Dear god what a frigging fiasco. Not only does every speck of dust adhere to the back of the screen protector, despite the application solution, but said dust particles seem to ave seriously deformed the plastic, so now the screen protector has zits.
Moving on to the entirely insufficient carbon fiber skin, there's not enough pieces to cover the sides, and the back piece is cut too small, always leaves a couple of millimeters of glass visible around the edge.
Moral:do NOT buy for the Xperia Z3!
I'm overnighting a new Skinomi setup....
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Dear god what a frigging fiasco. Not only does every speck of dust adhere to the back of the screen protector, despite the application solution, but said dust particles seem to ave seriously deformed the plastic, so now the screen protector has zits.
Moving on to the entirely insufficient carbon fiber skin, there's not enough pieces to cover the sides, and the back piece is cut too small, always leaves a couple of millimeters of glass visible around the edge.
Moral:do NOT buy for the Xperia Z3!
I'm overnighting a new Skinomi setup....
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Thats your opinion.
I have it as just a screen protector and it is fine. Much better than other protectors because with a case on it, it doesn't lift the screen protector edges.
The only issue I have with it is the screen oils up bad from fingerprints, easily fixed with one or two wipes over fabric
I guess this is an opinion too?
All that shows is you suck at applying screen protectors... lol.
You're supposed to install screen protectors in a dust free environment. Try turning the hot water on in the shower and waiting ~10 minutes, then try to install it.
Clearly you don't know very much.
Ghost Armor is the absolute worst of the wet-applied screen protectors. The whole idea behind wet-applied ones is so that the fluid captures the dust so it can be squeegied out from underneath the screen protector. Ghost Armor's adhesive, however, seems to grab onto every speck of dust it can find (apparently it's also got a static attraction component) and literally will not let go. Not even tape pulls it off, you have to soak it down and then scrape it off with a fingernail...at which point more dust gets pulled in and adheres. Any dust. Even in a humid bathroom. Horrible design.
Skinomi, Zagg, ArmorSuit, all of them work wonderfully in the same environment and under the same conditions. Ghost Armor? They can't even measure phone dimensions or create properly cut and sized skin pieces, so I guess asking them to create a proper wet-applied TPU screen protector is too much to ask.
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Clearly you don't know very much.
Ghost Armor is the absolute worst of the wet-applied screen protectors. The whole idea behind wet-applied ones is so that the fluid captures the dust so it can be squeegied out from underneath the screen protector. Ghost Armor's adhesive, however, seems to grab onto every speck of dust it can find (apparently it's also got a static attraction component) and literally will not let go. Not even tape pulls it off, you have to soak it down and then scrape it off with a fingernail...at which point more dust gets pulled in and adheres. Any dust. Even in a humid bathroom. Horrible design.
Skinomi, Zagg, ArmorSuit, all of them work wonderfully in the same environment and under the same conditions. Ghost Armor? They can't even measure phone dimensions or create properly cut and sized skin pieces, so I guess asking them to create a proper wet-applied TPU screen protector is too much to ask.
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I have used Ghost Armor many times, but have quit using wet-applied protectors in favor of glass protectors. (If I use one at all)
I guess your dust is more dusty than my dust.
I installed cheap mumbi display protectors on the front and back when i got the phone. Both without a single spot of dust or air under them. I don't even want to install my screen protector made of glass, as i then have to pull of the perfect installed normal protector.
Before installation, i had to wipe the screen several times as there was always new dust on it, i did not apply them wet or in my bathroom. Absolutely no problems, so i don't understand how there can be so much dust under the protector if anyone knows what he's doing.
Again, I can get any brand on completely dust-free, except for these things. Ergo, something is wrong with these things.
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Again, I can get any brand on completely dust-free, except for these things. Ergo, something is wrong with these things.
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It's completely possible you had a bad install...
Perhaps they use a better adhesive. I've never had any problem installing Ghost Armor, or any other "brand" screen protector.
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Perhaps they use a better adhesive.
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Maybe so. I think I read at one point that their protectors could optionally be installed dry, so maybe they're designed that way. But better isn't necessarily good. And I notice their instructions specify a wet install now.
Incidentally I just tried scraping off the dust and reapplying the thing. Only this time in my relatively dust free datacenter. And guess what? It managed to find some dust from somewhere. Damn, they should compete with Swiffer.
Anyway my emergency Skinomi will be here on Thursday. In the meantime this screen is driving me nuts though.
Sent from my Sony Xperia Z3 using Tapatalk.
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Again, I can get any brand on completely dust-free, except for these things. Ergo, something is wrong with these things.
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Interesting, I have used it on four phones, and not a single spec of dust on any of them if you prepare your surface correctly, I normally keep the phone screen facing the ground to stop dust settling on it, then apply holding the phone sideways as to keep as smallest surface area exposed to falling dust
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As you know the Hero has a special coating on the screen, and through the first few days of use i found it awesome. Finger prints are never really much or a problem. But being afraid that the glass screen might get scratched i put on a screen protector but now sensitivity seems a little ( tiny ) bit less & the fingerprints are quite horrible. So just wondering who here uses it without the protector & does is scratch easily ? Comments welcomed
you do not need a screen protector for glass screen phones, such as the Hero or iPhone. My Hero has been getting a rough treatment for about 4 months now and not a scratch to be seen.
I got one from boxwave.com (Anti glare one)
http://www.boxwave.com/accessories/htc-hero-screen-protectors_3636.htm
It helps with smudges as well.
What screen coating are you talking about? White Hero has teflon coating on the casing which has nothing to do with screen, I believe.
I am not sure that Hero actually has got a glass screen. If so, I think that screen protector is just pointless.
If it actually has got a plastic screen, I would not ruine my phone with screen protectors. Phones are meant for us to use.
What screen coating are you talking about? White Hero has teflon coating on the casing which has nothing to do with screen, I believe.
I am not sure that Hero actually has got a glass screen. If so, I think that screen protector is just pointless.
If it actually has got a plastic screen, I would not ruine my phone with screen protectors. Phones are meant for us to use.
Anyway, a screen with very minor scratches is not only more sensitive than a screen with protector, but better looking too. Bigger scratches, well, a protector won't protect from those.
imo a screen protector is pointless...ive been treating my hero rly badly and theres not even a tiny scratch...i can even fall drunk on the road with ur hero in hand and it doesnt break (tested)
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What screen coating are you talking about? White Hero has teflon coating on the casing which has nothing to do with screen, I believe.
I am not sure that Hero actually has got a glass screen. If so, I think that screen protector is just pointless.
If it actually has got a plastic screen, I would not ruine my phone with screen protectors. Phones are meant for us to use.
Anyway, a screen with very minor scratches is not only more sensitive than a screen with protector, but better looking too. Bigger scratches, well, a protector won't protect from those.
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theres an anti-fingerprint coating on the hero. Makes smudges harder to get on it and makes it very easy to clean it of. Thanks for the comment btw
heyodee said:
I got one from boxwave.com (Anti glare one)
http://www.boxwave.com/accessories/htc-hero-screen-protectors_3636.htm
It helps with smudges as well.
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i tried it before but didn't like how it detorriate the brilliance of the screen.
I was gonna get a screen protector for mine. But all they had at the time were the universal kind. And I knew better then to fall into that. But its been a week and not a scratch on it. I try not to put other objects in the same pocket and take notice when I'm doing something that may put the phone in danger. Making sure to remove it from harms way. But yeah... I don't think ill fall into the screen protector money pit with this phone. That's my opinion though. I spent a lot of cash on those things. Prolly enough that I could've just used my insurance and got a refurbished .
sdroid said:
theres an anti-fingerprint coating on the hero. Makes smudges harder to get on it and makes it very easy to clean it of. Thanks for the comment btw
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Yup...more and more touchscreens are going to it!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleophobic
i have the white hero and about the screen, i thought there was a screen protector on it already when it came out of the box? doesnt it?
i tried peeling the corners a bit but not too much cuz i didnt want the corners to curl up and not stick anymore, and eventually it'll bug me and i'll have to rip the whole thing off (happened before) so i just left it alone and assumed theres a screen protector on the screen
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Yup...more and more touchscreens are going to it!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleophobic
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how does everyone find this concept in practice? In the last few weeks the phobic part of it seems to be failing, or I need to wash my hands more often... just seems to be more dirty finger smudges hanging around until I give it a good wipe with a screen chamoise
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how does everyone find this concept in practice? In the last few weeks the phobic part of it seems to be failing, or I need to wash my hands more often... just seems to be more dirty finger smudges hanging around until I give it a good wipe with a screen chamoise
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Oh the fingerprints will still show up but I just wipe it off with my hand (a firm swipe up the screen) and it's as good as new.
The idea is that the oils do sit on top, but they aren't sticking so you can just wipe them off again.
Yeah i always am able to see the fingerprints but a swift wipe and theyre gone. I also always find that when i bring the phone out of my pocket the screen is perfectly cleaned every time. I like it
Mine has a very small (5mm) scratch. No idea how it happened
I too have a small scratch, about 3mm, in the middle-upper-right. No big deal, but its there if you look for it. It's a white Hero, if it matters.
Those scratches, on the screen?!
I have a tiny scratch on my screen too! It's over the black part next to the branding though so it's not a problem. I purchased a screen protector after this happened though, just to be safe.
I use a screen protector on mine (and a gel case) and I haven't noticed any problems with it being less sensitive.
When I first got the phone (G2) before I put the protector on I noticed the screen looked rubbish because it had fingerprints all over it....
I'm happy to use a screen protector to protect against scratches.... I wouldn't risk without as I want this baby to stay pristine
I like naked gadgets.
To those who got scratches, what type of environment does your phone get exposed to? Keys and coins normally won't scratch hardened glass, but dirt with rocks and sand will.
any one with recommendation on screen protector
I'm currently using a Zagg max coverage protector that I had installed at Best Buy, and have no complaints so far. The only thing I've noticed with it is that my finger tends to get stuck when using Swype, but not often enough for it to bother me.
I don't have this phone but I don't think you need a screen protector. I haven't seen any videos on the screen durability test like they do for the iphone scratch test. But I think the screen should be sturdy enough. The screen won't be as smooth to scroll with a plastic layer. And if you accidentally get even a drop of water in the corners of the phone with the squeegee, you are screwed. Good luck.
Using an Invisible Shield on mine. This is the only phone I've ever used one on. I figured with a screen this huge I want to keep it looking nice.
You don't need you it is glass like the Iphone and hero. I have seen test's on both using key to try and scratch nothing happened. Anything that would damage the screen (scratch it) would go right through the screen protector and still damage it. As it would take a lot of force to scratch. Just a wast of money not to mention it hampers the touch screens ability to pick up your finger.
someone apparently water damaged their evo with putting on a protector. Careful. I would cover up the indicator on mine once I get it.
i have a zagg on mine and hate it. its sticky and has a "orange peel" like appearence. i ordered a hard plastic one on amazon and am waiting for it to come in the mail.
I also feel that a screen protector is unecessary...glass is very hard to scratch, and can only be scratched by something harder than it is.
Zaag one here and I think it's too sticky. It messes with my swiping. Catches my finger too much.
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I also feel that a screen protector is unecessary...glass is very hard to scratch, and can only be scratched by something harder than it is.
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I used the same logic with my hero and ended up getting a few scratches just from unforseen sh!t happening. this screen is too beautiful for me to risk.
also whoever water damaged their phone while putting on a screen protector is an idiot.
I put one on for peace of mind and it works just as it did without the protector.
However, if it's like the iPhone screen, then you shouldn't need one at all. I had the same iPhone since the release date and had zero scratches as of Friday... it's last day in service!
We pre-ordered out Evo's at RS so we used out accessory credits for Zaggs and car chargers and I put them on. They do have an orange peel like look when looking at them at a angle with the screen off and reflecting off some light. But with the screen on and looking at them there is no issue with the display. They were not hard to put on either.
I'm using the "anti-glare" protector that comes in the 3-pack you get at the Sprint store for $12 (the other two are "clear"). I love it - it doesn't interfere with my user experience at all. Why on earth would you risk scratching your screen? To save $4 and 5 mins time?
Boxwave Crystal Clear screen protectors. I have a 3-pack on order (I have 2 Evo's between me and my girlfriend). We're using them "naked" so far until they arrive.
I highly recomend the Boxwave protector though, I have used them for about 6+ years on various PDA/Smartphones. I even have one for my P&S Camera.
Here is my experience:
Zagg:
Good -
Works well as protection
Hides fringer prints decently
Bad -
Blurs your screen a very small amount
Makes the surface feel like rubber
Hard to put on without getting a little dust under it
Generic hard plastic sheet:
Good -
Works well as protection
Feels very smooth, smoother than glass
Easy to put on, and normally you get 2 or 3 in case you make a mistake
Perfectly clear
Bad -
Finger print magnet, oil really builds up
You can see where the protector ends around the edges
Added glare in sunlight(small amount)
Unprotected Glass:
Good -
Feels very smooth
Easy to clean off, just rub it off on your shirt
Perfectly clear
Bad -
Medium finger print problem, but easy to clean
I feel scared to place it face down, once I get a case that recesses the face I will feel better.
Over all I decided to go with unprotected. Its the middle of the road and I feel the best over all experience.
Zagg Invisible Shield is NO GOOD.. Its almost sticky. Don't get it! I warned ya.
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Zagg Invisible Shield is NO GOOD.. Its almost sticky. Don't get it! I warned ya.
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Agreed, the Zagg is sticky. But I deal with it so that I can protect it. I don't have a huge issue with viewing it or the orange peel look when it's off because you don't notice it when it's on. The fit is nice. On my hero, I had a really clear smooth one from ebay which was great, but was all scratched up. The zagg shouldn't even mark up which is why i'm dealing with it. Sticky, but not to the point that it pisses me off. I put it on myself relatively easily, just spray lots of that solution on it, no bubbles, no dust, 2 minute application.
Maybe the Zagg is sticky if you put it on backwards but I have ZERO complaints about mine.
I ordered a 3 pack of anti-glare/anti-fingerprint screen covers from handhelditems for 7.99 (for the 3pack). They have crazy deals on evo 4g accessories right now. I also got a car charger for like 3.99.
I bought it more for the anti-glare/anti-fingerprints than the actual screen protection.
Warning!
There is a whole thread started on water damage and most of this comes from any screen protector that requires you to spray on water... ei Zaggs
When you squeegiie the water off the screen it leaks in to the back of the phone and Sprint has been sneaky about placing water damage indicator right on the tip of the phone.. below battery.
Either cover the indicator with protector or stick to the regular screen covers..
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so much for gorilla glass!
probably something my 8yo daughter did.
it's small -- only a couple of mm, but it's there.
hell, i watched that youtube of the guy dragging a nail across his TF.
this wasn't supposed to happen, right?
anybody else got scratches?
Nothing is impossible. I have no clue how I personally haven't scratched mine. Bezel is filled with nicks but glass is fine. I wonder if you could use a small glass repair kit or something to fill it
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Something like this?
http://www.amazon.com/Stoner-95141-Invisible-Windshield-Repair/dp/B001T9CG94
munsterrr said:
Nothing is impossible. I have no clue how I personally haven't scratched mine. Bezel is filled with nicks but glass is fine. I wonder if you could use a small glass repair kit or something to fill it
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http://www.amazon.com/Stoner-95141-Invisible-Windshield-Repair/dp/B001T9CG94
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i've just put a cheapo screen protector on it that came with a case i bought. i hadn't bothered before, thinking that the glass was unscratchable. will source a higher quality one later.
let this be a cautionary tale to others -- especially if your kids are using yours.
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so much for gorilla glass!
probably something my 8yo daughter did.
it's small -- only a couple of mm, but it's there.
hell, i watched that youtube of the guy dragging a nail across his TF.
this wasn't supposed to happen, right?
anybody else got scratches?
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It's probably from a grain of sand. Since that's one of the materials used to make glass...it will definitely scratch it.
I'd like to see some one take sand paper to the screen instead of keys and knives...that would be hilarious!
So basically...double check that the cloth you are using is free of Debris and I guess maybe blow some air on the screen first to get rid of any grainy particles?
Not as rugged as a Pantech Element, but mine has nicks on the bezel also. I put a nice screen protector on mine knowing that Im more capable than a kid of scratching it! You should upload pics of it so we can all get quezzy!
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
Must uh been the diamond ring.
:/ hmm why so emo?
besides if it was really strong enough for a real gorilla to use i doubt it would be sold at this price anyway. even bullet proof glass scratches >_>
hashbrown said:
Not as rugged as a Pantech Element, but mine has nicks on the bezel also. I put a nice screen protector on mine knowing that Im more capable than a kid of scratching it! You should upload pics of it so we can all get quezzy!
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
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Love your avatar...why is his head so big? You gonna make biscuits?
Mine has scratches too, a lot small scratches on the bezel and a big one in the center. The big one is probably when the tablet was laying screen bottom on table with a lot of sugar and bread crumbs (I know, they shouldn't scratch gorilla glass). I just bought a matte protector and my screen doesn't look like a mirror anymore, scratches are almost invisible after that. It's also quite ugly, but more usefull than the shiny glass.
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Mine has scratches too, a lot small scratches on the bezel and a big one in the center. The big one is probably when the tablet was laying screen bottom on table with a lot of sugar and bread crumbs (I know, they shouldn't scratch gorilla glass). I just bought a matte protector and my screen doesn't look like a mirror anymore, scratches are almost invisible after that. It's also quite ugly, but more usefull than the shiny glass.
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the matte protector i have now fitted has made my scratch completely invisible, at the expense of the screen being not so vivid; masks fingerprints too. i am going to leave it on for the present.
could you guys be kind enough to give a link for your purchased matte protector. thxsVM
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could you guys be kind enough to give a link for your purchased matte protector. thxsVM
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mine came as a freebie with a case i bought on ebay (item # 220937432912 ).
i messed up putting it on (bubbles) and have another on order. i'll let you know how the replacement works out when it arrives.
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could you guys be kind enough to give a link for your purchased matte protector. thxsVM
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Mine is a local brand, but probably it's some rebranded cheap protector from China. Still, it looks almost exactly like matte LCD screen. It doesn't have glue - from what I read you should avoid the ones that use glue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17414715
i posted my matt scfreen protector awhile ago with a pic of two transformers: one with and one without.
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quick update:
i removed my matt screen protector and replaced it with a clear (glossy) one. the new one, while it shows more fingerprints and reflections than the matt one, is preferable to me as the display is so much brighter and more vibrant. the matt one seemed 50% dimmer. the clear one was also easier to fit without bubbling (although it still took me 3 tries!). the brand i used was ebay # 370581513587.
After not being able to find a new glass, I did some research and "fixed" my scratched screen.
Gorilla Glass is an aluminium silicate glass. There is a product by 3M called "Perfect-it III Trizact Machine Glaze" (or 3M product no. 06070 if you prefer) that contains an aluminum silicate clay polishing compound. Its expensive! I got it at NAPA, quart-size bottle costs about $65. Probably can be found online for cheaper. Its intended purpose is removing extremely fine swirl marks from high-gloss auto finishes.. something the high-end auto detailer would use on a Ferrari or something.
Fisrt i tried by hand, polishing the screen with a polishing cloth coated in the polishing compound. This worked just fine for some of the very fine scratches, but took more effort than i figured.
I eventually switched to a very soft, small polishing wheel from a Dremel polishing kit. About 1.5-2" diameter. Used a variable speed drill at a slow-to-moderate speed, I carefully buffed the screen over the scratched areas, moving in small circles over the scratches for 45 seconds to a minute with a heavy coating of the 3M compound.
In the end it worked out pretty good! Most of the scratches are totally gone, and the worst of them is barely visible now and could probably be eliminated like the rest if i repeated the process a couple more times.
I hope this info helps. Just be careful, if you don't have any experience doing this kind of thing you can easily make your screen much worse. I practiced on my old and now retired Droid Eris which also sports Gorilla Glass before I attempted to touch my precious TF101.
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After not being able to find a new glass, I did some research and "fixed" my scratched screen.
Gorilla Glass is an aluminium silicate glass. There is a product by 3M called "Perfect-it III Trizact Machine Glaze" (or 3M product no. 06070 if you prefer) that contains an aluminum silicate clay polishing compound. Its expensive! I got it at NAPA, quart-size bottle costs about $65. Probably can be found online for cheaper. Its intended purpose is removing extremely fine swirl marks from high-gloss auto finishes.. something the high-end auto detailer would use on a Ferrari or something.
Fisrt i tried by hand, polishing the screen with a polishing cloth coated in the polishing compound. This worked just fine for some of the very fine scratches, but took more effort than i figured.
I eventually switched to a very soft, small polishing wheel from a Dremel polishing kit. About 1.5-2" diameter. Used a variable speed drill at a slow-to-moderate speed, I carefully buffed the screen over the scratched areas, moving in small circles over the scratches for 45 seconds to a minute with a heavy coating of the 3M compound.
In the end it worked out pretty good! Most of the scratches are totally gone, and the worst of them is barely visible now and could probably be eliminated like the rest if i repeated the process a couple more times.
I hope this info helps. Just be careful, if you don't have any experience doing this kind of thing you can easily make your screen much worse. I practiced on my old and now retired Droid Eris which also sports Gorilla Glass before I attempted to touch my precious TF101.
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Good info, thanks! Glad to hear theres a polish out there to fix the inevitable scratch.
DISCLAIMER: TRY AT YOUR OWN RISK!
Supplies: Fresh screen film, a thin, soft cotton cloth, and adjustable temp iron, spay bottle, and preferably a infrared thermometer.
Video: http://sendvid.com/ez03e7q7
If you're anything like myself, then you've discovered a long time ago, that although unsightly, screen protectors do exactly what they are supposed to do.
Enter Google Pixel: A beautiful screen that's just begging for protection so that it may remain as such for years to come... But there's a major problem. The screen is curved!
After failures from tempered glass and a few different brands of film protectors, I ordered the iCarez film protectors. The technique they recommend works really well. Nailed it on the first try, no bubbles or fuzzies!
After a few minutes, I noticed the right side peeling up. Pressed and rubbed and did everything I could would not stick. Tried again with a fresh film. Same thing, although this is the closest I've gotten to perfection so far.
Here's where the disclaimer comes in.
I grab the iron and set it to "synthetic". I let it heat up for a minute and check the temperature with my infrared thermometer. It's at about *220 f. I place the phone on the cloth and fold cloth over screen. Just one layer. Lightly spray the cloth with water so it's just a little damp. Then I grab the iron and with slow, firm movements, press the edge of the screen where the bubbles are, making sure to not leave it in one place for too long.
I pull back the towel and wipe away the moisture on the screen to reveal it's working! I have 90% of the halo gone!
The last bit just wouldn't go down. So I turned the iron up to about *270 f and repeated the same motion. Boom! Flat, no bubbles or halo.
If you try this, please be careful. I'm sure exposure to high temperatures is only OK for very short periods of time.
**I will reiterate that this should be done at your own risk.**
DON'T BE A DUMMY. DO NOT PLACE A HOT IRON DIRECTLY ON YOUR PHONE.
Good luck!
You could at least post a video or picture of the results.
Boo this man.
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You could at least post a video or picture of the results.
Boo this man.
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Noted... BRB
Had a heck of a time finding a hosting site, so I just had uncle Google create a video. I hope it's adequate.
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I never run a screen protector. Honestly by the time I was ready to switch phones I had one or two tiny scratches on the screen. My wife always runs a screen protector and while I am sure she is just using cheap screen protectors her screen always looks like shiz. Oh the reason I dont use screen protectors is because glass apparently keeps getting better and better so where is the need.
I also don't put things in my pocket with my phone and I tend tp put the glass side in towards my skin.
Just some perspective from a guy that doesn’t use screen protectors or cases. By all means your money is not mine and spend it how you will, this is just some insight.
I ordered the iCarez [HD Clear] Screen Protector for Google Pixel XL. I have had it on for 6 days and have had No issues at all. Very nice film screen protector. For years I have used, http://www.clarivue.com/browse-by-brand-screen-protector.html. Very solid ultra clear protector.
Thanks
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You could at least post a video or picture of the results.
Boo this man.
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twilk73 said:
I never run a screen protector. Honestly by the time I was ready to switch phones I had one or two tiny scratches on the screen. My wife always runs a screen protector and while I am sure she is just using cheap screen protectors her screen always looks like shiz. Oh the reason I dont use screen protectors is because glass apparently keeps getting better and better so where is the need.
I also don't put things in my pocket with my phone and I tend tp put the glass side in towards my skin.
Just some perspective from a guy that doesn’t use screen protectors or cases. By all means your money is not mine and spend it how you will, this is just some insight.
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I see where you're coming from. I treated this phone like a sleeping baby on a land mine for the first few days waiting for a case and screen protector to come in the mail. Even then I still got a few small superficial scratches on the screen and a pretty noticeable one the softer back glass. A properly installed screen protector is barely noticeable and I change it out every few months when it gets scratched up. Small price to pay for the added protection.
It boils down to preference. At any rate, if you do like them, it's hard to install one on this phone. This is a way to get it to fit better. It's been a few days now and it's holding strong. I'm pleased.
I've noticed after my screen protectors get crappy and I haven't had them on my phone for a while, my screen never really gets scratched up. Therefore, I don't really use screen protectors anymore.
The only thing that ever scratched my screen was a titanium keychain accessory on my keyring. Regular keys never scratched my screen, but the titanium sure did. Luckily it was on a horrible temp phone I was using until my pixel arrived
I quit using protectors. Don't like the way they feel. And they have come a long way in scratch proof glass
Bought a tempered glass one about 2 weeks after getting the phone. And I got it about a day or 2 after its initial release.
Havent had any issues with it at all. Can't remember the brand, I just know it's a full protector, covers the entire front of the phone.
I bought the Supershieldz tempered glass 2 pack off Amazon as I have had success in the past with their screen protectors. It covers JUST the usable portion of the screen, not the entire front, and it works just fine. Zero bubbles and no "halo".
I've just got the orzly pro protector, covers the entire front as well with perfect cutouts
Easy to install, just hinge it and flap it on lol
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Hi folks,
I'm looking for feedback on oleophobic coating.
No matter whether it's the native glass or screen protectors, I just need to look at my phone and within seconds it's a mass of disgusting fingerprints.
Has anyone here any experience/recommendations of oleophobic products that actually work at keeping fingerprints at bay?
Your feedback would be much appreciated, even if it's only to confirm my thoughts that they're all just 'snake oil'.
Thanks.
I tried some products, and not a single one worked, I just accepted the fact, only way to reduce finger print smudges is to keep hands reasonably clean, cleanning the screen repeatedly or compulsively will at some point make micro scratches due to very tiny silica particles in the dust, this, I learned the hard way...
2 second wipe of my display and it's pristine again. Also, this is a Note device so I'm constantly using my S-Pen which helps lower the amount of fingerprint smudge.
I haven't touched the bare factory glass, so can't comment there. But the factory installed screen protector was very oleophobic in my experience. And my Whitestone Dome is almost impossible to leave fingerprints on it. Maybe you just have naturally greasy fingers?
Now the back glass? Ha! If I look at it, it gets a fingerprint mark.
Almost new
I bought my phone in early February. Removed the protective film early March, and 3 weeks later I can't hardly use fingerprint without wiping the screen thoroughly first.
The area where I swipe with my thumb is completely missing oleophobic coating.
I even bought my first leather case ever the day I removed the protective film.
Anyone know If Samsung has any warranty for that kind of stuff?
Vicemania said:
I bought my phone in early February. Removed the protective film early March, and 3 weeks later I can't hardly use fingerprint without wiping the screen thoroughly first.
The area where I swipe with my thumb is completely missing oleophobic coating.
I even bought my first leather case ever the day I removed the protective film.
Anyone know If Samsung has any warranty for that kind of stuff?
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Vicemania said:
I bought my phone in early February. Removed the protective film early March, and 3 weeks later I can't hardly use fingerprint without wiping the screen thoroughly first.
The area where I swipe with my thumb is completely missing oleophobic coating.
I even bought my first leather case ever the day I removed the protective film.
Anyone know If Samsung has any warranty for that kind of stuff?
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Doubtful IMHO because the screen works and detects your touch input. If your having to wipe it a lot before it will work then make sure your not smearing something onto the screen.
The oleophobic coating can wear off and from what I can interpret that's normal wear and tear (especially if your having to wipe the phone a lot) and not manufacturer defect. Granted it's always best to get a hold of Samsung yourself and ask them if it is covered under warranty... It may very well be, but only they will be able to tell you for sure with your phone.
Side note - If your trying to use the fingerprint sensor and can't without wiping the screen first then (based on your wording) your maybe doing it wrong. You don't swipe your finger on the sensor... You touch or tap your finger on the sensor. You can always also try deleting and re-registering your fingerprints using the instructions it provides, and also consider ensuring the phone firmware is up to date (in case any patches/fixes are included).
It's the oleophobic coating that has Weared out in that area.
If the screen is locked I unlock it with my fingerprint, and after that I swipe it open with my thumb.
And for some reason the oleophobic coating disappeared at that spot across the screen after a month's use.
So to be able to use my fingerprint, I have to clean the screen from the smear first.
Vicemania said:
It's the oleophobic coating that has Weared out in that area.
If the screen is locked I unlock it with my fingerprint, and after that I swipe it open with my thumb.
And for some reason the oleophobic coating disappeared at that spot across the screen after a month's use.
So to be able to use my fingerprint, I have to clean the screen from the smear first.
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My phone screen gets dirty and full of fingerprints. Despite that I have zero issues with the ultrasonic fingerprint detection.
Now if the screen gets extremely dirty thats a different matter... but I'm talking more then just a finger print or smudge of a finger print. I'm talking things like if I handle foods or materials (especially ones that leave sticky residue on the screen) that leaves a residue on the screen. This could cause me some issues, but that is understandablly normal and why I clean my phone once a week using a soft microfiber cloth.
I just wanted to throw this in even though I'm mad late, but I had my note10 replaced on warranty. I specifically stated that the oleophobic coating had worn out too soon and I believed it to be a defect. It's only been a few months since then and it's already worn out again. I'm gonna try a Whitestone Dome.
I'm using IQ Sheild. I wipe it down every now and then with a dry microfiber cloth, dampen slightly if needed.
Looks great at the 3 month mark with no scratches or mars.
It still retains its original surface feel/qualities.
If I need to replace it tomorrow I got my money's worth out of it. Very pleased with its performance.
After 10 months, I have zero scratches and the oleophobic coating still works, not as day one, but reasonably well, at least it is still very easy to clean after smudging appears, I kept the preimstalled film for three months, at that point, it was somewhat scratched, and made the screen look ugly, I peeled it off, and to this very day, I enjoy the naked display in its full glory
winol said:
After 10 months, I have zero scratches and the oleophobic coating still works, not as day one, but reasonably well, at least it is still very easy to clean after smudging appears, I kept the preimstalled film for three months, at that point, it was somewhat scratched, and made the screen look ugly, I peeled it off, and to this very day, I enjoy the naked display in its full glory
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It will be fine until it faceplants on gravel etc or you get sand rubbing across it.
I live in the desert. It took only 6 months of no screen protector to get my S4 screen scratched even though I kepted it as clean as possible. Gorilla glass 6 is not more scratch than 4... the writings on the wall.
I did the S4 scratch test as an experiment as the LCD was already heat damaged.
The 10+ is always in a case with a screen protector and is spotless. I have zero issues with useablility or viewability and a high degree of necessary protection for a $1 G device.
Cleaning: best to a microfiber cloth to clean to glass or plastic. Ok to use dry, shake it out first even if just cleaned.
Use pure water for it's final rinse when washing.
I've used this method extensively on pro cam equipment including the plastic covered LCD displays without scratches. Always carefully clean off heavy debris like mud first though with running water.
Cloth, paper towels etc -will- scratch glass*, best not to use to clean optics with.
*only takes a grain or two of sand. Microfiber clothes help keep contaminants away from the item being cleaned very effectively.
I share with you the sand problem, as I live some 100 meters away the beach line, there is always wind blowing, and at some times, really strong gusts, not to mention when it is stormy, and yes, sand is a real nightmare
Yeah at least the 10 is well sealed... the older Notes weren't.
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I just wanted to throw this in even though I'm mad late, but I had my note10 replaced on warranty. I specifically stated that the oleophobic coating had worn out too soon and I believed it to be a defect. It's only been a few months since then and it's already worn out again. I'm gonna try a Whitestone Dome.
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Same issue. Ordered Oleophobic coating and we'll see
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Same issue. Ordered Oleophobic coating and we'll see
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This doesn't surprise me.
Your dry fingers/palms are actually abrasive.
They can and do polish glass.
On large concave telescope mirrors they use the palm of their hands in the last phases of shaping it.
I've polished out very fine scratches on L glass lens coatings* using just a clean dry finger. It takes about half an hour.
*these optic coatings are hard and very thin. Without them the optics are degraded.
blackhawk said:
This doesn't surprise me.
Your dry fingers/palms are actually abrasive.
They can and do polish glass.
On large concave telescope mirrors they use the palm of their hands in the last phases of shaping it.
I've polished out very fine scratches on L glass lens coatings* using just a clean dry finger. It takes about half an hour.
*these optic coatings are hard and very thin. Without them the optics are degraded.
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It goes without saying that we all need screen protectors despite Gorilla Glass and oleophobic coating