whitestone but just without the guide. Also you don't get any tapes to protect the USB ports, etc. I just cut some packing tape and covered those up. I did ok, there is a small air bubble at the bottom. I hope it slowly cures over time. My experience with Whitestone is that you don't want to push and squeeze too hard. You can barely notice it when screen is on, but I'm kind of OCD so I ordered another and may swap it.
So if you have experience and can wait (Note 10/10+ comes with a screen protector), save some money. BTW, finger print works just fine.
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is that an Spigen tough armor case?
cheers
Same experience. Nothing fancy, but it gets the job done. Just tape over the speakers. There are some on ebay for a similar price if you don't like using Ali for some reason.
Whitestone and AMFILM are good if you need to be spoon fed.
*looks at my Whitestone with no bubbles* Hmmm... Maybe being "spoon-fed" isn't so bad.
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*looks at my Whitestone with no bubbles* Hmmm... Maybe being "spoon-fed" isn't so bad.
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I had bubble with my first Whitestone. I think having the guide cage helps but if you have experience, it's not necessary. There is just some luck to it.
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I had bubble with my first Whitestone. I think having the guide cage helps but if you have experience, it's not necessary. There is just some luck to it.
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I've installed quite a few LOCA TGSPs. Some I bought LOCA separate and then bought a TGSP and made my own kit. Worked great, was messy AF to install, cause I had NO idea how much to use, LOL. and they all chipped and cracked in a week or two.
I've also bought some cheaper kits that included the right amount of LOCA and a TGSP. They ended up lifting on the edges. Last one I tried was Note 9.
I wound buying a second used Note 9 that already had Whitestone Dome installed by the previous owner, and I loved it. So when I pre-ordered my Note 10+, I pre-ordered a Whitestone Dome for it. Sucked paying over $40, but honestly, I've spent hundreds in the past trying to find the "perfect" screen protector. Don't regret Whitestone or the money spent at all. And the installation tray made it dead simple. It was worth it to get it right the first time.
If I had to change TGSPs, if go with AmFilm, just because they're also getting great reviews are basically half the price. Or I'd go back to a soft screen protector, the Ringke Dual Easy Film. It's just basically invisible.
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I've installed quite a few LOCA TGSPs. Some I bought LOCA separate and then bought a TGSP and made my own kit. Worked great, was messy AF to install, cause I had NO idea how much to use, LOL. and they all chipped and cracked in a week or two.
I've also bought some cheaper kits that included the right amount of LOCA and a TGSP. They ended up lifting on the edges. Last one I tried was Note 9.
I wound buying a second used Note 9 that already had Whitestone Dome installed by the previous owner, and I loved it. So when I pre-ordered my Note 10+, I pre-ordered a Whitestone Dome for it. Sucked paying over $40, but honestly, I've spent hundreds in the past trying to find the "perfect" screen protector. Don't regret Whitestone or the money spent at all. And the installation tray made it dead simple. It was worth it to get it right the first time.
If I had to change TGSPs, if go with AmFilm, just because they're also getting great reviews are basically half the price. Or I'd go back to a soft screen protector, the Ringke Dual Easy Film. It's just basically invisible.
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Soft ones are uncomfortable with spen right? I tried one for the Note 9.
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gordec said:
Soft ones are uncomfortable with spen right? I tried one for the Note 9.
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Depends on which one you buy the wet install ones typically suck to use with the SPen. The Ringke was awesome. Couldn't tell it was there, even with the SPen. I honestly can't speak highly enough of them. They honestly feel like glass.
Thanks. Bought one to try.
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
Depends on which one you buy the wet install ones typically suck to use with the SPen. The Ringke was awesome. Couldn't tell it was there, even with the SPen. I honestly can't speak highly enough of them. They honestly feel like glass.
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Installed it. I like it. It's not glass but very smooth with Spen. The extreme edges has slight lift but very mild. Not sure if you had some tricks to get all the edges to stay down.
gordec said:
Installed it. I like it. It's not glass but very smooth with Spen. The extreme edges has slight lift but very mild. Not sure if you had some tricks to get all the edges to stay down.
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I haven't tried one on my N10+, but installed them on my Note 9 and my wife's S10+. Neither one had any issues with the edges lifting at all. I wish I had some tricks to offer, but I just followed the directions.
It's funny, when I installed my wife's Ringke on her S10+ I was showing her the difference between it and the Whitestone Dome tempered glass (which are the time was on my Note 9). I was showing her how glass was smoother than her Ringke protector, but to my surprise, my finger actually glided easier across her Ringke than my Whitestone! Now my Whitestone Dome on that phone was a few months old, so some of the oleophobic coating had probably worn off and her Ringke screen protector was brand new, but I was really shocked and just how smooth it was to the touch.
As far as the lifting edges, two thoughts. One, you didn't get it lined up perfectly so maybe something is a little off? A half millimeter either way could make it uneven. But I don't think thats the issue. Two, perhaps the edges of your phone weren't clean enough and had some residual oils? Or three, you just got a faulty screen protector. If it gets worse, try the second one in the pack. If that fails, reach out to Ringke and they should replace it for free.
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I haven't tried one on my N10+, but installed them on my Note 9 and my wife's S10+. Neither one had any issues with the edges lifting at all. I wish I had some tricks to offer, but I just followed the directions.
It's funny, when I installed my wife's Ringke on her S10+ I was showing her the difference between it and the Whitestone Dome tempered glass (which are the time was on my Note 9). I was showing her how glass was smoother than her Ringke protector, but to my surprise, my finger actually glided easier across her Ringke than my Whitestone! Now my Whitestone Dome on that phone was a few months old, so some of the oleophobic coating had probably worn off and her Ringke screen protector was brand new, but I was really shocked and just how smooth it was to the touch.
As far as the lifting edges, two thoughts. One, you didn't get it lined up perfectly so maybe something is a little off? A half millimeter either way could make it uneven. But I don't think thats the issue. Two, perhaps the edges of your phone weren't clean enough and had some residual oils? Or three, you just got a faulty screen protector. If it gets worse, try the second one in the pack. If that fails, reach out to Ringke and they should replace it for free.
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The lift is really very minor. Only the most OCD types will mind. Thanks for the rec. I agree how easy it's to glide your finger on it. Finger print also works better.
gordec said:
The lift is really very minor. Only the most OCD types will mind. Thanks for the rec. I agree how easy it's to glide your finger on it. Finger print also works better.
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I installed Whitestone on my N10+, but bought a pack of Ringke as a back up. Crack the Whitestone, I can install the Ringke while waiting on a replacement.
But, I think what I'll do is next paycheck, I'm going to order the AmFilm LOCA screen protector and run a little comparison.
I've used Whitestone for a month now and am pleased, but I do think it made the FP sensor less accurate But I'll remove it and install the Ringke and see how I like it, especially with the fingerprint sensor.
I'll use that for a couple weeks then install the AmFilm tempered glass one and compare it to the others.
It means a waste of $40, but in the name of inaccurate anecdotal science, why not? And if I decide I prefer Whitestone after all, it's just a $10 replacement under warranty to go back to it. I'll post my results in a thread here, maybe with some pictures.
Sorry, I know that had nothing to do with your lifting edges. Just thinking out loud. And by out loud, I mean in silence and just typing it.
The lifting edges of ringke, when I installed on my s10+, I found it best to work them down initially then just wait a while before trying again. I waited around 30 mins to 1hr after fitting it and found they stuck down easily.
I struggled with the 1st protector so discarded it but using the waiting method, the 2nd protector sides stayed down.
If you like the original screen protector you can get OEM quality screen protectors cheap on eBay. You want ones made out of PET which are harder like the OEM ones and not the soft TPU ones that you have to install wet and they dent way too easily. I install the PET ones wet though as you have time to move it around on the screen to get it aligned perfectly and you just push out the solution (I spray purple cleaner on the screen before I install) and any dust is removed when you push out the solution.
Just installed one myself that came from aliexpress. It turned out fine but was a bit disappointed that the glass is curvy on the edges like an s10 rather than being "boxy" so the edges are a bit exposed. Can't be bothered though to buy another one and go through the installation again as it took quite some time to get it done. Fingerprint is working fine, just press the fingerprint area while curing for the first time.
ajsmsg78 said:
If you like the original screen protector you can get OEM quality screen protectors cheap on eBay. You want ones made out of PET which are harder like the OEM ones and not the soft TPU ones that you have to install wet and they dent way too easily. I install the PET ones wet though as you have time to move it around on the screen to get it aligned perfectly and you just push out the solution (I spray purple cleaner on the screen before I install) and any dust is removed when you push out the solution.
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I thought using a wet solution would make the glue not stick anymore for the PET types. Also I was told by Samsung that the stock screen protector is applied with a UV light to cure. So it's like a tempered glass install but a thin plastic type?
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I thought using a wet solution would make the glue not stick anymore for the PET types. Also I was told by Samsung that the stock screen protector is applied with a UV light to cure. So it's like a tempered glass install but a thin plastic type?
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The adhesive will stick fine on the protector even if you install it wet. I do it all the time.
what is the price this protector?
protector price,?
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The adhesive will stick fine on the protector even if you install it wet. I do it all the time.
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What do you use, just water or lightly soapy solution?