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Screen Protector Bubbles & Dust: normal?!

Although I paid the outmost attention while I was installing it, my Boxwave Crystal got some dust and bubbles (especially in the edges). I noticed that these imperfections cannot be seen when the screen is on, but for the heck of it, I want to ask: is it normal or am I simply incompetent?! :?

After getting a fine scratch on my (then) new 3970 I put on a PPC Techs protector and had the same trouble as you.
When I replaced the 3970 with a 4700 earlier this year, I had the screen protector waiting before I unpacked the iPAQ... Same tiny fluff and bubbles.
Now, after putting them on the two 9100's we have, I still can't get them perfect
Guess that just means we're both hopeless
Dox

I don't think anyone can get them perfect.
put mine on today. thought it was perfect but still bloody dust under it. sigh.
Lewis

It's a pain to do I must admit but I've managed to get mine almost "perfect" over about 99% of the screen. It's just around the extreme edges that I've got some bubbles and issues where I'd forced it to go down onto the screen but the rim of the case was just in the way.
If you find that you can't do it first time, then get some sticky tape and put that on the side that sticks to the screen. make sure the tape on one of the edges is right up to the end of the screen protector and the other end of the tape folded over so you've got something to pull the tape off of the screen with when applying.
The tape magically takes off the dust so that when you're applying it to the screenal you need to do is try to make sure no dust particles exist.
You could always try hiring out a chip fabrication unit where they're hermatically sealed too...

I've done a few Ultraclear versions and got it down to a fine art.
1. Be calm. Allow youself plenty of time. If you make a mistake, take a deep breath and start again. Don't rush or you'll end up ruining the film. Even though I've done this several times, I still allow myself half an hour.
2. Trim the narrow edge off an old credit card so it has a straight edge with sharp corners, and get some screenwipes or lint free cloth.
3. Do the fitting in a steamy room. I use the bathroom with the hot shower going. This drops all the dust particles in the air and elimates static which attracts dust/fluff to the protector.
4. Wash and rinse your hands thoroughly to remove all grease and soap.
5. Clean the PPC screen with a screenwipe then barely damp cloth. The humidity from the steam will help you to get a mirror finish.
6. Wash the protector under a warm running tap until thoroughly clean. Hold by the edges to avoid fingerprints and flick several times to remove excess water. You will end up with a few tiny droplets of water left that you can't shift. Don't worry as these help the sealing process. Don't wipe them off as this will just load it up with fibres!
7. Apply to PPC screen middle first. Immediatley wipe out bubbles by sweeping you finger from the middle to the edges. Smooth out firmly but lightly with the credit card using the sharp corners to expel air and water from the extreme edges.
8. If the protector is not straight, so the screen surround is fouling the edges, DON'T force them down - you'll just permanently distort the film so the edges will never lie flat on the screen. The tiny water droplets trapped under the protector may allow you to slide the film slightly so it pops in place - if not, peel off gently taking care not to bend the film, and start from scratch again - that means right back to the cleaning stage.
9. Once you've got it lying flat, smooth any small bubbles out with the credit card. Don't apply too much pressure as this could scratch or cause the film to move. Instead, use light, repeated strokes.
10. Wipe gently round the edges with the cloth to remove any excess expelled water so it doesn't find it's way into the device.
10. The little bit of moisture under the card will dry out within 24 hours. Resmooth the film regularly in that period with the credit card, to eliminate any small bubbles, or lifting of the edges, that appear as it dries. If you have to use the device, carry the credit card with you for the first couple of days so you can smooth it immediatley before any dust gets under the edges.
11. Keep the backing films in a safe place. You'll need these to gently slide under the protector shoud you ever need to remove it and re-apply.
Result - perfectly clear protector that is virtually invisible.

Ineedtoys said:
3. Do the fitting in a steamy room. I use the bathroom with the hot shower going. This drops all the dust particles in the air and elimates static which attracts dust/fluff to the protector.
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I also use the bathroom but hadn't thought of the steam - nice idea.
I find it easier to handle the protector by creating a 'T' of adhesive tape which I place on the centre of the protector before removing the backing, that way I can hold it without touching the edges - the opaque scotch tape is the best and can be used to remove the protector too.

Great ideas everyone. Thank you for your feedback!
After trying some more times I got it right with slight dust, hair, bubbles. I'm pleased.

thanx
thank you guys for cool advice, i'll try it soon ..

NinjaDonkey said:
The tape magically takes off the dust so that when you're applying it to the screenal you need to do is try to make sure no dust particles exist.
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I can confirm after numerous efforts to get rid of the dust, this is by far the best and most crucial solution-step! I managed a 90-95% success with the protector leaving some openings only at the edges, but in the middle nothing. Thanks for the info!!!

included screen protector??

i just got my touch pro and have no idea how to apply the included screen protector...any help??

Generally speaking, this is the "standard" application method:
http://www.martinfields.com/video/Application.mpg
There are some tricks to help prevent air bubbles, such as this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewH-xONFN3Y
I went with a slightly different procedure I learned elsewhere. I filled a small bowl with about 1" of warm water, added a drop of mild, non-scented hand soap, and mixed it up so that there were few bubbles in the water. Placed the screen protector in the water to give it a good "wash" (to remove any dust). Then removed it from the water, shook off some of the excess drops, and applied it to the screen like normal.
The warm water made the film a bit more flexible which made it easy to squeeze out any trapped air, and the soap made it a slippery so it was easier to re-align. Once the protector was in place, I used a micro-fiber cloth to push most of the water drops out to the edge. There were a couple "dark" spots where water was still trapped, but they evaporated in about a day -- the important thing was to not have any air bubbles. The result:
Of course, you don't have to do something as complicated as I did. The real piece of advice is to just be very patient as you apply it.

im having a hard time separating the protector to reveal the adhesive side...i have been trying the last 30 mins with no luck at all only adding smudges to the protector and creasing it
someone plz help!!!!

Try to use your fingernails (if you have short fingernails, it's going to be a lot tougher). If that doesn't work, you can try a a super smal tear that will only rip a bit of the paper and not the protector.

i made a tear in the top part (above actual protecto) it seems like its only one layer...p.s. why does it include so many extra pieces of plastic??

Leant from a guy who applied for me in a shop in Hong Kong.
In addition to above mentioned tips, try to use sticky tape rather than your fingers to contact the screen protector.
You can also use sticky tape to stick out the dust.
When applying use something like a credit card to push bubbles out.

when i apply the screen protectors, i normally wash the adhesive side of the protector, then drop a few droplets of water on the screen; when you put the protector on the screen, you can then squeeze the bubble out with ease using credit card or just coin, and adjust the position to fit within 3 hours.

they should have included at least a PDAir type brand, not to mention a martin fields so that won't make our life like a living hell

I had completely no trouble applying the protector, without any soap or water.
It's a sticker... You just bend it in right direction, and the 'inner' plastic surface (protector itself) will pop off the base surface, leaving plastic frame around.
It's important no to place it flat on the device, but align one edge with screen edge, and while keeping it bent, apply evenly, going slowly from aligned edge to the other. No bubbles this way.
Even if you have bubbles, you can 'squeeze' them (move) to the side of screen and let them out.

Thanks to this thread, I discovered now that I also got these 2 included screen protectors in the package ;-)
Now, is it advised to apply both the protectors or only one?

Prerna said:
Thanks to this thread, I discovered now that I also got these 2 included screen protectors in the package ;-)
Now, is it advised to apply both the protectors or only one?
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It's like a condom. Do you wear 2 condoms?

joymike123 said:
Leant from a guy who applied for me in a shop in Hong Kong.
In addition to above mentioned tips, try to use sticky tape rather than your fingers to contact the screen protector.
You can also use sticky tape to stick out the dust.
When applying use something like a credit card to push bubbles out.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw7oIv79lyY shows how this works.
I personally went one step further and put on latex gloves to avoid fingerprints and smudges. Also doing this in a damp/humid/steamy room like your bathroom helps avoid dust particles from swirling down onto the screen or the protector.
Hmmm... talk of condoms, latex gloves, and steamy rooms... let me just check if I'm still in the right forum!

Coromoto said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw7oIv79lyY shows how this works.
I personally went one step further and put on latex gloves to avoid fingerprints and smudges. Also doing this in a damp/humid/steamy room like your bathroom helps avoid dust particles from swirling down onto the screen or the protector.
Hmmm... talk of condoms, latex gloves, and steamy rooms... let me just check if I'm still in the right forum!
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such measures are not really necessary to apply a screen protector... i applied mine on a carpet in my room (which i havent clean in ages ), as long as you are careful, you can do it dust-free...
turn on the hot water in your bathtub, close the doors and vents, the room will be steamy in minutes. slap on the leather and bring out the whip, then you are set

Shall I pull the protector off the big plastic sheet so both sides get exposed to the water? Doesn´t the glue dissappear then?

Does the ATT FUZE come with the screen protector?

johnny13oi said:
Does the ATT FUZE come with the screen protector?
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yes it does

Mr.Sir said:
Shall I pull the protector off the big plastic sheet so both sides get exposed to the water? Doesn´t the glue dissappear then?
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LOL, I was wondering the same thing

BlackAccord said:
yes it does
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No it doesnt. Where do you get this info? Unless they gave it to you at the store, but not in the box, nor on the phone.

Vulpix said:
It's like a condom. Do you wear 2 condoms?
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A friend of mine does. Too many skanks he says.

lollonais said:
No it doesnt. Where do you get this info? Unless they gave it to you at the store, but not in the box, nor on the phone.
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Hi:
Unfortunately I can't afford my new Fuze til next month, but I have been doing ALOT of reading up, so I'll be ready when I get it. I have seen many people say that a screen protector is included, same has been said in the reviews I have read online. You can also check out this unboxing video, where you can see the screen protector: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWNK2lXl9I4
Maybe you just missed it in the box, it is clear after all

[Q] How to get rid of bubble on tempered glass screen protector?

This is the first time that I've ever used a tempered glass screen protector and for the life of me I cannot get bubble out. Rest of screen is smooth but the only two bubbles. One on the edge of the button and another on the edge of the phone.
Any suggestion ?

ajamils said:
This is the first time that I've ever used a tempered glass screen protector and for the life of me I cannot get bubble out. Rest of screen is smooth but the only two bubbles. One on the edge of the button and another on the edge of the phone.
Any suggestion ?
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Is the protector actually made of glass??? If so there is nothing you can do as two areas are lower that the protector and it is not flexible enough to be pulled down by force of the static adhesive.

I have seen the glass screen protectors often recently. I want one for my S4 and Note 3 after seeing that they do not exhibit the 'rainbow effect' issue which is HORRIBLE under typical office lighting.
With the standard type screen protectors (plastic/flexible), including the Moshi iVisor I have on my Note3, and super-crappy no-name brand I have on my iPhone 5s, I use a super-heavy-duty extra-large freezer bag and my industrial shop vac to suck out the air. Removed ALL air bubbles from both with this method.
Installed screen protector 'lightly' with no squeegee or pressing, I placed it in the bag. I made a hole in the bag (zip-lock is fully intact and sealed) to insert the vacuum hose (tight fitting), and let it run for about 2-3 minutes while 'smoothing out' the protector lightly through the bag.
End result: ZERO air bubbles on both devices.
If the adhesive is no longer sticking (based on the pics you posted), you may need to remove, lightly wash the adhesive portion with dish soap + water, then re-apply if it is even possible to remove the glass protector without breaking it.

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ajamils said:
This is the first time that I've ever used a tempered glass screen protector and for the life of me I cannot get bubble out. Rest of screen is smooth but the only two bubbles. One on the edge of the button and another on the edge of the phone.
Any suggestion ?
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This worked amazingly for me!
Slowly remove the case up untill the air bubbly is not scene then quickly as fast as you can close it back up and slide your through the screen upwards or downwards depending in which way you peeled it off from. All the air should go at once.

Could the case be putting pressure on the protector and causing it to lift?
You could try removing the case, lifting the protector a bit and then press it back down.

Stay clear of Ghost Armor

Dear god what a frigging fiasco. Not only does every speck of dust adhere to the back of the screen protector, despite the application solution, but said dust particles seem to ave seriously deformed the plastic, so now the screen protector has zits.
Moving on to the entirely insufficient carbon fiber skin, there's not enough pieces to cover the sides, and the back piece is cut too small, always leaves a couple of millimeters of glass visible around the edge.
Moral:do NOT buy for the Xperia Z3!
I'm overnighting a new Skinomi setup....

npaladin2000 said:
Dear god what a frigging fiasco. Not only does every speck of dust adhere to the back of the screen protector, despite the application solution, but said dust particles seem to ave seriously deformed the plastic, so now the screen protector has zits.
Moving on to the entirely insufficient carbon fiber skin, there's not enough pieces to cover the sides, and the back piece is cut too small, always leaves a couple of millimeters of glass visible around the edge.
Moral:do NOT buy for the Xperia Z3!
I'm overnighting a new Skinomi setup....
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Thats your opinion.
I have it as just a screen protector and it is fine. Much better than other protectors because with a case on it, it doesn't lift the screen protector edges.
The only issue I have with it is the screen oils up bad from fingerprints, easily fixed with one or two wipes over fabric

I guess this is an opinion too?

All that shows is you suck at applying screen protectors... lol.
You're supposed to install screen protectors in a dust free environment. Try turning the hot water on in the shower and waiting ~10 minutes, then try to install it.

Clearly you don't know very much.
Ghost Armor is the absolute worst of the wet-applied screen protectors. The whole idea behind wet-applied ones is so that the fluid captures the dust so it can be squeegied out from underneath the screen protector. Ghost Armor's adhesive, however, seems to grab onto every speck of dust it can find (apparently it's also got a static attraction component) and literally will not let go. Not even tape pulls it off, you have to soak it down and then scrape it off with a fingernail...at which point more dust gets pulled in and adheres. Any dust. Even in a humid bathroom. Horrible design.
Skinomi, Zagg, ArmorSuit, all of them work wonderfully in the same environment and under the same conditions. Ghost Armor? They can't even measure phone dimensions or create properly cut and sized skin pieces, so I guess asking them to create a proper wet-applied TPU screen protector is too much to ask.

npaladin2000 said:
Clearly you don't know very much.
Ghost Armor is the absolute worst of the wet-applied screen protectors. The whole idea behind wet-applied ones is so that the fluid captures the dust so it can be squeegied out from underneath the screen protector. Ghost Armor's adhesive, however, seems to grab onto every speck of dust it can find (apparently it's also got a static attraction component) and literally will not let go. Not even tape pulls it off, you have to soak it down and then scrape it off with a fingernail...at which point more dust gets pulled in and adheres. Any dust. Even in a humid bathroom. Horrible design.
Skinomi, Zagg, ArmorSuit, all of them work wonderfully in the same environment and under the same conditions. Ghost Armor? They can't even measure phone dimensions or create properly cut and sized skin pieces, so I guess asking them to create a proper wet-applied TPU screen protector is too much to ask.
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I have used Ghost Armor many times, but have quit using wet-applied protectors in favor of glass protectors. (If I use one at all)
I guess your dust is more dusty than my dust.

I installed cheap mumbi display protectors on the front and back when i got the phone. Both without a single spot of dust or air under them. I don't even want to install my screen protector made of glass, as i then have to pull of the perfect installed normal protector.
Before installation, i had to wipe the screen several times as there was always new dust on it, i did not apply them wet or in my bathroom. Absolutely no problems, so i don't understand how there can be so much dust under the protector if anyone knows what he's doing.

Again, I can get any brand on completely dust-free, except for these things. Ergo, something is wrong with these things.

npaladin2000 said:
Again, I can get any brand on completely dust-free, except for these things. Ergo, something is wrong with these things.
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It's completely possible you had a bad install...
Perhaps they use a better adhesive. I've never had any problem installing Ghost Armor, or any other "brand" screen protector.

xxquicksh0txx said:
Perhaps they use a better adhesive.
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Maybe so. I think I read at one point that their protectors could optionally be installed dry, so maybe they're designed that way. But better isn't necessarily good. And I notice their instructions specify a wet install now.
Incidentally I just tried scraping off the dust and reapplying the thing. Only this time in my relatively dust free datacenter. And guess what? It managed to find some dust from somewhere. Damn, they should compete with Swiffer.
Anyway my emergency Skinomi will be here on Thursday. In the meantime this screen is driving me nuts though.
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npaladin2000 said:
Again, I can get any brand on completely dust-free, except for these things. Ergo, something is wrong with these things.
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Interesting, I have used it on four phones, and not a single spec of dust on any of them if you prepare your surface correctly, I normally keep the phone screen facing the ground to stop dust settling on it, then apply holding the phone sideways as to keep as smallest surface area exposed to falling dust

Anyone else having problem finding screen protector

I been trying to find a basic screen protector not tempered class.
I bought three different brands off amazon and they edges do not stay on at all..
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StreetkillnHD said:
I been trying to find a basic screen protector not tempered class.
I bought three different brands off amazon and they edges do not stay on at all..
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I used armorsuit wet install. No problems so far. Only on day 3. A tip I've learned that I use to this day, take all ur tools into the bathroom with u. Take a hot shower. Then replace or install the screen protector. The steam creates an atmosphere with no floating dust particles. For the armorsuit, I lightly sprayed the phone, sprayed my fingers, sprayed the film protector. I applied it where I wanted it. I use a rubber squeegee, and with one swipe 90% of the liquid was out. Then I start to smooth the edges. Get a blow dryer and make light passes at the phone. Keep at it for a minute or so and done. Let it sit on a table overnight and when u wake up, looks perfect.
I really want a glass protector, in fact ordered 3 different ones, however I'm hesitant from all the horror stories I read about the ones for the s6 edge.
Anyway, good luck.
BTW, Amazon has the armorsuit for under $10.

i agree with the armorsuit since noone has a legit glass protector yet. i do my installation in the bathroom too.but i do mine on the sink with hot water on. thought i would have issues cause the edges were lifting but i guess it was just the excess liquid. after few minutes pressed the edges down and they stayed down. didnt even use blow dryer. waiting for skinomi version which is supposed to be full body. front, back and sides.. i mostly use a case but still too pretty i dont want any scratches lol

I've always applied mine in the bathroom with the hot shower running.
I did purchase a TPU case but it made the screen look horrible (bubbles, rainbows, scratches, etc) so I took it off straight away.
The Skinomi TechSkin looks great with some great reviews so I think I will go for that one for now.