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I am so confused which is better N9000 or N9005, which one is the phone that will get most dev support and custom roms,
please don't ridicule me as I read all threads and still am confused which one is the best version
I live in Israel so I assume I need to have the international version so whic one is it N9000 or N9005
I hope things will not be a mess for us as the N3 has so many different versions that confuses the hell out of regular users.
I think it will be quite an interesting forum and I hope we will not end up in a big mess due to different versions of N3
Here are all the variants:
SM-N9002 Dual Sim variant for Chinese Market
SM-N9005 LTE variant
SM-N900K for KT Telecom South Korea
SM-N900L for LGU+ South Korea
SM-N900S for SK Telecom South Korea
SM-N900A for AT&T United States
SM-N900T for T-Mobile USA
SM-N900V for Verizon Wireless
SM-N900,International variant
SLC22 for KDDI AU Japan
SGH-N075 and SGH-N099 for NTT Docomo Japan
So does this mean that N9005 will be international LTE and will have the most dev support on this forum?????
Will N9005 works with Tmobile LTE? If yes, then I will go get one on ebay and cancel my preorder with T-mobile.
hykhleif said:
So does this mean that N9005 will be international LTE and will have the most dev support on this forum?????
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hagalah said:
Will N9005 works with Tmobile LTE? If yes, then I will go get one on ebay and cancel my preorder with T-mobile.
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think its only bands for europe but could be wrong
hagalah said:
Will N9005 works with Tmobile LTE? If yes, then I will go get one on ebay and cancel my preorder with T-mobile.
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If you are referring to the same exact model here: http://negricare.negrielectronics.c.../2355825-samsung-n9-5-galaxy-note-3-32gb-lte-
It only supports 2g on T-mobile
From my reading in different links i can understand the following :
N9000
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LTE = NO
CPU = 1.9 Mhz Octa ( 8 core processer ).
GPU = ARM Mali-T628 MP6
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LTE = YES
CPU = Quad 2.3 Mhz ( 4 core processor ) .
GPU =Adreno 330
Video Recording 4 times better than N9000.
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Other Specs same
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1- N9000 Faster than N9005.
2- N9000 save much battery than N9005.
Please guys correct my understanding if i am wrong ,
It will not work on T-Mobile lte, just like the international S3 and S4 lte models it will only get edge so if you want to use it on T-Mobile expect 2g web
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The 9000 will support T-Mobile's 1900/2100 frequency which is used for 3G/faux G.
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so hykhleif, which one are you getting?
hykhleif said:
I am so confused which is better N9000 or N9005, which one is the phone that will get most dev support and custom roms,
please don't ridicule me as I read all threads and still am confused which one is the best version
I live in Israel so I assume I need to have the international version so whic one is it N9000 or N9005
I hope things will not be a mess for us as the N3 has so many different versions that confuses the hell out of regular users.
I think it will be quite an interesting forum and I hope we will not end up in a big mess due to different versions of N3
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i go back and forth to israel but i don't understand the frequency/speed differences both here & there. with respect to the data
speeds, which note3 will work best in both israel and USA?
From what I have gathered having the Snapdragon chipset variant will probably get you more dev support since Exynos chips are closed off.
Well that's also another factor as Samsung doesn't like to is very slow to release the sources for their processors.
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bilal1979 said:
Highlight:
1- N9000 Faster than N9005.
2- N9000 save much battery than N9005.
Please guys correct my understanding if i am wrong ,
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I don't think I've seen a single shred of evidence to suggest that the Octacore Exynos is either more battery efficient, or more "powerful" than the Snapdragon S800. In fact, if anything, the complete reverse is true.
http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/1...n-800-benchmarked-beats-exynos-5-octa-and-a6x
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Dave
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foxmeister said:
I don't think I've seen a single shred of evidence to suggest that the Octacore Exynos is either more battery efficient, or more "powerful" than the Snapdragon S800. In fact, if anything, the complete reverse is true.
http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/1...n-800-benchmarked-beats-exynos-5-octa-and-a6x
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Dave
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Indeed! Now to find out which is truly the best then the only way is to have a side by side comparison of those two to see how they perform and what battery life consume!
Hey Guys,
I am currently using the S6 and I hate this damn piece of S*** because the phone reception and call quality is conclusively terrible compared to other devices that are using the Snapdragon Processor Variant.
Don't tell me it's not true because I have tested it. RECEPTION WITH EXYNOS PRROCESSORS IS TERRIBLE - PERIOD.
I want the Snapdragon and I am really hoping it will be available in Europe. What if it isn't? can I still by the Snapdragon and will it work on the LTE bands in Europe? Any known disadvantages?
I'd love to hear your words.
Contacted Samsung France today ... It's sadly true ... No custom ROMs for us ..
That is indeed sad but what's even more sad ais that the Exynos Variant sucks even more with cellphone reception. I had the Nexus 6P Snapdragon 810 for a few days and MAN you won't believe how much stronger the reception was.
There is no doubt at all that the Exynos variant has a significantly worse LTE Radio and for that I will simply buy the G5 after 8 YEARS OF SAMSUNG ONLY.
It's enough suffering with this crap reception, dropped and missed calls! Worthless Samsung - FAIL
NEVER AGAIN.
I live in europe and I hate exynos chipset too. Any solution to import snapdragon version??
sayou94 said:
I live in europe and I hate exynos chipset too. Any solution to import snapdragon version??
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Most likely ebay.com, i doubt tmobile will ship one to you.
I think i will do that. Thank you, you think it will be better than exynos version for developement for sure?
sayou94 said:
I think i will do that. Thank you, you think it will be better than exynos version for developement for sure?
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But development of what? The exynos will have plenty of roms being made for it, except they'll most likely be based on the stock touchwiz rom. If you want aosp then you'll want the snapdragon version. But the s6 currently has an aosp being developed for it, so that will most likely be available on the s7 too in the future.
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But development of what? The exynos will have plenty of roms being made for it, except they'll most likely be based on the stock touchwiz rom. If you want aosp then you'll want the snapdragon version. But the s6 currently has an aosp being developed for it, so that will most likely be available on the s7 too in the future.
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I'm from AOSPARADOX and believe me that if I got my hands on a S7 you'll see my ROM poping (trees for S7 are made ?)
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I'm from AOSPARADOX and believe me that if I got my hands on a S7 you'll see my ROM poping (trees for S7 are made )
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You will develop AOSP rom for s7 exynos?
AOSP rom developped by a french compatriot, it will be perfect :good:
sayou94 said:
You will develop AOSP rom for s7 exynos?
AOSP rom developped by a french compatriot, it will be perfect :good:
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Nope but I'll do for a SD820. Believe me, I can put hundreds more in, but I need a SD820
h2o64 said:
Nope but I'll do for a SD820. Believe me, I can put hundreds more in, but I need a SD820
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Need an SD820 variant
clove.co.uk is selling unlocked UK S7 and the specs show sd820. Might be a typo, but worth looking into...
I found some on eBay but it's 1k€
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That LTE modem on the Exynos 8890 isn't that bad (hell it's actually not bad at all). Granted the SD820's baseband is better than it's competition, but the Exynos 8890's baseband is nothing to cry about.
Keep in mind that this is not the Exynos 7420 SOC used in the Galaxy S6/S6 Edge phones.
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clove.co.uk is selling unlocked UK S7 and the specs show sd820. Might be a typo, but worth looking into...
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You might want to check which model this actually is prior to purchasing. Global version G395F does not have Snapdragon meaning they're likely selling an Overpriced G395T.
exxi said:
That is indeed sad but what's even more sad ais that the Exynos Variant sucks even more with cellphone reception. I had the Nexus 6P Snapdragon 810 for a few days and MAN you won't believe how much stronger the reception was.
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So, to confirm, you had superior reception on a completely different phone from a completely different manufacturer and you automatically put it down to the chipset?
So anyone has a idea about how getting SD820 in Europe without paying 900€+ ?
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clove.co.uk is selling unlocked UK S7 and the specs show sd820. Might be a typo, but worth looking into...
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I contacted Clove.co.uk and they confirmed that they don't have SD820 version and they updated the website accordingly
MiNoOo said:
I contacted Clove.co.uk and they confirmed that they don't have SD820 version and they updated the website accordingly
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EBay is the only way..
mathieulh said:
That LTE modem on the Exynos 8890 isn't that bad (hell it's actually not bad at all). Granted the SD820's baseband is better than it's competition, but the Exynos 8890's baseband is nothing to cry about.
Keep in mind that this is not the Exynos 7420 SOC used in the Galaxy S6/S6 Edge phones.
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Thanks, that's good news. Where did you get that information. I'm okay with the Exynos processor as it is but I know that the lte modem on the s6 is terrible. What's the best way to find out how the reception of the Exynos variant stacks up against the snapdragon variant ?
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I've had this device for a bit now and had some time to evaluate it. I used the Snapdragon model in stores to try it out and the Exynos feels faster than that, which is saying a lot because the Snapdragon model is pretty fast. Benchmarks put the Exynos ahead by 25-30% (6500 on Geekbench vs 5000, real-world speed test has the Snap device finishing in 2:41, Exynos at 2:03, etc.) Plus this version of touchwiz was optimized for the Exynos model.
I notice these forums aren't as populated as the carrier models. Why do you think the International version isn't more popular?
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I've had this device for a bit now and had some time to evaluate it. I used the Snapdragon model in stores to try it out and the Exynos feels faster than that, which is saying a lot because the Snapdragon model is pretty fast. Benchmarks put the Exynos ahead by 25-30% (6500 on Geekbench vs 5000, real-world speed test has the Snap device finishing in 2:41, Exynos at 2:03, etc.) Plus this version of touchwiz was optimized for the Exynos model.
I notice these forums aren't as populated as the carrier models. Why do you think the International version isn't more popular?
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It's the limited bands on the Exynos model.
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It's the limited bands on the Exynos model.
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I heard the Exynos had more LTE bands that's why it's for the international models. Did you mean something else, correct me if I am wrong.
I ordered the exynos will get it tomorrow from Amazon. Going to use it on att. My 5x will be my flashing phone and for the n preview
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Andrw0830 said:
I heard the Exynos had more LTE bands that's why it's for the international models. Did you mean something else, correct me if I am wrong.
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Exynos doesn't support CDMA.
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knesz said:
Exynos doesn't support CDMA.
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Thanks for letting me know. I am surprised that all carriers in Canada has the Exynos version as some of our carriers run on CDMA instead of GSM. Since the Exynos version seems to have the unlocked boot loader, and since Samsung has released the source, this might be the first time where Exynos will be better for developing. Let's at least hope
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Thanks for letting me know. I am surprised that all carriers in Canada has the Exynos version as some of our carriers run on CDMA instead of GSM. Since the Exynos version seems to have the unlocked boot loader, and since Samsung has released the source, this might be the first time where Exynos will be better for developing. Let's at least hope
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The Edge 935F exynos forum is active. I guess the larger , more expensive model has more folllowers on XDA. I wished the forums were merged like in reddit. With very few exceptions, a discussion about the S7 Edge applies to the regular S7.
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I've had this device for a bit now and had some time to evaluate it. I used the Snapdragon model in stores to try it out and the Exynos feels faster than that, which is saying a lot because the Snapdragon model is pretty fast. Benchmarks put the Exynos ahead by 25-30% (6500 on Geekbench vs 5000, real-world speed test has the Snap device finishing in 2:41, Exynos at 2:03, etc.) Plus this version of touchwiz was optimized for the Exynos model.
I notice these forums aren't as populated as the carrier models. Why do you think the International version isn't more popular?
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Not everyone can drop $600 on a phone. Most of the Exynos ones purchased online do not come with a factory warranty. The SD model normally benchmarks higher in single core power and graphics. The Exynos higher in multi core processing. Each person has a preference. Since the Exynos model isn't a US model your average phone person doesn't even know what it is.
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It's the limited bands on the Exynos model.
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The Exynos supports more LTE bands, but the Snapdragon supports CDMA. Hence why it's used in markets that require CDMA .
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Andrw0830 said:
Thanks for letting me know. I am surprised that all carriers in Canada has the Exynos version as some of our carriers run on CDMA instead of GSM. Since the Exynos version seems to have the unlocked boot loader, and since Samsung has released the source, this might be the first time where Exynos will be better for developing. Let's at least hope
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None of the Canadian carriers use CDMA. We're all GSM/LTE now. Have been since Telus/Bell cooperated for the 2010 Olympics.
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Not everyone heads to the development forums so thought Id post this here.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=71996216
Please thank the developer on that thread.
Roms are already popping up as well! :thumbup:
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too bad its not for the Verizon S8+
Nice to see a familiar name over here @force70! Just ordered my phone today and hope to be getting it soon.
Jayster0966 said:
Nice to see a familiar name over here @force70! Just ordered my phone today and hope to be getting it soon.
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Haha! Yes its been awhile for sure. Hope all is well?
I think we will see alot of the old crew on the s8 which will be awesome
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too bad its not for the Verizon S8+
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But we all knew the snapdragon would be locked tight and see zero development.
Im ditching mine hopefully next week for the exynos if my vendor gets stock
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force70 said:
But we all knew the snapdragon would be locked tight and see zero development.
Im ditching mine hopefully next week for the exynos if my vendor gets stock
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International version comes the 28th ... this is a sweet phone minus my audio issues ... ill be ok w no verizon root
Jayster0966 said:
Nice to see a familiar name over here @force70! Just ordered my phone today and hope to be getting it soon.
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You ordered one J-Dawg??LOL
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s7freak said:
You ordered one J-Dawg??LOL
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GREAT! Another familiar name! It's been a while @s7freak. It's like a family reunion around here.
I see you got yours already! :highfive:
Not sure yet but it'll be coming
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So no work is being done on the Snapdragon 835 then? I got the SM-G955U
opieum said:
So no work is being done on the Snapdragon 835 then? I got the SM-G955U
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Yeah they are working on something...engineering firmware again...its posted in here somewhere.
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opieum said:
So no work is being done on the Snapdragon 835 then? I got the SM-G955U
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Unfortunately not yet... Locked Bootloader! Need the Exynos unlocked model.
There have been other devices that had locked bootloaders and were rooted, Sony Z1S & a few other brands and models if I recall.
I understand an exploit needs to be found and assume one will be eventually. Just curious if anyone will be working on the SD835s
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I know installing custom ROMS will likely be a nonstarter with the locked bootloader. The stock ROM is good enough as a base with some minor debloating, in this case I'm interested in root so I can use titanium backup and other root tools.
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There have been other devices that had locked bootloaders and were rooted, Sony Z1S & a few other brands and models if I recall.
I understand an exploit needs to be found and assume one will be eventually. Just curious if anyone will be working on the SD835s
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I know installing custom ROMS will likely be a nonstarter with the locked bootloader. The stock ROM is good enough as a base with some minor debloating, in this case I'm interested in root so I can use titanium backup and other root tools.
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I just posted they are working on the 835 to get it rooted.
And yes other devices with locked BLs have been unlocked, bypassed etc etc but not the later sammy devices.
S7 is a year old now and the BL is still locked.
Exynos is the the only way to go at this point.
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Sorry missed that, good to know!...But interesting. I was under the impression the G95xU designation meant it was unlocked. I've got one of those on TMo I've got both variants g955u and g950u hence why I was asking.
opieum said:
Sorry missed that, good to know!...But interesting. I was under the impression the G95xU designation meant it was unlocked. I've got one of those on TMo I've got both variants g955u and g950u hence why I was asking.
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Seems this year all the US models are designated "U"..whether bought from samsung or the carriers.
The last few years U meant carrier unlocked which has zero to do with the bootloader
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That sucks that international phone doesn't support Band 30 for at&t LTE.
cline2 said:
That sucks that international phone doesn't support Band 30 for at&t LTE.
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Some say it has it some say it doesnt.
The FCC says it does...who knows lol
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force70 said:
Some say it has it some say it doesnt.
The FCC says it does...who knows lol
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Yeah but need speed faster.
force70 said:
Some say it has it some say it doesnt.
The FCC says it does...who knows lol
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If we could get a definite answer for this, the bands supported, by testing via side by side comparison of two varents near a ATT cell on band 30, then I would perhaps be convinced to go with the international varent. Could an early adopter who has happened to use both with an ATT carrier comment on this?
Otherwise I really enjoy the Snapdragon's support for demestic LTE bands, and FM radio. I travel through either urban zones of full cell coverage, or rural zones with none at all, so I prefer the fact that I can maximize the utility of both my radios in both environments.
I am intending to buy my S8 in Latin America - but only if the processor is Exynos so it can be rooted. The S7 last year was Exynos but I see that, although Canada had Exynos on the S7, the S8 is now Snapdragon. How can I be sure what processor is in the S8 if I look at one in a shop? On my S7 the only way I have found to check is by using a 3rd party app, such as Phone Info or CPU-z. Obviously, I won't be able to install a 3rd party app in the shop. I won't trust what the salesman says. How can I be sure? Otherwise I will have to import one from the UK which will probably end up costing me more.
Now that many of you have the S8, is there anything on the box or in Settings or elsewhere that says what processor you have?
Not Sure (idiocracy) )))). I have a european model and it has a label witch states that is to be sold only in europem.... The only sure way is to install an app (like aida64, cpuz, antutu etc) and check the specs. You can try that with one of the display units from where you want to buy the phone.
CPU-Z identifies the Samsung S8 plus sold in Europe (Netherlands) as using the Samsung Exynos 8895 processor
Yes, go with CPU-Z.
Isn't it just obvious by looking at the model number?
SM-G950/955U = Snapdragon 835
SM-G950/955F = Exynos 8895
and -FD is exynos with dual sim support
There are some other models but not as oftenly seen, like -V and -W which both are SD835.
I have an unlocked S8, bought in US, but I have a dual SIM tray, model number, according to "About Phone is G950U1. Does my phone have dual SIM support?
Geekbench says that my S8 G950F has a Snapdragon 835, CPU-Z shows the Exynos 8895
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Geekbench says that my S8 G950F has a Snapdragon 835, CPU-Z shows the Exynos 8895
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950F is exynos
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Geekbench says that my S8 G950F has a Snapdragon 835, CPU-Z shows the Exynos 8895
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That's a known bug in geekbench
Nope the second tray is for a mSD card
i have an sm-g950u is anyone familiar with the processor in this model?
G950F, G955FD, G955F, G950FD, G955N, G950N Are all Exynoses.
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i have an sm-g950u is anyone familiar with the processor in this model?
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SD835.
If I root with Magisk do I have to check the OEM unlock box? And will my battery charge to 100 % because I heard something about max 80 % after rooting device?