xoskins and xtreme guard screen protectors - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hiya guys,
I was just wondering if anyone else has either used xoskins or xtreme guard protectors and been left feeling disappointed? I originally had an SGP ultra on my nexus 4 but I was feeling a little annoyed that it didn't cover the full screen. Other than that they're perfect, nice screen hardness difficult to scratch and leave the screen looking amazing. I really thought the xoskins one would be perfect so I paid the price and ordered (shipped from US to UK).
Finally arrived, installed straight away. Let me just say I've fitted lots of screen protectors before to various phones and I'm pretty good at it. So much so friends and family ask me to do theirs for them. Still, the xoskins one felt a little fiddly. The solution they provide makes it very slippy, so using the squigy afterwards made it squirm around which was annoying. Also, even though both sides were wet the squigy still left slight burns after only 3-4 swipes. It took a full 48 hours for it to dry.
The cut on the protector was good, and it was nice and clear. It seemed to leave a slight orange peel effect across the screen though, and I had 4-5 thin rainbow type lines/scratches about 1cm long on the one side which were clearly on the underside of the protector (all perfectly straight and all facing down perfectly so I'm thinking manufacturing fault?). The feel of the protector was frankly awful. It flexes under finger and restricted swiping somewhat. Worst of all, any slight knock leaves imprints. I tested it by lightly rubbing my nail across it, it left a clear mark that was there for 2-3 days! It flexes way more than I'd like, I can't see it providing much protection from knocks tbh. Granted I wouldn't do this in normal usage but any other knocks left imprints too.
So I removed it, and thought I'd try the xtreme guard. My god, I've never used such a rubbish protector. The cut is dubious at best, the screen clearly looks worse when its on and it suffers from the same indentations and flexing as the xoskins ones.
Maybe I've been spoilt by the SGP ones (I still have the back protector SGP skin on there as its a perfect fit as its flat) or maybe all wet application protectors are like this to be more flexible for the curved glass?
Either way I've ordered another set of SGP protectors and I'll put up with the exposed edges. I'm sure there's people out there that are happy with their protectors, but I just wanted to share my experiences.

Wet applied screen protector can never compete with the dry one..even the $1 junk one.
I took off my Xtremeguard and using the junk that came with my nillkin case..which is still much clearer than the xtremeguard.
But I keep the back of xtreme since it make it less slippery.

Glad its not just me who found this then I can see how having a *stickier* back protector could be beneficial. The SGP one I have is still rather slippy. Hoping it will help strengthen the back though in case it has any accidents The SGP ones saved my iPhone 4 before. One was a drop from my ear onto a wooden floor!

It's nice to read that I am not the only one who dislike the Xtreme guard screen protectors.
I just cant believe how sticky it feels and how much it gets scratches and dents.
I've got a fillkin flip case comming my way as well so I think I'm also going to replace the front xtreme guard screen protecotr with the nillkin one.

One thing to keep in mind for all wet protectors is that when you need to push out the bubbles, never used a squeegee. It is very difficult to avoid burns on the surface with a squeegee. Instead wet your finger tips and push the bubbles out with your finger. Much easier and doesn't leave burn marks.
If you absolutely need to use a squeegee, the paper one provided by SGP (ironically) is pretty good for wet protectors. Use the corner as much as possible and don't push too hard.
I myself prefer dry protectors as well but there are indeed some good things about wet ones. They are very scratch resistant, provide more grip, and doesn't show finger prints as much.

The xo skin i have is trash the front has so many random Knicks and bubbles and stuff the back does too but I'm going to leave that on and just use these 3 for $5 screen protectors from amazon until the glass protector comes out with reviews
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I am using the XG and granted it has it's orange peel look to it, but I don't mind it. The look reminds me that I have a sp on and I can safely put the phone in my Seidio holster without looking. LOL.
Yes, the screen looks way better with a dry sp on, but I am happy with the cutouts and fitment. And plus doesn't affect the Diztronic Ultra hard case at all when taking off or putting on. Which is good IMO.
Am I 100% happy? No, I say maybe 96%. But for the price of 3 front and backs for 6 bux. I can't really complain too much.

Xtreme Guard are excellent. You just need to take your time applying it and pushing out the bubbles. Minimal orange peel and the protection is perfect around the curved edges.

After having mine on for nearly a week i'd still disagree. I have no bubbles or marks on the xg but it does have the black spots issue I've read about which suck! The cuts off on mine everything is aligned perfectly with screen edges but 1/4 of the camera lens is covered. Honestly its not how I fitted it. The feel is also pretty bad. I genuinely cannot wait until I get my new SGP ones.
Xoskins replied to my email about 4-5 days after I showed photos of the defects. They are sending me out a new protector at least. Will probably sell it on eBay to claw back some cash.
I'm not going to bother emailing xg as they're cheap and tbh I won't be going near their protectors again!
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The problem I had with XO Skins was that the protector for the back of my n4 had a little pin hole in it! Luckily they are replacing it free of charge, including shipping! Which is good cause I'm in the UK and did not want to pay to send it back to the US.
The protector for the screen however has been brilliant, I've had it for about two weeks on there and the sort of rubbery feeling goes away and it feels very similar to the glass on touch. If a little more squishy. It does not drag against my finger anymore.
As for bumps leaving marks, I've noticed that, but they always go away within about thirty seconds.
All the bubbles have disappeared on my screen and its very clear.
I definitely agree with the OP about the application process though, the solution makes it very slippery, which is good when trying to position the skin. But when using the squeegee to push out the air bubbles and liquid the skin moved everywhere. After that though, it dried family quickly, did leave it overnight anyway.
I'd say I'm pretty pleased with my XO Skins purchase.
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Confused_Cheese said:
After having mine on for nearly a week i'd still disagree. I have no bubbles or marks on the xg but it does have the black spots issue I've read about which suck! The cuts off on mine everything is aligned perfectly with screen edges but 1/4 of the camera lens is covered. Honestly its not how I fitted it. The feel is also pretty bad. I genuinely cannot wait until I get my new SGP ones.
Xoskins replied to my email about 4-5 days after I showed photos of the defects. They are sending me out a new protector at least. Will probably sell it on eBay to claw back some cash.
I'm not going to bother emailing xg as they're cheap and tbh I won't be going near their protectors again!
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That's no even possible.
Pics?

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That's no even possible.
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Why not? I'm talking about the front facing camera not on the rear. My SGP ones arrived this morning so the xg one was ripped off almost straight away so unfortunately I can't take you a photo to show you.
The cut was definitely off, there was some extra material right in the dip of the cut out that goes around the lens as if it hadn't been cut cleanly. The dip wasn't rounded like it should of been. Maybe I just got a bad one in this respect, but it shows there is very little quality control. Especially as mine also suffered from the same black spots I've seen elsewhere.
The bottom of the protector was literally up against the chrome rim, I couldn't of positioned it any lower so it wasn't due to bad positioning. It was just poorly made.
I've just ordered a Nillkin case which will hopefully help protect the bits of glass the SGP ones miss. The feel and screen clarity is so much nicer!

Well, xoskins replacement arrived today. It had been put into an envelope that has a bright blue lining and the edges of the protector now have a lovely blue haze. Great! It didn't even have a piece of card in to stop bending etc. so lucky it survived at all.
Not even worth trying to sell it, If I purchased one off ebay myself and it had this haze I'd be gutted. Really disappointed with them.
I did notice they seem to of changed the design too. My previous xoskins one had a U shaped cut out for both the front camera and the proximity sensor. This new replacement has O shaped holes for both so that there is something actually protecting the top edge all the way along.

That sounds like your first one was a case fit and your new one is a full skin. When I got a replacement it came sealed in a baggy, crazy. I would hit them up again.

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That sounds like your first one was a case fit and your new one is a full skin. When I got a replacement it came sealed in a baggy, crazy. I would hit them up again.
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The first one I had definitely went right up to the chrome edges on every part other than the top by the proximity sensor and camera where there was a U shape.
I'll drop them another email and see what happens. They can only say no.

Well, what can I say? I'm using the xg for the front and for the back of my nexus 4 and I'm very pleased with it. I have them on for about 2 weeks now and everything is well..
The cut of the xg protector is one of the best out there. In my past galaxy nexus I used a clear screen protector and every 2 months I had to change it with a new one because of the dust that got under it... Causing to many bubbles.
That's not the case with the xg protector. This thing is not going anywhere.. And I also use it with the official LG bumper case with no problems..
I'll try to upload some pictures for you to see.. The only disadvantage is that the feel of the xg protector is worst from other clear screen protectors, using the dry install method.
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I agree. You must have a defective one. My second set has all the correct cutouts. Here's my with the XDA case with XG front and rear protector on. The link is to the front.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36718215&postcount=7

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screen protector yes or no

any one with recommendation on screen protector
I'm currently using a Zagg max coverage protector that I had installed at Best Buy, and have no complaints so far. The only thing I've noticed with it is that my finger tends to get stuck when using Swype, but not often enough for it to bother me.
I don't have this phone but I don't think you need a screen protector. I haven't seen any videos on the screen durability test like they do for the iphone scratch test. But I think the screen should be sturdy enough. The screen won't be as smooth to scroll with a plastic layer. And if you accidentally get even a drop of water in the corners of the phone with the squeegee, you are screwed. Good luck.
Using an Invisible Shield on mine. This is the only phone I've ever used one on. I figured with a screen this huge I want to keep it looking nice.
You don't need you it is glass like the Iphone and hero. I have seen test's on both using key to try and scratch nothing happened. Anything that would damage the screen (scratch it) would go right through the screen protector and still damage it. As it would take a lot of force to scratch. Just a wast of money not to mention it hampers the touch screens ability to pick up your finger.
someone apparently water damaged their evo with putting on a protector. Careful. I would cover up the indicator on mine once I get it.
i have a zagg on mine and hate it. its sticky and has a "orange peel" like appearence. i ordered a hard plastic one on amazon and am waiting for it to come in the mail.
I also feel that a screen protector is unecessary...glass is very hard to scratch, and can only be scratched by something harder than it is.
Zaag one here and I think it's too sticky. It messes with my swiping. Catches my finger too much.
chazglenn3 said:
I also feel that a screen protector is unecessary...glass is very hard to scratch, and can only be scratched by something harder than it is.
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I used the same logic with my hero and ended up getting a few scratches just from unforseen sh!t happening. this screen is too beautiful for me to risk.
also whoever water damaged their phone while putting on a screen protector is an idiot.
I put one on for peace of mind and it works just as it did without the protector.
However, if it's like the iPhone screen, then you shouldn't need one at all. I had the same iPhone since the release date and had zero scratches as of Friday... it's last day in service!
We pre-ordered out Evo's at RS so we used out accessory credits for Zaggs and car chargers and I put them on. They do have an orange peel like look when looking at them at a angle with the screen off and reflecting off some light. But with the screen on and looking at them there is no issue with the display. They were not hard to put on either.
I'm using the "anti-glare" protector that comes in the 3-pack you get at the Sprint store for $12 (the other two are "clear"). I love it - it doesn't interfere with my user experience at all. Why on earth would you risk scratching your screen? To save $4 and 5 mins time?
Boxwave Crystal Clear screen protectors. I have a 3-pack on order (I have 2 Evo's between me and my girlfriend). We're using them "naked" so far until they arrive.
I highly recomend the Boxwave protector though, I have used them for about 6+ years on various PDA/Smartphones. I even have one for my P&S Camera.
Here is my experience:
Zagg:
Good -
Works well as protection
Hides fringer prints decently
Bad -
Blurs your screen a very small amount
Makes the surface feel like rubber
Hard to put on without getting a little dust under it
Generic hard plastic sheet:
Good -
Works well as protection
Feels very smooth, smoother than glass
Easy to put on, and normally you get 2 or 3 in case you make a mistake
Perfectly clear
Bad -
Finger print magnet, oil really builds up
You can see where the protector ends around the edges
Added glare in sunlight(small amount)
Unprotected Glass:
Good -
Feels very smooth
Easy to clean off, just rub it off on your shirt
Perfectly clear
Bad -
Medium finger print problem, but easy to clean
I feel scared to place it face down, once I get a case that recesses the face I will feel better.
Over all I decided to go with unprotected. Its the middle of the road and I feel the best over all experience.
Zagg Invisible Shield is NO GOOD.. Its almost sticky. Don't get it! I warned ya.
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Zagg Invisible Shield is NO GOOD.. Its almost sticky. Don't get it! I warned ya.
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Agreed, the Zagg is sticky. But I deal with it so that I can protect it. I don't have a huge issue with viewing it or the orange peel look when it's off because you don't notice it when it's on. The fit is nice. On my hero, I had a really clear smooth one from ebay which was great, but was all scratched up. The zagg shouldn't even mark up which is why i'm dealing with it. Sticky, but not to the point that it pisses me off. I put it on myself relatively easily, just spray lots of that solution on it, no bubbles, no dust, 2 minute application.
Maybe the Zagg is sticky if you put it on backwards but I have ZERO complaints about mine.
I ordered a 3 pack of anti-glare/anti-fingerprint screen covers from handhelditems for 7.99 (for the 3pack). They have crazy deals on evo 4g accessories right now. I also got a car charger for like 3.99.
I bought it more for the anti-glare/anti-fingerprints than the actual screen protection.
Warning!
There is a whole thread started on water damage and most of this comes from any screen protector that requires you to spray on water... ei Zaggs
When you squeegiie the water off the screen it leaks in to the back of the phone and Sprint has been sneaky about placing water damage indicator right on the tip of the phone.. below battery.
Either cover the indicator with protector or stick to the regular screen covers..

ZAGG's invisibleSHIELD + X10 + review

Hi!
I got my hands on ZAGG's invisibleSHIELD for X10, it's on the way thru delivery.
I saw their videos, and it's seem hype.
Anyone have personal experience with this product?
Also, right now, I have a rubber-not-so-tight-fit casing for the X10, but I want to get one that has tight-fit, real tight fit rubber casing to put on after the invisible shield? Recommendations?
Something in the lines that matches with iSkin, that the have for the "not so hype" iPhone...
If you go up a level to the Sony Xperia X10 menu page and have a look in the accessories subsection there is a lot of info on cases and screen protectors etc which might be helpful to you.
I bought Zagg's full body invisible shield before for my SE Satio. They were difficult to apply. Also, the screen responsivenss was better on the stock screen protector. You dont really need to replace it if yours came with one. The Zagg screen protector feels sticky to the touch. Not so good on a capacitive screen
Zagg's invisibleshield is horrible. My buddy got one for his x10, and I applied it. Every piece was not cut precise except the back cover. The front screen protector wasn't even cut straight. The left and right borders were tapered in the middle leaving about 2mm of space, on each side, between the border and the screen protector.
From my own experience with the product on my x1, the full body shield turns yellow and traps tons of dirt at the edges. It just looks cheap over time.
Backcover? People actually _like_ having slippery backs? Imo the stock coating is optimal since it's very grippable, it's rugged and it doesn't gather any fingerprints.
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Backcover? People actually _like_ having slippery backs? Imo the stock coating is optimal since it's very grippable, it's rugged and it doesn't gather any fingerprints.
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Well, I was just stating a fact that it does come with a back shield, and it's the best cut piece of the set. While I do like the bare back feel of the x10, the option is there for people to use it or not use it.
I got myself a Martin Fields screen protector. Applied it today. So far really loving it. Will review it soon.
InvisibleSHIELD is also supposed to be real good, but a pain to apply correctly.
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Zagg's invisibleshield is horrible. My buddy got one for his x10, and I applied it. Every piece was not cut precise except the back cover. The front screen protector wasn't even cut straight. The left and right borders were tapered in the middle leaving about 2mm of space, on each side, between the border and the screen protector.
From my own experience with the product on my x1, the full body shield turns yellow and traps tons of dirt at the edges. It just looks cheap over time.
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I had the same experience with my Zagg sheild. Tappered sides and what not. Anyway I am not a fan. What I would like to know is if there is similiar screen shields to the ones for the iphone?? They have almost the texture of a sheet of paper, never streak and seem to provide excellent responsiveness. Im not sure of the different types of protectors but if someone knows of one like this let me know!
Also the Zagg shield on the back of the X10 is actually pretty sweet......its not slippery. In fact its the exact opposite. You can set the thing down on the dash of the car while charging and it will not slide around at all. But hey, if thats worth $20 then have at it.
Not bad...
I have the invisibleSHIELD for my X10 and it's not to shab... but not too good...
As with one of the posts above, the front screen protector was not cut to fit properly; there is a gap on my screen about 1/4" on the right side, however the left side is flush. I emailed Zagg about it and they have sent me a new one and apologized that the case was damaged during shipping (although it was very clearly NOT damaged during shipping, it was just cut that way).
The rest of the case fits snug, but it does get dirty/sticky on the edges. I will be getting another case to put over it; likely the FlexiShield.
I personally like the feel of the screen protector more than the stock protector. I have both of them on right now and have no issues with the touchscreen whatsoever. The Zagg shield never fingerprints, but it would with the stock protector.
Overall, I would give the invisibleSHIELD a 7 out of 10. If I was rating the screen protector alone I would give it 8 out of 10 (points dinged for the improper fit, hopefully the replacement sits flush).
If you are like me and want a mint looking phone you might get a little frustrated by the scummy edges, however the material is strong and you will definitely not scratch anything. I recommend doing away with the full body case and just getting the screen cover in combination with another case!
Cheers!
Update: Received the replacement but the screen protector is even more tapered on the edges than my original. I've scrapped the shield and went with a plastic fitted case. Too bad, I really like the quality of the material. I'm going to try and get a refund.
Wow! Judging by the reviews, I am not glad that I went for MF instead of ZAGG.
I got protech which is essentially the same thing and I have to say its pretty good. I've used invisible sheiks in the past on a g1 and found it was easier to apply to the x10. You have to be really patient though if you leave the smallest air bubble on the edge as previously mentioned dirt and dust gets trapped underneath and starts to peel.
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I have full body Zagg ... it sux.
The size of the front part is not right so i have about 2mm on edges which are not covered.
The top, bottom and side parts are already gone.
The back part is still there ... for now.
I have a gadget shieldz full body.
I'll try it in about 2 weeks when the zagg will be gone.
Zagg lasted about 3 months.
I have the Martin Fields one bought from Mobile Fun. It is the biggest fingerprint magnet in the history of phones. I bought the double pack thinking I'd have a spare as back up. The actual screen applies beautifully but it has lifted in the top right hand corner near the proximity sensor. I managed to reapply it without taking it off totally but its still not perfect.
I want the same shield we bought for hubby's Iphone. Its a matt anti reflective one and shows no finger marks. I spend my life cleaning smudgy prints off mine.
To clear out what others said and my experience with zagg shield,
It all comes to how accurate are you when attaching it.
But if you want some advice, just put the back part only. The stock screen protector is much better, the side parts are too hard to put on.
and take care They are very stretchable. ..
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I agree, the Zagg screen protector makes the screen slightly sticky or something. Makes it hard to drag things across the screen like when moving cards in Solitaire etc. I'm on the lookout for a good screen protector now, wish i never removed the stock one!
I actually like the feel and look of the back protector and yes, the side and bottom protectors are a bit too finicky and strechy for clumsy people like me to put on properly!
Painfull Installation - Happy Though!
Hey!
So, I finally had time over the weekend to apply the invisibleShield to my X10, the full-body, "maximum protection" version.
Just let me tell you:
(1) Painfull process - took nearly 2 hours from start to finish, minus break / re-doing time because i wasn't completely satisfied.
(2) Not enough solution - the spray bottle they gave is enough for 1 time installation only! No room for mistakes. Found out the solution was Johnson's brand baby shampoo & distilled water (I didn't have any distilled water, instead, used a new bottle water from Nestle brand) ... worked like a charm
(3) sizing - oh man! the sizing of the invisible shield is not perfect, except for the back piece ... front has gaps, 1/2mm or less on either side.
(4) Applying ... it took me about 3 times to get it right, fitted accordingly. That's how I ran out of the solutions.
(5) Squeeze is not good on small pieces, better to use a q-tip to slide thru the solutions off.
Overrall, it's a different feeling. Getting used to it.
Only thing I would ask ZAGG to do is: PROVIDE A BOTTLE WATER size of solution!!!! & correct sizing of the pieces.
- Just 1 or 2 mini bubbles seen just by me, otherwise, it's a charm!
Still, I got my hands on a iPhone 4 32GB as well, kit for that is coming soon. Should be easier ...
I wish they had Otter Box style casing for X10.
tell us about fingerprint and screen clarity ...
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tell us about fingerprint and screen clarity ...
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Clarity is ok.
Fingerprints ... way better than the original but still not good enough ...
Just don't drop sun protection lotion on your phone
You will need another invisible shield ...
Fingerprint is not there, or atleast, very much of it is reduced. I am a clean freak, so, I clean it everyday before putting it to charge for the night.
Senstivity was something to get used to, little bit off in the beginning, but after the curing process of the invisibleshield, it works like a charm.
Anyways, I contacted ZAGG, they are sending me another full kit for the X10, since I complained about the sizing & not enough solutions ...
I have to wait for approx 1.5 weeks to receive, remove the old/existing one, and do it correct the 2nd time around.
Of course, i need to send back the one I have right now when I receive the other one...
I'll post a message on how my 2nd attempt went, (with extra bottle of solution, yeah! that's right! I demanded to the agent on the email for 2nd bottle of solution)...either way, baby shampoo & distilled water is good enough too.
Screen Clarity - 100% or 99.99% , unless you angle the phone differently in the light or reflection , you dont see it.
I had the full body but took it off.
I bought the white X10 in dubai, like everyone else said fitted poorly and bleeds the colours from your case, I had to take it off as everyone was saying how battered the phone looked after a month.
It is pretty bullet-proof though, sure it must look better on the black phone!

Took my screen protector off....

And man this lcd looks so much better without it. I put the protector on the day I took the evo home. I guess I did not realize how much sharper it was with out it.
Here's a question, for those of you with no protection on the screen, how does your lcd look now, referring to scratches and what not.
I dedicate a pants pocket for my evo and only my evo, with the lcd facing in. I was thinking about not putting another protector on but I most likely will. My screen and buttons are in perfect shape now.
Also the only reason I took the protector off is because I was laying on the floor playing with my evo and one of our puppies with their very Sharp teeth ran over and attacked my evo while it was in my hand. The screen looked in bad shape but the protector took ALL the damage.
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I have never used one, i got one but never put it on. My screen looks great, no scratches or blemishes of any kind.
I've never used a screen protector. Had mine for 7 months and the screen is very nice, except for one tiny nick. Not sure how that happened.
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The screen looked in bad shape but the protector took ALL the damage.
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Common sense much?
I had a screen protector, but took it off about 6 months ago because I saw someone else's phone without one and it didn't even look like the same phone. The screen looks so much crisper without a protector. I treat my phone the same as you (own pocket, screen in) and my phone looks great.
I have a screen protector on, it's a reallook. It covers the whole face and it lives up to it's name, you can't tell it's on at all
Launch evo from June. No screen protector. No scratches!
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I ALWAYS use a screen protector and a rubber. Nicks and scratches bug the hell outta me and make the phone look like junk. I had mine since August and still looks mint.
Took mine off a while ago, still in perfect shape
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My phone had been naked since I got it. It was completely blemish free until about 2 weeks ago when I got out of my car with my phone on my lap. It fell face down on pavement, the couple tiny scratches it suffered are invisible until you look for them.
The first day I got it, (launch day), I put it in the rubber case and put a screen protector on it. about two months ago I took both of them off, except when I snowboard and am listening to music, I'll put the case on. I never drop it or have it anywhere where it could get messed up so it's still pristine. It does feel and look like a different phone with protection on it, and not in a good way lol. I couldn't stand having a "slim" smartphone but using a case that made it bulky.
honestly no, the "common" "sense" i see in the average person is depressing. i take it you mean to insult me some how. try again, or move along, i really dont care.
troll much?
Never used one on this bad boy. But I also carry it in a specific pocket or my chest pocket on my jacket/coats. The TPU case I use has a slight lip on the face, which keeps it from touching the surface if it fell on it's face. Knock on wood, not a single scratch, knick or scrape anywhere on my phone.
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In talking to the Sprint people and other Evo owners I know the best reason to have a case is because the rear-facing camera glass is flush with the surface of the phone. Scratch that and there's evidence of it in every picture you take. I use an Otterbox Commuter because the screen protection is invisible and the case keeps my camera glass from getting scratched. The bulk it adds is acceptable as well.
Had my evo for a month and so far so good. I will probably add a screen protector at the very least since i run an extended battery. Not many cases out there that don't make the phone super oversized
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Had my EVO since July. I've never used a case or screen protector and there is not a single ding or scratch anywhere on the phone.
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It fell face down on pavement, the couple tiny scratches it suffered are invisible until you look for them.
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I am invisible until you look at me too.
I would run those cheap ass ebay static ones. I have used the shield ones ( rubbery ones, using solution on apply it ) and those do make it less sharp. The clear hard static ones are beast. IMO and they are cheap enough to replace as they peel. IM rocking one under my Cyclops case haha double protection. I didnt take it off when I installed the cyclops so I left it on anyways. More protection is straight.
I had some "cut to shape" Fellowes screen protectors which I used for various devices and slapped one on my EVO when it was new. Well...they are grainy and not very smooth. Using this made it harder to scroll and made the screen look dull.
Didn't want to go with a case because I don't usually carry it in my pocket. I use one that clips to my belt. So now I am using one from StealthGuards (which are free!). They are clear and smooth enough to feel that glide from your finger. Easy to apply and since I paid for mine, got a set of 2 and free replacements for life.
The other nice thing is I was able to take the cut out for the camera and put it over the camera lens. It sits nicely under the case and can't even tell it is on there. So, no scratches on the lens.
Had my Evo since June with no screen protector on, has scratches everywhere.
I absolutely baby my phone, it looks brand new everywhere except for the screen!
Honestly the screen scratches easy, wish i put a protector on when i got it.

Physical Body Build Quality (silver) -- Easily Scratched

I just noticed a few scratches that I'll have to live with.. Maybe I'll have to buy a case now (thought going naked would have been fine)
I know there are plenty of topic on this, but most cover actual defects.
Btw, just wanted to say that I LOVE this device. No way I'm returning. Not even this unit! Can't! Spent soo much time customizing it, and even the benchmarks are slightly above average
Anyway... My problem right now is the chamfered edges and the bottom speaker grill.
The silver One is susceptible to the same amount of scratches as the Black One, albeit they won't be as prominent on the silver variant.
The unit I'm talking about is actually a replacement. The first One I owned had defects, but even for the short time I had it, it somehow managed to build a few dents and scuffs on the chamfered edge up at the top speaker grill.
This time, the problem's on the bottom! I have a few scuffs on the bottom chamfered edge... It's been 4 days in my possession, and already is growing hits and dings. Now here's the interesting part.. As a university student, school's out and the phone has pretty much left the house only once! Other days it laid either in my hand, on my pocket, or on the floor right by my bed.
I looked at it and thought that maybe I can polish them when they get worse.. But things took a turn for the worse right away!! As I was examining the scuffs on the edge, I came across a hairline scratch that extended from the bottom of the lower speaker grill to the top (of the speaker grill) -- almost like a crack -- a hairline crack. Looks as if a pencil lightly went over it.
I've attached photos for your viewing pleasure, but as minor as they appear, note that it's only been about 4 days!! I'm wondering what'll come out of it over an extended period of use.. Guess I can live with whatever has happened to date though =]
*please note that the images aren't too good a representation of the actual damage to the device. It's slightly worse in person -- the abundance of light blurs the scratches a bit.
Arghhh the photos have since showed less of the damage as I had to resize the images to 640* 425 (instead of 4288 * 2848 )
To me, it's just like a dead pixel. You can't tell it's there in normal use, but once you find it, it'll haunt you for a while. At one point you won't care.. But when you see it again, you'll start kicking yourself.
I've been babying my phone, but I think it's time for me to go up onto Amazon and buy myself a good case. *flies to look at the Accessories forum*
Any of you folks keeping your phone naked experience any unexplained scuffs and nicks on your edges? Scratches on your speaker grill?
You guys think that we'd be able to -- at some point -- replace the speaker grills with OEM parts? I'm sure people will come across much worse problems...
No matter what device, what manufacture or what materials the device is made out of, if you don't use a case, this will happen and worst. Your scratches are barely visible. I had to zoom in the picture to see them.
I don't have the device yet but I already have 3 cases for it and a pack of screen protectors. The official flip case and 2 tpu s line cases, one black and one clear.
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I agree. I guess it's just that I'm bummed it happened so soon!
I'll learn to live with this. I don;t think I'm ready for a case just yet. The cases I've seen so far don't look too good and add way too much bulk. The slimmer ones don't cover the top and bottom chamfered edges...
I'll keep looking. I do have full body screen protection, except it only covers the screen itself and the rear of the device. Speaker grills (understandably) are left to be in the open
Did you check the phone over when you got it? Just asking as I've seen a one or two with some nicks and scratches out of the box I'm guessing it happened when polishing the chamfered edge.
Man, how do you use your phone to manage to put these scratches and dents.
I have had the phone since last Friday with daily use and no scratches, I just put a skinomi clear film in the back to protect against scratches and dents, the front is naked, looks beautiful, you don't even notice the film is there
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I have films on the back and front of the device myself!
I honestly do not know where these came from. It's been on my desk or on the floor by my bed. Hasn't left the house -- maybe just once..
Anyway I attached another saddening photo. This was taken with my old Atrix.
I'm thinking that this may have been a result of missing the charging port and accidentally sliding the micro usb plug into the front of the phone while I was half asleep...
Anyway, I'm sitting here and there's much greater things to worry about. It could have been much worse... A random scratch on the screen or a deeper nick...
Besides, the bottom speaker grill is a separate piece and if it continues to get scratched up and continues to bother me, I'll just see if i can get it replaced..
Hope I actually move on. This is the same feeling as when I found a dent on my $700 guitar.. I got over that. So ill probably get high over this
Aha I'm wondering what it'll feel like when I find a small scratch on my first new car -_-... Boy will I be a mess!
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Aluminum is a soft metal, unlike titanium or other harder metals. They chose aluminum because it is light weight.
So do you think black is more durable? I'm going to buy One today so I might considering buying black instead if thats the case.
Btw usually stratches goes away when wiped properly. At least do on my black One S. Dents, however, stays forever.
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Aluminum is a soft metal, unlike titanium or other harder metals. They chose aluminum because it is light weight.
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Yep. But I'm hoping that maybe next year they make the switch to a harder metal like steel... The OPPO Find 5 allegedly has a steel frame construction. Sure it's heavy, but if they get the right look, whatever! Durability should be of more importance than weight..
Now if it does weigh too much, maybe implement the steel construction only around certain areas...
I'm aware this will pull up costs, but the device would be that much better!
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So do you think black is more durable? I'm going to buy One today so I might considering buying black instead if thats the case.
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There's another thread about scuffs on the black edition. Maybe I've got too far... You can't see this if you're not looking for them, but to me they'll always be there.
I've seen multiple accounts of folks on here see through their black paint into the aluminum underneath.. You'd want to avoid that.. So I don't regret having the silver edition.
They both scratch the same amount, but the black shows more..
Good luck and I hope you enjoy your One just as much as I am!
Choose the device that also to you more! If you like the stealthy black, but that! But if you do, go for the Poetic Atmosphere case.. Looks pretty nice on the black variant.. The silver one.. Not so much.
Still going to look for a case, but it isn't my priority.. I'd rather keep the phone naked and enjoy the cool feel everyone I touch it in the morning!
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Btw usually stratches goes away when wiped properly. At least do on my black One S. Dents, however, stays forever.
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I've wipes this, took a moist set of wipes below the actual holes, but nothing. There is a scratch, not a surface scratch, it's slightly deeper.
100% sure this ain't going away.. But i haven't lost all hope! As this phone e grows in popularity, some ebay sellers will manage to get their hands on some grills and they should be replaced rather easily since they're in there only via an adhesive. Would have been more ticked off if it was on the screen, on the chamfered edge off of the back, or even on the back itself..
Here's hoping the grills are replaceable and I can do something about it in maybe 6 months!
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I had mine with no case for almost 1 week and not a single scratch
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No idea what to say. I'm keeping it naked. Maybe this was from the factory.. I don't see how you can get a scratch from the bottom to the top of a grill without taking your phone out much...
Maybe I didn't notice this before, but i still am worried about the durability of the device. If pocketnow reports bad durability, then I've got no option but to go with a case. Right now i dont even know where these came from.. No sand in my room, no hard metals that would easily scratch anodized aluminum..
It really IS a mystery...
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yes the part which worries me the most is the possibility of hardshell covers actuall doing damage as you attempt to place them
this is why HTC's own double flip / dip are actually a lot softer to install
this exactly why im sticking to slim transparent rubber covers
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yes the part which worries me the most is the possibility of hardshell covers actuall doing damage as you attempt to place them
this is why HTC's own double flip / dip are actually a lot softer to install
this exactly why im sticking to slim transparent rubber covers
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Tell me about it! When I bought snap on cases for my Atrix, the plastic around the phone was soo scuffed it actually looks nasty without a case. Definitely not making that mistake again!
I don't think tpu or hardshell plastic cases can really damage the aluminum bezel as aluminum is harder..
But it's still something I worry about and a case like the one you linked to is just perfect.
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Tell me about it! When I bought snap on cases for my Atrix, the plastic around the phone was soo scuffed it actually looks nasty without a case. Definitely not making that mistake again!
I don't think tpu or hardshell plastic cases can really damage the aluminum bezel as aluminum is harder..
But it's still something I worry about and a case like the one you linked to is just perfect.
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it's not the aluminum i'm worried about
hamdir said:
it's not the aluminum i'm worried about
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Oh Crap. Overlooked that!
Wow..
Kay so time to look for a similar case to the one you've got
I want to keep the beauty of the HTC One visible while still protecting it from further scratches...
Everything over on the accessories forum doesn't really cut it go me :/...
I'll go to this mall that pretty much just sells phone cases and phones. Hopefully I find a store that has what I want for a reasonable price
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WolfDale7 said:
I agree. I guess it's just that I'm bummed it happened so soon!
I'll learn to live with this. I don;t think I'm ready for a case just yet. The cases I've seen so far don't look too good and add way too much bulk. The slimmer ones don't cover the top and bottom chamfered edges...
I'll keep looking. I do have full body screen protection, except it only covers the screen itself and the rear of the device. Speaker grills (understandably) are left to be in the open
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Probably the thinnest, plastic case around. does not add bulk like otter cases do. you should check it out...
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Platinu...&st=platinum series case htc one m7&cp=1&lp=1
Also, it's aluminum. Whoever thinks aluminum, a softer metal, won't scratch, is lying to themselves.
hamdir said:
yes the part which worries me the most is the possibility of hardshell covers actuall doing damage as you attempt to place them
this is why HTC's own double flip / dip are actually a lot softer to install
this exactly why im sticking to slim transparent rubber covers
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I feel you but the cheap TPU's will scratch phones too. Only cases I have found to never ever scratch a phone are Otterbox has a combo silicone tpu which is very soft and nonabrasive unlike normal tpu. Capdase Aluminum cases they are soft touch silicone on the inside will never ever scratch. And last my old friend Incipio their double layer cases have a soft touch silicone also that will not scratch the phone.
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I feel you but the cheap TPU's will scratch phones too. Only cases I have found to never ever scratch a phone are Otterbox has a combo silicone tpu which is very soft and nonabrasive unlike normal tpu. Capdase Aluminum cases they are soft touch silicone on the inside will never ever scratch. And last my old friend Incipio their double layer cases have a soft touch silicone also that will not scratch the phone.
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how will a rubbery cover scratch it? you mean if it falls?
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how will a rubbery cover scratch it? you mean if it falls?
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No TPU is not rubbery its more like flexible hard plastic. If the case fits well the TPU material will scratch the phone from taking it off putting it back too much. If anything get in between the phone and the case game over it's almost worse than naked. It's sold as rubber like or soft but I have 20 different TPU cases and all are the same crap. Otterbox and the others I mentioned use silicone which is like a soft rubber. TPU is a cheap is injected crappy material that is why you will find cases as low as $5 or lower.

Completely Naked?

Is anyone using this phone completely naked? No case, no screen protector, no back protection? I asked this another way a little earlier; only one response. Very curious. I'm looking at the Z5 Compact and the Samsung S6 Edge. I prefer the specs and size of the Z5, but I know 2 people who use their Edge without any protection. After several months, they still look good.
All opinions appreciated.
Thanks.
Not very old but I use mine with a tempered glass screen protector that you'd never know was there anyhow... Phone doesn't have a mark or look worn
Any protection on the back?
Nothing on the back, it's not glass like the Z3 Compact...
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Nothing on the back, it's not glass like the Z3 Compact...
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Well, it is glass at the back, it's just frosted.
I have screen protectors both sides. Usually backside gets more hits
I just put a tempered glass screen protector on mine and am debating getting a $3 aluminum bumper from eBay until the Devilcase is released. I like the look of the phone naked and have had it that way for a few weeks, but I already have a few tiny nicks on the poly carbonate ridge along the backside. They're hardly noticeable, but the phone hasn't taken any hard drops. I'm thinking the PC won't hold up long term without getting damaged.
I've been using the phone without case since one day.
I'm just worried about the camera glass. I'd put a ring a bumpon or something to lift up that area a bit.
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Doesn't feel like the glass backing of the zc compact to me, it doesn't slide off the sofa either
Completely naked here. I am worried of dropping the phone, cause its damn slippery...
By the power of Sony Xperia Z5 Compact
i never used any kind of protection for any phone i owned.
why should i make it ugly to save it from getting ugly by time?
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Doesn't feel like the glass backing of the zc compact to me, it doesn't slide off the sofa either
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Does not change the fact that it still is glass at the back.
If you do not believe us google some reviews.
I have a red carbon skin on the back, makes it a little bit less slippery
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Does not change the fact that it still is glass at the back.
If you do not believe us google some reviews.
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I'm not saying I disbelieve you am I? Just saying it doesn't feel like it does on a Z3
It's kind of matt glass. Very good for me, no visible finger prints
Running mine naked but have only had it for a day. It's the smallest phone I've used in awhile and I've almost dropped it a bunch of times. I have a tpu case coming today to help with the grip.
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Completely naked. Have a little scratch on the back, looks like a discolouration. I will get tempered glass for both sides if I can find it in a store where they can also attach them for me.
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I use a Glass screen protector on the front that where 2 bucks on ebay and on the back i have a plastic protector that i bought from ebay also, pieces where 99 cent and i rock a clear case and a black s case and i bought these rubber plugs for the earphone jack and charge port so it wont collect dust also 2 bucks for 100 pieces.
Running terrapin bumper on mine. Phone is just too damn slippery not too
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I've only owned two smart phones in my life. The very first one, I got a silicone case and a SGP (plastic) screen protector. I've scratched the screen protector maybe twice, not sure if it would have scratched glass. I owned it for 2 years
For my second phone, I saw some videos about how silicon cases and bumpers don't really protect against drops because of how thin they are. I decided I didn't need the case but still got the protector since it has no affect on clarity, feel, thickness. I've had it for three years. Scratched the screen protector three times. I don't know how it happened but I did get a tiny crack in the bezel. Since it's black its barely noticeable.
I've dropped my phone plenty of times. Usually not from far, like 2-3ft onto carpet.
I just ordered the Z5 Compact. I decided to try the tempered glass protector. And I also ordered the Orzly Fusion bumper case. I figure the hard back might actually protect something. I figure the slippery body and sharp corners make it more susceptible to damage. Also, I'm paying full price for this phone so I'm more inclined to protect it.
I read about people that use their phones naked all the time. Maybe it really isn't needed but I don't want to take the chance with my own phone.
One other alternative I can think of is to buy insurance for your phone. Something with a low deductible.

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