I've had this device for a bit now and had some time to evaluate it. I used the Snapdragon model in stores to try it out and the Exynos feels faster than that, which is saying a lot because the Snapdragon model is pretty fast. Benchmarks put the Exynos ahead by 25-30% (6500 on Geekbench vs 5000, real-world speed test has the Snap device finishing in 2:41, Exynos at 2:03, etc.) Plus this version of touchwiz was optimized for the Exynos model.
I notice these forums aren't as populated as the carrier models. Why do you think the International version isn't more popular?
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I've had this device for a bit now and had some time to evaluate it. I used the Snapdragon model in stores to try it out and the Exynos feels faster than that, which is saying a lot because the Snapdragon model is pretty fast. Benchmarks put the Exynos ahead by 25-30% (6500 on Geekbench vs 5000, real-world speed test has the Snap device finishing in 2:41, Exynos at 2:03, etc.) Plus this version of touchwiz was optimized for the Exynos model.
I notice these forums aren't as populated as the carrier models. Why do you think the International version isn't more popular?
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It's the limited bands on the Exynos model.
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It's the limited bands on the Exynos model.
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I heard the Exynos had more LTE bands that's why it's for the international models. Did you mean something else, correct me if I am wrong.
I ordered the exynos will get it tomorrow from Amazon. Going to use it on att. My 5x will be my flashing phone and for the n preview
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I heard the Exynos had more LTE bands that's why it's for the international models. Did you mean something else, correct me if I am wrong.
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Exynos doesn't support CDMA.
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Exynos doesn't support CDMA.
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Thanks for letting me know. I am surprised that all carriers in Canada has the Exynos version as some of our carriers run on CDMA instead of GSM. Since the Exynos version seems to have the unlocked boot loader, and since Samsung has released the source, this might be the first time where Exynos will be better for developing. Let's at least hope
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Thanks for letting me know. I am surprised that all carriers in Canada has the Exynos version as some of our carriers run on CDMA instead of GSM. Since the Exynos version seems to have the unlocked boot loader, and since Samsung has released the source, this might be the first time where Exynos will be better for developing. Let's at least hope
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The Edge 935F exynos forum is active. I guess the larger , more expensive model has more folllowers on XDA. I wished the forums were merged like in reddit. With very few exceptions, a discussion about the S7 Edge applies to the regular S7.
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I've had this device for a bit now and had some time to evaluate it. I used the Snapdragon model in stores to try it out and the Exynos feels faster than that, which is saying a lot because the Snapdragon model is pretty fast. Benchmarks put the Exynos ahead by 25-30% (6500 on Geekbench vs 5000, real-world speed test has the Snap device finishing in 2:41, Exynos at 2:03, etc.) Plus this version of touchwiz was optimized for the Exynos model.
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Not everyone can drop $600 on a phone. Most of the Exynos ones purchased online do not come with a factory warranty. The SD model normally benchmarks higher in single core power and graphics. The Exynos higher in multi core processing. Each person has a preference. Since the Exynos model isn't a US model your average phone person doesn't even know what it is.
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The Exynos supports more LTE bands, but the Snapdragon supports CDMA. Hence why it's used in markets that require CDMA .
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Andrw0830 said:
Thanks for letting me know. I am surprised that all carriers in Canada has the Exynos version as some of our carriers run on CDMA instead of GSM. Since the Exynos version seems to have the unlocked boot loader, and since Samsung has released the source, this might be the first time where Exynos will be better for developing. Let's at least hope
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None of the Canadian carriers use CDMA. We're all GSM/LTE now. Have been since Telus/Bell cooperated for the 2010 Olympics.
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Related
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/30/canadian-carriers-put-galaxy-s-iii-launch-on-june-20th/
Processor:
Snapdragon S4 Dual Core 1.5 GHz
Qualcomm MSM8960 Chipset
OS (Shipping): ICS 4.0.4
Data: LTE (SGH-i747 variation) and HSPA+ 42 (SGH-iT999 variation)
Memory: 2 GB RAM
I feel happy selling my international sgs3 for 750, 50 more than i paid for now on craigslist lol
Pretty sure that's Canada only.
I could be wrong though, so don't take it to the bank.
Don't bait the trolls.
Everything I've read seems to point to the US S3 variant closely mirroring the Canadian & also launching around June 20th for some carriers.
Update: Samsung's own release has swung our way, and it's providing a slew of details that should closely relate to the US launch. As expected, that's a Snapdragon S4 inside, although we now know that the 2GB of RAM of the NTT DoCoMo version will at least be making its way to Canada as well. The LTE version for Bell, Rogers, Telus and a handful of regional carriers is known as the SGH-i747, while the fabled SGH-T999 stops at 42Mbps HSPA+ and is the edition that Mobilicity, Wind and Videotron will get, since it supports 1,700MHz 3G. There's no mention of a 64GB Canadian Galaxy S III, so you'll still have to import if you frown heavily upon microSD cards.
The Japanese version is said to have 2gb of ram and thats a CDMA version.
I dont know, I think its very possible Samsung is putting 2gb of ram in US and Canada Versions to make up for the dual core only.
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Pretty sure that's Canada only.
I could be wrong though, so don't take it to the bank.
Don't bait the trolls.
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sgh-i747 is model for AT&T, so pretty certain it will apply for at&t version at least.
i hope they keep the button layout. i loved the international sgs3 button layout.
So what's faster or better (battery life and other aspects) - Quad-core with 1GB RAM or Dual-Core with 2GB RAM?
Not sure which to order (I'm from USA).
posted this in the Canadian thread http://www.unwiredview.com/2012/05/18/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-for-att-sgh-i747-and-t-mobile-sgh-t999-confirmed/
SGH-I747 should be for AT$T and SGH-T999 for T-Mobile US
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So what's faster or better (battery life and other aspects) - Quad-core with 1GB RAM or Dual-Core with 2GB RAM?
Not sure which to order (I'm from USA).
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i can tell you now that battery life will be superior with the dual-core S4. i don't think you'll be able to tell in every day situations which one is faster. i'll take the S4 and LTE personally.
I'll most likely keep my Int. version and see how the data/processor speeds are before I consider jumping on a contract extension and get the US LTE version. I am a fan of the HOME button, which I'm fairly sure will dissapear on AT&T's version. Also not a fan of the bloatware AT&T loads up their phones with that may uneccessarily hamper battery/RAM.
Will the S4 variant have as much dev support as the international? I sure hope so.
Except for high end gaming, S4 will perform just as well as Exynos in everyday use and have longer battery life.
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I'll most likely keep my Int. version and see how the data/processor speeds are before I consider jumping on a contract extension and get the US LTE version. I am a fan of the HOME button, which I'm fairly sure will dissapear on AT&T's version.
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i'll import from canada. S4 is a champ up against the quad Exynos. both have their plus' and minus'. having longer battery life and LTE are a little more important to me than bragging rights
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ECrispy said:
Will the S4 variant have as much dev support as the international? I sure hope so.
Except for high end gaming, S4 will perform just as well as Exynos in everyday use and have longer battery life.
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depends... Canadian versions, yep. AT$T may lock theirs down like they did the HOX. Rogers kids could unlock via htcdev. AT$T users had to spoof the cid. so, depends on carriers.
MoJoePin said:
I'll most likely keep my Int. version and see how the data/processor speeds are before I consider jumping on a contract extension and get the US LTE version. I am a fan of the HOME button, which I'm fairly sure will dissapear on AT&T's version.
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well, since canada and at&t models have been similar (cept for s2) i hope they keep that button config.
ECrispy said:
Will the S4 variant have as much dev support as the international? I sure hope so.
Except for high end gaming, S4 will perform just as well as Exynos in everyday use and have longer battery life.
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I doubt the carrier specific versions will receive the same level of dev attention as the international version. Don't get me wrong, there will boat loads of roms but it will be segmented between carriers.
There will always be porting issues between versions.
The international version is global. Also compounded with the fact it probably the most hyped/sought after Android phone so far.
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i'll import from canada. S4 is a champ up against the quad Exynos. both have their plus' and minus'. having longer battery life and LTE are a little more important to me than bragging rights
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I'm just too impatient . But I also added I'm not crazzy about the AT&T bloatware, I loathed it on my LTE Note (I know, I know, root & remove)
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depends... Canadian versions, yep. AT$T may lock theirs down like they did the HOX. Rogers kids could unlock via htcdev. AT$T users had to spoof the cid. so, depends on carriers.
It's unlikely that AT&T will lock the bootloaders on the SIII like they did on HOX. since all previous galaxy s phones did not have locked bootloaders. But this news is great, I can't wait to see comparison videos of the two variants
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spridell said:
The Japanese version is said to have 2gb of ram and thats a CDMA version.
I dont know, I think its very possible Samsung is putting 2gb of ram in US and Canada Versions to make up for the dual core only.
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The 2gb is not to just make up for the dual core but thw lack of dedicated video ram for the Adreno. Example, it sucks up about 400mb on the HOX.
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is350 said:
So what's faster or better (battery life and other aspects) - Quad-core with 1GB RAM or Dual-Core with 2GB RAM?
Not sure which to order (I'm from USA).
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Definitely Dual-Core with 2GB RAM. I will be waiting a bit more too.
The bottleneck of all phones today is the memory not the CPU.
Yea the current int. sgs3 has 780mb total available memory, and uses 469mb ram after factory reset. i can't wait to see how much more the better us variant will have!
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The 2gb is not to just make up for the dual core but thw lack of dedicated video ram for the Adreno. Example, it sucks up about 400mb on the HOX.
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How did this speculation become a fact now? Stop making up stories and repeating it over and over without any evidence whatsoever. The one s with the non lte s4 has 680mb free ram compared to 600mb on the one xl . The evo 3d with it's last generation s3 snapdragon has 800mb. Does that mean they have dedicated memory. Of course not.
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The Japanese version is said to have 2gb of ram and thats a CDMA version.
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No its not, its LTE on Band I with WCDMA fallback on bands I/VI.
See http://www.nttdocomo.co.jp/product/next/sc06d/index.html
shadow65781 said:
Pretty sure that's Canada only.
I could be wrong though, so don't take it to the bank.
Don't bait the trolls.
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+1. Our Canadian SGS models had 16 Gb of memory, you yanks only got 8 GB So anything is possible.
I am more interested in if I can flash a 1700 modem to change the band when I want...
I understand that they crippled the s3 because of issues with lte compatibility. (even though the korean version has quad exynos and lte)
However, I was under the impression samsung had worked this all out with exynos in the note 2. Also didn't either three or ee or whatever it was in the uk say they would have lte on the galaxy s iv, but only the us variant gets snapdragon? This makes absolutely no sense to me. Samsung is alienating a rather large market.
Now don't get me wrong, i am under no circumstance saying the snapdragon 600 is a bad processor, i think its really great. The gpu is really good too. However, When i think samsung, I think of exynos as its staple, built in-house samsung optimized processor. Also, i think we can all safely assume that the octa will be more powerful do to it being a real a15 quadcore (with the a7 power savers) and not just having a15 like characteristics. Furthermore the sgx 544 has been shown to be a more powerful gpu than the 320 other than not have open gl es 3.0. So i'm confused here. Is there something I'm missing? Am i the only one thinking this?
ps. Anyone hear anything about the exynos 5 quad? Why not use that?
......LTE......
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......LTE......
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did you bother to read what i wrote? plus http://www.phonearena.com/news/International-Samsung-Galaxy-S-4-visits-the-FCC_id40875
I'm not sure about the LTE specs, if the exynos 5 octa supports it or not but what i know is this: The snapdragon 600 will be PLENTY. It is a very very powerful processor. The only reason i'm going for the exynos 5 octa version is because it is the international version and it is the one that would get all the dev support, more roms and faster updates. But as far as performance goes? They will be identical. Nobody is crippled here
Most likely supply issues those 8 cores don't make themselves then again the lte issue could have sprung up again because this isn't a traditional processor
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samdsox said:
did you bother to read what i wrote? plus http://www.phonearena.com/news/International-Samsung-Galaxy-S-4-visits-the-FCC_id40875
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Yeah, I read what you wrote. I would assume it is in fact a limitation of LTE. Maybe they don't have a version of their current gen chip that is compatible with LTE bands used in the US.
You think Samsung wants to buy SoC from another vender?
I am a noob and a lil confused on this so bare with me please. I am dying to get this phone I live in NYC and have verizon. I take from this that the international version will not work on 4g LTE? AM I better off getting the snap dragon version(US)?
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I am a noob and a lil confused on this so bare with me please. I am dying to get this phone I live in NYC and have verizon. I take from this that the international version will not work on 4g LTE? AM I better off getting the snap dragon version(US)?
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The international one won't even work on verizon (it takes a sim card and is gsm. Verizon is a cdma network that just uses your esn)
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The international one won't even work on verizon (it takes a sim card and is gsm. Verizon is a cdma network that just uses your esn)
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Will it be able be used on anyother us network ex:att , tmobile.
Are you sure it will get dev support? I thought cyanogenmod quit developing for the international s 3 because Samsung wouldn't release some code for the exynos on the s 3 international version.
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Will it be able be used on anyother us network ex:att , tmobile.
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Any gsm network...att, tmobile..etc
Any cdma carrier will not work with international phones...Verizon, sprint...etc
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When i got my Droid 4G from Verizon, i got a card in it. Was this a SIM card? I thought that is what she said it was. From what i just read here, i shouldn't need the card for Verizon.
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did you bother to read what i wrote? plus http://www.phonearena.com/news/International-Samsung-Galaxy-S-4-visits-the-FCC_id40875
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It says in that article that the international one has LTE Band 5.
Look at the list of band frequencies : http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/cellulartelecomms/lte-long-term-evolution/lte-frequency-spectrum.php
This is the European band (around 800-850mhz).
If you look here :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
It shows that alot of europe uses LTE 800, and alot of japan uses LTE 850. This is even further confirmed by the fact that Italy is confirmed to get the OCTA version, and 2/3 of their major networks use 800mhz LTE.
However, I have reason to doubt this article. It says the T-mobile version uses Band 15. Band 15 is 1900MHz. T-mobile LTE uses AWS (1700/2100, AWS band). It makes way more sense to assume that the Snapdragon version contains AWS LTE band 4 (this would cover all of Canada and most of the US)
Hope this helps clear a few things up.
TLDR ; Exynos HAS LTE, but only the European band
Warrimonk said:
It says in that article that the international one has LTE Band 5.
Look at the list of band frequencies : http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/cellulartelecomms/lte-long-term-evolution/lte-frequency-spectrum.php
This is the European band (around 800-850mhz).
If you look here :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
It shows that alot of europe uses LTE 800, and alot of japan uses LTE 850. This is even further confirmed by the fact that Italy is confirmed to get the OCTA version, and 2/3 of their major networks use 800mhz LTE.
However, I have reason to doubt this article. It says the T-mobile version uses Band 15. Band 15 is 1900MHz. T-mobile LTE uses AWS (1700/2100, AWS band). It makes way more sense to assume that the Snapdragon version contains AWS LTE band 4 (this would cover all of Canada and most of the US)
Hope this helps clear a few things up.
TLDR ; Exynos HAS LTE, but only the European band
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thanks that makes alot more sense. It's just too bad samsung didn't use a seperate modem or plan for that in advance.
Just remember that the snapdragon will be a plus for development. As many developers have sworn off the exynos chip
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zelendel said:
Just remember that the snapdragon will be a plus for development. As many developers have sworn off the exynos chip
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Yeah, that's the one thing the us version has going for it. Not sure but i thought i saw a post from one of those developers that they would not develop for either though...hoping it was just that one.
Snapdragon 600:
Four Krait 300 cores
Adreno 320 graphics
Exynos 5 Octa:
Cortex-A15
Cortex-A7 CPUs w/
PowerVR SGX544MP3 graphics
Any T-Mobile folks thinking about ordering the International instead of the TM release?
Hmmm....decisions decisions....
conrat2000 said:
When i got my Droid 4G from Verizon, i got a card in it. Was this a SIM card? I thought that is what she said it was. From what i just read here, i shouldn't need the card for Verizon.
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That card is to access verizons LTE networks ....its not a sim like att/tmobile
Will people quit posting worthless threads about the processor already!? The snapdragon is going to be better in reality because it clocks faster and wastes much less battery combined with lte. Plus, developers hate exynos and won't develope for it.
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barondebxl said:
I'm not sure about the LTE specs, if the exynos 5 octa supports it or not but what i know is this: The snapdragon 600 will be PLENTY. It is a very very powerful processor. The only reason i'm going for the exynos 5 octa version is because it is the international version and it is the one that would get all the dev support, more roms and faster updates. But as far as performance goes? They will be identical. Nobody is crippled here
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I would assume the us version would get more support from developers such as CM since samsung won't release the codes of the exynos based processors, hence not being able to run it up to its full potential. So with the S600 that shouldn't be the case. No?
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So I'm really confused here. I'm planning on getting the Note 4 when it comes out and here in Europe, I get to choose between the Exynos model (64-bit) and the Snapdragon 805. So is 64-bit really THAT important for Android L? I don't really care about development support for the Snapdragon 805, I just want the more powerful device. Both versions will feature an LTE modem only the Snapdragon one is Cat6 and the Exynos one is Cat4. In my country LTE is just starting to roll out so that doesn't make any difference for me. Should I get the Exynos model because it's 64-bit?
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So I'm really confused here. I'm planning on getting the Note 4 when it comes out and here in Europe, I get to choose between the Exynos model (64-bit) and the Snapdragon 805. So is 64-bit really THAT important for Android L? I don't really care about development support for the Snapdragon 805, I just want the more powerful device. Both versions will feature an LTE modem only the Snapdragon one is Cat6 and the Exynos one is Cat4. In my country LTE is just starting to roll out so that doesn't make any difference for me. Should I get the Exynos model because it's 64-bit?
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Your answer is here: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/745330?baseline=745794
No need upgrade to Android L, Exynos is more powerful than Snapdragon!
I don't know how to interpret the results properly.
How about the poor memory performance of Exynos, what do the benchmarks indicate.
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I don't know how to interpret the results properly.
How about the poor memory performance of Exynos, what do the benchmarks indicate.
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don't get your hopes to high about 64 bit CPU. From the screenshots of the Exynos Note 4 CPU uses ARMv7 instruction set and for the 64 bit functionality ARMv8 is required. So looking at this and lack of any official work from Samsung I highly suspect that it will be 32 bit CPU with more cores. Also it doesn't make sense to release two so different CPU version since the Exynos version will be eligible for Android L update, but Snapdragon will not(or at least it was the rumor that Android L will work only on 64 bit CPU)
the screens from Exynos Note 4 show 32 bit CPU with 8 cores.... http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4912030/1/rv/samsung-galaxy-note-4-review/
I think I might be skipping on the Exynos and go with snapdragon since that what I can get locally in Canada, a big disappointment for me since I wanted to get 64 bit Exynos (for android L )
hiepgia said:
Your answer is here: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/745330?baseline=745794
No need upgrade to Android L, Exynos is more powerful than Snapdragon!
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It looks like a substantial victory, sometimes >30% in some benchmarks for the Exynos. Does the Mali GPU similarly dominate over the new Adreno?
My big concern is the development of the Exynos vs the Snapdragon; concerned that there maybe CyanogenMod and AOSP based ROMs might have issues with the Exynos version (they had difficulties I remember with the Note 2)? Samsung I remember had really poor documentation for its Exynos SOCs, which could be an issue.
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don't get your hopes to high about 64 bit CPU. From the screenshots of the Exynos Note 4 CPU uses ARMv7 instruction set and for the 64 bit functionality ARMv8 is required. So looking at this and lack of any official work from Samsung I highly suspect that it will be 32 bit CPU with more cores. Also it doesn't make sense to release two so different CPU version since the Exynos version will be eligible for Android L update, but Snapdragon will not(or at least it was the rumor that Android L will work only on 64 bit CPU)
the screens from Exynos Note 4 show 32 bit CPU with 8 cores.... http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4912030/1/rv/samsung-galaxy-note-4-review/
I think I might be skipping on the Exynos and go with snapdragon since that what I can get locally in Canada, a big disappointment for me since I wanted to get 64 bit Exynos (for android L )
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What carrier are you on? Any idea if the Exynos version will work on Wind Mobile?
To be honest, this phone seems underwhelming in some ways. The Note 4 did not offer water proofing and it was not a huge upgrade over the Note 3 specs-wise. Plus the lack of ARMv8 instruction set SOCs ...
But the issue is there really isn't much competition in the Android phablet space these days. The One Plus One is unobtainable for most of us and well the others are not on par with the Note.
sauron0101 said:
It looks like a substantial victory, sometimes >30% in some benchmarks for the Exynos. Does the Mali GPU similarly dominate over the new Adreno?
My big concern is the development of the Exynos vs the Snapdragon; concerned that there maybe CyanogenMod and AOSP based ROMs might have issues with the Exynos version (they had difficulties I remember with the Note 2)? Samsung I remember had really poor documentation for its Exynos SOCs, which could be an issue.
What carrier are you on? Any idea if the Exynos version will work on Wind Mobile?
To be honest, this phone seems underwhelming in some ways. The Note 4 did not offer water proofing and it was not a huge upgrade over the Note 3 specs-wise. Plus the lack of ARMv8 instruction set SOCs ...
But the issue is there really isn't much competition in the Android phablet space these days. The One Plus One is unobtainable for most of us and well the others are not on par with the Note.
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I'm with Fido, probably will have to get unlock Note 4 once it will reach Canada. But assuming that Wind Mobile has Note 3 its highly likely Note 4 will come to the Wind Mobile as well, maybe with some delay though.
All the great things about better performance of Exynos vs Snapdragon is awesome of course, however will you really notice the difference in usage ? I have SGS3 international which I compared to the north america's dual core didn't see much difference in performance of everyday tasks. In addiction to that most of the places don't have LTE-A so snapdragon is pretty much has no gain in network speed and will perform the same as Exynos(at least in Canada where we have only LTE network)
So now the question really is whether its worth going through the pain of getting international Note 4 region locked, deal with it , pay extra $$$ for the Exynos which lacks 64 bit instruction set and in terms of everyday performance you won't notice the difference ?
What I really wonder about is the difference in battery life between those two versions ?
sauron0101 said:
It looks like a substantial victory, sometimes >30% in some benchmarks for the Exynos. Does the Mali GPU similarly dominate over the new Adreno?
My big concern is the development of the Exynos vs the Snapdragon; concerned that there maybe CyanogenMod and AOSP based ROMs might have issues with the Exynos version (they had difficulties I remember with the Note 2)? Samsung I remember had really poor documentation for its Exynos SOCs, which could be an issue.
What carrier are you on? Any idea if the Exynos version will work on Wind Mobile?
To be honest, this phone seems underwhelming in some ways. The Note 4 did not offer water proofing and it was not a huge upgrade over the Note 3 specs-wise. Plus the lack of ARMv8 instruction set SOCs ...
But the issue is there really isn't much competition in the Android phablet space these days. The One Plus One is unobtainable for most of us and well the others are not on par with the Note.
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Instruction set ARMv7 is in ARM Cortex A53 and ARM Cortex A57. I have been play with HTC Desire 510 64bit for a while in shop. Installed Antutu and it show ARMv7 in details.
ARMv7 is read from OS as Android 4.4 is 32bit.
IF Exynos 5433 is 64 bit, we will have more with Android L
vetl said:
So now the question really is whether its worth going through the pain of getting international Note 4 region locked, deal with it , pay extra $$$ for the Exynos which lacks 64 bit instruction set and in terms of everyday performance you won't notice the difference ?
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The Exynos doesn't lack 64-bit instruction. It has 64-bit instruction. Read more here http://www.gsmarena.com/exynos_5433powered_samsung_galaxy_note_4_benchmarked-news-9406.php
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The Exynos doesn't lack 64-bit instruction. It has 64-bit instruction. Read more here http://www.gsmarena.com/exynos_5433powered_samsung_galaxy_note_4_benchmarked-news-9406.php
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i got confused by OS readings, seems like I have made solid decision to go after exynos version. Now the hardest part is to wait for it to become available :/
vetl said:
i got confused by OS readings, seems like I have made solid decision to go after exynos version. Now the hardest part is to wait for it to become available :/
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Where would you find an international version in Toronto (Canada) without it being wildly expensive?
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Mr Dasher said:
Where would you find an international version in Toronto (Canada) without it being wildly expensive?
Thanks,
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I don't know about Canada but here in Europe I get to choose between the both models if you're not buying it from a carrier. Last year for the Note 3, the Snapdragon one was just a little bit more expensive than the Exynos model.
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Where would you find an international version in Toronto (Canada) without it being wildly expensive?
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last two galaxies that I owned I got from online store ... so depends what you call wildly expensive, but definitely it will cost you some extra $$$. Does any one know which region Exynos version will belong ? from the website that I got my international SGS3 they told me that most likely they will get Snapdragon edition .....
I'm interested in the Exynos version if it will be faster and have better battery life. I'm still confused by the network support, however. It seems like the Exynos version will only have LTE Cat 4 while the Snapdragon version will have LTE Cat 6. Are there actually any carriers in North America on Cat 6? I didn't think so. Will the Exynos and Snapdragon versions support the same LTE bands? More importantly, will there be an Exynos version that with UMTS pentaband support (including 1700 and 1900 bands?) I assume the SM-N910T (T-Mobile) will be Snapdragon.
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I'm interested in the Exynos version if it will be faster and have better battery life. I'm still confused by the network support, however. It seems like the Exynos version will only have LTE Cat 4 while the Snapdragon version will have LTE Cat 6. Are there actually any carriers in North America on Cat 6? I didn't think so. Will the Exynos and Snapdragon versions support the same LTE bands? More importantly, will there be an Exynos version that with UMTS pentaband support (including 1700 and 1900 bands?) I assume the SM-N910T (T-Mobile) will be Snapdragon.
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There are barely any states that supports Cat6. Most don't even support Cat4. Take a look at this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
If you look at the dates you can see that many countries are only now receiving Cat3.
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I bought my unlocked International Note 2 from Expansys.ca and it was at least $100 cheaper than the carriers, including priority shipping.
I'm likely going to do the same with the Note 4.
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I bought my unlocked International Note 2 from Expansys.ca and it was at least $100 cheaper than the carriers, including priority shipping.
I'm likely going to do the same with the Note 4.
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Thanks for the heads up. I pre-ordered a 32gig black version . The price is not listed but they give you the option to cancel the order if it's not what you want.
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Thanks for the heads up. I pre-ordered a 32gig black version . The price is not listed but they give you the option to cancel the order if it's not what you want.
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Just pre-ordered from Expansys. Looking at my Note 2 order, I got it the day after they shipped with the express ship option (approx. $27). Hope this comes out soon! :victory::victory:
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Just pre-ordered from Expansys. Looking at my Note 2 order, I got it the day after they shipped with the express ship option (approx. $27). Hope this comes out soon! :victory::victory:
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I paid for express shipping as well. The only issue is that they dont mention which model it is. I have emailed them to ask.
For your Note 2, though it was unlocked, was there any type of carrier branding on the case or in the OS?
Thanks for the info.
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I paid for express shipping as well. The only issue is that they dont mention which model it is. I have emailed them to ask.
For your Note 2, though it was unlocked, was there any type of carrier branding on the case or in the OS?
Thanks for the info.
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Please let me know when you get an answer.
For my Note 2 there was no carrier branding, other than the Samsung logo on the top of the device and on the back. Worked like a champ on Virgin Mobile, but this model (N-7100) doesn't have LTE. It'll be nice to have it on the Note 4!
From experience from having exynos galaxy phones and the same phone with snapdragon I always found the snapdragon phones to be more reliable and have less delay but when I had the exynos S4 the camera sensor and audio chip was better (wolfson vs qualcomm). This was important for me but I will not get a exynos phone again as Qualcomm in my opinion are the leaders in Chipset. 801 being a let down though due to overheating!
Hey Guys,
I am currently using the S6 and I hate this damn piece of S*** because the phone reception and call quality is conclusively terrible compared to other devices that are using the Snapdragon Processor Variant.
Don't tell me it's not true because I have tested it. RECEPTION WITH EXYNOS PRROCESSORS IS TERRIBLE - PERIOD.
I want the Snapdragon and I am really hoping it will be available in Europe. What if it isn't? can I still by the Snapdragon and will it work on the LTE bands in Europe? Any known disadvantages?
I'd love to hear your words.
Contacted Samsung France today ... It's sadly true ... No custom ROMs for us ..
That is indeed sad but what's even more sad ais that the Exynos Variant sucks even more with cellphone reception. I had the Nexus 6P Snapdragon 810 for a few days and MAN you won't believe how much stronger the reception was.
There is no doubt at all that the Exynos variant has a significantly worse LTE Radio and for that I will simply buy the G5 after 8 YEARS OF SAMSUNG ONLY.
It's enough suffering with this crap reception, dropped and missed calls! Worthless Samsung - FAIL
NEVER AGAIN.
I live in europe and I hate exynos chipset too. Any solution to import snapdragon version??
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I live in europe and I hate exynos chipset too. Any solution to import snapdragon version??
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Most likely ebay.com, i doubt tmobile will ship one to you.
I think i will do that. Thank you, you think it will be better than exynos version for developement for sure?
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I think i will do that. Thank you, you think it will be better than exynos version for developement for sure?
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But development of what? The exynos will have plenty of roms being made for it, except they'll most likely be based on the stock touchwiz rom. If you want aosp then you'll want the snapdragon version. But the s6 currently has an aosp being developed for it, so that will most likely be available on the s7 too in the future.
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But development of what? The exynos will have plenty of roms being made for it, except they'll most likely be based on the stock touchwiz rom. If you want aosp then you'll want the snapdragon version. But the s6 currently has an aosp being developed for it, so that will most likely be available on the s7 too in the future.
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I'm from AOSPARADOX and believe me that if I got my hands on a S7 you'll see my ROM poping (trees for S7 are made ?)
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I'm from AOSPARADOX and believe me that if I got my hands on a S7 you'll see my ROM poping (trees for S7 are made )
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You will develop AOSP rom for s7 exynos?
AOSP rom developped by a french compatriot, it will be perfect :good:
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You will develop AOSP rom for s7 exynos?
AOSP rom developped by a french compatriot, it will be perfect :good:
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Nope but I'll do for a SD820. Believe me, I can put hundreds more in, but I need a SD820
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Nope but I'll do for a SD820. Believe me, I can put hundreds more in, but I need a SD820
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Need an SD820 variant
clove.co.uk is selling unlocked UK S7 and the specs show sd820. Might be a typo, but worth looking into...
I found some on eBay but it's 1k€
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That LTE modem on the Exynos 8890 isn't that bad (hell it's actually not bad at all). Granted the SD820's baseband is better than it's competition, but the Exynos 8890's baseband is nothing to cry about.
Keep in mind that this is not the Exynos 7420 SOC used in the Galaxy S6/S6 Edge phones.
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clove.co.uk is selling unlocked UK S7 and the specs show sd820. Might be a typo, but worth looking into...
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You might want to check which model this actually is prior to purchasing. Global version G395F does not have Snapdragon meaning they're likely selling an Overpriced G395T.
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That is indeed sad but what's even more sad ais that the Exynos Variant sucks even more with cellphone reception. I had the Nexus 6P Snapdragon 810 for a few days and MAN you won't believe how much stronger the reception was.
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So, to confirm, you had superior reception on a completely different phone from a completely different manufacturer and you automatically put it down to the chipset?
So anyone has a idea about how getting SD820 in Europe without paying 900€+ ?
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clove.co.uk is selling unlocked UK S7 and the specs show sd820. Might be a typo, but worth looking into...
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I contacted Clove.co.uk and they confirmed that they don't have SD820 version and they updated the website accordingly
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I contacted Clove.co.uk and they confirmed that they don't have SD820 version and they updated the website accordingly
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EBay is the only way..
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That LTE modem on the Exynos 8890 isn't that bad (hell it's actually not bad at all). Granted the SD820's baseband is better than it's competition, but the Exynos 8890's baseband is nothing to cry about.
Keep in mind that this is not the Exynos 7420 SOC used in the Galaxy S6/S6 Edge phones.
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Thanks, that's good news. Where did you get that information. I'm okay with the Exynos processor as it is but I know that the lte modem on the s6 is terrible. What's the best way to find out how the reception of the Exynos variant stacks up against the snapdragon variant ?
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Why wasn't there been no information about Chipset that is being used at S8 / S8+? Does anybody have any idea what is the chip that will be shipped globally? (Snapdragon 835 or Exynos). Nonetheless, the unpacked event was not so exciting as I expected. There is nothing much to say other than Screen ratio, Bixby and Dex.
Were you really as excited as you though earlier? Did Samsung fulfilled your expectation.
They said we made a new 10nm processor so it's obviously the Exynos, they didnt mention snapdragon so i guess it will be like the S6 with exynos only, maybe.
SM-G950F/FD/N, SM-G955F/FD/N aka International and Korean will be the Exynos 8895
G950U/0 and G955U/0 + US variants will be the Snapdragon 835
Most likely we're gonna get the SD835 version. At least that's what Mobilesyrup said.
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They said we made a new 10nm processor so it's obviously the Exynos, they didnt mention snapdragon so i guess it will be like the S6 with exynos only, maybe.
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They also manufactured the sd835 , which is also 10nm processor
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Most likely we're gonna get the SD835 version. At least that's what Mobilesyrup said.
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If the note 7 and s7 trend continues yep.bootloader probably locked again also.
Which means most of us will end up with an international Exynos model lol.
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What should we order an international model or us. Yes im verizon and us. Only reason i ask ... i have the note 4 and the roms are mostly f and g variant which are india and europe.
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What should we order an international model or us. Yes im verizon and us. Only reason i ask ... i have the note 4 and the roms are mostly f and g variant which are india and europe.
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Samsung international phones don't work on Verizon.
always found it odd that the USA still hold on the less deployed cdma networks. they need to go GSM all the way!
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always found it odd that the USA still hold on the less deployed cdma networks. they need to go GSM all the way!
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Actually they are. Sprint and Verizon only use CDMA for fallback and voice for now. There lte is gsm and once volte gets widespread enough CDMA will be shut down and refarmed for lte.